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Fans Shouldn’t Worry – Newcastle Sells Itself

11:04 pm, Saturday, July 11th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 134 Comments

A number of fans have been concerned that it will be very difficult to get our top targets into the club this summer, and we are certainly part of that group.

That was one reason we were absolutely delighted that not only did Wijnaldum sign for us yesterday – but he seems genuinely very keen to come to Tyneside.

Maybe we can thank Tim Krul for that,  since Georginio has said today that Tim has been telling him to move to Newcastle for the last six years – it’s such a great club with terrific fans – well – it finally paid off.

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Head coach Steve McClaren seems unconcerned that our top targets may not want to join Newcastle, and he says there’s really no need to put together a sales pitch to persuade players to join Newcastle United:

“We don’t need to. I don’t need to. We’ve had no problem, what Mike Ashley said about the club – the objectives – this isn’t a club that just wants to stay in the Premier League, which is important.¨

“I know that’s always the first objective, but now he’s kind of said it’s to get in to the top eight, to win something and we’re here for three years and that’s what we want to achieve.¨

“So we can sell that to players, to the present squad. We’ve said that already. We’re not just sitting here saying ‘we’re just going to stay in the league, let’s fight for that.’¨

“We’ve got loftier ambitions. Cup competitions – I like cups and anybody can get to a semi-final, a final, if you get the luck and the right kind of draw.¨ “Selling that to a player is no problem, the stadium is no problem, the crowd is no problem.¨

“In Europe, they see that Newcastle is a big club with great traditions.” “Down at the training ground, we can only create what we create in terms of environment, culture.¨

“We try to get everyone buying in,  there’s got to be a willingness from the players and the staff and they’re doing that.”

20 year-old striker Aleksandar Mitrovic will be deciding which club to join very soon, and one them in the running is still Newcastle, so with any luck we could get our second excellent player through the door in the next couple of days.

And it seems that Georginio will not travel to the US with the squad tomorrow, because he has some personal stuff to attend to back in Holland,  after the whirlwind last couple of days and he only reported back to training at PSV last Monday.

He will follow the squad out in a few days – so presumably he will be available for the last couple of games.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Financials · Newcastle News · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target

134 responses so far ↓

  • 1 mickalfas // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:13 PM

    Ashley OUT !!

  • 2 BoyDoneGood // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:14 PM

    [Reposted from two threads back]

    BandB comment 16

    Mentioning me – in response to what, exactly?

    Since you expect some I-told-you-soing, let’s recap on the various tenuous predictions I made in Feb/Mar, of which everyone was rubbished and most were indeed savaged by yourself and the regular pessimists.

    1) Around 35 would be the relegation cut off
    2) We would finish around 40
    3) Carver would not be “nailed on” nor even revert to assistant, but would be on his bike [Munstermag – so not “ALL of us” here said he’d remain…”
    4) “Wait and see…” New high calibre coach (I wanted innovative, so S MacC is only so-so… but we’ll see)
    5) “Wait and see…” Contrary to oft repeated twaddle here, I said Newcastle would be buying players in the over-£10M range.

    So what on earth prompts you to pontificate in such a smugly authoritative way? And to sneer at those whose analysis is demonstrably light years better than your own?

  • 3 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:17 PM

    My recollection is that Ashley targeted the Champions League. McClaren keeps talking about top 8. Is there some miscommunication or am I missing something?

  • 4 jane // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:21 PM

    “My recollection is that Ashley targeted the Champions League. McClaren keeps talking about top 8.”

    don’t think that difference matters much.

  • 5 jane // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:22 PM

    “Since you expect some I-told-you-soing”

    i told you so. i did.

  • 6 Bambams // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:24 PM

    I hope we can get a commanding CB soon !

    Our defence has been shocking the last few years.

    Can’t remember the last time we were ‘plus’ goal difference in double figures at the end of a season

  • 7 mickalfas // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:28 PM

    It doesn’t matter anyway ,we are far from being a champions league club,possibly if he keeps investing over the next few years
    SM is probably giving a more realistic view ,the top 4 is so far ahead it’ll take some catching up with them

  • 8 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:29 PM

    Jane @4
    Why’s that?

  • 9 jane // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:32 PM

    i don’t think Ashley was meaning Champions league this season anyway probably.

  • 10 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:32 PM

    The boss set the target. That should be the target. What is the point of an 8th place finish? Where’s the ambition?

  • 11 jane // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:35 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie i don’t think it matters much because top 8 would be fine and anything more a bonus.

  • 12 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:36 PM

    If you set a target of top 4, you might finish 8th. How are you going to attract top players looking to play European football if the manager isn’t even targeting it?

  • 13 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:38 PM

    Top 8. These are not good words from Steve McClaren.

  • 14 chasing_rabbits // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    Blackley @ 10

    Surely setting minimum 8th finish is ambitious on last year? I wouldn’t have expected them to set Europe as the target this season. We have to work towards it. Plus the competition for those places is more fierce than its ever been. Any one of 5 or 6 clubs (possibly more) could end up in the Europe places. McClaren wants to build a team over the next 2/3years to challenge for that but he knows its not achievable in 1 season. They’ve set a realistic target, that with the right investment can be achieved.

  • 15 jane // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    McClaren said “now he’s kind of said it’s to get in to the top eight” i think the ‘he’ he is referring to is what Ashley is saying the target is for now.

  • 16 jane // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:46 PM

    ” or am I missing something?”

    think that was it 😉

  • 17 Charlietoon // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:47 PM

    B&B They are realistic words. We almost got relegated last year. If he comes out and says we want champions league, which we will not get with the current squad, he would be a laughing stock and we’d all be saying ‘we have another carver here’. Better to under promise and over deliver especially in his first season.

  • 18 chasing_rabbits // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:48 PM

    Blackley do you really expect McClaren to take a team that’s been flirting with Relegation for the last few seasons, plus maybe 4/5 additions, and turn them into Champions League qualifiers in his first season. Do you think Leicester, West Brom, Villa etc have all set min top 4 finish as their target for next season. No, because its not realistic. We’ve got plenty of work to do to get back on par with the likes of Swansea, West Ham, Soton before we can challenge Spurs, Liverpool etc. And who here wouldn’t be happy with 8th place next season?!

  • 19 The overrated Frenchman // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:48 PM

    Aspirations for the Champions League are pie in the sky surely. These days you basically have to buy your way in. OK, Soton made a run at it last season but in the end the depth of the rich clubs came through. A good cup run and top 8 is a reasonable ambition I think. After last season that would be decent progress. Still think we need another 3 or 4 top drawer players before that’s realistic though.

  • 20 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:52 PM

    Top 8 wins nowt.

    Ashley has got the coach. If McClaren is confident in his coaching ability, and Ashley provides the horse, why shouldn’t we target Europe this season? It’s a target. It’s something to strive for. I thought

    Ashley was saying he is ambitious to get into Europe. But now we hear it’s not this season. It makes you think the spending will be modest this summer.

  • 21 chasing_rabbits // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:53 PM

    Blackley if he set a target of top 4 & finished 8th you ‘d probably be the first to turn around and brand him a failure.

  • 22 GEORDIE69 // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:56 PM

    Aye McLaren try buying 8 more top class players before you start dreaming of top 8 with our current squad. Nobody can make Williamson, Orbetan, Gouffran ect top 8 players!!! We are desperate for at least 4 top defenders to face a full season in the Premier League..Oh and at least 2 top Centre Forwards and not forgetting another 2 top midfielders. Good luck with that.

  • 23 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:57 PM

    Chasing Rabbits
    One thing’s for sure. If you don’t aim for something, you won’t get it. This is the problem with the squad and the club. No characters with a winning mentality. We’re having difficulty attracting top players. Top players don’t want modest targets.

  • 24 The Great Valerio // Jul 11, 2015 at 11:58 PM

    “…but he seems genuinely very keen to come to Tyneside.” Goes without saying *sideways look to camera*

  • 25 Looney_toon_89 // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:00 AM

    Anybody who says we should be targeting top four THIS season is not all there.
    Top 8 is a good ambitious target especially if we are going to be having a go in the cups.
    It will take 5 or 6 players to get us into that top 8 bracket from where we are now with all the spending power all the other clubs have this season.
    2 CBs ( Colo & Taylor) out
    Cabella out ( Cabella / anita / tiote / Wijnaldum, Sissoko/ Colback/ De Jong / Abeid…. midfield too heavy, Cabella would be the best to offload)
    Cisse out ( while Newcastle can get a decent fee for him to help put money in the kitty ) Riveire out would be a bonus but I think if we could get him out on loan that would be a success.
    Obertan, Guffran out.

    CB – Matip would be ideal however supposedly not moving.
    LB – Not sure but if we have need a senior LB
    RW – Thauvin
    LW – not sure if newcastle are targeting but some upgrade on Guffran required.
    ST X 2 – if Cisse goes then Austin/ Mitrovic would be a class forward line with Perez available & Riveire available in case of emergency.

    That would still only be top 8.

  • 26 chasing_rabbits // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:02 AM


    Neither does 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th or 7th. What’s your point?

    I never expected them to splash out £100m plus to go all out and compete with United, City, Arsenal, Chelsea this season but I think he will give between £50m & £60m and that should allow us to compete with the teams who have pulled ahead over the last few seasons. Don’t forget that while we’ve gone windows without making any signings pretty much everybody else has invested in players. Coupled with the poor management we’ve had in place we’ve slipped behind those teams & McClaren has got to make the ground up first.

  • 27 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:02 AM

    Lots disagree with me that the squad needs a massive overhaul and some top coaching. We need to get rid of at least half of them. Carr should be earning his money by identifying plenty of astute buys.

    I wonder if Steve Black will be trying to instil a top 8 message?

  • 28 The overrated Frenchman // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:02 AM

    Of course top 8 wins nowt, but we’d have to spend a lot more money than we are likely to in order to push for higher than that. You can’t make a silk purse from a sow’s ear. (or in the case of many in our squad, a sow’s @rse)

  • 29 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:06 AM

    Chasing rabbits
    I don’t agree with Ashley that EPL qualification counts as winning something. But it counts for something. Top 8 counts for nothing.

  • 30 chasing_rabbits // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:10 AM

    Blackley I made a point earlier of saying last summer we bought in Cabella & now Wijnaldum who were both voted player of the season for their respective leagues before they joined so I think that makes a statement that we can still attract top players. I know Cabella struggled last season but ill say again that he will come good under the right management. And we didn’t seem to have any problems attracting Wijnaldum did we?

    And McClaren has openly come out and said that they trying to install a new mentality amongst the players to make them believe they can win and is using that same approach on all the transfer targets during discussions

  • 31 Looney_toon_89 // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:14 AM

    top 8 does count for something, it counts for several million more than the places below, it counts from several further away from a relegation place & a crisis, & it counts for moving from near relegation, into the top half, and progression towards european competitions. Just expecting to go from scraping by staying in the league to outperforming teams who have been spending year on year is impossible. So we are going to just go out and beat Spurs, Liverpool, to a spot which would probably be occupied by City, Man Ure, Chelsea, Arsenal.
    The expectations from ONE signing are astonishing.
    Just because Mike Ashley did one interview saying he wanted to win something / finish in top four it doesn’t mean we should be burning the stadium to the ground if it doesn’t happen this season.
    I will be happy if the club go in the right direction, I don’t expect to turn into challengers overnight.

  • 32 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:17 AM

    If we spent a lot (bolted the horse to the cart), bought astutely, got rid of the chaff and realised the potential of the remainder, why shouldn’t we target top 4? If we don’t make it, it won’t be for want of ambition.

  • 33 chasing_rabbits // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:20 AM

    Top 8 would count for a huge improvement on what we’ve had to endure the past few seasons. It puts the foundations down to build on it the following season. You want us to jump from 15th to 4th with the same squad plus a few additions with completely new coaching staff in their first season.

    Looney tune got it spot on – its about seeing the club move in the right direction to start with and prove to us that things really are changing

  • 34 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:24 AM

    Chasing rabbits @30
    Your comments support a case for aiming higher.

    I’m not commenting on the new signing until I’ve seen him play a few games. He could be another Cabella.

    I wish I could share your confidence in Cabella. I’d look to get our money back, but couldn’t see anyone offering as much as half. No doubt it’s because of players like Cabella that McClaren is reluctant to stick his neck out and aim higher.

  • 35 chasing_rabbits // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:26 AM

    Blackley I don’t think anybody on this blog disagrees with you that the squad needs an overhaul & some top coaching…

    As for spending alot you’d be talking about assembling pretty much a complete new team, sticking them together for the first time and expecting them to qualify for champions league. It doesn’t matter how good a player is or what he’s worth, it doesn’t mean he’ll waltz into this league and be a superstar… Falcao, Di Maria to name two straight away.

  • 36 Sazzer // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:28 AM

    Lee “overtheline” Charnley:

  • 37 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:30 AM

    Chasing Rabbits
    I’m talking about a target. It’s not like you play your joker and get extra points if you call it correctly.

    If you fail to meet your target, no harm done. But if you don’t aim high, you breed a mentality that says to the players we can afford to lose a good few games here and there and still reach our target.

  • 38 Tinman // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:31 AM


    How many have you had?

  • 39 chasing_rabbits // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:32 AM

    Cabella is a quality player with lots of ability… What he lacked last year in his first season in this league was a coach good enough to teach him to adapt his game to suit the league. He was voted player of the season in ligue 1, which counts for something surely?! And as I just proved with Falcao &. Di Maria is that its no surprise to see people who are used to being the best players in the team to come to England and struggle to find their feet straight away. And they had Louis Van Gaal coaching them. Cabella had Pardew for half the season then Carver. I am not writing him off until he’s had another chance under the new coaching staff.

  • 40 Tinman // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:34 AM

    You say Ashley targeted Champions League. No he didn’t. In fact he didn’t even target a cup, he simply said he will not leave until we do, he included Champions League in that.

    Last season we were nearly relegated.
    This season top 8 is a fair target, if we finish top 8, it does not mean we could not finish 6th, 5th or even 4th. Nobody is discounting that, as unlikely as it will be.

    You are muddling up aims and objectives pal.

  • 41 Tinman // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:36 AM

    chasing, agree on Cabella, look at the Chelsea game for example. Best game he played, looked world class against the best team in the league. Now I’m not saying he will perform like that every week, but it shows it’s in the locker, waiting to be coaxed out.

  • 42 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:38 AM

    Chasing Rabbits
    I agree @35. I’m not saying you can expect instant success. But you can target it.

  • 43 lesh // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:40 AM


    Jane’s back on!

    Ed, please, please try to filter out the multi-name posters.

  • 44 chasing_rabbits // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:41 AM

    Aiming for 8th is aiming high!! Its certainly higher than 15th!!

    And its alright saying “no harm done” but we as fans now have expectations for the upcoming season and if we’re told we’re aiming for Europe and don’t get there (because its completely unrealistic) then we’ll be all over Ashley, Charnley & McClaren after explanations, start the protests etc. Last year the target was 10th minimum, we didn’t meet that and each one of us was pissed about it, but rightly so. Now We’ve asked for the club to be clear about what they are trying to achieve and they given us that so far.

    Think about it, its not just me that thinks your mental for suggesting it.

  • 45 lesh // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:44 AM

    Could it be that the target of at least eighth is this season’s target?

    It’s unrealistic to pitch for ECL in one season and perhaps the message ought to be eighth this season aiming for ECL in say three.

  • 46 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:48 AM

    World class against Chelsea? I remember he had a few moments. If he looked world class at times, what does that make Hatem Ben Arfa?

  • 47 Our Toon // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:48 AM

    Tinman & chasing

    Got to disagree on Cabella, he played well for 45mins against chelsea, didn’t score and didn’t get an assist…no good beating a man without having the end product and that’s his biggest issue, end product is very poor

  • 48 chasing_rabbits // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:50 AM

    Lesh, the way McClarens going on is that he wants to build a team over the next few windows to do just that. I’m guessing that’s why there’s an option for a further 5years if he manages to achieve it. Which is why I’m fairly confident he is going to be backed with the investment. I think Ashley will trust McClaren much more with the money to spend than he ever did Pardew.

  • 49 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:51 AM

    We shouldnt be happy with 8th because we compare it to targets of 15th.

  • 50 expatmag // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:52 AM

    Chasing Rabbits

    You will get used to Blackley in time. He comments on here purely to argue and nothing else. That is why he is known as the blog idiot and apparently banned from the blog recently for a time.

  • 51 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:57 AM

    Chasing rabbits
    You may be all over the club for failing to meet targets. But I wouldn’t criticise the club for saying “We’re targeting 4th. That may be unrealistic in this first season and we may fall short but that is our aim. My staff and I will be instilling it into the players, and we’ll take it in to every game we play. We’re here to win something and we won’t stop trying until we do.”

  • 52 Our Toon // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:57 AM

    I’d snap ya hand off for 8th right now. That’s progress, CL is unattainable this season or even in the next couple of years, man utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Citeh, Arsenal will always spend more than us and attract better players.

    We’ve bought 1 lad for 14m, let’s have some realism back 8 to 10th I’d be happy with

  • 53 chasing_rabbits // Jul 12, 2015 at 12:58 AM

    Our Toon

    That’s a fair point based on what we’ve seen so far but i would say half that problem is again coming back to coaching & confidence. Its not something he struggled with in france. I’ll mention Falcao again. Only managed 4 goals last season I think, really struggled to come up with the end product. I just have a good feeling about Cabella, he more than capable and has great potential

  • 54 chasing_rabbits // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:05 AM


    Well yes that’s pretty much what he’s doing but less the 4th place finish bit. He’s told us that they’re trying to create that atmosphere where the players believe they can win, but is he trying to have the players & fans believe they can challenge the top 4 teams? I don’t think he is this season. I think he’s got 3 years to try & build a squad capable of that.

  • 55 lesh // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:08 AM


    Agree wholeheartedly – you’ve just justified my comment. Thanks

  • 56 Our Toon // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:09 AM

    Chasing Rabbits

    The big difference between Falcao and Cabella is that Falcao did his cruciate….i think it was the 2nd time in his career. He hadn’t played for 7 months, needed games consistently and never got it at man utd. Don’t forget Falcao prior to his injury absolutely ripped Chelsea apart with an excellent hattrick at Ath Madrid beat Chelsea in the super cup (EL winners v CL winners) we probably won’t see that Falcao again because of his injury.

    Cabella wants to much time on the ball, hasn’t adapted to the speed of the prem, holds onto the ball to long amd allows the opposition to reorganise and slows down our attacks with pointless stepovers. Cabella is ideal for Italy or France but not for the fast paced prem, his vision, crossing and shooting were all poor last season!!

    Just my opinion though buddy, hope I’m proven wrong

  • 57 chasing_rabbits // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:09 AM

    Expatmag, thanks for the advice. I wouldn’t want to be tarnished with that brush so on that note Blackley lets just agree to disagree on it all.

  • 58 Mister Tuff // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:11 AM

    MR Tubbs set no time limits on his aim to get CL.
    McLaren has to do Tubbs bidding- it would seem logical to suggest a more achievable target now and then later go for the CL spot.
    However, if Wally does not really do well this season Mr Tubbs may not authorise getting more quality players.
    I think the coaching team -so far -looks very very decent. I think the bloke Cathro is going to be the real superstar.
    Described by his previous manager Nuno Santo as a genious and a visionary.
    Decent start -note only a start. Lets see what happens in the next couple of weeks.

  • 59 chasing_rabbits // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:15 AM

    Our Toon

    Again very fair point cant disagree with that at all! He’s showed he’s struggling in those areas, but I hope those are the sorts of issues that can be taught out of him, he needs somebody who can spend time with him, and let him know where he’s going wrong. He didn’t have that with Pardew or Carver & I imagine the lad got very frustrated last season not being able to live up to his potential. We’ll see in time though how he gets on

  • 60 DicBDownUnder // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:15 AM

    I know it’s not the current debate, although I do have a good feeling about cabella this year. Possibly given more freedom to attack and drift, but I think Anita will flourish this year. Played in CM, In a team that will hopefully play passing football instead of hoofball. He knows how to play, just hasn’t been able to with Pardews crap tactics

  • 61 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:20 AM

    Chasing Rabbits
    Ashley spoke about the target being to win something, cups or Champions League qualification. That should remain the stated aim from that day forward, going into every season. It should not be diluted. We shouldnt be saying “well not this season, but perhaps the next one or the one after that”.

    Bolt the horse to the cart now and give it a good slap. Either do it, or if you’re not truly serious, don’t make such lofty claims in the first place.

  • 62 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:22 AM

    I have a feeling we’ll see the same Cabella next season and for a long time fans will be saying McClaren’s not playing him correctly.

  • 63 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:24 AM

    I hold out more hope for Anita.

  • 64 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:26 AM

    Chasing rabbits
    It’s all about opinions.

  • 65 Our Toon // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:28 AM

    Chasing Rabbits

    Having said all that though Cabella in a team which has a fit SDJ, Wijinaldum, Sissoko, Anita etc could well bring the best out in him. Last season it seemed he was trying to hard at times….maybe better quality will bring out the best in him!!

    We can all hope

  • 66 Our Toon // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:30 AM


    Hopefully we see the best in Anita bud, I think all the midfielders will enjoy the new passing style rather than going direct!! I’m quite excited…..cautiously optimistic!!

    This regime though always find a way to bring the circus back into town though!!

  • 67 chasing_rabbits // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:33 AM

    We’ll live in hope!

    Soccer_Sauce reporting that Mitrovic deal is still on & will go through…

    I know you shouldn’t believe everything you read but Soccer_Sauce are 99% accurate with their reports… Here’s hoping!

  • 68 mickalfas // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:38 AM

    In reply to a earlier post ,I said top 8 ,you said where’s the ambition ?
    Ffs ,we’re so far behind the top 4 ,top 8 is ambition for this season !!
    I would love to finish higher ,if you think we’re going to catch the top 4 ,your deluded
    Unless Ashley buys for £200m now lol,it’ll take a few seasons to repair the damage that fat fcuking parasite has caused

  • 69 chasing_rabbits // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:44 AM


    See expatmag’s post @ 50… I’ve been through this with Blackley but it was a lost cause for which I refer you to post 50…

    But I couldn’t agree more with your post there. We’ve got work to do to catch Swansea & West Ham, never mind the top 4. Even Liverpool & Spurs cant break into them so we have no chance at the minute.

  • 70 awaydays // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:52 AM

    Blackley ashley actually said he wont sell until hes won something or qualified for the champions league he never said cl spots are a target this season

  • 71 mickalfas // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:54 AM

    Chasing rabbits
    Fair point mate lol,I’m on a phone and have to count back to the @50 to read comments ,its tricky

  • 72 Mister Tuff // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:56 AM

    Blackley – if you feel that you’ve been deceived by Wally who has only targetted an eighth place finish. You want to consider that you are the victim of a deception. In that case you need to get yourself to Benton to make further enquiries and then arrest (citizens arrest) Wally for deception.
    I’ll let you borrow my squad car -but no using the siren.

  • 73 The overrated Frenchman // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:56 AM

    On Cabella, I see him as a “luxury” player. I think he might do well at Citeh or Chelsea where he has world class players around him and he’s just icing on the cake. He does have some pretty good tricks in his bag. However, we are not Citeh or Chelsea, and for us Cabella is a “luxury we can’t afford”.

  • 74 chasing_rabbits // Jul 12, 2015 at 1:58 AM


    Me too, its a pain ain’t it lol

  • 75 Our Toon // Jul 12, 2015 at 2:05 AM

    Overrated french man

    Luxury players actually case damage as an attacking entity, Cabella was a liability and far from a luxury last season, I think obertan got the same amount of goals and more assists than him….does that make Obertan a luxury as well?

    Jay Jay Ocacha who played for fat sham at Bolton was a luxury player, he was someone who only cam alive with the ball at his feet….Cabella actually worked hard for the team defensive he was just shite attacking.

  • 76 Our Toon // Jul 12, 2015 at 2:06 AM


    If you feel you have been deceived by McClaren you could always join me in boycotting until the regime go….vote with your feet, you won’t though will you

  • 77 Our Toon // Jul 12, 2015 at 2:08 AM

    Chasing Rabbits

    I really want to see mitrovic here, I don’t care if it’s only for a year…his goals can help us attract others in the following season

  • 78 awaydays // Jul 12, 2015 at 2:08 AM

    On cabella guys he has come from well a pretty poor league yes hes had a year but some players take more time to adapt especially a cabella-esque type player
    And a quick note on riviere i believe he will come good he just needs to find his shooting boots has everything else.. . Both need an injection of confidence maybe the “wally with the brolly” will give them a kick up the backside haha

  • 79 mickalfas // Jul 12, 2015 at 2:12 AM

    All I’m hoping for atm ,is that signing Gini ,which imo is a fantastic signing,,that this is the first step in the right direction ,to be followed up with many massive steps in the same direction
    Not fcuking sideways or backwards ,only time will tell lads !

  • 80 magscar // Jul 12, 2015 at 2:16 AM


    Few threads back

    Yes I think you did ( sorry just catching up on about 36 hours of the Blog – god knows why!).

  • 81 Our Toon // Jul 12, 2015 at 2:17 AM

    Away days

    Riviere has never had shooting boots, as the french sports journos said….nufc have paid to much for a poor player!! Cabella has come from a poor league but so did Remy, Cabaye, HBA, Sissoko, Diafro Sakho, Samir Nasri etc etc. Sometimes we just need to face what’s in front of us and call it what it is. Cabella a show pony that has 1 trick and no end product and Riviere decent game with back to goal but a bigger donkey than Shola

  • 82 mickalfas // Jul 12, 2015 at 2:22 AM

    Can someone explain to me about all these so called lesser leagues, are the national teams of Holland and France, so much worse than England ? Sorry

  • 83 chasing_rabbits // Jul 12, 2015 at 2:27 AM

    Our Toon

    Me too, he would be perfect in front of that midfield. If Cabella can come good then with de Jong fit & Wijnaldum providing the service we could easily tear apart most defences. Then like you suggest we would probably lose him to one of the CL clubs. Just our own defence that needs sorting out! If Mitrovic deal comes off, i might start to have some seriously positive thoughts about this season. I would take Mitrovic as the only ST signing so long as Cisse stays for cover if Mitrovic is injured or rested. If we bring in Austin as well they’d both expect to start every week and 1 (or both) would become unhappy. Unless he opts for 2 up top but you’d sacrifice one of the MF’s

  • 84 Our Toon // Jul 12, 2015 at 2:29 AM


    The answer is quite as simple as that, we are discussing the quality of the leagues not the quality of the national teams. How many of the french national team actually play in France?


    I’d say around 3 or 4 at best and they play for PSG….matuidi and Rabiot play for PSG off the top of my head can’t think of who else is in the national squad

  • 85 Our Toon // Jul 12, 2015 at 2:31 AM

    Chasing Rabbits

    My fear is that we will sell some decent squad players to balance books, or a Sissoko/Cisse which I think would be counter productive. The regime always do something to make things go belly up

  • 86 mickalfas // Jul 12, 2015 at 2:38 AM

    Fair point mate
    But they do produce the quality players ,which for whatever reason we dont on the scale they do

  • 87 King Colback // Jul 12, 2015 at 2:43 AM

    This popped up on twitter looks interesting, can only hope it’s true
    Would love to see Mitrovic, Austin and 2 Centre backs sign

  • 88 chasing_rabbits // Jul 12, 2015 at 2:44 AM

    Our Toon

    I’m praying they have learnt their lesson with pulling stunts like that now… Id like to think McClaren would probably try to interfere as well where as Pardew & Carver would have just accepted it. We’ll see how it pans out. If Sissoko goes then imo he would need replacing. We have the numbers in MF but not the quality. Sissoko is one of the better players in the team and to build a squad to start challenging for top places we need to keep those sorts of players. Get rid of Gouffran & Obertan sure!

  • 89 King Colback // Jul 12, 2015 at 2:44 AM

    Don’t know much about Rudiger, does anyone?

  • 90 Our Toon // Jul 12, 2015 at 2:45 AM


    With the way the FA and Greg Dyke are going with the quota of HG players in the prem the only thing they’ve ensured is that the quality of the league has reduced and the value of HG especially British players has risen. Just look at our best clubs in Europe being swept aside by Monaco and PSG. Fortunately for us the prem has some excellent imports because the HG lads aren’t that good.

  • 91 Our Toon // Jul 12, 2015 at 2:49 AM

    Chasing Rabbits

    Wijinaldum joining will hopefully mean that Sissoko is pushed out wide on the right wing, think sissoko can be very effective from there. I think we should go for Shakiri for the left wing, 10m for him is a bargain, he turned down Stoke and is available

    Austin I’d steer well clear of, he’s vastly overrated and all because he’s English. He’ll be a Darren Bent type of forward whose good for relegation battling teams but won’t produce when he’s got better competition than Zamora

  • 92 mickalfas // Jul 12, 2015 at 2:53 AM

    Spot on !!

  • 93 chasing_rabbits // Jul 12, 2015 at 2:57 AM

    Our Toon

    When he uses his pace & power down the wings he can get in some good positions for supplying into the box. With Mitrovic in the middle its a much better target.

    Interesting on Austin, most have been in favour of the move, never thought about it like that. But links nicely to your post before that about HG players not producing the same quality as the imports. I would definitely Mitrovic over Austin though.

    Nice call on Shakiri, you haven’t got Charnley’s number have you because there’s no way he’ll think of that!!

  • 94 Our Toon // Jul 12, 2015 at 3:04 AM

    Chasing Rabbits

    Ahahaha fortunately for Charnley I don’t have his number, Sissoko can come good, needs to work on his 1st touch.

    Mitrovic is well worth the amount being banded about, Austin just doesn’t do it for me…..i know alot rate him on here but 15m for a player whose 25 and in his last year of contract or a CL player who 20 and can recoup is Bony type of money later in Mitrovic…..has to be Mitrovic all day long

  • 95 chasing_rabbits // Jul 12, 2015 at 3:29 AM

    Case closed right there mate!

  • 96 switch365 // Jul 12, 2015 at 3:30 AM

    From what I’ve read as latest news, it would appear that Matip has ruled out moving and wants an extended contract at Shalke.
    Current names being banded about as potential targets are:
    Joël Veltman – Ajax. haven’t seen
    Aleksandar Dragovic – D Kiev. haven’t seen
    Samuel Umtiti – Lyon. decent but not outstanding
    Aymen Abdennour – Monaco. who looks an absolute beast
    Nicolas N’Koulou – Olympic Marseille. apparently a bid in for him

  • 97 ilovetoon8788 // Jul 12, 2015 at 3:51 AM

    Apparently mitrovic is set to seal signing for us. But I’ll belive it when he holds the wonga top.

    Also rumors are Austin is still our number 1 target. We want both mitrovic and Austin. Not just one.

  • 98 thegaffer // Jul 12, 2015 at 4:17 AM

    Cisse, Sissoko, Tiote, Coloccini and a few other shite (Willo, Saylor, Gouffran, Obertan, Rivière) should be sold..

  • 99 Our Toon // Jul 12, 2015 at 4:33 AM

    Cisse shite is he? Better record than Austin last season whose apparently worth 15m

  • 100 Blofal // Jul 12, 2015 at 6:03 AM

    With decent service I think Cisse could score a bag full. He needs it on a plate mind.

  • 101 Our Toon // Jul 12, 2015 at 6:09 AM


    Agreed with service Cisse could score a shed load of goals however I disagree with the notion it needs to be on a plate for him. Swansea away, Southampton at home, Villa at home, Chelsea double away….for from being on a plate and that’s just a few goals.

    Austin however needs them on a plate

  • 102 The overrated Frenchman // Jul 12, 2015 at 6:18 AM

    Rudiger is a fantastic prospect. Better than Matip in my opinion. Don’t know why he has come in the conversation relevant to us though. If he leaves Germany it will be for a top club, no doubt about that. I’ve seen Chelsea mentioned I think…?

  • 103 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 12, 2015 at 6:38 AM

    It would be great if we got in all the players we needed this window, but I have been here long enough to know that doesn’t happen.

    We should at least get:

    2 x CB
    2 x FW
    1 x DMF
    1 x W
    1 x RB (young backup)

    Then move on:


    Consider the future of:


  • 104 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 12, 2015 at 6:40 AM

    Come to think of it, we probably need a few more signings!

    …and I know it will never happen this window, but probably over the next 3 years. The problem is alot of the important players will most likely leave as well…

  • 105 Nufc-83 // Jul 12, 2015 at 6:41 AM

    Our toon cisse certainly does need it on a plate as the player who scored them wonder goals has well and truly left the building. For me cisse is useless can’t finish 1v1, does nothing in build up but lose the ball, not strong in the air. Granted he gets in good positions but don’t think the team can carry a player like that when our backs are against the wall. Would much rather Perez than cisse anyday of the week as his all round play is miles better already.

  • 106 lochinvar // Jul 12, 2015 at 6:42 AM

    Mitrovic and others are deluded by the myth of the Champions League especially if they are playing in Leagues less competitive than the Premiership. Charnley and co. need to remind players agents of a few facts.
    If a team is in the First stage of the Champions League you get six games against three sides in your mini league. Blow that and you are history.
    Playing in the Premiership for Newcastle you get 8 games against Champions League sides ( arsenal,city, manure, chelski ) and add in Spurs and Liverpool that’s 12 big games. Add in a couple of derby games and a few others then that trumps a few Champions League games – unless of course you are trying to join Real Madrid or Barcelona.
    Think that’s about right but players such as Mitrovic need to realise that joining the wrong League just to get a few games with a team in the Champions League might not be such a good move. Anyway by next year they can have both – Champions League and Premiership with Newcastle. Perfick.

  • 107 ilovetoon8788 // Jul 12, 2015 at 6:47 AM

    @Nufc-83 // Jul 12, 2015 at 6:41 AM

    i think i’ll judge cisse this season with more competition for places and better players and managers around him.

    he scored 11 in a truly awful team with awful coaches last season.

    i refuse to say he’s crap because there were easily 10 other players worse than him. he played with passion and put in effort. that was good enough for me.

  • 108 lochinvar // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:07 AM

    I thought Cisse was being courted by Russian and Qatari clubs and that with doubts over his knee and age against him then we would take £12m for him ? If that happened is Rolan not a similar poacher and his replacement ? Rolan being younger and with sell on value if he makes the grade.
    Newcastle Bid €15M For Uruguayan International striker
    10:48 pm, Saturday, July 4th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 8 Comments
    There is a report in France that Newcastle have bid €15M for Bordeaux’s 22 year-old striker Diego Rolan, but that Bordeaux do not want to sell their prized asset, who Newcastle were linked with over a year ago.


  • 109 sparky55 // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:13 AM

    No point in any of the midfield / attacking signings we’re allegedly going for if the defence is left as it is.

    In the good old days we had shearer and Co helping us score the three / four / five goals we needed to win a game due to our defence being so poor.

    We don’t have a shearer any more, we don’t have the magnificent wingers we used to have anymore, we don’t have Rob Lee anymore, we don’t have any of the great number 10’s we’ve had over the years…the only thing we do have like the good old days is the p!ss poor defence….so the one thing we should actually be concentrating on more than anything is the defence.

    The best coaches in the world couldn’t improve Willo and Colo…their respective positions are arguably the two most important positions on the pitch and yet we’ve put up with these two muppets for the last 5 years and I don’t think they’d get a game anywhere else in the premiership

    Yes we need a replacement striker for the departing Cisse but we do have Riviera and Perez, and we’re definitely going after one more striker so we’ll be ok up there, we have SDJ for the No 10 slot, we have an abundance of midfielders so even if we don’t sign another midfielder after wiggy I think we’ll be ok there…it’s the defence that worries me.

    We have a good right back but no replacement. We have an average left back in Hiadara with Dummett as a replacement or visa versa.

    We have no centre backs whatsoever and arguably only dummet as starting or replacement CB.

    We all know what injuries did to us last year so IMO we need a reserve right back, three new competing centre halves with Dummet in the back ground, and another left back.

    We have Good and Lacelles in the back ground but not quite ready yet…maybe 2 years away so in the meanwhile we need to recruit 4 / 5 defenders with 20 million being spent.

    That means bye – bye Sissoko but I’d be happy to see him go for between 15 and 20 million if it means we sign four good defenders to give us the defence we need and have something we can rely on rather than rely on average strikers to score 3 or 4 or 5 goals a game to keep us in a game never mind win it.

  • 110 will die for the toon army // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:15 AM

    No doubt Cisse is good he has been to our rescue a no. of times. If its Austin for Cisse, I rather keep Cisse. For that young German defender we can give him first team football

  • 111 Ron Knee // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:17 AM

    I think Rolan is worth considering. I know some Bordeaux supporters who rate him highly. They’d be very p*ssed off if he was sold. Surely a good indicator of his quality!

  • 112 geordieboy83 // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:19 AM

    Lads and lasses has anybody heard from toonfromleeds at Leeds at all? Bit worrying how quiet he’s been since surgery. If you’re reading this hope all is well lad.

    Rudiger may well happen as he himself has said he has no interest in joining a big club and hamper his development as he’s so young.
    Veltman would be a fantastic signing in the verthongen mould.
    Anybody think it’s worth a cheeky loan punt on vermaelen

  • 113 sparky55 // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:24 AM


    Janmaat new CB new CB

    Aarons Colback Wiggy Anita Cabella

    SDJ New CF

  • 114 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:25 AM

    Don’t understand the hurry to get rid of Cisse – his goals kept us up last season.
    If we are to sell we need to bring in a proven goalscorer before we sell!

  • 115 Mag52 // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:27 AM

    Get real some of you guys. An eight placed finish as a target for the coming season looks good to me (targets can always be exceeded anyway). Provided this goes along with a serious attempt at the cup competitions, I’ll be more than happy with the first season under SM.
    With reference to the previous post, an under performing team can be turned around big time by a new( better) manager. You’ve only got to look at Palace last season to see that.

  • 116 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:32 AM

    I’d settle for 8th in the league next season and WINNING by more than one goal so I can sit and relax watching.

  • 117 Nufc-83 // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:33 AM

    A team like ours can’t carry a player like cisse I mean you may say his goals kept us up but if we actually had a player who could link the play and hold the ball would we have conceded as many? We would have kept possession and probably not conceded some of the easy goals that got shipped. Austin is much better than cisse as he offers a physical threat which cider does not, when cisse is scoring it’s fine but when he’s not then I would rather the ball boy be playing or even play with 10 men. The player we signed and lit up the Prem was destroyed by pardew.

  • 118 Nufc-83 // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:34 AM

    Lol cider is the new nickname for cisse if anyone had not heard.

  • 119 cestriasteve // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:38 AM

    If mitrovic signs then I think it’s hats off to SM that’s 2 really big players who have decided to play for us rather than better teams that their individual profile fits.

    Can you imagine if we got Abdennour what a potential spine of a team we would have. He’s my favourite CB in Europe at the minute and I don’t think Zouma get enough pitch time either.

  • 120 check the toastie // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:42 AM

    Nufc – totally agree, loved Cisse wen he first came, played with energy passion and a smile, he has been screwed by the previous coaching staff.

    You never know he could recapture his enthusiasm but agree his link up play has been awful, he has given up under former regime. Which was inept.

    Things are looking up, however lets not forget we still have an horrendous back four.

  • 121 cestriasteve // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:42 AM


    Asking for 2CB to adapt to the EPL is too much to ask for, 1 is enough for me, move on Willo and keep chubs and Collo.
    1 fast skilful CB who can head it, that’s all we need, God knows where that’s coming from like.

  • 122 Nufc-83 // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:43 AM

    I have only seen the clips of mitrovic and he obviously looks beastly in the air but what’s he like on the floor? Can he bring the ball down under pressure and lay it off easily? Has he got quick feet to get shots away under pressure? Anything else apart from power/strength and heading ability to mention?

  • 123 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:48 AM

    Not saying we should not sell Cisse -BUT we need to get a proven goalscorer in before we sell him. As who else have we got to stick the ball in the net.

  • 124 Average_Contents // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:49 AM

    Lmfco @ chubs. Gave me a chuckle in work, on a Sunday, starting at 6am till 6pm, with a twat of a supervisor. I love it :/

  • 125 cestriasteve // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:49 AM

    Nufc 83,

    He’s got the lot mate, ask jayphoto, he will be a star that kid. It’s SDJ that worries me, I loved the guy before we signed him, was sure he was the next Matt LeTiss at the toon, but now I don’t know where he fits in. Where’s Lilongwe when you need him, he knows his formations.
    Someone any ideas??

  • 126 Nufc-83 // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:51 AM

    Charlie tbh I am with you on that as rivière needs shipping out with Armstrong going on loan for full season. We need at least two sts through the door before considering selling cisse imo

  • 127 expatmag // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:51 AM


    It certainly looks like the start of a new beginning but it will more evident or NOT in the coming weeks.

    However, in favour so far, we have:

    1……To thank Crystal Palace for paying us for the inept one. What a bonus!!!!!!

    2…..To thank heavens Carver has gone. Never gave I been mire embarrassed to be a NUFC supporter while he was in charge. A total amateur.

    3…..We now have an experienced tactically astute Head Coach and a thoroughly good support team behind him with a reputation for playing eye catching football.

    4……One quality signing so far and no purples gone. Rumour has it that Krul wants a new deal. If more quality arrives and the deadwood leaves, we can start to believe again.

    However, as much as we seem to be on the right track, I am always wary of Ashley throwing us a wobbly from left field to stuff things up.

    Those who think we should target top 4 next season (and he knows who he is) need a reality check. It will be hard enough to get top 8 as everyone is strengthening in depth. The PL is probably now the most competitive it has ever been where even lowly promoted clubs like Bournemouth and Watford are buying quality and experience for big money.

    It will be one hell of a season ahead but there is lots still to do, with final assessments probably due after the USA tour.

  • 128 cestriasteve // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:53 AM


    Did you not read my post about him coming in to buy a pair of swimming trunks before his holidays and he couldn’t get into XXL, I give him that knowing look( too many Greggs StevieBoy) and sent him off to Fenwicks as they do Hugo Boss in XXXL

    How he plays football I do not know, and the above is true I swear!!

  • 129 check the toastie // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:54 AM

    Wonder if coaches can improve Kruls distribution, will be interesting to view.
    With Janmaat and Haidaara attacking full backs they could provide the width and we could play 4312.

    ————————-De Jong———————–

    We actually only need one super high quality CB if Laselles is as good as he looks. If We need to spice things up Aarons Cisse Cabbella on bench, for me Colback is left back cover. Scum pals have said he was very decent there, preferred him actually in there…

  • 130 IITianToon // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:56 AM

    Do we trust The Mirror?

  • 131 cestriasteve // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:57 AM


    What a team that would be!!

  • 132 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 12, 2015 at 7:59 AM

    Two proven goal scorers in along with a centre half would do me fine

  • 133 will die for the toon army // Jul 12, 2015 at 8:13 AM

    If we get Aymen I wll be delighted but it looks impossible.

    We jst need one CB and may be some under cover full backs.

    if Colo and Willy are to leave then we have:
    New CB, Lacaseeles, Durmett and S. Taylor.

  • 134 lochinvar // Jul 12, 2015 at 10:31 AM

    It’s called ” managing expectation” , a common business practice.
    Finish 8th = ” job done”
    7th-5th =” better than expected”
    4th-2nd = ” knew we had it in us ”
    1st = party party !

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