Newcastle’s Mbemba Deal Set – Now They’re Convinced He’s 20


Following up on our report yesterday that Chancel Mbemba looks set to join Newcastle for €10M (£7M) there is more news in the Dutch press today, about how Newcastle had to be convinced of Mbemba’s age,  since he has given at least three different ages in the past.

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Chancel Mbemba – Newcastle were skeptical of his age

It seems that Newcastle were skeptical at first,  but that Anderlecht investigated the matter further, and it seems they have convinced Newcastle that indeed he is 20 years old, and was born in Kinshasa on 8th August 1994 – so he turns 21 next month.

The report is in Holland’s Sportswereld outlet, and this is the translation of their report.

There’s a bit at the beginning we left our reporting his team-mate Aleksandar Mitrovic had arrived in Newcastle for his medical – and then it goes on:

Chancel Mbemba was still in the Astrid Park for the game with Lazio, but also for him there is a deal with Newcastle. (Ed note – he pulled out of that game at his own request)

The English club were already interested since last January and Anderlecht pointed them to his interesting profile.

Initially Newcastle were skeptical by the mystery about his age. Anderlecht concluded that the Congolese is 20 years old, born on 8 August 1994.

There have been three previous birth dates: 1988 (now 26 years), 1990 (now 24) and 1991 (now 23).

Newcastle still want him still and can later sell him for a profit,  and once they were sure that he could get an English work permit,  Anderlecht will get €10M for the transfer.

Is it just me – or does he look older than 20 – maybe he worries a lot?

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And even in Belgium they are talking about Newcastle selling players for a profit later – that’s not good and we hope we can keep the good players we are getting in this summer.

It makes a big difference in the transfer fee if Newcastle sell him in say four years – and he’s either 24 then or 30.

Sportswereld are reporting it’s a done deal for €10M and that Newcastle think he’s 20 years old.

And in reports from Belgium late last week, Aleksandar’s manager Besnik Hasi had this to say about him:

“He has great class, he may not be tall (Ed note – he’s 6ft tall) if you compare him to some defenders, but he is so fast and can jump so high, plus he’s a really good footballer too.”

He would be a another great signing for Newcastle United.

Comments welcome.


28 comments so far

  • La Fée Verte

    Jul 20, 2015 at 8:50 AM

    Comment #1

    Tits Oot!

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jul 20, 2015 at 8:55 AM

    Comment #2

    “can later sell him for a profit”

    Seems like we’re all set then.

    1988-1994 – That’s one hell of a labour, but at least it’s been decided on at last. He’s 20.

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  • Grafton83

    Jul 20, 2015 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #3

    At the African under 23 and U17 qualifiers for the Olympics they did some kind of MRI wrist scan check to show players true age. Half the Nigerian squad were then made ineligable to play. I’m betting this guy is probably older, why would he register a DOB with 1988 knowing it would be to his advantage for him to appear to be younger than he really is. Think we should use the same testing as FIFA did.

    http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/23760844

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  • Jib

    Jul 20, 2015 at 8:59 AM

    Comment #4

    This is a pic of Congolese refugees waiting for entry into Rwanda <a href="press“>
    Any one of those kids in the pic could be Chancel
    5.4 million people were killed in the conflict including his dad
    Is it any wonder there is confusion over his birthdate

    Lilo
    Anderlecht did a bonescan on him and proved his birthdate was 1994

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  • spitfire_

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:03 AM

    Comment #5

    With the mystery about his age, time to bring back to life Obafemi Martins’ song, but a bit changed this time.

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  • Sivarese

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:05 AM

    Comment #6

    Who cares? He was in the Belgian league team of the year so whether he’s 20, 23 or 26 he can’t be any worse than the three numpties we consider first choice CB (excluding Lascelles).

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  • firebug666

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:05 AM

    Comment #7

    Jeff

    Where does it say that Anderlecht did a bone scan on him? I read that they had done their own investigation because of the CNN report, but nothing about a bone scan.

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  • Jamseyd24

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #8

    Ok hopefully this pans out, but still not the answer to our defensive problem. We still need a big commanding CB and really dont know who we could get. Any Ideas????

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  • Spoof

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:10 AM

    Comment #9

    As long as he can defend who cares how old he is

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  • LewSpi v2.0

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #10

    Van Dijk to go with him, please and thanks.

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  • SA Toon

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #11

    Is anyone keeping a lookout for movement on the Mitro medical? If reports are true that he arrived last night, I would expect things to happen this morning. We need this one “over the line”!

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  • Graeme

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #12

    Firebug from previous – I took it that he would fly into Newcastle, have his medical, sign the contract and THEN organise the removal of his kit to Newcastle.
    If the fees are agreed, there is no real reason why he couldnt be in Newcastle today, have his medical and be back home tomorrow to sort the rest out.
    Just trying to avoid yet another Remy scare lol.

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  • Jamseyd24

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #13

    Guys what player do you realistically think we will sell and or loan out???

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #14

    Jib,
    As Firebug said, I saw they did an investigation, but no mention of a bone scan. I’ve not seen anything conclusive.

    Spoof/Sivarese,
    It may well matter, as he doesn’t match the requirements for a work permit for a player from DRC. So, if the FA have doubts over his age then it could make the Work Permit issue more complicated. If they accept he is 20, then he could get through on appeal for potential. If they don’t, it wil be more difficult to get through on appeal.

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  • nut meg

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #15

    Grafton
    In Thailand as in many other countries I would imagine, the poor people don’t always have the money or the time to travel to get their children registered. The office could be miles away and they probably don’t think it’s important enough to leave their rice fields (or whatever) for. That’s what happened to my wife and her brother,they were both 2yrs old before they were registered and the family didn’t have the money,no matter how small they just didn’t have it to spare.

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  • magpiesi

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #16

    Another African I saw in Belgium plays for genk I think surname is Mboji he’s about 6″5 he clears the ball well when heading it he’s a good tackler not to good at playing the ball.

    A bit older than mbemba could get him for about 5m but we would lose them to African cup of nations in January.

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  • firebug666

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #17

    Graeme

    He was in Italy for the Lazio game, so will most likely fly back to Belgium first.

    Or may have to wait for paperwork to come to Italy from the club before being allowed to fly to UK.

    He is not a European citizen so cannot just grab his passport and go (or in his case Passports).

    He will be here by Wednesday according to reports.

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  • mickalfas

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #19

    Van dijk/Abdennour ,Mbemba, Lascelles,Saylor
    Vin dijk first only because he’s European
    Willo and Collo out !

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  • hibbit

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #20

    lets hope the fa except he is 20 or no visa / work permit

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #21

    Jib,
    Mentioned by a fan on reddit, claiming to have Dutch sources that he says wouldn’t make it any clearer. If the club had done a bone scan and it provided a conclusive result their would be an official statement somewhere stating exactly that.

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  • cyprus

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #22

    This age thing sure is an issue with footballers, given their limited active span; two three years cn make a big difference in performance – resale. And these age tests are only estimtes, apparently:

    ‘We can only give the age within a range of two to three years.’

    Anyway, lots of action going on, we should be competitive this year. CL here we come.

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  • Jamseyd24

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #23

    Cyprus,

    I hope you not being serious saying Champions League?

    I will be happy fighting with Southampton/Spurs/Liverpool etc for the 2 Europa places. and would be OK with top 8 next season. Rem its a work in progress.

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  • cyprus

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #24

    A google search says he started his career in 2006. He must have been a very big 11 year old 🙂

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  • LewSpi v2.0

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #25

    Mick

    Agree with that. Van Dijk seems a perfect fit for me.

    1. Dutch (no AFCON)
    2. 24 year old
    3. 6 foot 4
    4. Played in Britain
    5. Only lives 150 miles away
    6. Champions league experience
    7. Scores a LOT of goals 9 in 71 apps for Celtic

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  • AshSays

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #26
  • YohanKebabShop

    Jul 20, 2015 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #27

    Guys, I’m sorry but this guy isn’t 20. There is an official Fifa document date stamped April 2006 and a photo of him looking 18-21 on that. Certainly not 11 as he would have been in April 2006 if he was 20 now

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  • Big Archie

    Jul 20, 2015 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #28

    While his actual age may be of concern to some, what I find more of a problem is the fact that he looks too much like Titus Bramble!

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