The Newcastle United Blog

News and Commentary On Newcastle United By Ed Harrison, A Proud Exiled Geordie And Lifelong Fan

The Newcastle United Blog header image 2
Howay The Lads!!

McClaren At Fans Forum – Discipline is The Key To Everything

1:00 pm, Thursday, July 9th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 12 Comments

The minutes have been released by Newcastle of the Fans Forum meeting that took place on Monday night,  with new head coach Steve McClaren in attendance.

And the minutes start off with a long piece from Steve on what he sees his job among other things, and once again it seems McClaren is keen to communicate with the Newcastle fans.

steve mcclaren at fans forum

Steve McClaren at the Fans Forum meeting

Steve McClaren talks about discipline of the players – which was diabolical under John Carver when many players picked up suspensions including Jack Colback, Papiss Cisse, Mike Williamson and Daryl Janmaat to name a few.

And one low point for John Carver was when he accused Mike Williamson of getting himself sent off in the 3-0 defeat at Leicester.

That was simply complete nonsense coming from Carver, who seemed to lose his cool after the game – which may not have been all that surprising since it it was our 8th defeat in a row.

Here’s some of what Steve had to say:

“The present staff have been fantastic. They’ve been really good. The players have come in and we’ve set out our culture, our rules. Discipline is the key to it.¨

“We’ve stressed from day one the kind of discipline we expect from players, as well as the discipline that they expect from us. We ask them to be professional; to do the right thing every day.¨

¨Everybody knows what’s right and what’s wrong and we ask them to come in and do the right thing, to be professional.¨

“If we create that environment, people – players – will follow. It’s about setting up, getting the players in and identifying what success is. We want to win something and get into the top eight. That’s been stated by the owner and that’s our objective.¨

¨How we get there is our job. You start right at the bottom in terms of what you create, the culture and the climate, what rules you set, the discipline, how you work, the professionalism, the character.¨

“My first job at the training ground is to create that culture of professionalism. That has to be the first success, then we’re building on that with recruitment – which is being worked on day and night relentlessly. Despite what you may read or hear, that’s what has been happening.¨

“Through the years, I’ve learned through experience that things will happen. That’s football. They don’t always happen when you want them to happen but if you hold your nerve, they happen how you want them to happen.¨

“In the longer term, we have got to think strategically about how we develop this team into a top eight team that is going to win a trophy.”

Those are good words form McClaren and while there’s not too much positive coming out of the club at the moment, we’ve been impressed with McClaren.

But of course he will be judged by the results he gets – like any other coach.

Steve is obviously a top man – and we hope he can match that by becoming a top coach at Newcastle and take us into the top eight next season,  and even better in the seasons to come.

That’s our hope.

In the Fans Forum meeting it seems Steve answered almost all the questions – it looked like a one man show.

You can read the Fans Forum meeting minutes here.

Tags: Coaching · Fans · Fans Forum · Newcastle News · Premier League

12 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 9, 2015 at 1:05 PM

    It’s about identifying what success is? Top eight is not success. You don’t finish your career claiming a top eight finish made you a success. Oh dear me.

  • 2 optimistic prime // Jul 9, 2015 at 1:06 PM

    I can’t really see the point in having that meeting.

    The club doesn’t want to dwell on the past, unfortunately all the fans can do is dwell on the past as so far nothing else has happened.

  • 3 NezzaNUFC // Jul 9, 2015 at 1:07 PM

    Where’s the questions?

    Where’s the answers?

    Fans forum my a$$

  • 4 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 9, 2015 at 1:08 PM

    We want to win something, Steve ? What? The Trap Door Cup? No, Steve. We don’t want to win “something”. Let’s hear you say we want to win the FA Cup.

  • 5 NezzaNUFC // Jul 9, 2015 at 1:11 PM

    The picture says it all!

    SM looks happy probably because Newcastle is the biggest club he’s been at.

    Lee and Bob look lost and probably listening to what SM is saying and to make sure he studied every word carefully

  • 6 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 9, 2015 at 1:12 PM

    Besides, the big man did not state top eight. As I recall he said, in terms of league placing, he won’t leave until we qualify for the Champions League. What’s going on Steve?

  • 7 lesh // Jul 9, 2015 at 1:12 PM

    A key omission from the minutes – where’s the apology for the delay in arranging this meeting?

    And, where’s the reference to the open letter sent to Ashley?

  • 8 Tsunki // Jul 9, 2015 at 1:19 PM

    The following fans forum events are true, only the facts have been changed to protect the embarrassed.

    So, discipline, eh? About time. Toilet, wash and teeth brushed and in bed by ten. Anybody caught coming downstairs after that spends next playtime on the naughty step.

  • 9 Tsunki // Jul 9, 2015 at 1:22 PM

    The flow of PR Spew continues unstemmed, meanwhile the frantic treading of water goes on behind the scenes as pathetic negotiations slowly unravel and the coaching staff are continuing their vain remit of squeezing blood out of a stone with the current squad.

  • 10 BandB // Jul 9, 2015 at 1:28 PM

    Interesting to see the Forum members toying with the idea that it would be great if the club put out news stories based on facets of the minutes, to let fans know more about their important work.

    Can I suggest, “Buy Us A Player And We’ll Be Ever-So Delighted.” as the first headline.”

    And “Inspirational Mike Fights off Relegation” as another.

  • 11 rwpoynter // Jul 9, 2015 at 2:36 PM

    All Steve has to do to win over the fans, and I really want this guy to succeed, is to win the first half dozen matches, it is as simple as that. Or is it? Well no, and he well knows this because like the stock exchange, it is all about confidence. This is what has been lacking at SJP for some years. Get two new players in, keep pushing for a few more and things will move forward. I remember the start of the 1995/6 season. Ginola, Ferdinand , Gillespie, Albert, arrived and it all started to gel.

  • 12 Chaz // Jul 9, 2015 at 2:58 PM

    We’ve been fed so much rubbish for years by the owner and the people he employs that any sort of change is naturally going to be viewed with suspicion and doubt. It’s like ‘The Boy Who Cried Wolf’ isn’t it? Nobody believes a word any more.

    It’s no wonder that the people who make our club, the fans, feel like they do.

    Macca kept saying right through the meeting, that it is actions that will speak louder than words. That is true. When we see things improve with our own eyes then doubts might start to be erased.

    There is no doubt in my mind that the quality of coaching our players are going to get this season will be consistently better than they’ve had for several years. Hopefully the influence will be seen tomorrow night when I see and judge with my own eyes at the Mighty Heed.

    I’ll be looking for some very simple, basic things like:-

    different warm-up routines
    players in their best positions
    a variety of free kicks and corners
    players wanting the ball and are comfortable and controlling play
    all players looking like they’re on the same team and are working equally hard for each other
    mass substitutions at half time to give maximum number of players half a game.

    For now, this will do me just fine.

    There is an implication in the meeting minutes that significant inward investment is also going to be made during three transfer windows.

    It won’t take Macca and co. long to identify who to discard and replace and the history of him and Ian Cathro suggests that if you’re good enough; your old enough and that youth will be given every opportunity to flourish as quickly as possible.

    Sometimes with the sort of sanitised reporting we get from these fan group meetings, you’re left wondering what the point of them is but it is a massive step forward having the manager sit and be held accountable. IF things go belly-up for him, and I don’t think it will; I hope he doesn’t make himself scarce.

    I don’t think he will ever be sent to the stands for unprofessional behaviour and I do think he’ll have not just a plan A but B, C, D, E and F sorted as well.

    Pardew and co struggled to find a plan A most weeks…

    As for incoming players; I’m expecting a step up in quality and if we can see where the current inadequacy in talent lies, then I’m confident Macca can too and will get it sorted.

previous post: Blow To Newcastle’s Proposed Imminent Wijnaldum Deal

next post: Steve McClaren On Injuries, Style Of Play And Transfer Status