Fans Shouldn’t Worry – Newcastle Sells Itself


A number of fans have been concerned that it will be very difficult to get our top targets into the club this summer, and we are certainly part of that group.

That was one reason we were absolutely delighted that not only did Wijnaldum sign for us yesterday – but he seems genuinely very keen to come to Tyneside.

Maybe we can thank Tim Krul for that,  since Georginio has said today that Tim has been telling him to move to Newcastle for the last six years – it’s such a great club with terrific fans – well – it finally paid off.

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Head coach Steve McClaren seems unconcerned that our top targets may not want to join Newcastle, and he says there’s really no need to put together a sales pitch to persuade players to join Newcastle United:

“We don’t need to. I don’t need to. We’ve had no problem, what Mike Ashley said about the club – the objectives – this isn’t a club that just wants to stay in the Premier League, which is important.¨

“I know that’s always the first objective, but now he’s kind of said it’s to get in to the top eight, to win something and we’re here for three years and that’s what we want to achieve.¨

“So we can sell that to players, to the present squad. We’ve said that already. We’re not just sitting here saying ‘we’re just going to stay in the league, let’s fight for that.’¨

“We’ve got loftier ambitions. Cup competitions – I like cups and anybody can get to a semi-final, a final, if you get the luck and the right kind of draw.¨ “Selling that to a player is no problem, the stadium is no problem, the crowd is no problem.¨

“In Europe, they see that Newcastle is a big club with great traditions.” “Down at the training ground, we can only create what we create in terms of environment, culture.¨

“We try to get everyone buying in,  there’s got to be a willingness from the players and the staff and they’re doing that.”

20 year-old striker Aleksandar Mitrovic will be deciding which club to join very soon, and one them in the running is still Newcastle, so with any luck we could get our second excellent player through the door in the next couple of days.

And it seems that Georginio will not travel to the US with the squad tomorrow, because he has some personal stuff to attend to back in Holland,  after the whirlwind last couple of days and he only reported back to training at PSV last Monday.

He will follow the squad out in a few days – so presumably he will be available for the last couple of games.

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134 comments so far

  • mickalfas

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:13 PM

    Comment #1

    Ashley OUT !!

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  • BoyDoneGood

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:14 PM

    Comment #2

    [Reposted from two threads back]

    BandB comment 16

    Mentioning me – in response to what, exactly?

    Since you expect some I-told-you-soing, let’s recap on the various tenuous predictions I made in Feb/Mar, of which everyone was rubbished and most were indeed savaged by yourself and the regular pessimists.

    1) Around 35 would be the relegation cut off
    2) We would finish around 40
    3) Carver would not be “nailed on” nor even revert to assistant, but would be on his bike [Munstermag – so not “ALL of us” here said he’d remain…”
    4) “Wait and see…” New high calibre coach (I wanted innovative, so S MacC is only so-so… but we’ll see)
    5) “Wait and see…” Contrary to oft repeated twaddle here, I said Newcastle would be buying players in the over-£10M range.

    So what on earth prompts you to pontificate in such a smugly authoritative way? And to sneer at those whose analysis is demonstrably light years better than your own?

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:17 PM

    Comment #3

    My recollection is that Ashley targeted the Champions League. McClaren keeps talking about top 8. Is there some miscommunication or am I missing something?

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  • jane

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:21 PM

    Comment #4

    “My recollection is that Ashley targeted the Champions League. McClaren keeps talking about top 8.”

    don’t think that difference matters much.

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  • jane

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:22 PM

    Comment #5

    “Since you expect some I-told-you-soing”

    i told you so. i did.

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  • Bambams

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:24 PM

    Comment #6

    I hope we can get a commanding CB soon !

    Our defence has been shocking the last few years.

    Can’t remember the last time we were ‘plus’ goal difference in double figures at the end of a season

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  • mickalfas

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:28 PM

    Comment #7

    It doesn’t matter anyway ,we are far from being a champions league club,possibly if he keeps investing over the next few years
    SM is probably giving a more realistic view ,the top 4 is so far ahead it’ll take some catching up with them

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:29 PM

    Comment #8

    Jane @4
    Why’s that?

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  • jane

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:32 PM

    Comment #9

    i don’t think Ashley was meaning Champions league this season anyway probably.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:32 PM

    Comment #10

    Mickalfas
    The boss set the target. That should be the target. What is the point of an 8th place finish? Where’s the ambition?

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  • jane

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:35 PM

    Comment #11

    Blackley and Brownlie i don’t think it matters much because top 8 would be fine and anything more a bonus.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:36 PM

    Comment #12

    If you set a target of top 4, you might finish 8th. How are you going to attract top players looking to play European football if the manager isn’t even targeting it?

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:38 PM

    Comment #13

    Top 8. These are not good words from Steve McClaren.

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  • chasing_rabbits

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    Comment #14

    Blackley @ 10

    Surely setting minimum 8th finish is ambitious on last year? I wouldn’t have expected them to set Europe as the target this season. We have to work towards it. Plus the competition for those places is more fierce than its ever been. Any one of 5 or 6 clubs (possibly more) could end up in the Europe places. McClaren wants to build a team over the next 2/3years to challenge for that but he knows its not achievable in 1 season. They’ve set a realistic target, that with the right investment can be achieved.

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  • jane

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    Comment #15

    McClaren said “now he’s kind of said it’s to get in to the top eight” i think the ‘he’ he is referring to is what Ashley is saying the target is for now.

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  • jane

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:46 PM

    Comment #16

    ” or am I missing something?”

    think that was it 😉

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  • Charlietoon

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:47 PM

    Comment #17

    B&B They are realistic words. We almost got relegated last year. If he comes out and says we want champions league, which we will not get with the current squad, he would be a laughing stock and we’d all be saying ‘we have another carver here’. Better to under promise and over deliver especially in his first season.

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  • chasing_rabbits

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:48 PM

    Comment #18

    Blackley do you really expect McClaren to take a team that’s been flirting with Relegation for the last few seasons, plus maybe 4/5 additions, and turn them into Champions League qualifiers in his first season. Do you think Leicester, West Brom, Villa etc have all set min top 4 finish as their target for next season. No, because its not realistic. We’ve got plenty of work to do to get back on par with the likes of Swansea, West Ham, Soton before we can challenge Spurs, Liverpool etc. And who here wouldn’t be happy with 8th place next season?!

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  • The overrated Frenchman

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:48 PM

    Comment #19

    Aspirations for the Champions League are pie in the sky surely. These days you basically have to buy your way in. OK, Soton made a run at it last season but in the end the depth of the rich clubs came through. A good cup run and top 8 is a reasonable ambition I think. After last season that would be decent progress. Still think we need another 3 or 4 top drawer players before that’s realistic though.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:52 PM

    Comment #20

    Top 8 wins nowt.

    Ashley has got the coach. If McClaren is confident in his coaching ability, and Ashley provides the horse, why shouldn’t we target Europe this season? It’s a target. It’s something to strive for. I thought

    Ashley was saying he is ambitious to get into Europe. But now we hear it’s not this season. It makes you think the spending will be modest this summer.

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  • chasing_rabbits

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:53 PM

    Comment #21

    Blackley if he set a target of top 4 & finished 8th you ‘d probably be the first to turn around and brand him a failure.

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  • GEORDIE69

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:56 PM

    Comment #22

    Aye McLaren try buying 8 more top class players before you start dreaming of top 8 with our current squad. Nobody can make Williamson, Orbetan, Gouffran ect top 8 players!!! We are desperate for at least 4 top defenders to face a full season in the Premier League..Oh and at least 2 top Centre Forwards and not forgetting another 2 top midfielders. Good luck with that.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:57 PM

    Comment #23

    Chasing Rabbits
    One thing’s for sure. If you don’t aim for something, you won’t get it. This is the problem with the squad and the club. No characters with a winning mentality. We’re having difficulty attracting top players. Top players don’t want modest targets.

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  • The Great Valerio

    Jul 11, 2015 at 11:58 PM

    Comment #24

    “…but he seems genuinely very keen to come to Tyneside.” Goes without saying *sideways look to camera*

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  • Looney_toon_89

    Jul 12, 2015 at 12:00 AM

    Comment #25

    Anybody who says we should be targeting top four THIS season is not all there.
    Top 8 is a good ambitious target especially if we are going to be having a go in the cups.
    It will take 5 or 6 players to get us into that top 8 bracket from where we are now with all the spending power all the other clubs have this season.
    2 CBs ( Colo & Taylor) out
    Cabella out ( Cabella / anita / tiote / Wijnaldum, Sissoko/ Colback/ De Jong / Abeid…. midfield too heavy, Cabella would be the best to offload)
    Cisse out ( while Newcastle can get a decent fee for him to help put money in the kitty ) Riveire out would be a bonus but I think if we could get him out on loan that would be a success.
    Obertan, Guffran out.

    IN
    CB – Matip would be ideal however supposedly not moving.
    LB – Not sure but if we have need a senior LB
    RW – Thauvin
    LW – not sure if newcastle are targeting but some upgrade on Guffran required.
    ST X 2 – if Cisse goes then Austin/ Mitrovic would be a class forward line with Perez available & Riveire available in case of emergency.

    That would still only be top 8.

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  • chasing_rabbits

    Jul 12, 2015 at 12:02 AM

    Comment #26

    Blackley

    Neither does 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th or 7th. What’s your point?

    I never expected them to splash out £100m plus to go all out and compete with United, City, Arsenal, Chelsea this season but I think he will give between £50m & £60m and that should allow us to compete with the teams who have pulled ahead over the last few seasons. Don’t forget that while we’ve gone windows without making any signings pretty much everybody else has invested in players. Coupled with the poor management we’ve had in place we’ve slipped behind those teams & McClaren has got to make the ground up first.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jul 12, 2015 at 12:02 AM

    Comment #27

    Geordie69
    Lots disagree with me that the squad needs a massive overhaul and some top coaching. We need to get rid of at least half of them. Carr should be earning his money by identifying plenty of astute buys.

    I wonder if Steve Black will be trying to instil a top 8 message?

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  • The overrated Frenchman

    Jul 12, 2015 at 12:02 AM

    Comment #28

    Of course top 8 wins nowt, but we’d have to spend a lot more money than we are likely to in order to push for higher than that. You can’t make a silk purse from a sow’s ear. (or in the case of many in our squad, a sow’s @rse)

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jul 12, 2015 at 12:06 AM

    Comment #29

    Chasing rabbits
    I don’t agree with Ashley that EPL qualification counts as winning something. But it counts for something. Top 8 counts for nothing.

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  • chasing_rabbits

    Jul 12, 2015 at 12:10 AM

    Comment #30

    Blackley I made a point earlier of saying last summer we bought in Cabella & now Wijnaldum who were both voted player of the season for their respective leagues before they joined so I think that makes a statement that we can still attract top players. I know Cabella struggled last season but ill say again that he will come good under the right management. And we didn’t seem to have any problems attracting Wijnaldum did we?

    And McClaren has openly come out and said that they trying to install a new mentality amongst the players to make them believe they can win and is using that same approach on all the transfer targets during discussions

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  • Looney_toon_89

    Jul 12, 2015 at 12:14 AM

    Comment #31

    top 8 does count for something, it counts for several million more than the places below, it counts from several further away from a relegation place & a crisis, & it counts for moving from near relegation, into the top half, and progression towards european competitions. Just expecting to go from scraping by staying in the league to outperforming teams who have been spending year on year is impossible. So we are going to just go out and beat Spurs, Liverpool, to a spot which would probably be occupied by City, Man Ure, Chelsea, Arsenal.
    The expectations from ONE signing are astonishing.
    Just because Mike Ashley did one interview saying he wanted to win something / finish in top four it doesn’t mean we should be burning the stadium to the ground if it doesn’t happen this season.
    I will be happy if the club go in the right direction, I don’t expect to turn into challengers overnight.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jul 12, 2015 at 12:17 AM

    Comment #32

    TOF
    If we spent a lot (bolted the horse to the cart), bought astutely, got rid of the chaff and realised the potential of the remainder, why shouldn’t we target top 4? If we don’t make it, it won’t be for want of ambition.

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  • chasing_rabbits

    Jul 12, 2015 at 12:20 AM

    Comment #33

    Top 8 would count for a huge improvement on what we’ve had to endure the past few seasons. It puts the foundations down to build on it the following season. You want us to jump from 15th to 4th with the same squad plus a few additions with completely new coaching staff in their first season.

    Looney tune got it spot on – its about seeing the club move in the right direction to start with and prove to us that things really are changing

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jul 12, 2015 at 12:24 AM

    Comment #34

    Chasing rabbits @30
    Your comments support a case for aiming higher.

    I’m not commenting on the new signing until I’ve seen him play a few games. He could be another Cabella.

    I wish I could share your confidence in Cabella. I’d look to get our money back, but couldn’t see anyone offering as much as half. No doubt it’s because of players like Cabella that McClaren is reluctant to stick his neck out and aim higher.

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  • chasing_rabbits

    Jul 12, 2015 at 12:26 AM

    Comment #35

    Blackley I don’t think anybody on this blog disagrees with you that the squad needs an overhaul & some top coaching…

    As for spending alot you’d be talking about assembling pretty much a complete new team, sticking them together for the first time and expecting them to qualify for champions league. It doesn’t matter how good a player is or what he’s worth, it doesn’t mean he’ll waltz into this league and be a superstar… Falcao, Di Maria to name two straight away.

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  • Sazzer

    Jul 12, 2015 at 12:28 AM

    Comment #36
  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jul 12, 2015 at 12:30 AM

    Comment #37

    Chasing Rabbits
    I’m talking about a target. It’s not like you play your joker and get extra points if you call it correctly.

    If you fail to meet your target, no harm done. But if you don’t aim high, you breed a mentality that says to the players we can afford to lose a good few games here and there and still reach our target.

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  • Tinman

    Jul 12, 2015 at 12:31 AM

    Comment #38

    Blackley,

    How many have you had?

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  • chasing_rabbits

    Jul 12, 2015 at 12:32 AM

    Comment #39

    Cabella is a quality player with lots of ability… What he lacked last year in his first season in this league was a coach good enough to teach him to adapt his game to suit the league. He was voted player of the season in ligue 1, which counts for something surely?! And as I just proved with Falcao &. Di Maria is that its no surprise to see people who are used to being the best players in the team to come to England and struggle to find their feet straight away. And they had Louis Van Gaal coaching them. Cabella had Pardew for half the season then Carver. I am not writing him off until he’s had another chance under the new coaching staff.

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  • Tinman

    Jul 12, 2015 at 12:34 AM

    Comment #40

    You say Ashley targeted Champions League. No he didn’t. In fact he didn’t even target a cup, he simply said he will not leave until we do, he included Champions League in that.

    Last season we were nearly relegated.
    This season top 8 is a fair target, if we finish top 8, it does not mean we could not finish 6th, 5th or even 4th. Nobody is discounting that, as unlikely as it will be.

    You are muddling up aims and objectives pal.

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