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Ashley’s May Be Right – Newcastle Starting To Make Their Own Luck

8:35 am, Thursday, July 23rd, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 45 Comments

One of the statements Mike Ashley made in that Sky Sports interview just before the West Ham game on 24th May that seemed important – was that from now on we were going to make our own luck.

And it’s starting to look like the Billionaire is willing to spend some big money at Newcastle,  to make the squad into one that can truly challenge for a trophy again, since that’s Ashley’s stated aim for the club – to win something

Mike Ashley Sky Sports West Ham Match May 2015

Mike Ashley during the Sky Sports interview

This is one of the questions David Craig asked Mike about if we were relegated would he still invest and the owner’s answer:

Q: Would you invest so much that it comes straight back up from the Championship?

A: Yes – if there is such a thing if you can able to guarantee I would like to say I could guarantee that investment but the results is not something I can guarantee.”

“When I say win something, if we get in a position of Champions League, that equals winning something.”

“The only positive we’ve got is the club is on a very sound financial footing, so we are able to spend and punch above our weight with the financial situation the club finds itself in.”

“My job is to make sure they have the maximum amount of financial resources and it is their job to get the best pound-for-pound value out of those resources.”

“Today we don’t need to be unlucky, not today, from this day forward we will be making our own luck.”

There have been promises before of course, but this is starting to look like the real thing.

Assuming we can sign Chancel Mbemba for £8.5M tomorrow, then Newcastle will have spent around £35M on three top players in Gini Wijnaldum, Aleksandar Mitrovic and Chancel Mbemba, and they will no doubt improve the team.

And maybe three more top players are still to arrive this summer.

Things definitely at least feel as though they are picking up at the club, and Steve McClaren has made a huge difference with his experience and savvy as he tries to pull everybody together at the club – including the fans – since he arrived last month.

His willingness to engage the fans at the last Fans Forum meeting was eye-opening and like a breath of fresh air to frustrated fans.

Newcastle still have it all to do on the field next season of course, and that’s all that really matters, but the mood of Newcastle fans seems to be starting to change for the better.

It even looks like from now on we will be making our own luck.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Financial Fair Play · Financials · Newcastle News · Pre-season · Premier League · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target




45 responses so far ↓

  • 1 AmericanMagpie // Jul 23, 2015 at 8:40 AM

    Ashley in?

  • 2 sparky55 // Jul 23, 2015 at 8:42 AM

    I sincerely hope Pardew is looking on with envy at this current spending spree at newcastle and the realisation Mashley has him sussed a while ago and would never have trusted him with this kind of spend.

    Happy to take on any bets we’ll finish above palace this year and it’s nice to see most toon fans hate Palace nearly as much as the Makems.

    The poor sods have no idea what’s about to happen down there! 🙂

  • 3 tomellifred360 // Jul 23, 2015 at 8:43 AM

    Ashley In/Out
    Delete as appropriate!

  • 4 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 23, 2015 at 8:43 AM

    He Will Rise Again,
    If he can’t start ahead of Matip, then it would tell me that Nastasic hasn’t improved significantly from the error prone youngster City had.

  • 5 nightfa11 // Jul 23, 2015 at 8:43 AM

    He Will Rise Again

    nastasic would be great..tall, young experienced, talented..and non african 🙂 probably best of all suggested defenders…but i think we bid for him last winter and he rejected us?

  • 6 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 23, 2015 at 8:48 AM

    Sparky,
    I don’t hate Palace in the slightest. They are a cracking family club, and have a great ground to play in for atmosphere and the proximity of the stands.

    I hope Pardew can keep their heads above water this year, if they can keep Bolasie and Cabaye fit then they can do okay, particularly if Bamford can transfer his goals to the Prem.

  • 7 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 23, 2015 at 8:51 AM

    What input do you think McClaren has had on potential incoming transfers? Wijnaldum was a long term target, according to Mbemba’s agent we have been watching him and Mitrovic for the best part of a year.

    Most of our other alleged targets are players we have been linked with for a year or more.

  • 8 AmericanMagpie // Jul 23, 2015 at 8:53 AM

    But what about the ‘surprises’ McClaren speaks of, Lilongwe?

  • 9 Slank // Jul 23, 2015 at 8:54 AM

    Lil @ 31

    Good point about the ACON not being until 2017 which would buy us time by then Lascelles, Good or Satka would have matured into centre backs or been discarded. Also Dummitt may have become a permanent centre back or not. Also Williamson and Saylor would possibly be too old by 2017.

    I think ‘He Will Rise Again ‘ @ 28 has a good point.

    I would be astonished if McClaren consents to the club buying another international African centre defender knowing what the consequences could be in the middle of the season.

  • 10 He Will Rise Again // Jul 23, 2015 at 8:54 AM

    Lilongwe

    I think you’re thinking of Safic. He was the error prone one who City swapped with Nastasic.

    It was Pelligrini who chose experience over youth. Nastasic was sold and they brought in Mangala.

    He has been injured for Schalke and that has hampered his ability to challenge Matip and Howdes.

    But come on man, we’re talking about Matip and Howdes. Not many 22 year old CB’s in world football could get into a team with them in it.

    I think it could be him and I for one would welcome it.

    And Kingsley Colman as well. Him and Aaron’s would annihilate average full backs week in, week out.

  • 11 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 23, 2015 at 8:55 AM

    Also, anyone think that Sofiane Feghouli could be one of the under the radar players. We have been linked with him in the past, is the right age for us at 25, at Valencia, so Cathro will know him well. Creative attacking midfielder who can play through the middle or wide right.

    Only has 1 year left on his contract at Valencia, talks began on a new deal back in May, but he still hasn’t put pen to paper…

  • 12 Bobbybee // Jul 23, 2015 at 8:56 AM

    Right, here’s a scenario. Ashley pumps loadsa money in over the next two windows after this one and we win a cup and are fighting for a CL spot. Do we still want him out? I feel strange saying that after all the nasty things I’ve said about him, but let’s be honest, winning stuff would be nice and if it’s with his financial backing, would we really want him to sell up to an unknown? What a dilemma.

  • 13 Tsunki // Jul 23, 2015 at 8:58 AM

    Ashley Out!

  • 14 Altamullan // Jul 23, 2015 at 8:59 AM

    Whilst I still can’t help coming over all Neanderthal about the Makems ( you can take the lad out of But you can’t take FTT out of the lad) I personally don’t hate Palace or any team. I’m also not that fussed about Narcissus, sorry Pards. Everybody else can get on and do their thing, have good season. I personally really need to feel connected to my team again, and to look forward to games. Know what? I do and I am. Coming on here helps, but mainly it’s the obvious: a professional set-up at coach/manager level, and sensible investment.

  • 15 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 23, 2015 at 8:59 AM

    He Will Rise Again,
    Yeah, you could be right on Savic.

    However Matip is poor. He lacks concentration and positional sense. I’d be very disappointed if he came here.

    Anyway, Nastasic only signed for them this summer officially. He certainly wouldn’t be available to buy.

  • 16 Slank // Jul 23, 2015 at 8:59 AM

    Lil @ 7

    I would imagine that the club would have said to McClaren when appointed that he will have a major input to future transfers but not those currently earmarked by Carr unless he has a very serious objection.

    I would imagine he has the greater influence on who will be sold.

  • 17 Offkey // Jul 23, 2015 at 8:59 AM

    Lilo – McClaren himself said there was a plan in place before he came to the club and since then that plan has been slightly amended but not greatly. On top of that you have Carver talking about the plan and the players ‘we will not believe’ this summer.

    They were always going to spend this summer due to the amount of contracted players nearly out of contract……but this was made more necessary with the squads performance last year…….think it may have encouraged them to spend a tad more and I do think McClaren, due to his relationship with Carr will have pushed some players forward and probably made the list somewhere.

  • 18 Altamullan // Jul 23, 2015 at 8:59 AM

    FTT = favoured Tyneside township

  • 19 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:00 AM

    American,
    I’d guess Feghouli would fit in that surprise bracket. Other than that, I’d hope it is a dominant leader at the back with Premiership experience.

  • 20 He Will Rise Again // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:00 AM

    Bobby bee

    I think we’d all want him to stay even if it makes us look fickle to other fans.

    It’s never been personal other than the times he made it personal.

    The thing we’ve always asked for is a team that tries not a team that wins.

    Even if we invested year on year with a look to improving, finished top 10 in the next few seasons and played good football most people would forgive him, even if we didn’t win anything.

    He still needs to get rid of wonga and pay NUFC for advertising but I’d forget those things this season for a pair of cb’s and some more decent players,

  • 21 2_goal_tino // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:02 AM

    The bundesliga defender the chronicle is talking about… got to be Ricardo Rodriquez, we are going to steal him from R Madrid and Man U by offering 25 million for a defender 😉

    I’m only jesting but what a signing that would be!!! For me, if it is going to be a big signing, the main candidates are Ruttiger, Toprak and Nastasic – the majority of other good defenders in the Bundesliga are either too old (Naldo) or wouldn’t join us ever.

  • 22 John Tudor // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:03 AM

    bjork with the squiggles

  • 23 Slank // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:03 AM

    Bobbybee @ 12

    Ashley can only pump money into the club if he went back on his view that the club should be self financing which it currently is and also within the limits imposed by the European Fair Play Rules that his finance boys can come up with.

  • 24 He Will Rise Again // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:03 AM

    Lilon

    It is unlikely but it happens a lot in Europe where clubs activate a purchase agreement from a loan in order to have control over the transfer fee of a player.

    If for example Schalke paid £8 million and sold him for £10 they’ve made £2 million for no work really.

  • 25 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:05 AM

    BobbyBee,
    If Ashley proved over time that he was now putting the club first, and consistently drove it forward I think all would come round to him. The fact is there are 8 years of distrust to repair, and it will take far more than one summer window for that too happen. I’ve stated that until I see us make continuous progress, and see that we don’t self inflict damage upon our season in a January window at least twice I will remain cautious.

    I’ve always been happy to give people a chance but they have to prove they have changed long term, and it isn’t a flash in the pan. Trust is earned, and not given freely.

    Everyone has the clubs best interests at heart. People go about it in different ways, and have different views, but there is one common goal. A club that we can be proud of. If it is a club we can be proud of AND we are picking up trophies, even better.

  • 26 Bobbybee // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:06 AM

    Altamullen, funny old game football. Love and hate all mixed together as only football can. Me, I can’t wait for the season to begin, I’m genuinely excited like I used to get in the seventies when I was just a lad (cue the hovis advert music). We’ll be no pushover this season and we need to get SJP back to the fortress it once was. Whilst Ashley is in a bridge building mood, he needs to open up a singing section again.

  • 27 2_goal_tino // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:08 AM

    I would be genuinely amazed if we don’t have stronger interest in Douglas this window… we’ve tracked him for years now and McClaren adored him at Twente and tried to sign him when he was at Wolfsburg.

  • 28 Tsunki // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:08 AM

    If Ashley has had an epiphany and puts the investment into winning a cup, and at the same time wins the fans over with his engagement, how is it fickle of us to be turned around into dropping the Ashley Out agenda? Surely that would be one of two desirable results? Either he leaves to be replaced by a more enthusiastic and forward thinking owner, or he stays and gets his act together. If the latter turns out to be the case it’s a victory for all concerned, and a vindication of the process that got it there.

  • 29 Offkey // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:09 AM

    I couldn’t care less about the SD advertising or MA if we were attempting to be successful and were making good money. I mean this even on a self financing level. We sold Cole to get Ferdinand and Gillespie, its what happens.

    However, it is about building a side consistently over windows, having players for a few seasons selling at top whack and bringing in quality players to replace (before they are sold) so they will hit the ground running. I will never want MA here, at least thats how I feel at this point……but he could be ignored in the right circumstances.

  • 30 maskedman // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:09 AM

    Robin Knoche?

  • 31 sparky55 // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:10 AM

    I’m a bit more basic than some of you lads…I hate Pardew with a passion and anything he touches. He’s a fake and deserves to be outed at every opportunity.

    Once Palace Sack him I’ll always be pleased to see them do well.

  • 32 Yellow Belly // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:11 AM

    I would not be surprised if the surprise was due to the influence of Cathro and the surprise comes from Valencia and the player would want to come here because of Cathro.
    Feghouli only has a year left on his contract, Otamendi as CB and Gaya as LB would be a nice surprise.
    If it was Otamendi he would settle quickly because of Colo but anyone else they would maybe do a double swoop again to help settle the players quickly as they have just done.

  • 33 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:12 AM

    He Will Rise Again,
    I’m not sure it happens a lot. Maybe a handful of cases. It won’t be happening in this case though.

    Just checked and he played 90 minutes in 16 out of 17 games after arriving at the club. No way is he available to move again.

  • 34 DicBDownUnder // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:12 AM

    In regards to being surprised by the next signing…

    http://www.givemesport.com/600007-cristiano-ronaldo-looks-unimpressed-after-rafael-benitez-touches-him?autoplay=on&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Organic-Social&utm_campaign=Tribute-Pages-laika-v2

    Its a done deal with those eyebrow movements.
    Announced next week I heard.

    On a serious note, I love the optimism, but does anyone else feel the surprise may be of the bad kind? And not good… AKA, signing sol campbell to fix our defensive woes…or signing Joe Kinnear as the new MD…?

    Just a though…

  • 35 Altamullan // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:13 AM

    Personally, I can’t see myself ever feeling comfortable with Ashley. I accept, I don’t know him, but what I infer (SD zero hours; SJP name change; Badge of Shame sponsorship) leads me to conclude he is a very good business man, with a particular business model for the club, who has very poor values, and surrounds himself with the same. Hope I am wrong about the latter, that he is misrepresented in the press, is really lovely etc etc. Just don’t think I am. I’d rather have someone, doesn’t have to be a Geordie, who is more in the mid range on all of the above. Someone I think loves the club and is a safe pair of hands for all it means to people.

  • 36 firebug666 // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:17 AM

    He Will Rise Again

    I have to say I will never forgive him or forget some of the things that have been said.

    This is the first time he has looked like changing things at Newcastle for the better, and has rightly got the fans excited myself included.

    But there is always that underlying currant that could pull us back down, sales in January without replacement will be one to watch out for.

    Certain things stick in a man’s memory, for example Llambias saying “They don’t know how nasty we can be”; Charnley saying “he will have to accept player sales without replacement”; or Ashley himself saying, ” Newcastle United and Rangers are beneficial to Sports Direct”.

    He is not spending all this money for the fans, or the team he is spending because he has to, he has to build a team that can perform on the pitch, (good for the fans) and keep us in the league, but his single minded purpose is to keep Newcastle feeding his SD tat shop.

    It’s not blind hatred of Ashley, it’s cold and calculated to the exact extent of his treatment to Newcastle United and it’s fans.

  • 37 Bobbybee // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:19 AM

    Lil, completely agree with the trust thing, it’s going to take time, but if he can stick to his word about winning something, maybe better the devil you know. Got to say, he’s completely shocked me with his change of tack. He still needs to converse with us more imo, which isn’t asking too much. Personally I’ve never been one for the politics of it all, so I’m willing to forgive and forget IF – and it is still a big if – he continues in this vein. Let’s face it, it would be somewhat ironic if his stewardship was the one to give us a trophy, where others have failed. Far too early to judge yet, but those green sprouts of fresh growth are starting to peep up out of the soil

  • 38 LewSpi v2.0 // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:20 AM

    Regarding ‘surprise signing’ Ryder speaks of.

    We were talking last week about the amount of non-EU players the team currently (potentially) has:

    Mitrovic
    Coloccini
    Good
    Tiote
    Cisse
    Abeid
    Mbemba*

    Before we even sign anymore non-EUs you’d think one or two will be on their way out as I’m sure you’re only allowed 4 or 5?

    Just a note for people who are trying to guess who the unnamed players are that’s all…

    Noticed He Will Rise mentioned Nastasic and obviously he’s Serb so that would be another to the list. I’m fairly sure any further signings would be European for this point alone.

  • 39 WLtoon // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:22 AM

    Im fairly optimistic for next season for the first time in a few yrs.
    Just goes to show that all it takes is investment to keep most of us happy.

  • 40 Jib // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:24 AM

    FTT
    Low Fell methinks

  • 41 stuart no9 // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:25 AM

    i dont quite get this hatred towards us from palace fans . this has come out of the blue really . Juat coz we showed Pardew what we thought of him as manager , all of a sudden all of south london has this ‘chip’ on there shoulder and are desperate to teach us a lesson . well, come on then you gobby lot, have a go now . heres hoping 6 points against the mackems and 6 against palace , with palace finishing bottom 3 would be a great season for me , for the first time in years im looking forward to the new season and who knows , i may start looking at a season ticket.

  • 42 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:25 AM

    Bobbybee,
    I think it is far too early to even state confidently that we have changed tack. The more adventurous spend could just as easily be to do with greater potential profits if they do well.

    I’m pleased we are spending, and bringing in decent players, but it had to be done. The acid test will be if we have a good season, and he continues to build the club in a similar vein, or rests on his laurels.

    A long way to go, and we should enjoy it while it lasts, but nothing so far demonstrates a complete change in his plans. Cautious optimism is the phrase used on here a lot now, and I think that is all we have until much further down the line.

  • 43 lesh // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:27 AM

    Lil

    Something tells me that McClaren’s held more sway at the Club than some may think.

    I’d suggest that he may well have had input into targets and priorities. I’m not for a moment suggesting that he has the total control that some managers hold but may well have been able to influence decisions. It’s said that Carr used McClaren as part of his scouting network and thus one’d expect there to be a good rapport between them.

    However, the proof of the pudding etc so no matter who we buy, the key to success is how McClaren uses the players.

    It’s early days so we have no choice but to trust those involved in recruitment and hope that McClaren can translate investment into success.

  • 44 sparky55 // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:27 AM

    Stuart…I’m with you brother! 🙂

  • 45 Bobbybee // Jul 23, 2015 at 9:32 AM

    That’s the trouble with rich gits, we can’t figure them out. When he first turned up, I thought he was going to be a good owner – mixing with fans, trying to be one of the lads etc – but he quickly changed into a monster. And therein lies the problem – the next guy might be even worse, as hard as that is to believe. Pompey being a fine example. Think I’ll take it one step at a time and wait and see. All i really care about is the football tbh, owners come and go. This season is the most promising for years and revenge on those divvies down the road will be savoured to the max. 🙂




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