Steve McClaren – Coloccini Is One Of Our Best Players


There is a lot of talk these days about whether the current Newcastle captain Fabricio Coloccini will see out the final year of his contract at Newcastle, and even if newcastle want to keep him at the club, after his poor form in the second half of last season.

It seems that will depend on Steve McClaren’s view of Coloccini and also what the player himself wants to do – as the Argentine came in for some criticism last season during that terrible eight game losing streak and one point in 10 games.

fab coloccini looking glum

Cheer up Colo – it may never happen

Fabricio wasn’t even in the squad for yesterday’s game but it looks like he’s still not fit with that Achilles problem, and he still hasn’t played in pre-season.

It’s very unlikely he will play in the opening game against Southampton in just less than two weeks time.

After the 2-2 draw at Bramall Lane yesterday Steve McClaren was asked about the Argentine and this is what he said:

“So far as I am concerned, I want him out on the pitch in a Newcastle shirt playing for the team, and I’m confident he will be with us at the start of the season.”

“I have been delighted with his attitude and the way he is around the place. I have looked at him in training and, certainly, he’s one of our best players.”

“So far as I am concerned, I want him out on the pitch in a Newcastle shirt playing for the team, and I’m confident he will be with us at the start of the season.”

“All that’s great – but we need him on the field. I’ve come in and heard all the talk about him, but he has got a future here.”

We gave a game at York City on Wednesday night and then a big game at home to Borussia Mönchengladbach on Saturday afternoon, and hopefully we’ll see Fabricio in action in those two games.

We would keep both Papiss Cisse and Coloccini on board for next season because they will are experienced  Premier League players, and that’s important when we have new players trying to adjust to the demands of the Premier League.

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277 comments so far

  • TheToonKing

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #1

    I’m fine with Colo & Mbemba as central defenders. An experienced smart player next to a young physical powerhouse.

    But I don’t want to see Williamson ever again, meaning we only have Tayls as a decent back-up, so we need another CB either way.

    Not convinced about Haidara either starting at LB.

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  • firebug666

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #2

    “All that’s great – but we need him on the field. I’ve come in and heard all the talk about him, but he has got a future here.”

    Mmmm he has a year left Steve and will be 34, I don’t think he has a future here, Let’s see how he gets on with a decent CB beside him, and then bring in a new one in January to replace Collo.

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  • pawl250

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #3

    Few comments I would like to add….

    1. Jail for Ashley, his comment on Obertan over the weekend was a classic. Analogy could not have been more accurate. What has happened to me, agreeing TWICE within a few days with JFA says, as Kamara would say “UNBELIEVABLE JEFF!”

    2. Our squad is actually big enough, compared to last season we actually have a strong squad. I know its a Pardew classic, but literally Aarons and De Jong will be like new signings this year. We certainly have enough back up in all positions now, and this is no Football Manager! You cannot have quality sitting on a bench for a team like Newcastle, maybe Man Utd, or Barcelona yes, but Newcastle its simply not possible.

    3. Chill out about yesterdays game. Its a friendly, it was not our strongest team and truth be told you would not want you players going all out in a pre season match risking injury in the process. This is about fitness. Chelsea lost a pre season match just before the weekend, does that mean they are not PL winner contenders or CL contenders? I mean seriously some people need to relax. Ok its Sheffield, but Pre Season its not about winning. Its about fitness and allowing SM to find what he believes to be his strongest 11.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #4

    So Pre Season so far regarding goals.

    Scored 8
    Conceded 9

    If that’s the squad we are going to use with no extra signings then we are either going to win games 2-1, 3-2, 4-3, or even 5-4 or lose 2-1, 3-2, 4-3, 5-4.

    Get your high blood pressure tablets ready folks, it’s going to be a very long season.

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  • MidlandsMag

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #5

    Is McClaren hanging on to Coloccini to encourage that Argentinian player we are interested in (along with the usual others)?

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #6

    TheToonKing…the problem is neither Colo, Willo or Saylor can give you 30 games a season.

    …and non of them are any good at playing a high line or playing out of defense.

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  • Slank

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #7

    Someone said earlier that Colo and Mbemba together would probably (fingers crossed) make a good pairing as Colo can read the game but is slowing up whereas Mbemba is fast, mobile and physically strong.

    The other aspect is protection from the midfield.

    It would be interesting to know whether there is any correlation between our losing streak and the absence of Tiote due to injury.

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  • Slank

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #8

    MidlandsMag

    Who is the Argentinian player we are interested ?

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #9

    Slank…Tiote was the main reason why the season before last fell apart!

    …he cannot safeguard the defense to safe his life!

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  • welshgeordie9

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #10

    pawl250

    What happens when players like De Jong and Aarons get injured, we don’t know how long they are going to last this seson, it’s alright having key players but you have got to replace key players with other key players.

    Cisse and mitrovic who have we got only perez
    Arron’s and Dejong who have we got
    Janmaat who have we got
    Cabella and Gini who have we got

    That’s just a couple of examples.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #11

    MidlandsMag…I think McC is hanging on to Colo because we are getting no one else…

    Mbembe is coming it seems, but he was badly needed anyway. We still need a top CB, which we won’t be getting.

    I think who else called Mbembe to be out last purple signing was/is right!

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  • Graeme

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #12

    Jesper – Sick-note Saylor will give you 10 – 12 games per YEAR not per season. We have only 2 CB’s to start the season – Collo, who hasn’t played a game since the end of the last season and a new boy who has yet to play or train with us, who wont get his application for a work permit approved before Thursday – then it has to be processed by Government.

    Other than that – we are in exactly the same position as we were under Carver – and that is a frightening thought!!!

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  • MidlandsMag

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #13

    Slank @ 8

    Federico Mancuello – his name keeps cropping up. Didn’t take much notice at first (as we are linked with loads of players) but just makes me wonder now.

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  • Liono

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #14

    @welshgeordie9
    Fair point but we aren’t chelsea – they can attract quality players who are prepared to be backup because a) they will get pitch time in all the cups/champions league games, and b) the prestige of playing for chelsea even as backup.

    Yeah injuries are going to ruin any team in our positon, thats just the way it goes.

    SMac will just have to show his tactical ability in deploying what he has in a winning system playing to the strengths of the players he has available.

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  • firebug666

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #15

    Slank

    We have some good DM in this squad if they are played in the right way and system.

    We need one who will (not stay back) but hang back in the midfield ready to mop up any break away by the opposition before the even see the whites of the CB’s eyes.

    Titote use to do that for us, but not sure what happened with him, (Pardewed maybe). Colback or Anita could do that now, patrolling just ahead of the CB’s.

    Mbemba does like to get forward, so it would need Anita maybe to drop in that space as cover.

    Coloccini may show some better performances with a decent CB he can rely on and not have to cover so much ground across the back.

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  • Ron Knee

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #16

    Graeme – previous thread
    Spot on.

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  • hibbit

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #17

    pawl total disagree we have no cover at full back R or L and dont say biggi and fergi …..our CB are just not good enough taylor colo willo were a joke last season 1 new cb pending 1 championship play never played in the prem and dummet and you think thats good enough

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  • pawl250

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #18

    Firebug

    I think SM is saying he isn’t leaving this year with all the speculation, not that CP even want him given Dann and Hangeland are their two CB’s. As for his age, Colo is 33, going 34 mid season. John Terry is 1 year older (being 33 start of last season and 34 mid last season, 35 mid this season) and had 1 year left on is contract at the start of last season, and it was renewed. He was also the best defender in the league.

    If Colo has a great season would you not want to keep him? I think he is hindered with a poor partner *cough* Williamson *cough* in CB position. Really the only time he has looked absolutely solid was when he had a string of games with STaylor. And in doing so going in PL team of the year.

    I think Colo will be fine with abit of pace beside him. And if he has a good season I do not care if he is 34 next year I would hope he stays!

    I think he will be fine though. My only change would be him being captain. I do not think he drives the team hard enough, I think Siem would be the perfect candidate this year.

    Krul
    Janmaat – Mbemba – Coloccini – Haidara
    Wijnaldum – Tiote
    Sissoko – De Jong – Aarons
    Mitrovic

    Darlow
    STaylor
    Dummett
    Colback
    Cabella
    Perez
    Cisse

    Its a strong team. Much stronger than last season. Our season really does depend on injuries.

    Last season, Haidara was out, STaylor was out, Colo was out, Krul was out, Tiote was out, De Jong was out, Aarons was out.

    Mitrovic, Mbemba and Wijnaldum were not here. Thats pretty much our starting 11!

    Only Janmaat and Sissoko were ever present in our team.

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  • Slank

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #19

    Jesper

    ‘..Tiote was the main reason why the season before last fell apart!..’

    Was that because he wasn’t playing or he was playing ?

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  • hibbit

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #20

    janmaat and sissoko ever present i don’t think so

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  • Slank

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #21

    MidlandsMag

    Cheers. Haven’t heard of him before but Argentinian defenders tend to be quite solid.

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  • pawl250

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #22

    Hibbit

    Was it not you saying we are fine at L/R back compared to CB. As for CB we are strong enough, much stronger than last season with the addition and you cannot judge Lascelles.

    Your argument about a Championship player is ridiclous because ALOT of players come from lower leagues and come good in the PL.

    Mbemba addition is a solid one, Colo has always been fine but I think he has been hindered by Williamson.

    Williamson is a liability but should be 4th, 5th back up.

    As for left back I think alot of PL teams would not mind Dummett and Haidara being the cover in that position.

    Right back is an issue, but if push comes to shove, Mbemba, Anita could cover, albeit I would prefer not too. As stated certainly would be my priority if I had to add one more it would be a young RB with potential who is willing to wait for game time. Lets be honest Janmaat is a great RB and anyone brought in would be coming knowing he is clearly going to be first choice and based on last season plays the majority of games (bans aside).

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  • Jib

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #23

    Either you believe that McClaren is a good enough coach to improve players or you don’t.
    I happen to believe he is.
    The last 3 premiership managers we had that lasted any time , Allardyce ,Keegan ,and Pardew , were all old school ,who believed in the old “horses for courses ” philosophy.
    Quite a few posters on here , it is obvious , still think like that .
    Some folk are going to have to drastically change their mindset and cut SM some slack on dealing with the current squad.
    We are moving away from the era of the quick fix by a panicky plunge into the transfer market (like January 2013) thank god.

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  • MidlandsMag

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #24

    Metro reporting we are signing Austin for £15m this week.

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  • toon kk

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #25

    I’m pleased with the new signings, but we need experience in the premier league as well, ask Jos’e .
    we still have a mainly mediocre squad, so a couple of injuries to key players and we’ll be lucky to buy a win.
    expect a long hard season.

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  • pawl250

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #26

    Welsh

    Pre season means nothing. I am not saying we will not concede but half the games we have not even played a full team.

    Too say we base our season of pre season form is ridiclous. Do you expect us to win EVERY pre season game?

    Should our team push themselves and risk injury for a meaningless result to satisfy our less bright fanbase who think a win actually counts for something in pre season?

    Please no!

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  • TheToonKing

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #27

    @jesperfuglsang – actually Colo played 36 games in total last year and at least 30 games every season he’s been with us, bar one (13-14 season played 28 games)

    Unlike other’s I still think he’s a good defender and can do the job. But not next to Williamson.

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  • why oh why

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #28

    Here u are !QPR striker Charlie Austin could sign for Newcastle United this week with one of the summer’s protracted transfers drawing to a close.
    Bookies across the country suspended betting on the 25-year-old forward moving to the Magpies almost a fortnight ago but there’s been no hint of a deal in the days that have followed.
    United boss Steve McClaren is keen to add another goal scorer to his squad and Austin, whose club Queens Park Rangers are holding out for £15 million, fits the bill.
    The Toon, who signed Serbian striker Aleksandar Mitrovic for approximately £15 million, aren’t prepared to take a chance with misfiring Emmanuel Riviere and injury prone Papiss Cisse and will look to take the England striker on next term.
    As reported by metro

    Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2015/07/27/qprs-charlie-austin-expected-to-complete-15million-newcastle-united-transfer-this-week-5314125/#ixzz3h5BXHutb

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #29

    Yup we need more depth and ship out the dead wood like Willo, Gouffran, Abeid, Vuckic etc. They won’t offer us anything new and they are not good enough for us. If anyone thinks differently then it’s false hope I am afraid.

    We need to replace these guys with quality back up for the inevitable injuries.

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  • davetoon

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #30

    Fixed the headline for you..

    Toon Brother – Coloccini Is One Of Our Best Players

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  • Slank

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #31

    I think that Colo still has a role to play alongside Mbemba.

    He is almost certainly the best reader of the game we have although I suspect De Jong is possibly on a par with him.

    He can also bring the ball out of defence which is essential if the team culture is possession football, which it now appears to be.

    I have had my doubts about him being captain I suppose because he rarely speaks English in public. That may be a bit harsh. What he is like behind the scenes I don’t know but it appears McClaren and before him Pardew have had very few doubts about him.

    Personally I would like to see De Jong as captain.

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  • Slank

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #32

    Why oh Why

    The headline said ‘expected to’ but the article said ‘could sign’.

    Big difference.

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  • Bambams

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #33

    We will not pay £15 million for Austin.
    QPR will have to drop that fee before the end of the window or he will be worth 4-5 million in January….Nowt next summer.

    Can’t see us paying that, ‘Best pound for pound ‘ was his quote

    IMO

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  • Jamseyd24

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #34

    we are NOT and will NOT be signing Austin!!!

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  • why oh why

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #35

    Don’t shoot the messenger
    I cut and pasted the article
    As for the cpt issue jammnat is the man I want as cpt
    And colo will be fine with mbemba
    We forget dummet is a decent centre half also

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  • Mr Funk

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #36

    Just checked the Schalke website and in the last 2 friendlies they have not played Matip – is he injured or being put to one side for a transfer?

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  • Mr Funk

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #37

    Also wasn’t there a comment from SMc where he said one or two more to come in and then later he says he is not too sure if anymore are coming in.

    Seems like he is not too sure what is happening with the transfers.

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  • firebug666

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #38

    Bambams

    I think most team that want Austin will be waiting for deadline day to see if a deal could be reached, if not there will be an almighty scramble in January.

    Personally I think QPR are shooting themselves in the foot, Austin want’s to further his England chances, and I think it’s unlikely he will sign a new deal with them, even if they look like being promoted.

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  • MidlandsMag

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #39

    I suppose they might feel that goals from Austin could hike us up the league a couple of places, recuperating his cost?

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  • tooned in

    Jul 27, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #40

    Guys – RE Sheffield United Game, in March i flew back from Whistler on a ski trip and it took me over a week to recover, i was still drifting off in my office chair in the afternoon come the following week, never underestimate the pain of jet lag, its a killer and they had only three days!! BM will be a better guide to how we are going.

    My team for start of Season

    —————–Krul—————
    Jan – Member – Colo – Haid
    Col – Wini
    Socks – DJ – Rolo
    Mitro

    Back Up

    ———–Karl/Woody———-
    RB – STAYL – LASCA – Dummett
    Anita – Tiote
    Ober – Arma – Cabel
    Cisse

    PLus Vuckic, Satka etc as young third tier – ine or two new signings to improve the second tier (allow us to play a couple of other systems) and i will be very happy

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