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Steve McClaren – Coloccini Is One Of Our Best Players

10:02 am, Monday, July 27th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 277 Comments

There is a lot of talk these days about whether the current Newcastle captain Fabricio Coloccini will see out the final year of his contract at Newcastle, and even if newcastle want to keep him at the club, after his poor form in the second half of last season.

It seems that will depend on Steve McClaren’s view of Coloccini and also what the player himself wants to do – as the Argentine came in for some criticism last season during that terrible eight game losing streak and one point in 10 games.

fab coloccini looking glum

Cheer up Colo – it may never happen

Fabricio wasn’t even in the squad for yesterday’s game but it looks like he’s still not fit with that Achilles problem, and he still hasn’t played in pre-season.

It’s very unlikely he will play in the opening game against Southampton in just less than two weeks time.

After the 2-2 draw at Bramall Lane yesterday Steve McClaren was asked about the Argentine and this is what he said:

“So far as I am concerned, I want him out on the pitch in a Newcastle shirt playing for the team, and I’m confident he will be with us at the start of the season.”

“I have been delighted with his attitude and the way he is around the place. I have looked at him in training and, certainly, he’s one of our best players.”

“So far as I am concerned, I want him out on the pitch in a Newcastle shirt playing for the team, and I’m confident he will be with us at the start of the season.”

“All that’s great – but we need him on the field. I’ve come in and heard all the talk about him, but he has got a future here.”

We gave a game at York City on Wednesday night and then a big game at home to Borussia Mönchengladbach on Saturday afternoon, and hopefully we’ll see Fabricio in action in those two games.

We would keep both Papiss Cisse and Coloccini on board for next season because they will are experienced  Premier League players, and that’s important when we have new players trying to adjust to the demands of the Premier League.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Contracts · Fabricio Coloccini · Newcastle News · Pre-season · Premier League




277 responses so far ↓

  • 1 TheToonKing // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    I’m fine with Colo & Mbemba as central defenders. An experienced smart player next to a young physical powerhouse.

    But I don’t want to see Williamson ever again, meaning we only have Tayls as a decent back-up, so we need another CB either way.

    Not convinced about Haidara either starting at LB.

  • 2 firebug666 // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    “All that’s great – but we need him on the field. I’ve come in and heard all the talk about him, but he has got a future here.”

    Mmmm he has a year left Steve and will be 34, I don’t think he has a future here, Let’s see how he gets on with a decent CB beside him, and then bring in a new one in January to replace Collo.

  • 3 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    Few comments I would like to add….

    1. Jail for Ashley, his comment on Obertan over the weekend was a classic. Analogy could not have been more accurate. What has happened to me, agreeing TWICE within a few days with JFA says, as Kamara would say “UNBELIEVABLE JEFF!”

    2. Our squad is actually big enough, compared to last season we actually have a strong squad. I know its a Pardew classic, but literally Aarons and De Jong will be like new signings this year. We certainly have enough back up in all positions now, and this is no Football Manager! You cannot have quality sitting on a bench for a team like Newcastle, maybe Man Utd, or Barcelona yes, but Newcastle its simply not possible.

    3. Chill out about yesterdays game. Its a friendly, it was not our strongest team and truth be told you would not want you players going all out in a pre season match risking injury in the process. This is about fitness. Chelsea lost a pre season match just before the weekend, does that mean they are not PL winner contenders or CL contenders? I mean seriously some people need to relax. Ok its Sheffield, but Pre Season its not about winning. Its about fitness and allowing SM to find what he believes to be his strongest 11.

  • 4 welshgeordie9 // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    So Pre Season so far regarding goals.

    Scored 8
    Conceded 9

    If that’s the squad we are going to use with no extra signings then we are either going to win games 2-1, 3-2, 4-3, or even 5-4 or lose 2-1, 3-2, 4-3, 5-4.

    Get your high blood pressure tablets ready folks, it’s going to be a very long season.

  • 5 MidlandsMag // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    Is McClaren hanging on to Coloccini to encourage that Argentinian player we are interested in (along with the usual others)?

  • 6 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    TheToonKing…the problem is neither Colo, Willo or Saylor can give you 30 games a season.

    …and non of them are any good at playing a high line or playing out of defense.

  • 7 Slank // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Someone said earlier that Colo and Mbemba together would probably (fingers crossed) make a good pairing as Colo can read the game but is slowing up whereas Mbemba is fast, mobile and physically strong.

    The other aspect is protection from the midfield.

    It would be interesting to know whether there is any correlation between our losing streak and the absence of Tiote due to injury.

  • 8 Slank // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    MidlandsMag

    Who is the Argentinian player we are interested ?

  • 9 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    Slank…Tiote was the main reason why the season before last fell apart!

    …he cannot safeguard the defense to safe his life!

  • 10 welshgeordie9 // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    pawl250

    What happens when players like De Jong and Aarons get injured, we don’t know how long they are going to last this seson, it’s alright having key players but you have got to replace key players with other key players.

    Cisse and mitrovic who have we got only perez
    Arron’s and Dejong who have we got
    Janmaat who have we got
    Cabella and Gini who have we got

    That’s just a couple of examples.

  • 11 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    MidlandsMag…I think McC is hanging on to Colo because we are getting no one else…

    Mbembe is coming it seems, but he was badly needed anyway. We still need a top CB, which we won’t be getting.

    I think who else called Mbembe to be out last purple signing was/is right!

  • 12 Graeme // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Jesper – Sick-note Saylor will give you 10 – 12 games per YEAR not per season. We have only 2 CB’s to start the season – Collo, who hasn’t played a game since the end of the last season and a new boy who has yet to play or train with us, who wont get his application for a work permit approved before Thursday – then it has to be processed by Government.

    Other than that – we are in exactly the same position as we were under Carver – and that is a frightening thought!!!

  • 13 MidlandsMag // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Slank @ 8

    Federico Mancuello – his name keeps cropping up. Didn’t take much notice at first (as we are linked with loads of players) but just makes me wonder now.

  • 14 Liono // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    @welshgeordie9
    Fair point but we aren’t chelsea – they can attract quality players who are prepared to be backup because a) they will get pitch time in all the cups/champions league games, and b) the prestige of playing for chelsea even as backup.

    Yeah injuries are going to ruin any team in our positon, thats just the way it goes.

    SMac will just have to show his tactical ability in deploying what he has in a winning system playing to the strengths of the players he has available.

  • 15 firebug666 // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Slank

    We have some good DM in this squad if they are played in the right way and system.

    We need one who will (not stay back) but hang back in the midfield ready to mop up any break away by the opposition before the even see the whites of the CB’s eyes.

    Titote use to do that for us, but not sure what happened with him, (Pardewed maybe). Colback or Anita could do that now, patrolling just ahead of the CB’s.

    Mbemba does like to get forward, so it would need Anita maybe to drop in that space as cover.

    Coloccini may show some better performances with a decent CB he can rely on and not have to cover so much ground across the back.

  • 16 Ron Knee // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Graeme – previous thread
    Spot on.

  • 17 hibbit // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    pawl total disagree we have no cover at full back R or L and dont say biggi and fergi …..our CB are just not good enough taylor colo willo were a joke last season 1 new cb pending 1 championship play never played in the prem and dummet and you think thats good enough

  • 18 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Firebug

    I think SM is saying he isn’t leaving this year with all the speculation, not that CP even want him given Dann and Hangeland are their two CB’s. As for his age, Colo is 33, going 34 mid season. John Terry is 1 year older (being 33 start of last season and 34 mid last season, 35 mid this season) and had 1 year left on is contract at the start of last season, and it was renewed. He was also the best defender in the league.

    If Colo has a great season would you not want to keep him? I think he is hindered with a poor partner *cough* Williamson *cough* in CB position. Really the only time he has looked absolutely solid was when he had a string of games with STaylor. And in doing so going in PL team of the year.

    I think Colo will be fine with abit of pace beside him. And if he has a good season I do not care if he is 34 next year I would hope he stays!

    I think he will be fine though. My only change would be him being captain. I do not think he drives the team hard enough, I think Siem would be the perfect candidate this year.

    Krul
    Janmaat – Mbemba – Coloccini – Haidara
    Wijnaldum – Tiote
    Sissoko – De Jong – Aarons
    Mitrovic

    Darlow
    STaylor
    Dummett
    Colback
    Cabella
    Perez
    Cisse

    Its a strong team. Much stronger than last season. Our season really does depend on injuries.

    Last season, Haidara was out, STaylor was out, Colo was out, Krul was out, Tiote was out, De Jong was out, Aarons was out.

    Mitrovic, Mbemba and Wijnaldum were not here. Thats pretty much our starting 11!

    Only Janmaat and Sissoko were ever present in our team.

  • 19 Slank // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:22 AM

    Jesper

    ‘..Tiote was the main reason why the season before last fell apart!..’

    Was that because he wasn’t playing or he was playing ?

  • 20 hibbit // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    janmaat and sissoko ever present i don’t think so

  • 21 Slank // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    MidlandsMag

    Cheers. Haven’t heard of him before but Argentinian defenders tend to be quite solid.

  • 22 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    Hibbit

    Was it not you saying we are fine at L/R back compared to CB. As for CB we are strong enough, much stronger than last season with the addition and you cannot judge Lascelles.

    Your argument about a Championship player is ridiclous because ALOT of players come from lower leagues and come good in the PL.

    Mbemba addition is a solid one, Colo has always been fine but I think he has been hindered by Williamson.

    Williamson is a liability but should be 4th, 5th back up.

    As for left back I think alot of PL teams would not mind Dummett and Haidara being the cover in that position.

    Right back is an issue, but if push comes to shove, Mbemba, Anita could cover, albeit I would prefer not too. As stated certainly would be my priority if I had to add one more it would be a young RB with potential who is willing to wait for game time. Lets be honest Janmaat is a great RB and anyone brought in would be coming knowing he is clearly going to be first choice and based on last season plays the majority of games (bans aside).

  • 23 Jib // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Either you believe that McClaren is a good enough coach to improve players or you don’t.
    I happen to believe he is.
    The last 3 premiership managers we had that lasted any time , Allardyce ,Keegan ,and Pardew , were all old school ,who believed in the old “horses for courses ” philosophy.
    Quite a few posters on here , it is obvious , still think like that .
    Some folk are going to have to drastically change their mindset and cut SM some slack on dealing with the current squad.
    We are moving away from the era of the quick fix by a panicky plunge into the transfer market (like January 2013) thank god.

  • 24 MidlandsMag // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Metro reporting we are signing Austin for £15m this week.

  • 25 toon kk // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    I’m pleased with the new signings, but we need experience in the premier league as well, ask Jos’e .
    we still have a mainly mediocre squad, so a couple of injuries to key players and we’ll be lucky to buy a win.
    expect a long hard season.

  • 26 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Welsh

    Pre season means nothing. I am not saying we will not concede but half the games we have not even played a full team.

    Too say we base our season of pre season form is ridiclous. Do you expect us to win EVERY pre season game?

    Should our team push themselves and risk injury for a meaningless result to satisfy our less bright fanbase who think a win actually counts for something in pre season?

    Please no!

  • 27 TheToonKing // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    @jesperfuglsang – actually Colo played 36 games in total last year and at least 30 games every season he’s been with us, bar one (13-14 season played 28 games)

    Unlike other’s I still think he’s a good defender and can do the job. But not next to Williamson.

  • 28 why oh why // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:32 AM

    Here u are !QPR striker Charlie Austin could sign for Newcastle United this week with one of the summer’s protracted transfers drawing to a close.
    Bookies across the country suspended betting on the 25-year-old forward moving to the Magpies almost a fortnight ago but there’s been no hint of a deal in the days that have followed.
    United boss Steve McClaren is keen to add another goal scorer to his squad and Austin, whose club Queens Park Rangers are holding out for £15 million, fits the bill.
    The Toon, who signed Serbian striker Aleksandar Mitrovic for approximately £15 million, aren’t prepared to take a chance with misfiring Emmanuel Riviere and injury prone Papiss Cisse and will look to take the England striker on next term.
    As reported by metro

    Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2015/07/27/qprs-charlie-austin-expected-to-complete-15million-newcastle-united-transfer-this-week-5314125/#ixzz3h5BXHutb

  • 29 JP...from The Rock // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    Yup we need more depth and ship out the dead wood like Willo, Gouffran, Abeid, Vuckic etc. They won’t offer us anything new and they are not good enough for us. If anyone thinks differently then it’s false hope I am afraid.

    We need to replace these guys with quality back up for the inevitable injuries.

  • 30 davetoon // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    Fixed the headline for you..

    Toon Brother – Coloccini Is One Of Our Best Players

  • 31 Slank // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    I think that Colo still has a role to play alongside Mbemba.

    He is almost certainly the best reader of the game we have although I suspect De Jong is possibly on a par with him.

    He can also bring the ball out of defence which is essential if the team culture is possession football, which it now appears to be.

    I have had my doubts about him being captain I suppose because he rarely speaks English in public. That may be a bit harsh. What he is like behind the scenes I don’t know but it appears McClaren and before him Pardew have had very few doubts about him.

    Personally I would like to see De Jong as captain.

  • 32 Slank // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:44 AM

    Why oh Why

    The headline said ‘expected to’ but the article said ‘could sign’.

    Big difference.

  • 33 Bambams // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:44 AM

    We will not pay £15 million for Austin.
    QPR will have to drop that fee before the end of the window or he will be worth 4-5 million in January….Nowt next summer.

    Can’t see us paying that, ‘Best pound for pound ‘ was his quote

    IMO

  • 34 Jamseyd24 // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    we are NOT and will NOT be signing Austin!!!

  • 35 why oh why // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    Don’t shoot the messenger
    I cut and pasted the article
    As for the cpt issue jammnat is the man I want as cpt
    And colo will be fine with mbemba
    We forget dummet is a decent centre half also

  • 36 Mr Funk // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    Just checked the Schalke website and in the last 2 friendlies they have not played Matip – is he injured or being put to one side for a transfer?

  • 37 Mr Funk // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Also wasn’t there a comment from SMc where he said one or two more to come in and then later he says he is not too sure if anymore are coming in.

    Seems like he is not too sure what is happening with the transfers.

  • 38 firebug666 // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Bambams

    I think most team that want Austin will be waiting for deadline day to see if a deal could be reached, if not there will be an almighty scramble in January.

    Personally I think QPR are shooting themselves in the foot, Austin want’s to further his England chances, and I think it’s unlikely he will sign a new deal with them, even if they look like being promoted.

  • 39 MidlandsMag // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    I suppose they might feel that goals from Austin could hike us up the league a couple of places, recuperating his cost?

  • 40 tooned in // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Guys – RE Sheffield United Game, in March i flew back from Whistler on a ski trip and it took me over a week to recover, i was still drifting off in my office chair in the afternoon come the following week, never underestimate the pain of jet lag, its a killer and they had only three days!! BM will be a better guide to how we are going.

    My team for start of Season

    —————–Krul—————
    Jan – Member – Colo – Haid
    Col – Wini
    Socks – DJ – Rolo
    Mitro

    Back Up

    ———–Karl/Woody———-
    RB – STAYL – LASCA – Dummett
    Anita – Tiote
    Ober – Arma – Cabel
    Cisse

    PLus Vuckic, Satka etc as young third tier – ine or two new signings to improve the second tier (allow us to play a couple of other systems) and i will be very happy

  • 41 Jib // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Mr Funk
    They said ankle problems
    Whether that is the truth , who knows?

  • 42 Jib // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:55 AM

    diese alte Geschichte Knöchelprobleme

  • 43 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    TheToonKing…I am talking PL games. Colo had 32 games and I’ll bet you he won’t hit that this season.

    Graeme..from this thread

    Spot on mate!

    Slank…both I suppose 😉

  • 44 Jib // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM

    diese alte Kastanie , Knöchelprobleme

  • 45 Slank // Jul 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM

    Mr Funk

    I think that is entirely reasonable that it seems like he is not too sure what is happening with the transfers as he doesn’t do the actual business with the players, agents and club officials.

    I may be that bids have been lodged but due to other circumstances we have to wait. Bit like buying a house in a chain.

  • 46 richyg01 // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    Any truth in this report?

    http://www.footballfancast.com/football-news/newcastle-on-verge-of-completing-15m-deal-for-aston-villa-target?

  • 47 Jamseyd24 // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:02 AM

    Does any body know much about James Chester (Hull) seems to be mentioned alot????

  • 48 Mr Funk // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:03 AM

    @ Jib

    Cannot see anything on their website about Matip being injured – do you have a link?

  • 49 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:06 AM

    It’s a difficult one with Colo.

    Cons:

    Nearly 34
    Pace gone
    Not a great header of the ball
    Wants to be with his family in Argentina
    Not a vocal captain
    Sometimes a bit cowardly + spiteful in his play

    Pros

    Is a ball playing CB so won’t hoof under SM
    Has had to play alongside Willo and saylor.
    Vast experience.

    On balance if CP are offering silly money I’d bite their hands off and go in for any of Veltman, Rutiger, Matip, N’Kolou, even Dunk as I guess Abdennour is no longer an option.

  • 50 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    richy

    Hopefully not when it could go on a desperately needed top defender

  • 51 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:11 AM

    richy at 46

    Like we’d know …lol!

  • 52 Lindisfarne // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:13 AM

    Jonny Evans & Andre Carrillo (Sporting)
    NOW!!!!
    NOW!!!!!!!!
    NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 53 TomTheToon // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:16 AM

    ABDENNOUR ON BARCA

    Tunisia defender Aymen Abdennour has expressed his desire to play for Barcelona and insists he will not leave Monaco for a club that cannot offer him Champions League football.

    When asked about the possibility of joining Barca, he told Sport: “I am prepared to play at Barca. I am a very competitive footballer and I believe that I meet the conditions to succeed.

    “I will only leave Monaco to play in the Champions League. My president has told me that he will only let me leave for a big club. If the one that wants me is not a big club, I do not move from here. I would like to go to a big club and that’s what Barca is.”

  • 54 Slank // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:21 AM

    Rotonda @ 49

    I doubt the club is looking at Matip, N’Kolou or Abdennour unless they are very brave or really short sighted as any one of these three would be off to the ACON along with Mbemba.

    No problem if we have two very good replacements but I somehow doubt it.

  • 55 Jib // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:21 AM

    Mr Funk
    Sorry for delay (making wifes brekky)

    http://www.90min.com/de/posts/2379864-fc-schalke-04-die-marktwertverlierer-im-uberblick
    ^
    It is in there somewhere

  • 56 TomTheToon // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:24 AM

    Keep Colo, sign Feyenoord duo Kongolo and Boetius, get rid of deadwood. Job done

  • 57 TomTheToon // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:25 AM

    Then partner Kongolo with Colo and Mbemba as def mid

  • 58 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    slank

    ACON is not a factor this season, worry about that later. More immediate concerns is a season with willo, colo and saylor.

    Obviously rutiger, veltman and dunk have more ongoing availability, but that’s the least of our worries at the moment.

  • 59 Slank // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:28 AM

    richyg01 @ 46

    It is a rehash of the Metro story.

  • 60 Mr Funk // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:29 AM

    @ Jib

    Nothing in there about current injury, just saying that he was injured for alot of last year.

    Anyway, better to have a good defender in now such as Matip and then worry about cover for him when he is away at ACON

  • 61 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:30 AM

    lindis

    please enough of the evans. as error prone as bramble was, no wonder lvg wants rid. I don’t know enough about carrillo except he is very hightly rated.

  • 62 Jamseyd24 // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM

    Ha Ha Evans is head and shoulders above any of our current CBs. He is so bad, he has move Prem league winners medals than Newcastle could dream of winning.

    So NUFC supports need to wise up

  • 63 sweendog // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:39 AM

    Rotonda heights 61 . agreed .. Evans is poor. Would like Kongolo and keep Collo, at least until next year. I’ve a feeling we’ve burnt our bridges with him in how we treated his mate, nevermind his desire to go back to Argentina for family reasons.

  • 64 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:42 AM

    We must keep coloccini. If we sell him we wont replace. Coloccini will partner mbemba. Man Utd are after mike Williamson on loan as a replacement for Jonny Evans. They want someone who has pace, skill and doesn’t get sent off deliberately.

  • 65 tequilamag // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:42 AM

    Evans is decent not great but he has played even less than Saylor over the last 5 seasons. Far too expensive for another sicknote

  • 66 Mr Funk // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:44 AM

    I see Feyenoord have just signed a new defender – will this open a transfer for Kongolo?

  • 67 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    Kongolo is a versatile player. He plays centre back as well as left back. 3.5m is a bargain. Shaqiri, kongolo, van dijk, Leroy fer and aubameyang should be signed

  • 68 Chris // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:48 AM

    “ACON is not a factor this season, worry about that later. More immediate concerns is a season with willo, colo and saylor.”
    ——–

    Sorry, but ACON IS a factor that shouldn’t be ignored. Also don’t forget that in the case of N’Koulou and Abdennour the club would once again have the hassle of needing to apply for a work permit (Matip looks like he’s got dual German nationality so he should be ok). If they really wanted to bring in either of the other 2 players they should have got it sorted weeks ago.

  • 69 TomTheToon // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:50 AM

    If toon sign another defender plus Mbemba, Steve Mc may be tempted by a 3-5-2, colo alongside Mbemba plus one other, then janmaat and haidara/Aarons bombing up the flanks. The midfield could then be a diamond which would suit sissoko and wijnaldum and give them freedom. The def mid could just sit and SDJ would just be allowed freedom to float. This formation would allow a lot of runners and allow players to get in behind Mitrovic and into the box. We missed this type of play a lot last season and with all these runners, the opposition defence/midfield would have a lot more to think about and pressure would be taken off our defence! Hope Steve Mc has thought about this and would like to have seen him experiment with it in pre season!

  • 70 Terry // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:50 AM

    Surely mcClaren would have enough intelligence to look at the goals against column for last season and realise that’s where our problems lie.People who think that willo,colo,Taylor are unfairly treated should remember they have had since the CHAMPIONSHIP for gods sake to prove themselves

  • 71 Mr Magpie // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:53 AM

    TOONED IN@40
    You have not put Perez in there anywhere?

  • 72 Tsunki // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:56 AM

    Ketsbaia ha ha I see you haven’t lost any of the old magic. I can’t wait to see Willo pulling on the Red shirt 😀

  • 73 Tsunki // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:57 AM

    I think Ketsy us right about colo though definitely get his replacement in before selling him or we would be stuffed.

  • 74 lochinvar // Jul 27, 2015 at 11:58 AM

    McLaren wants Colo “at the START of the season”
    Is the clue here” START”
    In other words is that Ashley saying you’ve had the first part of the dosh now – so let’s see how we get on and review the position in January when we can bring in replacements then for Colo and Willo but only if needed.

    In other words muddle through and hope that we are ok in January and that we don’t repeat the Carver fiasco

    If that happens all the forward thinking so far with new coaches, new Head Coach and new players so far is put at risk.

    Start as you mean to go on or should that be go on as we started – in other words sort out the options in DEFENCE but now not in 6 months.

  • 75 Mr Funk // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:01 PM

    Ibrahim Afellay to Stoke apparently – have we missed an opportunity?

  • 76 Mr Magpie // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:01 PM

    Kets
    Where have you seen that Kongolo is available at only £3.5m?

  • 77 Mister Tuff // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:07 PM

    I see that this summer the transfer window closes at 6 pm on 1st September – so if things get off to a distasterous start there will be a bit of time to rectify things.
    I still think there will be at least one other decent signing – but in view of Wallys comments probably not a Colo replacement.
    We have too many sick notes as defenders – the inevitable WILL happen again.

  • 78 JAMSHA // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:08 PM

    Funny How Some ppl Think Getn These 3 Players Will Get us in top 6-8, We Need 3-4 More players to even dream of top 6,

  • 79 JAMSHA // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:10 PM

    other teams are all out for 6-7 players already, while we may end up with just 3, Fat man is again playn his tricks

  • 80 Jib // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:11 PM

    I was going to ask Lilo but he’s off to training.
    Can anyone explain why we are still so interested in Mario Lemina of Marseilles (reported in L’Equipe)
    He is a defensive midfielder who looks like a leggy Tiote , tough bugger (red carded for punching someone in the nuts) and has a real eye for a long pass.
    L’Equipe are adamant that Marseilles are getting free agent Abou Diaby to replace him , and NUFC have already tabled an offer for Lemina.

  • 81 Graeme // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:17 PM

    Rotunda @ 49 – but what do you consider silly money??

    I would take £1 million for him – PROVIDING we have a replacement lined up!!

  • 82 Graeme // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:23 PM

    Jamsha @ 78, 79

    It matters not one jot what other teams are doing – who gives a s*%t?

    We are now in a 3 window building process, the first 3 players are done and they are superb players we have brought in. We desperately need another CB, for sure, but the window is open for another 5 WEEKS!!!
    Providing we bring in another quality CB, I will be happy – we then continue to improve in January and next summer.

    There is no way we will be anywhere near top 6 this season, I dont think anyone seriously expects us to. Anything around mid table, considering where we were last season, will be more than acceptable. It will be next season at the earliest, probably the season after, before we see the fruits of the rebuilding bringing joy and happiness!!!!

  • 83 will die for the toon army // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:24 PM

    Soccer_sauce promised us Shaqiri

  • 84 Ron Knee // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:25 PM

    Graeme
    And then you wake up!

  • 85 bills-son // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:26 PM

    Jib // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:11 PM Can anyone explain why we are still so interested in Mario Lemina of Marseilles (reported in L’Equipe)

    Can you explain why you believe we are interested in him?

    We have been reported as being interested in well over 100 players – 97%+ of such reports are bo11ox.

  • 86 Essex Geordie Bill // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:29 PM

    going back to SMs comments re. his current squad, I have the impression he is or was delighted with the players already at the club and possibly see’s the newcomers as icing on the cake.

    The injuries we had last season would probably have tested the best managers in the game to get the best out of whatever teams were able to be used.

    It was with interesting to watch the 24/7 magpie video and seeing the use of ‘Ice baths.’ But I did wonder why they were using dustbins for the purpose. It does give a new meaning to the term ‘Bin-dippers’

    Now ice baths are a proven way of reducing the chances of serious injuries but given that millions are being spent on players why are our lads having to use dustbins?

    Surely purpose built baths can be built for a few thousand pounds.

    Possibly to serious a question to ask on the blog but I felt the need to mention it. as it could reflect some underlying training faults or not as the case may be.

  • 87 Tsunki // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:30 PM

    Considering the amount of TV money being thrown at pl clubs now you have to say that the stakes have upped somewhat for not just staying in the league, but being in that visible top 6 area where game coverage increases. Add to that the ever – lucrative area of extra advertising and gate revenue from the cups, and we again have a revenue year to top all previous years. Given that, it’s probably not been as ambitious a transfer window for us as many seem to think. The calls for patience as we SLOWLY rebuild a squad that has actually been in the process of rebuilding for at least six years is beginning to sound a bit slack given the pressure now on to perform and mix it with the big revenue hitters. I’m sure we are cautiously optimistic about SM’s abilities to wring a competitive team out of the current players, but look at the teams around us and what they are doing by comparison – they might not be so accommodating as to give us an easy ride for the season openers.

  • 88 Tsunki // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:34 PM

    Essex – I think the bins were a means of getting it started quickly as a regime and not necessarily a long term solution. I’d credit them with at least upgrading the blue recycle wheelie bins. I hope.

    Mind you I can’t help reflecting on the irony of Willo and Goofy climbing into dustbins…:)

  • 89 sweendog // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:40 PM

    jib, tiote is away and this is his replacement I reckon.
    looks like a good player too.

  • 90 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:42 PM

    graeme

    that bastion of the truth the daily star were saying 6M

  • 91 EllaGuru // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:44 PM

    One of the biggest reasons why Chelsea were so hard to break down last season? Matic!
    He provided that wall in front of the CB partnership. I remember a couple of games last season, when Matic was out, where the Chelsea defense looked porous.
    We could be in a similar position this season. Colo and Mbemba, with support in front of them (Colback/Anita).
    However is tasked with playing in front of the back 4 needs to be on a tight leash however. No wandering, just clean up, win possession and simple distribution.

  • 92 martoon // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:48 PM

    I think our first choice team is decent – but although we have a reasonable size squad our strength in depth is lacking. However as someone pointed out earlier top players are not going to be willing to sit on our bench and that is the Catch 22 we find ourselves in!

  • 93 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:49 PM

    jamsey

    imagine if evans had been playing for us instead of manu, his blunders would not be hidden so easily. A graduate from monkey world is an improvement on willo.

  • 94 Graeme // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:52 PM

    Ron Knee @ 84 – We live in hope mate, we live in hope.

    Another season like last season would be an absolute disaster!!!

  • 95 Graeme // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:54 PM

    Rotunda @ 90 It must be true mate lmao

    We can but dream of £6 million for him – santa comes early!!!!!

  • 96 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 12:54 PM

    Kets

    Would love to know your starting 11 and bench…..

    Then I would love to know how you would explain to the players they are sitting on the bench.

    I mean you name like 5-6 players in a row. You can tell you bum Football Manager or Fifa…… I would go as far to say your the type of player on FM that would fake manager the top clubs and sell the players cheap to yourself and have likes of Messi on the bench and think you are mint at the game.

    Just your targets are not plausible at all!

  • 97 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:00 PM

    Hibbit

    Sissoko made 37 starting appearances last year.

    Janmaat made 40 starting appearances last year.

    Thats for PL, FA Cup and League Cup.

    Only Coloccini (36) and Colback (38) match or come close to them. With Janmaat actually having the most out of all our players.

    YES he is ever present. You have no clue do you?

    Surprised by Colo to be fair.

  • 98 tooned in // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:01 PM

    Mr Magpie @71- I realised that when i read another post without Anita in it too! Dohh! – really feel our front and midfield is looking really good for top 8 finish, just need a couple of bit’s of quality in the back – we need a good young RB prospect (leeds Kid?) and possibly a CB, although i think if we go with Dummett at CB and LB cover then we have some depth to the squad, after all he is part of a FIFA top 10 country defence!!!!

  • 99 will die for the toon army // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:07 PM

    NUFC shld sign Austin of he really wants to come to us.

  • 100 JamesToon // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:08 PM

    Toonin

    We don’t need to go splashing the cash on a “prospect” RB such as byram. we’ve got one already in Jamie Sterry!

  • 101 JamesToon // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:09 PM

    Abdennour/Matip/Van Dijk
    Shaqiri/Carillo/Townsend/Thauvin
    Austin/Berahino

    Sorted.

  • 102 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:10 PM

    Haha sod off. We’ve been linked with all of the players that I have mentioned on that list. We need 3 new defenders excluding mbemba. Were conceding too many goals. I’m too old for fm. I used to play championship manager 2. That was awesome. My football knowledge is great. Colback is the weak link in our midfield. Abeid is one of our best players. Colback only started ahead of him because he’s a geordie. The link with Carrick is a joke. He is useless. The best geordie player is Adam johhnson

  • 103 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:10 PM

    People slate Sissoko for his creativity yet he was in the top 10 creative players in terms of chances created the season Cabaye left when he was played out wide. I think he was like 4th or 5th.

    I cannot understand how you can say he cannot cross or pass and what not when the statement above is 100% fact.

    Ok he does not have the work rate, or bottle in the middle of the park. YET if he is played out wide he could really hurt teams on the counter.

    Most games I see him out wide he gets down the line and is always looking to take people on. Exactly what we need out wide.

    Krul – Decent keeper.

    Janmaat – One of the best right backs we have had
    Mbemba – Promising hope he turns out as good as we think
    Coloccini – Terry is 1 year old and doing it. He is slower than Colo albeit has a better team around him. I would not say he has better pace around him though. That said I think Colo can do a job if he does not need to babysit Williamson.
    Haidara – Big season for him, not the best defender, hopefully it improves but always a danger other way.

    Wijnaldum – Guy will be quality. I would put money on it. Wanted him here for the last 2 years. Great signing.
    Tiote – He needs to go back to what he did on his arrival. Just mopping up the play and protecting the defence. None of this shoot from 40 yards because I scored once.

    Sissoko – see above
    De Jong – Hopefully injuries were unique last season to not plague his season. I mean a collapsed lung! BUT this guy is quality. On the floor, in the air, he is just quality. Cannot see how or why this guy would start on the bench.
    Aarons – Now this guy is injury prone, but he is a danger. Needs to be managed properly, and rotate with Cabella or Perez.

    Mitrovic – Time will tell.

    My starting 11, and I do not think I could buy many players to knock those players out of the starting 11.

  • 104 TomTheToon // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:12 PM

    Mr Funk

    Afellay although had great potential seems a player who has had his career ruined by his injury proneness. When he went to Barca a lot of people thought he would become a very effective player in their system, however injuries decimated his opportunities to impress. I don’t think Newcastle are in a position to bring in another injury prone player however cheap he can be picked up.

  • 105 JamesToon // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:12 PM

    Perhaps if Tottenham want to then a straight swap deal with Sissoko for Ben Davies & Andros Townsend

  • 106 JamesToon // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:15 PM

    Kets is so funny hahaha I could just imagine him giving a team talk to the team before the saints game “right Colback, you’re only being picked because you’re Geordie, other than that you are sh*t.”

  • 107 Klam3r // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:17 PM

    EllaGuru @ 91
    Spot on!
    That position is one of the most important ones. We don’t have a DM that can both clean up and be a part of a build up play with accurate passes. Tiote can clean but he sprints out of position far too easy and does some strange things quite often. Anita is better suited to McClarens way perhaps, but it’s a position we should strengthen soon.

  • 108 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:17 PM

    What has Adam Johnson got to do with anything.

    We may have been linked to Aubameyang a long time ago but this season they are quoting Arsenal bid 30m and they won’t sell him.

    Why 1. would he want to come here if he had a choice and 2. where the hell are you going to convince MA to spend 30m+ on a player?!

    Seriously man give your head a shake!

    As for other players, linked or not does it matter? We were “linked” to Moutinho last week does that mean he is a realistic target?! LOL

    The truth of it is you name all these players, hell you were wobbling on about Mangala way back and for 30m he was the biggest flop in a long time.

    All talk, and no actual reason or logic behind your buys.

    I mean a couple of years ago it was Mcmanaman you wanted, again another flop rotting on a bench in the PL. Some great buy you tipped for greatness saying he was all this….. cannot even make it in WBA making 10 apps and NO GOALS!!

    HAHA!

  • 109 Pardews Priceless Bulls#*t // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:18 PM

    @welsh Going all the way bavk to you saying weve conceded 9 in pre season. We conceded 4 of those in a game with a totally makeshift weak back line. Using this as any sort of scale for how we will concede in the premiership is ridiculous

  • 110 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:23 PM

    james toon at 105

    have you seen townsends stats? virtually next to no end product

  • 111 croftus5678 // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:23 PM

    ok…so me waking up in very good mood i’m feeling like being optimistic !

    anyone think its too far fetched for colo/mbemba being an awsome prem beating defence !

    and that cabella can show huge class and be the right winger we dep need when playing a 4-4-2 ?

    ———————-krul————————–
    janmaat-mbemba-colocini-hairdryer
    cabella–de-jong–wijnaldum-rolando
    ————cisse-mitrovic——————–

    attack attack attack nvm the defence 😉

  • 112 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:23 PM

    PPB

    100% agree, as I said above.

  • 113 beermonkey // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:24 PM

    jamestoon

    is sterry ready for the back up role and cup games
    or would he not benefit from a loan spell

    for me with mbemba colo leshelles dummett I would shove taylor out as rb if he is not injured

  • 114 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:27 PM

    Marveaux needs to be kept. He has everything and should start in at least half of the games. His assist record is tremendous. He shouldn’t have been loaned out. We should’ve kept santon too. He was our best left back

  • 115 Pardews Priceless Bulls#*t // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:27 PM

    Pawl I see you are engaging kets youu realize he is a total troll or an absolute looney toon right? He once said he hoped pardew was reading his comments and would implement them. Also he keeps saying his football knowledge is amazing then wanted us to sign scharner!

  • 116 will die for the toon army // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:34 PM

    We dont have so many wingers if we sell obertan Guafrann Marvuex so it will only b Aarons and if we go two on top we shld play thediamond foformation.
    ………………Krul
    Janmatt…..Mbemba…..Colo……….Haidara
    …………………….Toite
    …………Sissoko…………..Wijnaldum
    ………………….De Jong
    …………Mitrovic…………….Austin/Cisse.

    We can bring on either Perez/Aarons and we revert to 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1

    Cabella can b a direct replacement for De Jong.

    We have so many midfielders so I think this is the best formation for us.

  • 117 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:34 PM

    Croftus

    No need not to be optimistic.

    Have we improved on last years team, yes.

    Would we have finished higher in the PL last year with SM instead of Carver, I would say yes.

    Would we have finished higher if we had De Jong, Aarons, Cisse the majority of a season, again I would say yes.

    I am not saying top 6, lets be honest Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool and Tottenham will probably be the top 6. You are talking one having a bad season to even consider, much like the season we finished 5 a couple had bad seasons.

    We should be looking to contend with 7th, 8th, 9th spot. Realistically its possible.

    Key for me though is a solid cup run, and try and win one. I would take 10th and a cup final, I would take 17th and a cup win!!

  • 118 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:37 PM

    Kets

    Marveaux is awful and goes missing in far too many games.

    I hope he comes good as would offer a good back up to Aarons on the left but I would like to know where you think he should start in this team

    ——————— Krul
    Janmaat – Mbemba – Coloccini – Haidara
    ———- Wijnaldum – Tiote
    Sissoko ——— De Jong ——— Aarons
    ——————– Mitrovic

  • 119 croftus5678 // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:40 PM

    @117 pawl

    imo we need to be pushing for cups and top 6 with our current squad or the team we start the season with or risk losing rolando/mitrovic/siem ect ect ect as the challenging teams will take them off our hands !

    i just hope we have enough quality to do that ! mid table is def not enough for us this year imo or next year our team quality falls apart.

  • 120 will die for the toon army // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:42 PM

    We are all putting Mr. T in our team so where is he? Gone missing for two weeks. I thought he wld play today.

  • 121 dok - the horrid colonial // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:45 PM

    pawl @ 118,

    colback on the bench?

  • 122 Derek // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:47 PM

    I saw enough goals conceeded last season by Colo being out of position and leaving men unmarked in the box. I really dont want to see that again. Perhaps SMc can address this, but by 34 he should know better and I think its a risk to keep him as a first team starter. Especially with Mbemba and Lascelles beside him, who are unprovenin the EPL

  • 123 WLtoon // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:47 PM

    We just keep going round and round in circles with Austin ffs.
    Why dont we either sign him,,no work permit needed. or forget him.
    It seems that we are deliberately finding excuses not to sign him.
    The latest one is his supposed shoulder problem?
    We have accused him of being greedy for wanting 80k a wk, then his wife was used as an excuse,apparently she wants to stay in London.
    Maybe the fact is that we are.nt that ambitious,and or still hav,nt changed our policy in the spending.
    Ashley has a habit of recouping monies spent on new signings by selling at the last minute so i would,nt be surprised if it happens this window.

  • 124 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:55 PM

    Croftus

    I see what you are saying but fact remains we should not be finishing top 6. Look at the teams, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man Utd and Man City are light years ahead.

    Liverpool are abit up in the air but still have a much larger squad with some really strong players, like Coutinho, Henderson, Sturridge and adding to it! I supposed 1 that could fall out would be Spurs if Kane is a 1 season wonder they will struggle but still, cannot really see it to be honest.

    Assuming it does, you have Southampton, Everton, Swansea, Stoke, Palace all finished last year strong and arguably equal in terms of a quality.

    Top 6 would be a tough ask. Even with new additions you are assuming Mitrovic will score goals and likes of Aarsons and De Jong have strong healthy seasons.

    I have no doubt we have quality within our team but asking alot for no injuries and certain signings to step up instantly.

  • 125 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 1:59 PM

    Derek

    Coloccini at times last season was a reason we did not concede as many goals.

    I know he does sometimes move out of position but I generally think he was and possibly still is our best defender given the circumstances I cannot say Mbemba is better or worse. But I do not think any current confirmed NUFC player is a better defender than Coloccini.

    Dok

    Colback would be on the bench for me. I think Tiote offers more defensively and Wijnaldum offers more offensively. I would even be tempted to put Anita in before him as on a good day he is arguably our hardest working midfielder.

    Colback is not a bad player, but we do have better players. Would he have got in the team with Tiote and Cabaye, no. I dount he will with Tiote and Wijnaldum.

  • 126 Barton // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:04 PM

    Tbh all this talk of first 11 is a waste of time,how often in the pro game does the manager/Hcoach have a full squad to pick from ? at any level,thats why talk of first 11 ruddy purples is bollards,you need a squad of players just to compete,thats why another CB at least is a must.

  • 127 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:05 PM

    WL

    Do not think we as a club accused him of wages. I think its the media saying all interested clubs are put off.

    That said he seems to have made a good joke about it on twitter which suggested it is not true.

    Most players i.e. Sterling would just stay quiet had they demanded it, as it was true.

    I think Austin knows someone will become desperate. Whether it be QPR to sell him, or a team like Spurs need a second striker.

    I would not think it out of the realms than Chelsea or Man Utd could end up with him. Baring in mind RVP has left, Hernandez could we follow and Falcao loan did not follow through with a buy leaving Rooney as their only striker.

    Likewise with Chelsea if Remy was to leave it would only leave Costa who is renowned for injuries/suspensions and Falcao who did not do the business for Utd. Could well see him as a 10m last minute back up. He has a goals record to prove he can do it.

  • 128 Essex Geordie Bill // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:10 PM

    Tsunki

    Sorry for delay in replying

    I have a picture in my mind of SM chasing the dust cart down the road shouting “Oy gimme back the Captains armband”

    🙂

  • 129 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:11 PM

    Barton

    I totally disagree, enough to say I think your comment is ridiculous.

    Currently SM has a full selection to choose from outside of Cabella and Riviere according to recent articles.

    Pre season is all about fitness, certain players need to trim down excess weight etc so will get more game time. I think something odd is happening with Tiote, not sure what for him to not be in contention.

    YET how many times did Chelsea play last year not starting the strongest 11 players?

    I mean seriously, yes you get injuries but your starting 11 is your starting 11. Year we finished 5th we went up to 5th December with pretty much an unchanged starting 11…. I think Ba came into the fold a couple games into season and kept his place and that was the only change.

  • 130 Barton // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:14 PM

    so you pick the same 11 regardless of the oposition do you ?,it does not matter how they play,how they line up,who starting ect ect ,am sorry but to say you stick with the same 11 regardless is ridiculous m8,and evey season,every team will suffer injuries,after all wat is the excuse we heard all last season ?

  • 131 Slank // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:18 PM

    Pawl @ 124

    That’s a very realistic assessment.

    Fans who are thinking of a top six finish are deludimg themselves as either Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool or Spurs would have to have had a truly disastrous season and we would have to have beaten the likes of Southampton, Swansea, Palace, Everton and Stoke to get within the top six.

    It ain’t going to happen.

  • 132 WLtoon // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:20 PM

    @127 pawl.

    wther its speculation on his wages or not,my main point was that we are making excuses up left right and centre about why we wont sign Austin.
    I think he would be a great addition for us but just cant see it happening.
    IF Ashley is waiting til the end of august to try and squeeze QPR for a deal then he is taking it for granted that nobody else is interested in Austin
    If Chelsea and/or Spurs are, then we,ve got no chance.

  • 133 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:25 PM

    WL

    Who says we are even interested in him? Cannot see an official quote from any NUFC source stating we are delaying or even bidding for him.

    Barton

    An unchanged 11 if winning is the best 11 you can play against any side. Its why Ben Arfa did not get in for Obertan and why Santon did not get in for RTaylor on that amazing run we had that year,

    If the team is performing and its your strongest 11 you should start them every time. If Mitrovic cannot score after a few games then give Cisse a chance, but ultimately I cannot see many changes if we have a winning team, why change it.

    Its only if your team is losing or under performing you should change what you deem to be the best 11. Unless injuries or a rest is needed but naturally when Cabaye came back he walked in the team, as would most of a managers starting 11.

  • 134 richyg01 // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:27 PM

    Hope this aint true re. Aarons…

    http://metro.co.uk/2015/07/27/arsenal-ready-to-grab-rolando-aarons-transfer-after-newcastle-contract-row-5315025/?

  • 135 ToonFromLeeds // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:29 PM

    Afternoon guys, whats this about Aarons rowing over contract?

  • 136 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:31 PM

    if aarons goes, charnley and co need shooting

  • 137 Barton // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:32 PM

    hold on m8,jst make myself some dupe acc’s can then agree with myself like a lot of sad sacks on here…..Harrrumph

  • 138 dok - the horrid colonial // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:33 PM

    TFL,

    cant help but be a little happier each time you post… hope youre progressing well lad

  • 139 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:34 PM

    we keep 10 games a season saylor on 50k a week but won’t give the best thing that’s come out of the academy in years a proper wedge for his ability.

    Yes he’s been injured but that’s been under a previous dumbass manager who brought him back too soon. If aarons goes that will blow away any feel good factor that had come back.

  • 140 Slank // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:36 PM

    richyg01 @ 134

    I don’t know whether you noticed the reaction from the other players when Aarons scored. They hardly acknowledged him unlike when Gini or De Jong scored. I know it was only preseason games but there was something not quite right with the body language.

  • 141 ToonFromLeeds // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:36 PM

    Dok well I’m home now so getting there mate thank you

    Barton is that you G2?

  • 142 check the toastie // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:37 PM

    If we lose Aarons as the club wont pay him what another will, the whole promise of ‘attaching the horse to the cart’ is utter ‘b**ls**t. I will not set foot through St James Park until Ashley is gone if Aarons leaves the club for free.

    Utter garbage and penny pinching, not sure whether people at our club truely appreciate business, if we give him 50k a week (2.5million a year) he will be over the moon, and will be worth 30million by the end of this season. Utter stupidity if we lose the kid.

  • 143 ToonFromLeeds // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:39 PM

    http://www.brentwoodgazette.co.uk/West-Ham-transfer-news-Hammers-target-Austin/story-27492562-detail/story.html
    HAmmers target prefers Newcastle move!!!

  • 144 WLtoon // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:40 PM

    @133 pawl

    when does the club ever tell the fans who thet are chasing?
    We only find out through the media,and most of the time its bull anyway.
    We were,nt told we are after Mitrovic either but relied on papertalk,and in this instance we did sign him.
    Like i said, ile be very surprised if we get Austin,wether its this week or next month.

  • 145 check the toastie // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:40 PM

    I have noticed the kid doesnt really play wth a smile on his face mind, think hes a bit fedup regards club not offering a decent contract, he should be given the sam eas Mitrovic, hes as important.

    Hes home grown though and will be offered peanuts, no doubt Perez is still on peanuts an all. He wil be next away.

  • 146 Barton // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:41 PM

    @141 no m8.

  • 147 ToonFromLeeds // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:42 PM

    something gives me the impression that Aarons has got to big for his boots

  • 148 will die for the toon army // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:44 PM

    Metro is looking to sell news papers from Austin being a done deal to Aarons going to Arsenal.
    Thats all bull sh&t

  • 149 sweendog // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:44 PM

    I think Aarons has to sign a new deal, mc Claren and the management team are very good. If he moves it’ll be too soon for the kid I think.
    1 or 2 years at the toon and he could be huge.
    We’ll wait and see on this one, but the contact is taking a while, I think they’re hesitant due to injuries and rightly so.

  • 150 ToonFromLeeds // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:47 PM

    WDFTA
    I hope they aren’t hoping to sell newspapers because they are free

  • 151 will die for the toon army // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:47 PM

    Aarons has jst shown glimpse of being a good player that’s all he has to show it game after game jst like Perez did it. I wld give Perez an improved Contract before Aarons.

  • 152 why oh why // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:47 PM

    News
    g target Charlie Austin has told Newcastle officials he would favour a move to the North East.

    Austin has been attracted interest from a number of top flight sides since QPR were relegated to the Championship, but they have all been put off by his £15 million price tag.

    Read more at http://www.brentwoodgazette.co.uk/West-Ham-transfer-news-Hammers-target-Austin/story-27492562-detail/story.html#e00V1uco7EMwFlkD.99

  • 153 Essex Geordie Bill // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:49 PM

    Damn, if he is sold we’ll have to stop laughing at Liverpool over the Sterling fiasco.

  • 154 Essex Geordie Bill // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:51 PM

    Isn’t the Metro a free newspaper, same as the one in London?

  • 155 Essex Geordie Bill // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:52 PM

    Oops I see TFL beat me to it, sorry.

    Glad to see you are on the ball TFL

  • 156 TudorCrisps // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:52 PM

    Aarons wont be going no where yet, mike ashleys isint daft as we all like to think he is, the kids got the ability to be just as if not better than sterling, why would he go now with one year left on his contract we would be paid peanuts, offer him 40 k a week and watch him blossom

  • 157 ToonFromLeeds // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:53 PM

    only just EGB mate lol

  • 158 Derek // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    Aarons out, Obertan in for left wing… great way to bring Ashley Out protests back with a vengence!

    I would say more media BS like the 100+ players we have been linked with. Seriously hope I’m right though!

  • 159 will die for the toon army // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    Aarons shld b patient. He has to show he is worth a deal. It jst reminds me Kemen we all say he is good failed to even make one appearance with the injuries we had last season. U have to show ur worth. Adam Campbell, Ferguson, Rangers, Bigi are players that impressed but really dont know wat happened. The funny thing they all got a chance for a full season. Pardew Pardew. I don’t know if we just made e wrong loans

  • 160 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    tudor

    i doubt ash even knows who aarons is

  • 161 TudorCrisps // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:57 PM

    haha rotonda maybie he’s trying to sign him for nufc!

    Mike has surely got to be thinking how much Aarons is worth at the end of the season, all it takes is a 5 year 40 k a week contract, have a wonder season like sterling and bobs ya aunty

  • 162 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:57 PM

    will die

    aarons has been the real deal from the get go. None of the others like campbell, armstrong, sameobi etc have really done anything. Aarons makes an impact every time he’s on the pitch. If ash and charnley screw this up I’ll be livid.

  • 163 will die for the toon army // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:58 PM

    TFL my bad

  • 164 ToonFromLeeds // Jul 27, 2015 at 2:59 PM

    it doesn’t take much does it?
    A couple of stories about Charlie Austin and he’s back to 1/3 or 1/4 with the bookies to sign for us

  • 165 WWSBRD // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:00 PM

    40k a week for Aarons? Give ur head a shake hes done nothing yet

  • 166 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:01 PM

    will die

    you don’t get the likes of city, pool and arsenal coming in if you’re not a bit special. Perez is very good too and a front 3 of perez, mitro and aarons would be fantastic.

    Sometimes you have to pay the going rate for quality. we’ve done it with the 3 new guys now let’s keep aarons, perez, kemen as well.

  • 167 TudorCrisps // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:03 PM

    Eye 40k a week thats peanuts, mitro has done nothing yet and might end up being a flop and he’s on 40k a week, he’s a whole lot better than the injury prone players we have who are on a considerable lot more than 40k a week, He’s done nothing??? he’s a constant threat when he plays you need to tie these players down simple as that

  • 168 Southern Pride // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:03 PM

    Hi guys,

    What about colback at left back?

  • 169 tequilamag // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:03 PM

    WWSBRD not strictly true mate he has played 132 mins of PL football. If that is not worth 40 to 50 k a week I don`t know what is.

  • 170 will die for the toon army // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:04 PM

    Aarons was in the team that reached the FA cup quarter final wher he shown so much. Then Pre season he was really brilliant at Cystal Palace then Man City. He was shit at QPR (May b not match fit). This Pre season he has been ok. Not that much. I still doubt he can handle e pressure. I want to see him start next time with Sissoko De Jong Wijnaldum and any striker. Coz he has been coming and playing with kids and I judge him.

    He cant NUFC he need other players to shine for him to shine.

  • 171 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:05 PM

    w

    yeah let arsenal pay him 40k a week then. what do you mean he hasn’t done anything yet. he’s done more in a fledgling career than the likes of obertan, sammi, arma etc combined. He’s 21, he’s going to be a massive star

  • 172 TudorCrisps // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:07 PM

    CORRECT

  • 173 tequilamag // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:07 PM

    RH he is 19 and was injured for most of last season. He is potential that is all. Paying him stupid money at this stage of his career is crazy.

  • 174 sweendog // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:09 PM

    will die for the toon army .. agreed .. he has potential which isn’t realised .. we should offer a good improved contact 40k a week is just silly .. more like 20k + performance stuff .. at the end of the day the better the kid is the more money he’ll get. Also he needs a team like us to push him on. Hope he signs as I do think he looks good.

  • 175 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:09 PM

    tequila

    i hear what you’re saying, albeit without the sarcasm you just couldn’t resist, but sometimes you have to pay for potential. after all isn’t that we’ve done with mitro, wijn and m’bemba.

    For those who say Aaarons has just about done ok this pre-season . WTF!! have they seen his goals and assists. wish a few others were just doing ok!!!

  • 176 sweendog // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:11 PM

    Perez is on something like 20k and that kid has ability .. hopefully this season they both push on .. if they do we’ll be doing well.

  • 177 tequilamag // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:12 PM

    RH the diff with Mitro is he has played first team football for 2years and already proved he can do it .Wimnjaldum is an international and again proven if not at PL level yet.
    WE have handed out too many cushy contracts to kids who then thought they had made it.
    He needs to earn the big money

  • 178 sweendog // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:13 PM

    Rotonda heights .. its just pre-season though. If the lad is being touted to Arsenal he needs to get rid of his agent .. this is the problem with English born players, all that ability but if they move for the money too son they’ll end up like have the English Man City boys

  • 179 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:15 PM

    what is 20 yr old mitro been paid a week. aarons is nearly 20 and arguably has more pl experience.
    In the normal course of events I don’t like seeing obscenely over paid people, especially young footballers, but i would just hate to see aarons go elsewhere is all.

  • 180 WWSBRD // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:15 PM

    Rotonda
    Arsenal arent going to pay him 40k a week, Wenger isnt a complete idiot who wastes Arsenals money

    The lad was injured all last season and is full of potential but he is far from proven, u give him 40k now what message does that send out? Armstrong, Woodman, Satka well pretty much any player showing potential will expect the same. Then u will have Perez, Haidara and the like asking for large wage increases because the club are clearly flush to give a youngster 40k a week after hes contributed very little to the club

  • 181 TudorCrisps // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:16 PM

    A think we need to do every thing we can to tie him down he could easily run his contract down and leave for free, if we sign him up the more we will get for him when the time comes for him to leave, which like every club will lose their best players eventually

  • 182 WWSBRD // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:17 PM

    Plus if he did go to Arsenal u would most likely not hear of him again they have plenty very good wingers in their reserves as is

  • 183 YoungMagpieFromBurnley // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:18 PM

    If Aarons is sold to Arsenal because he isn’t given the contract he deserves I will be well mad, one of our brightest prospects who looks better then most of our first team at just 19 years old. He won’t be with us forever but I would like to see him have at least one full season with us. The only player on our team that when he picks the ball up I expect him to do something!!

  • 184 tequilamag // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:18 PM

    RH I want to keep him as well he looks like the best prospect we have had in yeras but if he chooses to take bad advice and ends up buried in the Man City squad or Arsenal with no real clear chance of progressing like he would here then he is an idiot.

  • 185 will die for the toon army // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:18 PM

    Mitrovic and Mbemba are far better players that Aarons. Aarons isnot even worth 500k if put on sale.
    Obertan was in the team that finished 5th

  • 186 sweendog // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:18 PM

    TudorCrisps .. exactly, he should be told if you want get more first team action sign your contract, otherwise you’re on the bench .. nobody would give him 40k a week currently.

  • 187 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:20 PM

    Rotonda heights…doesn’t Mitro have International experience and 60 games or so for Anderlecht (both domestic and European)

  • 188 YoungMagpieFromBurnley // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:21 PM

    Anyone know why Aarons was released by Bristol? Maybe he has had previous antics regarding wages?

  • 189 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:21 PM

    …and scores lots of goals and is not injured more than he plays!

  • 190 Zangwill_Ho // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:24 PM

    Aaron will leave this week?

  • 191 will die for the toon army // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:25 PM

    RH

    wat PL experience does he have? Aarons hasnt played a complete season and you compare him to obertan ameobi perez

  • 192 TudorCrisps // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:27 PM

    to be fair he was injured because he was rushed back from injury in thr first place, he was outstanding against city,

    So if he not worth 40k a week to keep at this club what would you suggest? surely he’s worth more than a packets of quavers and a bag of juicy fruits…

  • 193 EllaGuru // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:28 PM

    @107 Klam3r

    And it has been for a number of seasons now. I definitely categorize Tiote in the headless chicken group! A calm head in the there and we could be on for a decent season. I think Anita can do a job, however he is just too lightweight. Fine Claude Makelele was also a slim figure, but not to the extent of Anita!

  • 194 will die for the toon army // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:29 PM

    Aarons with 20k with add ons.

  • 195 check the toastie // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:31 PM

    People who cannot see Aarons is a future star are stupid.

    End of.

  • 196 WWSBRD // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:32 PM

    Tudor
    He was good against city but even then it was a 45 minute showing

    15k is probably more than enough for what he has done and thats being generous imo

  • 197 WWSBRD // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:33 PM

    check
    Could of and has been said about plenty of players which haven’t lived up to their potential

  • 198 TudorCrisps // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:36 PM

    i agree, but when you look at the playing time he has played he has excelled, compare to sammy, obertan, gouffran, hopefully we can tie him down regardless of wages and just enjoy watching him in a newcastle shirt this season

  • 199 tequilamag // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:36 PM

    Tudor Crisps he is probably worth whatever Perez got when he signed which I would guess is around 20 K

  • 200 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:37 PM

    Now, looking at the way we do transfers, we will be incapable of working on any more until Mbemba signs, which i heard would be Thursday. So we can all probably forget about any bid reports until then. One transfer at a time. That’s the penfold way.

  • 201 will die for the toon army // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:38 PM

    We all see him as a future star get it right future star. You have to reach there first even ur wages have to increase as u improve. Aarons shld show patience.

  • 202 nut meg // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:39 PM

    4 Premier league games
    2 League cup games
    POTENTIAL ONLY GUYS !

  • 203 sweendog // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:39 PM

    EllaGuru .. that’s why I think we’re linked with Mario Lemina

  • 204 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:40 PM

    Not only was aarons a bright spark early last season, he is also the only consistently good player this pre-season. It would be insane to let him go anywhere.

  • 205 sweendog // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:40 PM

    mind you not sure he is calm, but sounds like he could be a fans favourite as he gets stuck in.

  • 206 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:41 PM

    YMFB…because of injuries!

  • 207 sweendog // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:42 PM

    YouCouldn’tMakeItUp .. I don’t think anyone wants him to leave .. but he needs to get offered a reasonable contract .. at his stage performance based .. 40k a week for someone who as played 3 good premier league games is madness.

  • 208 will die for the toon army // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:42 PM

    Aarons shld get watever Perez is getting.

  • 209 sweendog // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:45 PM

    will die for the toon army .. agreed.

  • 210 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:47 PM

    Not necesarily saying he should be on 40k like,but we should certainly be prepared to give him something extra. Add in appearance bonuses so that we are not left out of pocket if he is injured. Put in a stupid release clause to prevent the vultures circling too closely. Thatckind of thing. Other big clubs treat potential stars in the same way.

  • 211 Belfast // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:47 PM

    If it smells like bullshit it probably is bullshit……

  • 212 WLtoon // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:47 PM

    I was told mid last season that if Aarons stays fit then Arsenal will be staight in for him,and apparently he fancied the move .
    I would,nt put it past us to let him go,though i hope not.

  • 213 Ron Knee // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:52 PM

    I see Raylor has gone to Hull. Wonder if they’d take any more?

  • 214 Jib // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:52 PM

    http://sportspayroll.com/rolando-aarons-salary-newcastle-united/

  • 215 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:56 PM

    Aarons has bags of potential but has not proved anything to warrant 45k a week.

    Even the money grabber Sterling is settled for less at first, received an improved contract.

    Alot of people on here forget about the spell Sterling disappeared. That is because he went out partying and just went wild. Its why he was dropped for about half a season before being eased back in.

    Money makes kids go wild man, they have no idea what to do with it so spend it on crazy things.

    I know 20k is still alot of money, but its better offering him that then 45k.

    All Newcastle have to do is keep him away from first team and he will really lose hype around him. He will end up on a similar deal at a similar level club. As I said he has proved nothing at all.

    Potential.

    Mitrovic has done it in the CL, he has done it in Belgium and on the international level he was player of the tournament.

    Wijnaldum was in the Dutch champions team, hes played in final stages of World Cup AND he has played CL for his club.

    BIG BIG difference in terms of experience. 4 games or whatever does not push your fee up and allow you to claim you are PL proven.

    I agree with WWSBDR the guy has talent nothing more. I also agree with TFR he seems to be thinking hes bigger than he actually is.

    All this is speculation but I know I would prefer Perez over Aarons any day, Perez actually had a decent first season given he is from another country. I would give him 20k more before Aarons all day long!

    Also STaylor is not on 50k!!

  • 216 Jamseyd24 // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:57 PM

    Quite concerned that we haven’t really heard any good rumors in a while. Get the feeling we wont see many more arrivals. Pay Im wrong

  • 217 tequilamag // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:57 PM

    JIB I would doubt the figures on that site thay think Armstrong is on 48K a week

  • 218 sweendog // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:57 PM

    jib nuts when you break it down to this
    http://sportspayroll.com/newcastle-united-players-salaries/

  • 219 sweendog // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:58 PM

    Ayoze Pérez is on £1,100,000 /yr .. Aarons should be on close to that but not more.

  • 220 sweendog // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:59 PM

    mind you that same site has Sameobi on 5mill a year .. doesn’t seem right to me 🙂

  • 221 Ron Knee // Jul 27, 2015 at 3:59 PM

    “The Chronicle understands that Newcastle are working privately on other deals even though Shaqiri is one of the big names available to top-flight clubs this summer.”
    A faint flicker of hope?

  • 222 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:00 PM

    Everyone is jumping to conclusions, including myself.

    We have no idea what he wants, or the club is offering him a contract.

    Only time will tell, but he is not work 45k a week. He should be on a similar level as Perez, he has alot to prove. If he does better, the club will naturally improve his deal and the length to secure him long term.

    Can I see him in Arsenals team? No. Not a chance in hell will he see the team with likes of Sanchez around him.

  • 223 tequilamag // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:01 PM

    Sweendog, now he is definitely worth that.The most important signing of the Summer was when sammy signed the contract offer

  • 224 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:02 PM

    That site has Sammy on 5m a year LOL

    Thats near 100k a week! Rubbish!

  • 225 will die for the toon army // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:04 PM

    Ron Knee

    Read the article got disappointed but in Carr I trust.

  • 226 Belfast // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:04 PM

    Aye Jib not very reliable as Sherlock Tequila points out.

    This Aarons story is coming from the metro ? probably a load of crap.

  • 227 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:04 PM

    I would suspect its a typo, and sameobi is in 500,000.

  • 228 Slank // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:05 PM

    Aarons has shown tremendous ability and potential in the relatively few games he has played. But that in itself is not enough. He has to prove himself in a prolonged spell of Premiership and Cup games in the same way that Perez has.

    As has been mentioned he doesn’t play with a smile. This might be because he is highly focused or is his natural self or his body language is a signal to something else.

  • 229 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:05 PM

    I would take what SMc said as gospel.

    Chronic has no clue, and Ryder probably reads this blog for half of his information.

    SMc has not exactly lied about anything as of yet. He basically said he does not expect to see much activity happen in or out, but if its the “right fit” for the club they will have a look.

    I think its a soft way of saying nowt else is happening unless something is too good to walk away from.

  • 230 Ron Knee // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:06 PM

    wdftta
    We must strengthen our defence ASAP!

  • 231 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:07 PM

    Arma likewise. 250k, not 2.5M
    If you look at other comparable players (obertan on 500K and Aarons currently on 250k) its probably just typos.

  • 232 tequilamag // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:09 PM

    Belfast I know how to spot a wrongun

  • 233 WWSBRD // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:11 PM

    They may be typos but that’s at least two in our squad, raises a few doubts over a blog that claims to publish financial information

    Not exactly a creditable source for me but am a cynical sort to begin with

  • 234 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:16 PM

    Coloccini is our highest paid player at this moment in time. Or was, not sure what new boys are on as of last years signings so Colback, Janmaat etc and the new boys this year.

    Doubt any will be higher though.

    I know Jonas was on a hefty wage too and RTaylor was severely overpaid around 30 – 40k a week.

    Aarons should be on a similar wage to Perez who has shown just as much if not more potential and has played more games in not only the PL but overseas aswell which experience could not hurt.

  • 235 will die for the toon army // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:16 PM

    Ron

    I think Colo is staying, Mcclaren is going to hinge on Colo staying fit which he usually does he is naturally fit and he knows how to take care of himself. Cabella good he is back. I still have hope he will succeed he was Mcclarenz first choice before he got injured.

  • 236 JackButler // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:18 PM

    Has Captain Fantastic even kicked a ball so far in preseason???

  • 237 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:21 PM

    Still not sure why we are going for Austin (provided none of our strikers leave that is) although I wouldn’t say no .

    You would think Mitrovic is sure to be a starter after paying £13 million for the lad and provided we play with one striker that would leave :

    Cisse
    Perez
    Rivierre
    Gouffran

    Add Austin in to the mix and players are sure to get frustrated although it would be great competition for the number one striker spot in the first team .

    I do like Austin, however he had one great season last year and suddenly commands a £15 million transfer fee ? . I know Cisse gets a lot of hate on here and is getting on a bit but he is much more proven than Austin .

    His goals have kept us up for two seasons in a row and although not the best footballer in the world he knows where the goal is .

    For me I would be happy with the strikers we have now and use the money it would cost to get Austin and bring in Abdennour and maybe a left back as well .

  • 238 West Lancs Geordie // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:21 PM

    The position of needing at least two quality CBs hasn’t changed. Can’t carry sick notes Saylor & Colo AND Willo the Weak Time to off load
    Chesters from Hull isn’t the answer. Get another £10M spent on the Dutch Celtic lad Van Dyk for one at least

  • 239 will die for the toon army // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:22 PM

    http://m.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/analysis-newcastle-need-fabricio-coloccini-on-pitch-not-in-a-jesmond-pub-1-7379672

    Disappointed at Colo he wld have been at the game jst to give us support he is the club capt. I dont see wat Managers see in Colo but I dont see why he is still Captain never talks to e press
    Never commanding om pitch jst a looking good with e arm band and getting loyalties for being Capt.

  • 240 Jib // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:24 PM

    Aye I see what you mean about the site
    Freddy Woodman is on double what Colo is !!!

  • 241 West Lancs Geordie // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:24 PM

    Pleased THUSFAR with the “new” regime but still mindful there are likely to be big name departures. Don’t think for one minute the £60 M to spend is Net

  • 242 West Lancs Geordie // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:26 PM

    We still need Austin or A N Other up front in view of Cisse injury worries. Are we just keeping Riviera & Gouffy in case of need?

  • 243 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:28 PM

    Nobody agrees with the amount these people are receiving for what is at the end of the day playing a game.

    My point was I would hate to see arsenal, liverpool, city or whoever nab aarons and pay him 40K a week or whatever figure when we have saylor on allegedly 50k a week.

    If we have learnt nothing from the ashley module is that sometimes you do have to pay for quality.

  • 244 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:29 PM

    west lancs

    no one would take riv or obertan off us sadly

  • 245 pawl250 // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:29 PM

    RH

    STaylor is NOT on 50k

    He is on approx 30k/35k but with 250k loyalty bonus.

  • 246 West Lancs Geordie // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:29 PM

    Good to hear from you again Jack Butler – always good for a well thought out comment. Yes we do have far too many sick notes milking the system. I hate to think how much a match the likes of Saylor has cost us

  • 247 will die for the toon army // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:30 PM

    If Colo knew how much hope he gave me wen they read his letter for last games. It was too much hope amd we all pulled together for the last game. He might not know good english but still he shld speak to us may b he is the one givea out roles for who to speak to e media. Like he gave it to Simpson then S. Taylor and now Janmatt.

    Colo be the Captain we want u to be. CAAAAPPPPTTTTAINNNN CAVEMANNNNN.

  • 248 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:31 PM

    west lancs

    van dijk does seem a bit of a no brainer

  • 249 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:33 PM

    pawl

    hence, allegedly, but who really knows

  • 250 West Lancs Geordie // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:33 PM

    I know RH but we have far too many so called squad men who are just not good enough. Just cut the wage bill & send them on their way. Let them go to Rangers or the Mackems on frees

  • 251 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:33 PM

    Aarons is a tricky one IMO .

    We either offer him a hefty 5 year contract now after showing huge potential but nothing concrete in the past year or so .

    He then goes on to be a star similar to Sterling and we get a good few years out of him and have the lad tied down to a long contract other clubs will have to buy out

    Or

    We don’t offer him anything and looks unstoppable in the PL, runs down his contract and goes to one of the big boys for peanuts .

    One thing I would say is we have given big contracts to players with far less potential so I would personally give the lad a chance .

  • 252 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:37 PM

    aarons may just be potential but I would call wenger a pretty good judge

  • 253 West Lancs Geordie // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:38 PM

    I really don’t know why we bought the centre half from Forrest. He couldn’t play for us but couldn’t get in the Notts Forrest team. When you look back we’ve had some not too good CBs over the years who never made the grade. The days of the 4-3s are gone if we want to progress

  • 254 Jib // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:38 PM

    West Lancs
    In real terms it probably IS net spend for this simple reason .
    We don’t pay on the drip it’s up front all the way – yet when we sell ,we have to accept Championship and foreign clubs paying us on the never-never.

  • 255 will die for the toon army // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:39 PM

    Give him a 3 yr contract like one of perez

  • 256 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:42 PM

    will die

    if you can’t see aarons is in a different league to goofy, obertan, sammi etc, then I suggest you don’t apply to replace graham carr any time soon

  • 257 West Lancs Geordie // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:43 PM

    No ground gained if we don’t keep the best /potential & keep persevering with the dregs. All too long have we been selling the silver & getting worse as a result. Three bought to date look good but we must continue to strengthen not standstill. Friendlies have highlighted the problems we have at the back & we’ve played no one

  • 258 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM

    A contract for Aaron should be incentive…the more he plays the more he earns!

  • 259 bladeuser // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:45 PM

    So s mac thinks colo is one of our best players and is quoted in saying he is happy with this group of players ie willo saylor gouffy obertan etc as upto now they are still here
    good luck mac as this bunch will get u sacked
    ASHLEY OUT

  • 260 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:46 PM

    I think Lascalles will eventually come good Forrest fans were raging when he signed for us as was Pearce!

    Once Pearce was sacked the next manager brought him back in and he was playing well by the end of the season

  • 261 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:46 PM

    this 40K a week figure is being plucked out of the air for aarons. no one knows how much he has been offered, but if nufc pull the usual stunt of shooting themselves in the foot over a relatively small amount when negotiating, it will come back to bite us.

  • 262 West Lancs Geordie // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:48 PM

    No JIB- MA “promised” £60M & only just over half that has been spent to date. Alright if Austin is on his way & perhaps Dunk or Chesters then we are there but I expect someone like Sissoko to go to recoup some of it. So £60M gross at best!

  • 263 tequilamag // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:49 PM

    West Lancs when did MA promise 60 Mill ? I must have missed the memo

  • 264 West Lancs Geordie // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:49 PM

    So Lascelles will come good like Perchino did then? He’s in Division One now

  • 265 WWSBRD // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:53 PM

    Rotonda
    Is there any real proof Wenger wants Aaron’s? Quotes etc

    His agent could of spouted this story to push through bargaining with us for the contract

  • 266 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:55 PM

    Dunk would be a good call i think as someone who could step up. Not as glamorous as a Abdennour, matip, n’kolou, veltman or rutiger but has height, is good technically and seems to be a leader. Dunk and or Kongolo, lock the doors and I would be happy to go with that. Bonus if willo, saylor, possibly colo depart too.

  • 267 West Lancs Geordie // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:58 PM

    LCBP Yeah hopefully he’ll come good but Marcelino, Boumsong, Mbiwa, Helder & Dabizas never did. We’ve had some costly nuptials at Centre Back haven’t we. At least Willo the Weak only cost us about £2M I think.
    But Aarons yes a great prospect we must hold onto. Gives us another dimension

  • 268 Rotonda heights // Jul 27, 2015 at 4:58 PM

    w

    none of us have first hand proof of or are privvy to anything about any player. I’m sure like most of us you refresh newsnow every so often.

    Maybe the telegraph and guardian have more cred than the metros and daily stars though!

  • 269 WWSBRD // Jul 27, 2015 at 5:04 PM

    Rotonda
    I just ask because u used Wengers name to support ur side more than once so I was curious because the only report I’ve seen linking Aaron’s away was the metro and it ran with no quotes, wondered if I’d missed an article somewhere

    Last I saw from the Guardian was Aaron’s set to sign a new deal with us pretty soon after agreements were nears completed

  • 270 JackButler // Jul 27, 2015 at 5:04 PM

    West Lancs

    I am surprised that giving the state of our squad we have spent good money on a striker and midfielder when it’s at the back that we have the real issues.

    Sorting out a weak defence should have been the number one priority for the manager and his staff as it has been proven time and time again that the back four, especifically the central positions, we are so sort of quality and depth.

    Scoring goals for fun counts for nothing when we conceded far more than we score over the course of a season.

  • 271 West Lancs Geordie // Jul 27, 2015 at 5:07 PM

    Rotunda we seem to be on the same wavelength but we must shore things up at the back if we are to progress. What happened to interest in Douglas again. McLaren knows him but perhaps he doesn’t fancy him (if you know what I mean)

  • 272 Jib // Jul 27, 2015 at 5:09 PM

    I said about a fortnight ago that we would end up with players that The Mirror linked us with early doors , like Lewis Dunk . and lo and behold we are being linked with Hull’s Elmohamedy again (Steve Bruce thought he was called Elmo Hamedy lol )

  • 273 West Lancs Geordie // Jul 27, 2015 at 5:11 PM

    Totally agree Jack our quotes seem to have crossed but sad to say ALL Prem teams have a weakness at CB. JT is still probably the best when you look at the likes of Liverpool United & Man City. Don’t rate Demechelis & Mangala, Smalling Louvren & the foreign guy at Liverpool -poor. So we have a prblem

  • 274 JackButler // Jul 27, 2015 at 5:16 PM

    West Lancs

    Agree with that mate, but our issues at the back seem to be far greater than most other clubs, and to be fair it has been that way for as long as I can remember.

    I would happily give up on the chance of signing the likes of Austin if that money was used to bring in someone like Van Dyk from Celtic, but I would how many would prefer to see another goal scorer come here as we all know how much the NUFC fan loves a striker 😉

  • 275 Offkey // Jul 27, 2015 at 5:18 PM

    The only ‘promises’ MA made was to 1. only leave when we win something, 2. NUFC will bolt the horse to the financial cart 3. Continue the current ‘investment’ 4. if we go down, promise the investment to get us back up immediatly and we will start to make our own luck.

    Thats why Steve Mc can say he has delivered on his promises…..

  • 276 JackButler // Jul 27, 2015 at 5:19 PM

    Ryan Taylor has had a medical at Hull, good luck to the lad, always gave 100% and had a horrendous time with injuries while with us

  • 277 West Lancs Geordie // Jul 27, 2015 at 5:32 PM

    Jack my views on the big money clowns we have bought at CB over the years are well documented above. If we are serious about big names why don’t we approach Barcelona over Vermalen if only on loan for as season. I thought he was quality at Arsenal. Suppose wages would be a problem.




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