John Carver – I’m A Winner – Not A Quitter


We were kind of hoping that after some of the nonsensical statements John Carver made this year while the interim head coach at Newcastle, he would lie low and maybe the pay-off from Newcastle came with an agreement not to talk about what happened last season – it was so painful.

steve stone and john carver

Steve Stone and John Carver at Bramall Lane on Sunday

But alas, that will not happen and Carver has been interviewed tonight in the local press, and it seems he hasn’t learned too much from managing 20 games at Newcastle, losing 13 of the them and winning only 3, and losing eight on the trot.

Here’s John’s record at Newcastle.

CompetitionPlayedWonDrawnLostGFGAGDPoints
League1934121835-1713
FA Cup100101-1
Overall2034131836-1813

But in the interview tonight he says he’s a winner.

This is what John has said:

“I’ve got a point to prove, to myself and to the fans of Newcastle.” “Not all of them, because the majority have been very, very good, but to the people who were critical.”

“I’m a winner – I’m not a quitter. Why can’t, in the future, I go away, be successful and return to Newcastle as manager under different circumstances?”

“I’ve been back to the football club a few times, and it would be a great story to do so again.”

John watched Newcastle’s 2-2 draw against Sheffield United yesterday along with Steve Stone – his assistant last season.

Maybe we are wrong but John seems to be the perfect pollyanna – a person who thinks good things will always happen and finds something good in everything.

It’s good to be positive, but with that you also have to be realistic and down to earth,  and fully grounded in reality.

The big potential positive for John is that if he goes carefully though what happened in the five moths in charge at Newcastle and is willing to learn by his mistakes – he could become a much better coach from the experience.

But realistically, even if he does that, his chances of becoming Newcastle manager in the future have to be very low.

But John doesn’t think so – that’s obvious.

Comments welcome.



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97 comments so far

  • Tsunki

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:26 PM

    Comment #1

    Ashley Out!

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  • Alternative Headline

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:26 PM

    Comment #2

    not exactly queuing up are they John ?

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  • Tsunki

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:27 PM

    Comment #3

    John I don’t think it was a minority thing you know.

    Give it up, you tanked.

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  • Belfast

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:28 PM

    Comment #4

    Tsunki out

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  • OneAlanShearer

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:29 PM

    Comment #5

    I always felt he was on a hiding to nothing taking the job and felt sorry for him even if he wasn’t very good but no I’m just embarrassed for him. He should have just kept his mouth shut. Not helping himself. He’s not a manager. A number 2 is as far as he should go.

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  • Tsunki

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:30 PM

    Comment #6

    He he john you use that word ‘ winner’ very unwisely. And you’re not a quitter, you’re a sack-ee.

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  • Tsunki

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:30 PM

    Comment #7

    Belfast Along!

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  • Belfast

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:31 PM

    Comment #8

    Newport County next manager Alternative headline.

    By the time he works his way back we’ll all be deed. (fingers crossed)

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  • Tsunki

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:33 PM

    Comment #9

    OneAlan. The money must have been a burden.

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  • Belfast

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:34 PM

    Comment #10

    His new club should probably ban him from speaking to the media.

    That could work

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  • will die for the toon army

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:35 PM

    Comment #11

    No please

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  • Tsunki

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:36 PM

    Comment #12

    John looks like he’s at the dogs checking out how his whippets are running.

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  • West Lancs Geordie

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:36 PM

    Comment #13

    He’s a winner & not a quitter apparently & allegedly The best coach in the country. So why is he still to of work then?

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  • Belfast

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    Comment #14

    He’s not Skunki. It’s his birthday party and only Steve Stone turned up.

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  • West Lancs Geordie

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:41 PM

    Comment #15

    Really pleased Raylor has go fixed up – he’ll do a 110% job for Bruce at Hull. ‘d have given both him & Gutierez another 12 month contract each there’re far better (for effort & commitment)than some of the dross we seem to be clinging on to

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  • Tsunki

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:42 PM

    Comment #16

    …and he wasn’t invited.

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  • Bri

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:42 PM

    Comment #17

    Nice suntans or do they both need a wash.

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  • Barton

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:44 PM

    Comment #18

    If ppl actually took the time to read the full piece in the Telegraph and not jst quotes from chronicle its a decent read,i thought was more intresting that he went and saw a shrink after the leicester game 2 or 3 times.

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:47 PM

    Comment #19

    Is that winner or weiner john?

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  • Thump

    Jul 27, 2015 at 11:57 PM

    Comment #20

    In all fairness, since becoming unemployed Carver and Stone have been hammering FM.

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  • Thump

    Jul 28, 2015 at 12:00 AM

    Comment #21

    @Barton: Joking aside, you’re absoltuely right, it is interesting and it further proves to me that Carver was never cut out to be a premier league manager. He, quite simply, has not got what it takes.

    For those interested.

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  • Bobbybee

    Jul 28, 2015 at 12:02 AM

    Comment #22

    Barton, I’m still smiling at his assertion that ‘you have to be mad not to see a psychologist…’ what a star!

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  • Alternative Headline

    Jul 28, 2015 at 12:06 AM

    Comment #23

    @Belfast – really ? wow

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  • Crow59

    Jul 28, 2015 at 12:33 AM

    Comment #24

    Haha Belfast, I feel your pain. My I suggest a shrink?? Seems to be all the rage these days 🙂

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  • Alternative Headline

    Jul 28, 2015 at 12:53 AM

    Comment #25

    read the article Thump, feel sorry for the guy but he’s deluded. And an even bigger prat than I thought after his admission of the Williamson incident. And as for the journalists quote about “his successful period as manager of FC??Toronto”, well I wouldn’t call a win rate of 30% great. I wish him all the best but he if he loves coaching he needs to drop a few divisions & keep up the therapy

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  • Thump

    Jul 28, 2015 at 1:02 AM

    Comment #26

    @Alternative Headline: Completely agreed. I really would love to see him succeed, but like I said, he just doesn’t have the makeup to be a success — at least at this level, anyway.

    That said, after some of his talk about people in lifts, and cleaners coming to have a casual chat with him, I’m taking his words with a pinch of salt. The bloke needs a lot more than a couple of sessions (with a psychologist, not in the Bigg Market!)

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  • Thump

    Jul 28, 2015 at 1:04 AM

    Comment #27

    Knew there was something I forgot to say: “But Mike was fine and after the two-match suspension, he actually played well.”

    Most quotable moment from Carver. “Couldn’t believe it, the lad had a game in him!”

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  • Crow59

    Jul 28, 2015 at 1:15 AM

    Comment #28

    Hopefully next season we won’t find out if mike Williamson has a game in him, I’d prefer to play mike ashley at the back. Fat ash might not be the quickest but at least he has a brain.

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  • Alternative Headline

    Jul 28, 2015 at 1:21 AM

    Comment #29

    ..which sadly alludes to fact that Carver still believes that it was the right thing to do. To me he doesn’t sound like he’s learned much at all from what must have been an awful experience, but one in which I think most people would have learned a lot. His shrink must be raking it in.

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  • lochinvar

    Jul 28, 2015 at 1:46 AM

    Comment #30

    And now back to the main feature after that interruption:
    From the BBC site this morning, various possible movers:

    Tottenham will make a £15m bid for West Brom striker Saido Berahino, 21, this week and the White Hart Lane club are also targeting a move for 26-year-old Crystal Palace winger Yannick Bolasie. (London Evening Standard)
    Newcastle do not want to pay QPR’s £15m asking price for striker Charlie Austin but the Magpies will bid £13.25m for the 26-year-old. (Daily Express)

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  • lochinvar

    Jul 28, 2015 at 1:50 AM

    Comment #31

    Anyone fancy a trip to Hull,
    ” Ryan Taylor scores your goals “

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  • expatmag

    Jul 28, 2015 at 2:56 AM

    Comment #32

    I did feel sorry for him for a time. He had to deal with a lot of issues which he was clearly unqualified to do. I did think he should resign for his own health because the comments he was coming out with were becoming more and more confusing and controversial.

    He clearly loves the club and we were his dream job but unfortunately, he wasnt good enough to take his opportunity.

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  • Dingo†®

    Jul 28, 2015 at 2:59 AM

    Comment #33

    Whilst I am glad to see the back of Alan Pardew, Crystal Palace have bought some good players… will be interesting to see when and how they get Pardewed.

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  • King Colback

    Jul 28, 2015 at 3:09 AM

    Comment #34

    We are 6/1 to sign Matt Phillips, maybe a double swoop with Charlie Austin?
    Saw this on twitter: http://wp.me/p6rKmN-5k
    Remember him when he played here in Blackpool he was awesome

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  • The overrated Frenchman

    Jul 28, 2015 at 5:07 AM

    Comment #35

    To be fair, the blame for the Carver debacle really lies with Charnley doesn’t it? As always, with him, the cheap option was taken to engratiate himself with the fat pig. Carver wasn’t going to refuse the job, was he? As poor as he was, you would have to say he did have the team’s best interests at heart as well as his own. As for Charnley, his only interest is in making himself look good to Ashley. Charnley out.

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  • will die for the toon army

    Jul 28, 2015 at 5:42 AM

    Comment #36

    Good morning,
    The topic this morning is Charli Austin it looks like he will b a NUFC player. That brings it to mind that we will b playing two on top if we buy Austin. Coz if its Ian Cathro setting up e attack then diamond formation is e mostly used system in Spain. But Austin Mitrovic are not tap in kings mainly better with their heads so dont know wat they r thinking. But diamond formation is wat I wld go for if I was Mcclaren and I wtd two on top with players we have.
    Things can be changed around with having Aarons or Obertan (if he stays) or Perez on the wings.

    De Jong, Cabella can behind the two forwards Colback, Wijnaldum and Sissoko can be box to box midfielders. Anita Abeid and Tiote can be defensive CMs. We have do many good midfielders for this to work out.

    A CB is a must coz Colo wont b fit all the time we have to careful with him 33yrs is a big no. So get a young hard working CB Abdennour Matip Rudiger Shawcross. Any can do.

    Mcclaren diamond formation is the way to go with midfilders and Forwards we will have. If Austin is coming and Cisse has to stay for this to work.

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jul 28, 2015 at 5:53 AM

    Comment #37

    WDFTA
    I hope we do sign Austin and I do hope we play 2 up top, the one striker lineup looks hopeless

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jul 28, 2015 at 5:53 AM

    Comment #38

    Btw morning all, would love to be asleep but woke in agony 🙁

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  • will die for the toon army

    Jul 28, 2015 at 5:54 AM

    Comment #39

    This is the team I wld play if every one is on form and fit to play:
    …………………Krul
    Jannmatt…….Mbemba……Colo…….Haidara
    ………………………….Tiote
    ………….Sissoko……………….Wijnaldum
    ………………………De Jong
    ………..Austin……………………Mitrovic
    Subs:
    Darlow, Durmett, Colback, Cabella, Perez, Aaron, Cisse.
    if that is not a Top 6 Team then what is it. Any one off the bench can make an impact.

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  • will die for the toon army

    Jul 28, 2015 at 5:56 AM

    Comment #40

    Sorry TFL every thing will b ok soon. We r praying for quick recovery

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