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McClaren – Players Beginning To Understand What I Want

9:10 am, Friday, July 17th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 111 Comments

There was a good interview yesterday with Newcastle head coach Steve McClaren, as he talked about the game on Tuesday night, but more importantly about the way the Newcastle players are slowly but surely understanding the new way he wants the team to play with good possession football and quick passing.

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Steve McClaren – players starting to understand

This is what Steve said, talking initially about the 2-1 loss to Club Atlas:

“I didn’t think in the first-half we were very good without the ball. I thought they were very aggressive.¨ 

“They won duels, they won more tackles than us, they broke the play more than u,s and at half-time we said: ‘Look after yourselves but, hey, you have to compete.”

“Once they did that in the second-half there was only one team in it.¨ “I was disappointed with the goals, disappointed – we need to be a better team without the ball.”

“We were in the second-half; we pushed on and pressed more compact, better shape, and dominated the game from the on.”

“There were signs that the players are taking on board what the coaches are asking them to do which is encouraging. They were brave and encouraged to play.¨ 

“As I say, we need to improve without the ball and be a better team. We did in the second-half and we need to continue that.”

Newcastle play Sacramento Republic in their third pre-season friendly tomorrow night at Bonney Field, and they are not an MLS club.

They were formed three years ago and play in a lower league – the United Soccer League (USL), and we may even see Georginio Wijnaldum make his first appearance for Newcastle.

The Dutchman certainly looked good in training yesterday, as he scored this great goal.

We could see how well he links up with former Dutchman Siem de Jong, who is also a class player and fit again after the trials and tribulations he had last season with various injuries.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Newcastle News · Recruitment · Scouting Network · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target




111 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Rotonda heights // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:14 AM

    our toon

    exactly. hopefully we’ll now finally move away from the god awful long ball containing rubbish and see some actual pass and move football being played at long last.

    Trouble is even a team with KK’s attacking principles couldn’t cover for colo, willo and saylor.

  • 2 King Colback // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:21 AM

    Newcastle have lodged a £15 million bid for Austin according to ESPN
    http://www.espn.co.uk/football/newcastle-united/story/2525845/newcastle-raise-offer-charlie-austin-qpr-transfer

  • 3 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:22 AM

    King Colback,
    The headline makes me think they have no real idea about what is going on. QPR have stated we have not made an offer, so how can we raise the offer? It is just guess work on ESPN’s part due to the betting being suspended.

  • 4 honest fan // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:23 AM

    Because if he goes to Chelsea over Porto imo it would be a money thing his says he wants cl football and nice weather well Chelsea don’t have nice weather and he’d prob only FA cup and league cup games surely he ain’t better than what they have already which would surgest we didn’t offer enough

  • 5 JDdubai // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:26 AM

    Honest Fan

    Maybe he is confident enough to think he can get game time with chelsea. Falcao was crap last season, Remy will probably leave, Costa has had injury issues.

    For a 20yr old, go there, get experience, maybe take a loan for a season or 2 like courtois did and come back as first choice.

    Doesnt necessarily mean he is only after the paycheck and certainly doesnt mean we didnt offer enough.

  • 6 hibbit // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:28 AM

    honest fan were is the story about chelsea wanting mits coming from not seen it anywhere

  • 7 nut meg // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:30 AM

    hibbit
    I’ve seen it but can’t remember where? I’have another look for it.

  • 8 nut meg // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:32 AM

    hibbit
    Not the one I but the same story… sort of.

  • 9 BandB // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:33 AM

    hibbit

    If you click the News Now button there are various versions of it there.

  • 10 hibbit // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:33 AM

    lilo its over a week since sir les said we had not bid ….maybe we have in the meantime …..or maybe its wishful thinking

  • 11 nut meg // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:33 AM

    It would help if I posted the link…sorry.
    https://www.clubcall.com/chelsea/chelsea-enter-striker-race-1775143.html?

  • 12 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:34 AM

    Honest fan

    If he went to Chelsea he’d be playing under the best manager in world football, someone who will go into the hall of fame as a great in terms of management. Costa was mainly rested for CL last season and Remy played in that competition.

  • 13 hibbit // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:36 AM

    thanks lads found it

  • 14 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:36 AM

    Rotonda

    We could buy Messi and Ronaldo and still lose more than we win, the defence should have been priority no1. Problem is we seem completely incapable of doing more than 1 thing at a time

  • 15 nut meg // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:38 AM

    Our Toon
    I would think that Mitrovic meant he wanted to play in the team every week for a team that qualifies for the CL.

  • 16 ToonRich // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:39 AM

    Would rather spend £15mil on Gabi Barbosa!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sbQHQsRXKM

  • 17 optimistic prime // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    Linked with well over a 100 players yet we’re still on the merry go round with the same two.

    3weeks to push and not a CB in sight,
    Does this window still look promising?

  • 18 beermonkey // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    it maybe true that Chelsea want to sign mitrovic it doesn’t mean he will play for them, he could be the next lakaku,
    Chelsea have lots of players out onloan each season, depends how bad we want him we could loan him

    not that I would want to loan him

  • 19 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:45 AM

    Net meg

    He could sign for Chelsea and they could loan him to Porto or Roma as part of his education. Served them well with Courtouis

  • 20 OneAlanShearer // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:47 AM

    I wouldn’t believe a word club call say. Espn might be closer to the truth.

  • 21 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    OP

    I’ve been banging on about the same thing for a while now, we’ve been completely duped in this constant drivel regarding Mitrovic or Austin when in all reality we need 2 CB’s.

    Personally I wouldn’t be to unhappy with Cisse, Perez, SDJ (if needed to play advanced role), Riviere as the attacking options until January. The defence however needs addressing now

  • 22 musomag // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:50 AM

    If Chelsea have bid £15m then Mit will go there for all the same reasons as most strikers. We’ll be pursuing Remy again before you know it

  • 23 lesh // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:54 AM

    Maybe Charnley’s taking advantage of McClaren’s absence and reverted to type – doing bugger all ’til his backside’s kicked!

  • 24 optimistic prime // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    Our toon

    As much as I’d like a striker I could live with what we have as long as we didn’t sell anyone, can’t say that about CB’S

    When I say live with It mean I’d be used to it.

    This window is shaping to be the same as the rest, lots of hot air but no real movement.

    I said last week toungue in cheek there’d be no signings until we get back from the USA, looks like that was closer to the truth than I thought.

  • 25 Jib // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    optimistic prime
    From next Tuesday it is 6 weeks until the window closes .

  • 26 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    If the club don’t sign at least 1 centre forward and 2 defenders of a high standard then the window will once again have been a disappointment, and will leave us ill equipped for the season ahead.

    We need these players in before the Sheffield United game on the 26th so that they have a chance to be incorporated into the side. Will it happen? I won’t be holding my breath.

  • 27 musomag // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    Probably…or letting teams pay big money for all our supposed targets and waiting until the deadline before putting insulting offers in for players who look to be left on the shelf

  • 28 hibbit // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    our toon …..the back 4 should have been sorted weeks ago Mc must see the problems we need 2 cb asp and cover for the lb / rb……. but not a word from the club and very little in the press ……are we in for a big surprise or a big let down…… i just dont know

  • 29 Bri // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:59 AM

    Talksport say NUFC have not yet bid for Austin, wonder if this is true

  • 30 croftus5678 // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:59 AM

    oh ffs now chelsea in for mitrovic !

    just leave the bloody deal now and take the offer off the table he would go to the big spenders anyways so no point wasting any more time ! i’m just cheesed that he’s dragged his feet so long that we have wasted a lot of time and energy around another failed signing 🙁

    if we dont get any of mitrovic/dost/austin what a waste of a window it will have been as usual.

    need a player to sign to keep us motivated and believing again please.

  • 31 padthemag // Jul 17, 2015 at 9:59 AM

    Wtf is going on we need another 4-5 players and we can’t even land a striker after 4 years of trying??? Mackems signed younes kaboul that would be an upgrade on colo or willo we are p!ss poor in the transfer market wiljandum will probs be it we have let 5 go£&@££!! Season tickets must have sold since the Dutch guy came in typical nufc fans

  • 32 will die for the toon army // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:00 AM

    Jst get a striker and CB.

  • 33 Bambams // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:00 AM

    We are not the quickest club for signing targets

  • 34 Offkey // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:02 AM

    21 days to first game and 46 days until end of transfer window. Whilst I think we will get players in I dont think that many will be in before our first match, hope I am proved to be wrong. It could be the case our first couple of games our poor because we have not got the bodies or because they have not had time to gel.

  • 35 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:03 AM

    Jib

    The domestic window opened on 9th June almost 6 weeks ago, the European window opened 17 days ago. In that time we’ve managed to bring in 1 player. Considering how bad last season was, you might be happy to wait 6 weeks but I want them in now as pre season is so important to build understanding etc. The defensive unit takes time to work as a team, they need to communicate with each other and understand each others game. Do you really want that to happen after the season starts?

  • 36 optimistic prime // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Jib

    That means nothing

    If you really wanted to go to a popular concert would you wait until the last week to buy a ticket?

  • 37 Jail for Ashley // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Unless we had of brought in Warnock or Burley (which was always possible under Mike Ashley) anyone would have been an upgrade on Carver. We have ended up with a sacked Championship manager who failed to get Derby promoted two years running despite spending a few quid. It is great having this new found optimism but why are some people heralding this as the start of a new era, a 14.5M player is more indicative of the new PL TV money rather than the fat man’s new ambition. Let’s not get carried away by a two minute interview. I seen new poster bobbylee ranting last night about some people wanting us to fail, nothing could be further from the truth. The reason many of us are so disenchanted from the club is because we are sick of seeing us deliberately fail orchestrated by the man in charge.

  • 38 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Hibbit

    I’ll go with big let down mate, it’s truly shocking how we have the same CB’s that got us relegated…We have the same CB’s for almost 9 years

  • 39 kevymartins // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Someone yesterday said we shouldn’t pay that for Austin we could get him cheaper. As I said QPR made it clear £15m or no one gets him regardless of contract because of they really wanted he would sign up for a year in the championship

    http://www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/ferdinand-confirms-qpr-considering-new-contract-offer-to-austin-as-newcastle-speculation-increases-wls-football

  • 40 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Kevy

    If he signs a new contract at a championship team then it says alot about Charlie Austin as a player and what he thinks of his own ability. Do you want someone who’s happy to waste a year in the championship at the age of 26?

    If he stayed he’d do so for the money, you know the very thing you dislike former players like remy for.

  • 41 Bambams // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    I have heard Charnley has had to upgrade his mobile phone ( dropped his in the toilet when Wini signed) but it won’t be delivered until Tuesday.

    Seemingly he has spoken to Kinnear and asked to borrow his mobile but this was refused…..

    So expect no signings until middle of next week fellas….

  • 42 Jail for Ashley // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    kevy,
    I can’t believe that some people are suggesting we leave it until the last minute to buy Austin to save a few quid, can we really afford to do that. With fans like that who needs Ashleys.

  • 43 stripes1009 // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    So if Mitrovic joins Chelsea, does that open the door to us signing Patrick Bamford?

  • 44 kevymartins // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    @Our Toon I disagree if it shows anything it would be commitment. Surely he would take a pay cut for his first year for new contract so he wouldn’t be there for his money. And you can’t say because what he thinks of his own ability alot of nufc players stuck around when we went down ie Tim Krul do you think Timmy thinks he is Championship Quality?

  • 45 expatmag // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    I dont believe for one minute Chelsea are in for Mitorvic. With Costa Falcao Remy and Bamford all vying for one position up front, it makes little sense.

    I see him signing for Porto and Austin going to someone like WHU.

    I agree with other on here. Why are we not signing central defenders?????,,

  • 46 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    Jail

    I wouldn’t pay 15m for a player especially when the defence hasn’t been sorted out. I’d rather we spend on getting really quality in at the back before we look to spend 15m on a striker who has failed multiple medicals!! 2 CB’s should be the main priority

  • 47 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    Wonder if Remy would fancy another season up here if Mitty went to Chelsea. He can play just as well as a lone forward or wide in a 433, and he seems just as comfortable in either role….. yeah dreaming o know

  • 48 optimistic prime // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Kevy

    So Austin is going to knock back a premier league move and take a pay cut to stay with Qpr?
    I think not

  • 49 kevymartins // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    I was thinking myself maby we would go for Austin as a loan deal like Remy but hope we learn to put a buy option in but can’t see that happening with Benteke going to Liverpool an all there will be teams putting in £15m bids no doubt about it.

  • 50 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Kevy

    Austin is already on quite a wage packet at QPR, Fernandes isn’t short in money either so if you think he’ll take a paycuy then you are deluded. Yes we had lads who stayed with us you are quite right, the lads who stayed with us though had always played football at the top level.

    Austin has come from the championship had 1 season in the prem, his situation is different to those who stuck by us. He should be wanting to prove himself in the prem as he is 26….27 by the time next season comes round, not settling for a season in the championship.

  • 51 Jail for Ashley // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Our Toon,
    It doesn’t matter what order we get them in, we need to get at least another four first team players. I honestly don’t know what is stalling getting defenders in but I have a feeling it has got to be a lack of clubs willing to take STaylor and/or Williamson off of our hands. I honestly believe that if we don’t sell either of them we will be stuck with our same tired calamitous defence.

  • 52 BandB // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    If you do absolutely everything in your power in pursuit of a goal and fail because of events beyond your control, there is no shame in it.
    The question is, are we doing everything in our power to complete deals?

    Some folks were making the point a couple just over a week ago that Wijnaldum’s people must have been giving us the come on because we would not have submitted a bid otherwise.
    If that was a rule of thumb then, it must still be a rule of thumb now.

  • 53 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    YCMIU

    Apparently Pards is in for Remy, 10m or 12m is the fee being discussed. Surely we could hijack that….I’d rather spend 10m or 12m on Remy than 15m on Austin

  • 54 BandB // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    If QPR decide they’ll take £12m for Austin, I don’t think we’ll be favourites to sign him anymore.

  • 55 Offkey // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    Off topic, Abeid and Satka have now gone out to America. If someone knows or has heard any reports, can someone tell me……

    Was this for some sort of extended rest or something else e.g. weren’t in first team plans or injuries in USA?

  • 56 kevymartins // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    @ Op why not? As I said a few of our own players did when we went down.

    Although I can’t see it happening because for a player of his quality you just know they will get the bid they are looking for because imo it is more than fair price tag put on him.

  • 57 Rotonda heights // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    jail

    I freely admit given his very chequered cv that SM certainly wasn’t my first choice, when there did appear to be other more exciting options out there.

    However, there are a combination of things that have made me re-appraise SM somewhat.

    Certainly it sounds as if SM wants to play football rather than the sit back and hope we nick one philosophy of the last 4 years. Allied to that I think we have played a blinder in getting Cathro on board.

    I, like everyone else am extremely concerned that the defense does not appear to have been addressed as there has to be something more concrete than just hoping one or 2 of Dummet, Lascelles, Satka and Good will come through.

    However, to constantly bemoan everything is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy of doom and gloom so the best we can do is hope that Charnley can amaze us, get off his proverbial and pull a few rabbits out in the next 3 weeks.

  • 58 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    Jail

    Going on Ashley’s past, do you really think if we bough Austin for 15m and considering we’ve signed Wij for 14.5m that he’ll spend what’s required on the defence? I don’t trust him enough to take that gamble so would prefer the defenders in first then spend what’s left on a forward if needs be

  • 59 BandB // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Rotonda

    Constant bemoaning certainly doomed Pardew.

  • 60 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    If we sign 1 forward, and 2 cbs, the window will have been just about adiquate. (Thats 4 senior players if you include gini)

    Add another fw to that number, and the window becomes “good” imo. (5 players)

    Add a further player (probably a full back) then it would be a very successful window,(6 players), given that some of the tripe would HAVE to be moved out to accomodate in all 3 scenarios

  • 61 Jib // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Chancel Mbemba
    Antonio Rudiger
    Lewis Dunk
    Ben Gibson
    Joel Matip
    Florentin Pogba
    Stefan Savic
    Aleksandar Dragovich
    Robin Knoche
    Kyriakos Papadopoulos
    Fabian Schar
    These Centre Halfs have all been linked with us . They all fit the same template , Tall (6′ 3″ or over) young (24 or under) and available.
    McClaren clearly knows what he’s looking for.

  • 62 Rotonda heights // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    our toon

    remy wants the bright lights of london, i think we are too provincial for anything other than a fleeting stay

  • 63 will die for the toon army // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    This has really dragged on. Will we sign any one? We desperately need a player in those positions Striker and CB. WHAT THE HELL IS CARR and CHARNELY doing?

  • 64 Jail for Ashley // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Despite all these claims of a new era, mid table with little expenditure with the masses thinking we are now ‘competing’ will suit Mashers very nicely. Schteve is on a win/ win, he can’t really do any worse than Pardew without getting us relegated and he can leave in three years time after a ninth, 12th and 11th place finishes with people saying he done well uder Mike Ashleys restraints, we all get labelled deluded for wanting more.

  • 65 kevymartins // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    As for Remy I thought I seen he wants to stay at Chelsea. An Mourinho will know he needs him. He played a big part for Chelsea last season. Everytime they needed somebody he stepped up and done his job. Scored everytime he was called upon. Mourinho ain’t the best manager in the world for nothing an I bet Remy gets more game time than Falcao this season.

  • 66 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    Kevy

    If someone was willing to pay the 15m he’d have gone a longtime ago buddy, if he had the quality you claim he does then he’d already be at a new club. Teams know he can’t play up top by himself so have steered well clear. Even Leicester City don’t think he’s worth 15m

    Why do you think no one has met the asking price? I honestly thought he’d be hot property for a lower prem league team. I didn’t think 17th of July Austin would still be a QPR player. It’s a surprise

  • 67 optimistic prime // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:31 AM

    Kevy

    Which of our players took a wage cut?

    Proof would be nice, but I think you’ll find the club didn’t have relegation in mind when the players signed their original contracts so there where no clauses as reported by many sources.

    Players stayed because we couldn’t flog them, I doubt any took a pay cut.

  • 68 Jail for Ashley // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Rotunda,
    I’m being quietly optimistic as I agree there is little point in bemoaning this ‘new era’ before it has started. All I’m doing is offering another point when I see people saying that now is a new era. SM is certainly making the right noises but then again they all do when starting a new job.

  • 69 toon kk // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Our toon
    We desperately need defenders but also strikers, we have very little to no cutting edge in front of goal. I can’t see the money spent to make enough difference to our basic squad.
    A couple of injuries and we’ll be no better than last season.

  • 70 optimistic prime // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:35 AM

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-target-charlie-austin-only-9674904

    People with a lot more brain power than us rate Austin at £7.5m

  • 71 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:35 AM

    Kevy

    Falcao will get more game time over Remy, Abrahmovic hasn’t just folked out 250k per week to have Falcao play 3rd fiddle and behind Remy. Mourinho will also want to show the world he’s better than Van Gaal as a man manager by getting the best out of Falcao….its an ego thing with him. Remy won’t get a look in

  • 72 Munster Mag // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    Optimistic, qpr are saying they may give him a new contract. That would concern me – suit wife / family in london. I think we can put Mitrovic to bed now. Re Charnley, i trust him more this season. NUFC dont have a whole lot to offer anbitious players who have played in CL or have that ability. For example, if he had wanted to sign some of the nobodies that Sunderland have signed , it wouldnt be hard, but that wont get us anywhere, or appease a very demanding fanbase. Unlike seasons past, I am more confident, and I agree with Rotunda about the new coach and set up. Palace getting Remy would be a sickener, and again, those saying the silver haired one will relegate them are wide of the mark, just as they were last season. Didnt stop people shouting their mouths off though. Im pleased to have Shteve though. But the club has changed. I am sure Pardew wud love to have e mailed us all ( and praised himself about his saignings !! ) but this is clearly a blub policy change. And we wud not have gone for Mitrovic and Gini previously.

  • 73 Munster Mag // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:39 AM

    Jib, didnt I read one onserver say that Matip wasnt good at all, and responsible for loads of errors and goals ??

  • 74 will die for the toon army // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:39 AM

    Our signing look to easy to get there r some we were punching above our heights like Abdennor and Mitrovic.
    1. Matip-last year of his contract we r e only ones linked to him.
    2. Bost – looked an easy one till Liverpool bought that brazillian crazy money.
    3. Austin – No competition we jst have to match the amount.
    4. Rudiger – Wants first team football which we can give them.

  • 75 overtheline // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    In memory Liam and John HWTF

  • 76 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Toon KK

    Cisse scored 11 league goals with 1 knee and under ultra defensive managers in Pardew and Carver. We conceded 60 plus goals though, even if we kept the same strike force amd improved the defence by conceding 15 less goals we’d be in top 8.

    Signing a striker and not improving the defence significantly means we will still battle relegation

  • 77 kevymartins // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:41 AM

    @ourtoon he will go for it no doubt.

    Teams live LFC are raising the price for all teams selling players for stupid amounts and splashing it out for average players. If Austin isn’t worth £15m with 1 year left on his contract then is Danny Ings worth £9m as a free agent?

    Harry Kane has had 1 good PL season and I bet you he worth over 30 easy.

  • 78 kevymartins // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:44 AM

    @ourtoon well abramovic didn’t mind doing it with Torres and plenty other players.

    @OP Another point is he is home grown City has swiched there attention to James McCarthy because he is home grown. Let’s see just how much they spend on him.

  • 79 mickalfas // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:44 AM

    It’s quite normal for players to move on with a year left
    Problem with our players ,noone in their right mind would pay for them
    Unsellable

  • 80 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    OP

    Interesting article mate, I’ll have to dig deeper into how the calculations work

  • 81 Rotonda heights // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:48 AM

    Band B

    Let’s face it, we as humans are all programmed to moan, hold agendas and basically think we are right!

    I freely admit I never took to Pardew as an alleged football manager or person. No honestly! However, SM seems like a guy you could have a pint with.

  • 82 Jail for Ashley // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:48 AM

    Munster,
    You just cannot let it lie about Pardew. If people hadn’t wanted rid of him he would still be here and blub policy would still be the same, we would still be taking the same fcuking criminal stance on cups ffs.

  • 83 will die for the toon army // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Our Toon.

    Good point so u suggest we leave the strikers go and spend e money on defenders keep it tight.

    I think De Jong Aarons and Wijnaldum is an improvement already from last season going forward.

    Our difference has been poor forever

  • 84 Jib // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Munster
    Expatmag said a German friend of his says Matip blows hot and cold , worldbeater to schoolboy errors in the same game , having said that , it can probably be coached out of him.
    A lot of Williamsons faults can be coached out of him as well btw.

  • 85 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Kevy

    You make my points for me, Austin is home grown, Chelsea, Citeh are always looking for HG players so why not Austin? I didn’t get the an answer from you for why no other club has bid 15m for Austin?

    On Torres, he wasn’t bought in to play 3rd fiddle so not sure what point you were trying to make. He failed as did Shevchenko, they were bought in as 1st choice. Falcao on 250k a week hasn’t been bought in to play 3rd fiddle with Remy ahead of him.

    Danny Ings fee was decided by a tribunal as he’s only 22 so again not sure what point you are trying to make. The fact he went for 8 or 9m at 22 years old shows that Austin isn’t worth 15m with 1 year left at 26.

  • 86 toon kk // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:54 AM

    Our toon
    tbh the whole squad badly needs a revamp most area’s are poor. So many fans expect far too much from them. Our squad isn’t as good as boro’s. I don’t think the board realise what the regime is doing tbo.

  • 87 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:55 AM

    Will die for toon

    The players we have already improve us as an attacking threat, the defence however goes backwards every year as they become older and slower. I’d want the defence resolved first as it’s the biggest weakness….Atlas showed just how bad it is

  • 88 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    Toon KK

    Agreed the squad needs a revamp ahaha

  • 89 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:57 AM

    Munster

    Didn’t you hate pardew when he was here? Now you think he’s some kind of 2nd coming!! Pardew will be gone in less than 24 months back to the lower leagues!!

  • 90 kevymartins // Jul 17, 2015 at 10:58 AM

    @ourtoon My points being Toress came in be first choice and ended up bench warming. Did you see Falcao last season? He couldn’t hit a barn door same goes to Danny Ings was piss poor last season so would you rather pay £15m for a player that is only after scoring 18 goals in a sh!t team that is 26 or £10m on a player that bearly scored in a sh!t team that is 22. People say Ings England under 21 an all he bearly played for them Harry Kane kept him on the bench. Nothing special about Ings average player.

    And to the other why has nobody took him yet? As I said just wait someone will take him for £15m and we will be left with a £6-7m bid for caroll typicall nufc.

  • 91 Jail for Ashley // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    Pardew was a fraud, he served us lies and shite football for three years, when he took that eight year deal it was on the full understanding that he’d never win a cup or even reach a semi final, it was on the understanding that the fifth place finish would never be replicated. He took the money and was the public face of Mike Ashleys deception.

  • 92 kevymartins // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:03 AM

    This is exactly why Nufc is falling behind trying to value players. They need to realise it’s a new market an they have to pay lfc’s £30m for Henderson is only starting to look good now. And if we had of just shut up and paid up when it matters ie £15m for Lacazette we would have some top quality at our club.

  • 93 funkness // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:04 AM

    Here’s the (unfortunately not unlikely) horror scenario that could mean another summer wasted in regards to getting a proper striker:

    Mitrovic goes to Porto and Aston Villa pick up Austin the second Liverpool pay that outragious fee for Benteke.

    I am an optimist by nature, but the thought of the above mentioned happening with 3 weeks until the big kick off is giving me a headache …

  • 94 will die for the toon army // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:06 AM

    Our Toon.

    I think we need one CB. I wld risk Durmett in the other position and start from there. If only Mclaren wld try out an attack of:
    ………………Wijnaldum…..Colback
    Sissoko…………..De Jong…………..Perez/ Aarons
    ………………………..Cisse

    And we wat it can yield. I wld nt mind abt a Striker wld wait till January.

  • 95 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    Kevy

    If Someone was willing to take Austin for 15m they’d have done it already, other clubs know he’s not worth it hence no bid for him. Ings is still a prospect….mind you I don’t rate the lad.

    As for torres he was bought to play for the first team, if you asked abramovich now would he pay 50m for torres to be a bench warmer he’d say no. So your point on torres is nonsensical buddy.

    On Falcao, you will see the best of him this season, don’t forget just how good this lad was before picking up that injury which kept him out for 6 to 8 months. Falcao needed games last season and LVG didn’t give him that. Go have a look at Falcao’s record, LVG isn’t the easiest manager to play for.

  • 96 overtheline // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    We still need 2 burly but mobile CBs. If we continue to leak 50+ goals s a season Mitrovic and Austin will make no difference.

  • 97 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    Kevy

    Let’s just agree to disagree on Austin buddy, at the end if the day we both want what’s best for our team. We might not even bring another player in. Healthy debate and apologies if I’ve been a bit to aggressive in some of my responses buddy

  • 98 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    Will die for toon

    I don’t rate dummett but he’s better than willo. We desperately need a CB though….Ideally 2 but hopefully 1 at least

  • 99 kevymartins // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    @Ourtoon do you think Mourinho is stupid? What is he gona do play Remy who he knows is reliable as we seen last season he played a bit part for Chelsea or Falcao a player just brought in who still has to prove himself in the premier league? Mourinho has never won the Champions league with Chelsea and it’s obvious that’s what Falcao is there for not the Preier League. Falcao has always been over rated Monaco sending him out on loan looking £30m for him why you think United passed up on te buy offer think he might be hitting 30. Cavani cheaper and better than Falcao.

  • 100 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:18 AM

    Kevy

    Comments like Falcao has always been overrated shows just how limited your knowledge is….wow!! 139 games 104 goals for Porto, Ath Madrid and Monaco combined before his injury.

    Monaco want rid of Falcao because they are no longer a tax haven within french football, they can’t afford to keep him.

  • 101 kevymartins // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    @ourtoon I understand your opinion on Austin. Basically all my point is that if we sign Austin I don’t care how much we pay or him aslong as we get him. I Like him think he is a wonderful player. So yeah bud agree to disagree.

  • 102 Our Toon // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:21 AM

    Kevy

    Remy was third choice last season behind Drogba as well!! Anyway I’m off but when remy leaves in the next week I’ll remind you of that comment…..is mourinho stupid!!

  • 103 magscar // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:21 AM

    Isn’t the problem as described by McClaren a few weeks ago that in terms of targets we are moving up from our previous “under the radar” ones to more high profile. These players seem to look at CL as a minimum and prefer “big” clubs for their next move or if more mercenary bigger wages to sit on the bench a lot but still with a chance of a barely earned trophy as well.

    If that is the case then negotiations will drag on and we face more competition and we may lose out. As none of us have a clue and nor do the press in the main I honestly can’t see the point of carping at this stage.

    Yes we would all like to have a CB (or 2) in by now but the constant shouting on here for it to happen does nothing to make it so nor increase the posters kudos on here.

    My opinion remains that there HAS been a sea change at the club but how far that takes us in one window I am not sure. McClaren keeps talking about the next 3 so it is unlikely that we will all be totally satisfied – as if we ever would:-) come the end of this one.

    For as long as I can remember no incoming manager has promised jam tomorrow for us ever suffering fans not even KK. Best we can hope for is inarguable and recognisable progress season on season. IMO that isn’t just Wijnaldum and I don’t believe it will.

    Not panicking yet.

  • 104 kevymartins // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:24 AM

    Does anyone know when we’re playing uk time? Is it 12 tomorrow night?

  • 105 King Colback // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:26 AM

    According to talksport Mitrovic is on his way to Newcastle

    http://talksport.com/football/reports-newcastle-close-chelsea-target-aleksandar-mitrovic-150717157718

  • 106 King Colback // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:26 AM

    Kevy its about 4am isn’t it?

  • 107 LooneyToon41 // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    OP,Our Toon. That article looks flawed to me.
    I can’t see any reference to the Opportunity costs of the EPL clubs, either qualifying for the Champions League (= major extra revenue), or getting relegated (=major lower revenue, despite parachute payments).
    While these scenarios exist in Spain,Italy,Germany etc, the ‘different money involved’ for either achievement or failure is far greater in the EPL. Just my take!

    On the subject of Austin and Mitrovic, it seems obvious to me that these players have options, and are clearly keeping them open.
    The ideal of “should have got the deal done by now” is often optimistic, when the player (who has the real power) has numerous possible options in front of him.
    It’s also unrealistic for any fan to state “Well, he obviously doesn’t want to play for us then if he hasn’t signed by now”.
    Having been fortunate to watch football at both the Stadio Olimpico (AS Roma) and the Estadio do Dragao (Porto), these are amazing places to play football… just like St James’.
    I’d love it if we signed one of these players!

  • 108 kevymartins // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    @king colback I thought I seen somewhere it was 4pm american time so that would be around 12 uk time? I’m not sure like.

  • 109 bigmike23 // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:34 AM

    I think your all looking for the wrong thing… We should behoping there is a report that willo or saylor are in talks with other clubs because until they leave we wont sign another cb. Ashley wont allow for them to be sitting on high wages rotting in the reserves

  • 110 WWSBRD // Jul 17, 2015 at 11:35 AM

    LooneyToon
    Whey how man but he said he was a masssiiiiiiivee fan of us though!

    Should of signed when we said hello to ‘im never mind wages! Disrespectful really! I mean we’ve sent him thousands of photos of our bridges on Twitter what more does he want?

    Clearly he’s a lying money grabbing wrong un and his dad well don’t get me started on him! Giving interviews left right and centre slagging us off and forcing the poor lad not to sign for us! Disgrace to the Serbian nation no doubt

  • 111 ronjohno // Jul 17, 2015 at 4:27 PM

    total tedium now.

    should move on and start bolstering our defence – if Williamson stays I will give up.




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