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Newcastle To Make Assessment On Whether To Sign Striker

11:12 pm, Saturday, August 1st, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 94 Comments

As we expected Northampton Town striker Ivan Toney was at St. James’ Park for the game against Borussia Monchengladbach, and it looks like he is still waiting for a decision to be made by Newcastle on whether they should sign him.

He has been on a two day trail training with the Newcastle Development squad and he will await the decision made by Newcastle.

ivan toney watched monchengladbach game

There’s Ivan Toney in the cap watching the game today

McClaren has said that Newcastle are still undecided on whether to sign Ivan Toney but that they will assess what he did in training and decide whether to sign him.

This is what McClaren told the journalists after the game:

“Northampton have allowed him to train for a couple of days. He’s done that and we will assess that.”

“He has trained with Peter Beardsley in the U21s, now we just have to sit him down and assess what we are going to do.”

It looks like Peter Beardsley will have a big say in whether Newcastle will sign Toney, and he will have seen whether he’s better than the lads already at the club.

We suppose that’s the comparison Newcastle wanted to make, by having him train with the U21s for a couple of days.

Toney has played for Northampton Town 60 times with 13 goals and 6 assists since making his debut back in 2012.

We should hear very shortly what the decision is.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Development squad · Newcastle News · Newcastle U21 · Newcastle Youth · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target

94 responses so far ↓

  • 1 John Tudor // Aug 1, 2015 at 11:15 PM

    what about a good old tonking by soton to wake the fcukers up out of their torpor

  • 2 Tsunki // Aug 1, 2015 at 11:16 PM

    Ashley Out!

  • 3 Our Toon // Aug 1, 2015 at 11:17 PM

    Have to say reading through some of the comments from today’s game made me chuckle, especially the stuff about Obertan.

    It’s common knowledge that Obertan is good in meaningless games when there is no pressure, listen to what Fergie says about him, best player in training and friendlies but gets stage fright when its competitive games. He has a mental block issue and cant perform as he’s nervous. You still get some though who think he’ll finally come good….good grief!!

  • 4 welshgeordie9 // Aug 1, 2015 at 11:23 PM

    John Tudor

    It’s a good Job you are not a manager.

  • 5 John Tudor // Aug 1, 2015 at 11:26 PM

    and you not a supporter touche

  • 6 jane // Aug 1, 2015 at 11:26 PM

    John Tudor why do you always rant? someone aptly described you earlier . . . middle-aged bitter bloke with other issues. I hope no-one has to live with you.

  • 7 John Tudor // Aug 1, 2015 at 11:27 PM

    keep your sneck out

  • 8 welshgeordie9 // Aug 1, 2015 at 11:30 PM

    I’m not a supporter, you keep telling yourself that.

  • 9 welshgeordie9 // Aug 1, 2015 at 11:33 PM

    I thought mister tuff was grumpy, i take it all back.

  • 10 Liverpool Mag // Aug 1, 2015 at 11:33 PM

    I think we’re all supporters here, John.

  • 11 John Tudor // Aug 1, 2015 at 11:39 PM

    no there are the obligatory wums nuff said

  • 12 jane // Aug 1, 2015 at 11:51 PM

    I feel sad for supporters that want their team to lose but understand it happens but it’s not nice for supporters who want their team to win to be dragged down by hearing it especially in such a brutal way it’s not surprising it gets a reaction.

  • 13 welshgeordie9 // Aug 1, 2015 at 11:58 PM

    If people want their own team to lose just to try and make a point then they are not real supporters, you should always support your team no matter how bad your team is playing.

  • 14 gonufc (Newcastle United Sports Direct Advertising Club) // Aug 2, 2015 at 12:03 AM

    If he’s James Toney’s son then I’d snap him up straight away!

  • 15 John Tudor // Aug 2, 2015 at 12:03 AM

    nobody said they wanted a loss it was merely a suggestion of a wake up call for the fat one now may i suggest you two wums go to bed now

  • 16 jane // Aug 2, 2015 at 12:09 AM

    that’s almost polite and two lines!

  • 17 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2015 at 12:13 AM

    He has been polite he’s normally more aggressive, perhaps he has changed in the last half hour.

  • 18 John Tudor // Aug 2, 2015 at 12:15 AM

    sticks and stones

  • 19 John Tudor // Aug 2, 2015 at 12:15 AM

    i will leave it to you two lovers then

  • 20 Mister Tuff // Aug 2, 2015 at 12:22 AM

    HOY fool from the valleys – get back under the bridge.

  • 21 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2015 at 12:24 AM

    I wonder if our 3 new signings will not only get the best out of our 1st team players but also our fringe players, if mitrovic played up front with riviere he might get the best out of him, I hope so I would give him another chance I think he would do well and perez, Gini will no doubt get the best out of our midfield players, and hopefully mbemba will get the best out of the three stooges, if that’s the case we wouldn’t need any more players but that’s a big if.

  • 22 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2015 at 12:27 AM

    I don’t live in the valleys and i just give you a compliment.

  • 23 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2015 at 12:28 AM

    Because you are being cheeky, Im not taking it back.

    Ha ha ha

  • 24 Pardews Priceless Bulls#*t // Aug 2, 2015 at 12:36 AM

    “Tinman // Aug 1, 2015 at 10:00 PM

    Colback 5ft 9, 165lbs
    Anita 5ft 6, 145lbs
    Tiote 5ft 11, 189lbs”

    Makélélé 5ft 7, 145.5lbs

    What was tinmans point?

  • 25 Noel Worst // Aug 2, 2015 at 12:44 AM

    Neggers OUT!

  • 26 lesh // Aug 2, 2015 at 1:00 AM

    Steve McClaren…….”So yeah the speculation is the speculation, there has been no official approach by anybody or anyone. I hope Colo will be training with us on Tuesday.”

    Colo away next week?

  • 27 Our Toon // Aug 2, 2015 at 1:05 AM


    I honestly can’t see Colo leaving this season unless it’s a move to Argentina. It just wouldn’t make sense for a player who’s desperate to get back to his family to move to London…..unless his missus amd kids will be happier there than up north with us.

    To the WUMS, the comment from tudor was to give Ashley a wake up call!!

  • 28 doofa the loofa // Aug 2, 2015 at 1:10 AM

    Tudor out..

  • 29 doofa the loofa // Aug 2, 2015 at 1:11 AM

    Wake up calls for Mike out…

  • 30 Our Toon // Aug 2, 2015 at 1:13 AM


    How about Ashley out!!

    29 days to get in much needed CB, FB, winger and DM

  • 31 jamesnufc86 // Aug 2, 2015 at 1:17 AM

    Our Toon, I was vigorously sticking up for squidward today because I believe he has all the ingredients to be a very good player. Stage fright as you say is a psychological issue which can be cured. It’s difficult to cure stage freight when you are jeered at every little mistake you make, of course your self-esteem and confidence will crumble, that’s natural, that’s human. Cisse makes mistake after mistake after mistake, can’t do ANYTHING apart be positional aware but he gets away with it because he scores. I would argue that Cisse is liable for breaking down our attacking threats the majority of the time. Obertan at least contributes to the attacking threat with his pace and agility. So by that logic I would rather have Obertan start than Cisse

  • 32 doofa the loofa // Aug 2, 2015 at 1:18 AM

    Patience in…
    Impatience out…

  • 33 Mister Tuff // Aug 2, 2015 at 1:36 AM

    Obertron supporters……………………..OOT
    other knackers…………………………….OOT
    Mr T supporters………………………….IN
    Ol Permed Hair supporters……………..OOT

    Recent posters of dubious antecendents …….OOT.

  • 34 Mister Tuff // Aug 2, 2015 at 1:37 AM

    antecendents =antecedents

  • 35 123 Dummet Time // Aug 2, 2015 at 2:10 AM


    Never happen x

  • 36 chasing_rabbits // Aug 2, 2015 at 2:16 AM

    I really wish there had been some truth in the Shaqiri rumours… Nkoulou would be a good shout too! I would have to try & find room for de Jong in that line up though

  • 37 expatmag // Aug 2, 2015 at 2:43 AM

    I was looking at McLarens comments about his preferred 18 to 20 players and came up with this

    Krul, Darlow, Janmaat, Colo, Mbemba, Dummett, Haidara, Anita, Colback, Taylor, Sissoko, Wijnaldum, De Jong, Cabella, Perez, Cisse, Mitrovic, Aarons, Riviere, Elliott

    Lascelles, Bigirirama, Woodman, Satka, Armstrong, Ameobi, Good, Toney etc…….development and back up or loaned out

    Tiote, Gouffran, Marveaux, Williamson, Obertan, Ferguson……..surplus to requirements

  • 38 Bobbybee // Aug 2, 2015 at 3:05 AM

    I reckon, as Macca keeps saying, that if the RIGHT players become available, we will sign them. Clearly he very sensibly doesn’t wish to commit either way, because it leaves him wide open either way. This is better communication than we’ve had recently. It’s also abundantly clear he is is own man and not ‘owned’ by Ashley. His integrity, like most mens, is important to him. The idea of him conspiring with Ashley is, quite frankly, bordering on lunacy. A wealthy man in his own right who could retire tomorrow if he chose to. His work in getting his new footballing philosophy across is working well. It cost £15 to watch today and despite the result, I felt it well spent. From the last few seasons, the football was unrecognisable and will only improve with time. The introduction of the subs – all potential starters next week – stepped it up further. Yes, we still need a cb and out and out winger, but the window’s not shut yet and nothing is ruled out. A team that tries? Boxes ticked. The corner has been turned – now to build on it. Give the man a chance I say.

  • 39 Our Toon // Aug 2, 2015 at 3:10 AM


    It’s been 9 years….how much more patience do you want? Did Ashley takeover the club in June 2015

  • 40 Magpie Season // Aug 2, 2015 at 3:11 AM


    Who is squidward?

    With Cisse, he thrived under a 4-3-3 when he was in the middle & Ba & Ben Arfa either side.

    Hasn’t done as well as a lone striker playing the 90mins but impacted well coming off the bench.

    People talk about Real Madrid BBC of Bale, Benzema & Cristiano Ronaldo, we had our own BBC of Ba, Ben Arfa & Cisse!

  • 41 Magpie Season // Aug 2, 2015 at 3:13 AM

    Anyone noticed how Spurs have done exceedingly well in shifting out their deadwood of players; & getting good value for money?

  • 42 lesh // Aug 2, 2015 at 3:14 AM


    Positive yet considered comments?

    Positive yet considered comments – oot!

    Oot? What?

    Positive yet considered comments in!!

  • 43 Our Toon // Aug 2, 2015 at 3:17 AM

    James nufc

    Yes it’s a psychological issue with Obertan, something no one has managed to help him get over in his career and no one ever will help him get over it. As for Cisse his jib is to score goals….he does that. Obertan can’t even cross a ball, wheb he does cross he can’t get it 2 inches off the ground. Worst of all he doesn’t look to pick someone out he just puts a ball in and hopes for the best.

    Obertan’s job is to provide assists, create goalscoring opportunities, he’s utterly shite at this. His ability is wasted, he’s got alot of pace but refuses to use it, think Keith Gillespie, head down taking on full back and crossing. Obertan 2 steps forward stop pass it back if he doesn’t trip over the ball!!

  • 44 Our Toon // Aug 2, 2015 at 3:18 AM


    Squidward is obertan

  • 45 Magpie Season // Aug 2, 2015 at 3:23 AM

    Our Toon,

    3 players in open space with only the goalkeeper remaining. Obertan drives it forward & looks to pass to a teammate for a an open goal tap in &….squares it straight into the keepers gloves!

    Forgot what team it was against, Stoke I think?

  • 46 Bobbybee // Aug 2, 2015 at 3:24 AM

    Our toon, obviously he didn’t, but that’s when Macca came in and started communication with us. Nobody is going to suddenly trust lardass overnight, but changes are afoot and all for the better. The football today was a pleasure to watch for a change and the movement off the ball has never been better. (Not sure if that came across on tv because they quite rightly follow the ball). All three signings look a fit for the PL and two more astute signings could really get us flying. Cathco’s influence is also showing. We matched and bettered at times a good CL side today and really deserved to win – although the result was neither here nor there. I honestly can’t see us anywhere near a relegation battle this season and fancy us to achieve the aim of a top eight finish

  • 47 Magpie Season // Aug 2, 2015 at 3:25 AM

    Our Toon,

    Thanks mate just realised lol the resemblance is there.

  • 48 Bobbybee // Aug 2, 2015 at 3:29 AM

    Our toon ‘wheb he does cross…’ bad cold there marra! 🙂

  • 49 Magpie Season // Aug 2, 2015 at 3:29 AM


    If you would like to die today buy laughing so hard then please do not read the first comment.

  • 50 Bobbybee // Aug 2, 2015 at 3:32 AM

    Magpie season. Actually, on his home planet, obertan is considered quite a catch. 😉

  • 51 Bobbybee // Aug 2, 2015 at 3:40 AM

    Magpie, just watched that. Even in a selective – very selective – video compilation of his, er skills (?), they still struggled to find any end product!! Nuff said on that I reckon 🙂

  • 52 Magpie Season // Aug 2, 2015 at 3:44 AM


    We have the ugliest squad in the Premier League according to this:

    Although this is from last season.

  • 53 Magpie Season // Aug 2, 2015 at 3:45 AM

  • 54 Our Toon // Aug 2, 2015 at 3:51 AM

    Bobby bee

    Ahahaha “wheb” I do that alot with my fat thumb….constantly on the go. No one will trust Ashley immediately but from what he’s said and what’s been delivered so far in the transfer market we are woefully short of what he promised in my opinion. I’ve always said this isn’t a quick fix mate but it’s going to need more than 3 key signings with a couple of youth signings.

    I know the window isn’t closed but we’ve pissed about during the summer, we struggle to conclude more than 1 deal at any given time, Mbemba and Mitrovic should have been bought in weeks earlier so they’d make the trip to the States. We faffed about with Mitrovic….turns out we hadn’t agreed the fee and that’s what delayed the move, Mbemba should have been bought in immediately.

    Don’t get me wrong I’m over the moon at the quality of players that we’ve signed but we go into the opening game without the CB which was needed and possibly with Mitrovic on the bench….as these 2 haven’t had game time. Old habits are still there at the negotiating table, lack of quality still there within squad. So far we’ve done the absolute bare minimum in the transfer market

  • 55 Bobbybee // Aug 2, 2015 at 3:53 AM

    They would say that, they’re not allowed in as reporters 😉 That said, what a totally pointless article! More suited to the sun than an aledgedly serious newspaper. Emergency toilet paper at best mate. 🙂

  • 56 Our Toon // Aug 2, 2015 at 3:53 AM

    Magpie season

    Players like obertan, Cabella etc should be judged on end product….which unfortunately is utter rubbish rather than other attributes which they barely use

  • 57 Bobbybee // Aug 2, 2015 at 4:10 AM

    Our toon, agree totally that chumlee needs lessons in speeding up negotiations. Then again, he was fighting off serious competition from CL sides and we had just survived by the skin of our teeth. Still think there’s more to come in though, so I’m reserving judgement until september 2nd. Let’s be honest, the whole pre season was a farce from start to finish, with too much travelling and plastic pitches? Mbemba has a decent pre season with Anderlecht, so comes in fit. He looked good today when he came on. Think they played him at right back so he’d have to work harder. Wouldn’t be surprised to see them all start. Might not last the full 90, but we’ll know that next week. Cliche or not, de jong and Aarons really are like two new quality signings and both made an impact. Just give it time matey, i think we all might be pleasantly surprised. Just the change in philosophy makes for a massive improvement football wise and Anita looks a different player. Even if we just bring in another cb, or Collo gets fit even as a better cb than willo and taylor, we’ll still surprise teams expecting last seasons dross. 🙂

  • 58 Magpie Season // Aug 2, 2015 at 4:21 AM

    Our Toon,

    I posted this on another article but since Ed made a new one the comments got passed on.


    I really think Cabella will have a good season. He wants to make the Euros. He also knows he can make the Euros if he performs. The form he had at Montepellier got him into the World Cup squad. He will want a taste of another major international tournament.

    If he replicates 80% of that in the EPL he could make it. There are places up for grabs in the France squad.

    Their starting midfield is what:

    Matuidi, Cabaye, Griezemann, Ribery?

    If one of those are injured or suspended they really lack in the wide midfield. Centrally they have good reserves though.

    As for Riviere, I have no hopes for him.

  • 59 Bobbybee // Aug 2, 2015 at 4:22 AM

    Well, I’m up early in the morning so…. sheeet, it is morning ffs. Doesn’t time fly when your on here? Better get a couple of hours shut eye i reckon, so I wish you night owls a fond farewell. Take care out there! 😉

  • 60 Jack // Aug 2, 2015 at 4:33 AM

    Team vs Southampton:

    Vuckic——-De Jong—-Marveaux


    No place for Cabella, Rivière, Gouffran, Obertan, Williamson. The usual suspects.

  • 61 chasing_rabbits // Aug 2, 2015 at 4:46 AM


    Vuckic & Marveaux in place of Aarons & Perez / Sissoko… Are you sure?!

    I agree with Magpie Season, Cabella will have a good season. I was genuinely excited by him coming last summer, disappointed with his first season, but no more than he was himself I’m sure! But I’m backing him to take his chance this season, he knows he’s got a lot to prove, and he’s certainly got the ability to do so.

    Agree there is no place for Riviere, Gouffran, Obertan & Williamson in the squad. They need to go, quickly! And minimum 1 CB to come in, 2 if Colo goes. I would also go for another forward, but perhaps not Austin, unless McClaren is planning on playing 2 up top. £15m is alot for somebody to share bench warming duties. Midfield is probably sorted for now provided Sissoko doesn’t go, especially if he does opt for 2 strikers.

  • 62 jimmysmith // Aug 2, 2015 at 6:18 AM

    Collocini, Willo, Taylor, Obertan, Rivierre, Marv, Vuckic, a long list of players, would be allowed to leave, if the right offer came in, and in most cases a replacement could be brought in. Weve signed three good young players to replace three whose contracts and loan had run down. Its not easy to get a player out and an upgrade lined up and brought in. We might have room in the squad for Austin, and wed stand a reasonable chance of shifting Cisse because of previous interest, but its likely this is our squad for the first part of the season.

  • 63 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 2, 2015 at 6:58 AM

    I do fear this is it though I had hoped we would sign 3 to 4 more first team players!

    Individually it’s some good players we have signed – I think most of us is pleased with that, but collectively it’s still as bad as it was before. These three players are going to change much.

    Injuries in key positions and bad form will take its toll and with McC displaying the same traits as Pardew he’ll most likely stick to a core and when injuries hit he’ll find it difficult to make adjustments.

    There’s alot of similarities between the two actually (not that Jib Slank would know) but the obvious but also statistically!

    Will be an interesting season non the less though I would have wanted it to be with a very different manager!

  • 64 Reyantoon // Aug 2, 2015 at 6:59 AM

    Not sure how open European clubs want to sell their players when the serious business has only one week away.Seems difficult.
    I have a feeling coloccini may leave.The question is who will replace him?
    I have impressed by the first look of Mbemba yesterday.He looked strong and calm.Wijnaldum looks like a player who usually likes to move forward and attack-get in the oppo penalty area and want to do something.However,’d prefer him to play deep in the mf,like cabaye.Mitrovic looked hungry.Big lad and strong.He needs service on the wings.Im sure when cabella gets fit,with wijnaldum,de jong and sissoko around him,he will bang them like Shearer!

  • 65 The overrated Frenchman // Aug 2, 2015 at 7:10 AM

    With the pre-season over there’s no now reason that McLaren shouldn’t be able to put a cross against the names of those he doesn’t want. Then it’s the job of Charney and co. to get rid of them. Sell them for whatever you can get. Pay out their contracts. Hell, just give them away if we have to. If the mantra is going to be “make our own luck” then surely this is a good place to start. Not that it will happen if course.

  • 66 Reyantoon // Aug 2, 2015 at 7:11 AM

    Greetings Jesper…it seems u still haven’t moved on from the previous coaching set up.Absolutely not the time to fuss about if this mgr -that mgr get appointed,we would have been this,that…
    Move on man.Just enjoy when the lads play-week in,week out!

  • 67 will die for the toon army // Aug 2, 2015 at 7:12 AM

    Albert has jst said Mitrovic and Mbemba give 100% in games which we need in young players. Wijnaldum is class and every one sees it.

    The other plus is that we kept our best players from last season Sissoko Perez Colback Jannmmatt Cisse Colo Durmett Taylor Krul.

    Aarons and De Jong are back and might b off pace but look very good.

    Willo might b poor but he is good back up it isnt his problem that Mbiwa failed in EPL and Tayloris Injury prone. So he had ti have more minutes than expected.

    I think we have a good squad we jst have to trust Mcclaren to get e best out of it.

  • 68 The overrated Frenchman // Aug 2, 2015 at 7:19 AM

    I love your posts, will die. “Jannmmatt” – that’s mint.

  • 69 Ron Knee // Aug 2, 2015 at 7:30 AM

    Serious question: What do you understand by “Make our own luck”? It seems meaningless to me.

  • 70 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 2, 2015 at 7:33 AM

    Will Die for,
    Just a few threads ago you said Sissoko was poor and you would sell him if someone bid £12mllion. Now you are happy we kept him?

    Anyway, another friendly defeat is irrelevant. I would have liked to see the team that will play against Saints next week start the game yesterday, but I hope that we don’t now! There are still glaring holes in the team and squad but it seems increasingly likely we have what we have. Not the end of the world, but another couple in this window would have been a big boost. It still might happen, we shall see.

    The problem with building the squad over 3 windows – the more I hear from McClaren the more it sounds like 3 summer windows – is that if one or two of our players do well, we will have a decent season, but not challenge for the top 4/5/6 at the minute. This makes the key players in our side targets for the teams that are regularly playing Champions League, so we are morse vulnerable to losing them, and setting the building work back.

    Ideally we would have got enough in to push for the top 6, which gives us a fighting chance of keeping them. Still not guaranteed, but progress like that coupled with the promise of further additions at a good level could persuade people to stay longer.

  • 71 Belfast // Aug 2, 2015 at 7:35 AM

    Cheer up Jesper Fungusfeet!

  • 72 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 2, 2015 at 7:37 AM

    To me the phrase ‘make our own luck’ would almost mean that you are taking luck out of the equation and doing everything in your power to get what you are trying to do done.

    Like when managers say, ‘you make your own luck in football’ they are more often than not referring to hard work on the training pitch – which essentially reduces the luck element.

  • 73 Take a Chancel on me // Aug 2, 2015 at 7:42 AM

    Hey guys its TFL I updated to windows 10 and lost everything hope we are all well this morning

  • 74 Ron Knee // Aug 2, 2015 at 7:44 AM

    But you don’t help the situation by not repairing a leaky defence!!!
    Where do you stand on the great Obertan debate?

  • 75 Belfast // Aug 2, 2015 at 7:46 AM

    Ron Knee his whole speech was meaningless. Making your own luck could mean anything. We might have made our own luck already with 3 signings.

  • 76 will die for the toon army // Aug 2, 2015 at 7:49 AM

    Lilongwe Geordie

    Sissoko was our beat player last season and he is still one of those. He is jst failing to adjust to the way we play amd he looks like a headless chicken.

    If some one had told me we were going to sign
    3 players and keep wat he had last season I wld take it. Now our greed is over running ou judgment. We have made an improvement in this window.

    Mcclaren has said three windows whic is realistic we are not going to become a top team in one transfer window.

  • 77 Ron Knee // Aug 2, 2015 at 7:50 AM

    I agree. It was PR bullsh*t from a desperate man.

    If we only make three signings this season will be as painful as the last.

  • 78 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 2, 2015 at 7:51 AM

    I wasn’t saying that Newcastle had fulfilled the statement to ‘make their own luck’, just commenting on how I interpret the phrase. I don’t think they have. I think 2 more first team quality signings would probably do it, but don’t see it happening. Plus getting rid of some of those that are not good enough. If nobody is interested in them, pay up their contracts. Allow them to move with no fee being charged. If they did that, it would be a better demonstration of making their own luck.

    The great Obertan debate? I wasn’t aware it was a debate. He should have been a track runner, not a professional footballer. He has done little during his time here, and I can’t see that changing. I don’t see us managing to sell him though.

  • 79 Ron Knee // Aug 2, 2015 at 7:59 AM

    You’re right. Obertan has missed his vocation! & I wasn’t contradicting what you said on the number of signings needed.

    I’ve been very impressed so far by GW.

  • 80 will die for the toon army // Aug 2, 2015 at 8:01 AM

    Ron Knee
    If we make 3 signings, keep our beat players from last year. Make something out Aarons and De Jong. Cabella and Rivere are improved. We will b better than last year.

    TOP 10 I propose.

  • 81 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 2, 2015 at 8:02 AM

    Will Die for,
    More than 3 signings is being greedy? You wanted 5 just a week or two ago, and were demanding 2 more as recently as Friday!! You even said we MUST sign a centre half. How is more than 3 now being greedy?

    3 windows is likely to mean three summers. He keeps talking about the right players, and the club always want the right price. If we are also looking to bring in a high level of player, then we can pretty much rule out much business in January, not to mention the club have said they don’t like doing business in the January window.

    Sufficient improvement has to be made this season to persuade players to stay next, and to attract a higher level of player. A build over three seasons is fine, but it needs to start off on a solid foundation. We don’t have that in place as of yet.

  • 82 Ron Knee // Aug 2, 2015 at 8:04 AM

    A lot of big “ifs” there, mate!

  • 83 Ron Knee // Aug 2, 2015 at 8:08 AM

    PS Are you happy with Williamson and Taylor?

  • 84 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 2, 2015 at 8:08 AM

    Wijnaldum looks good, although if you go back a year, Rivi scored goals in pre season, and people were saying he looked good…. I think Gini will be a good buy for us, once the side settle into a style of play and personnel. This should have been happening through pre season, but whoever arranged pre season made a complete mess of it. Not to mention the slow pace of our transfers.

    The start is going to be difficult, especially given the lack of playing time together for some, but we have to hope something clicks quickly, and we can get through the first 7 or 8 games in a reasonable fashion and build from there.

  • 85 will die for the toon army // Aug 2, 2015 at 8:10 AM

    Lilongwe Geordie

    Foundation is there. We are financially stable, the back room staff, we have players of an average age of 24.5.

    I think we shld control our expectations.

  • 86 check the toastie // Aug 2, 2015 at 8:12 AM

    Took in the game yesterday from the post seats.

    Player Report

    Krul – Krul is Krul, decent, distribution was better.
    Janmaat – Top Class player, more ambitious clubs will be sniffing.
    Willa – Terrifies me,
    Saylor – decent first half, rash second. Comfortable on ball and brave in possession but bit fat.
    Hairdara – had a bit of a nightmare, needs to be more decisive, needs competition. Santon was better.
    Anita – ok, just don’t think he does quite enough.
    Colback – worked hard, needs to be disciplined
    Sissoko – needs to give his head a shake and get involved, poor currently.
    Winaldo – gunna be a class act, bit lost first half, better second when subs arrived.
    Obertan – played Ok but no end product after decent work. Shame really.
    Cisse – Poor, so much breaks down when the ball goes into him, snatching at chances as well, should be sold and replaced with Austin.

    Subs –
    Mbemba – the boys going to be immense, just oozes edge, ability and class. Needs to start against Soton, he’s our No1 already.
    De Jong – such a clever player, needs to play 10, and Winaldo dropped into attacking midfielder ala Rob Lee.
    Mitrovic – looks the real deal, strong positive and technical. Bit unfit currently mind.
    Perez- little cracker, a real asset.
    Aarons – offers a real threat, must be in front of Iberian surely.

    Long way to go before we are a ‘team’ but signs were there when subs came on, we may be canny to watch in time, shame season doesn’t start three weeks from now, just playing catch up as Steve Mac pointed out.

    Big ask against Southampton mind and very concerned about first four games. We seem half baked.

  • 87 Ron Knee // Aug 2, 2015 at 8:15 AM

    GW has skill, intelligence and confidence so your comparison with Rivière shouldn’t apply (I hope).

    On the ill-conceived pre-season: This is par for the course for NUFC management.

  • 88 hibbit // Aug 2, 2015 at 8:16 AM

    lilongwe that seems to be the trouble with a lot of players just not good enough but it seems we carn’t move them or they wont move last big pay day for some i think…..oberton a footballer never……. its the back 4 that is my worry the full backs need cover the 3 first choice cb are to me the main problem i know we have 1 coming in but he never kicked a ball in the prem… colo is in hiding….. 10 game taylor is a sick note liability.. willo well willo is willo just not good enough…..just the as same as last season prem teams must rub there hands when they play us with that back 4

  • 89 hibbit // Aug 2, 2015 at 8:20 AM

    ron…… the only thing about the pre season it was all in place before Mc got the job……carver was the one who ok it……

  • 90 Jib // Aug 2, 2015 at 8:23 AM

    I don’t expecrt us to be knocking doors out of windows as an away team anytime soon.
    A return to fortress St James in fairly short order would be nice.
    For this season ,consolidation in the league and a couple of exciting cup runs wold suffice

  • 91 check the toastie // Aug 2, 2015 at 8:25 AM

    Wouldn’t be surprised to see Haidara dropped, Janmaatt go to left back and Mbemba play RB, the kid is a bit reckless, desperately need some back up to him, personally would stick Anita there.

    Team for Southampton

    —-Sissoko————De Jong—— Aarons———

    That’s our best team for me, Perez putting pressure on all front positions, mostly a disinterested Sissoko.

  • 92 The overrated Frenchman // Aug 2, 2015 at 8:25 AM

    Ron@69 – (that sounds the the title of a porn film!) . I went into a diatribe on a previous thread about this. Basically as I see it the only way you can take it is this. To “make your own luck” in the PL of today you have to buy it. i.e. spend enough money to have a squad that can compete. OK, you might be able to improve with better coaches etc. but there’s an element of luck to that, surely. Spend the money, build the squad, and the points will come. You don’t need to be lucky that way, do you? Three new players into a squad that was quite frankly deserving of relegation is not going to re-invent the wheel. (Although we have a cart, apparently)

  • 93 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 2, 2015 at 8:25 AM

    Was at yesterdays game
    my thoughts we did OK
    but taught a lesson on passing and moving off the ball/finding space.
    McLaren has to work on his starting eleven next week and where to put/position players
    Starting with defence – he cannot partner Taylor ‘The Octopus’ and Mike Williamson a disaster waiting to happen – to slow and get turned to easy and when players run at them ain’t got a clue what to do.
    yesterday Mbemba came on and played more of a right midfield player (looked good though)
    Defence: Janmaat, Mbemba, Taylor, Haidara – short on defenders need to bring in at least two class defenders brfore close of window
    Midfield I would go with four
    Wijnaldum, Anita, Sissoko, Colback,
    Attack: after watching yesterday I would start Mitrovic up front with Perez and De Jong – there link up pay looked good and one move should of led to a goal.

    I think we will do all-right this season but we have to get behind the team as the first eight games are going to be hard and we could easily be in the bottom three

  • 94 OneAlanShearer // Aug 2, 2015 at 8:31 AM

    I suggested 4141 would be our best formation to suit our best players. However thinking about it. At home I would perhaps go 352. We have the attacking options. I would slot Janmaat, Mbemba and any if the other cb’s into the back 3.
    Sissoko mitrovic colback sdj aarons
    With a front 2 of perez/cisse mitrovic.

    Mouth watering attack. Go all out attack. The pace and power and passing in that lot would be pretty impressive.

    The down side to this all is outside of that we have nothing much else available.

    I truly hope we do keep signing players. We are incredibly fragile.

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