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Newcastle’s Simple New Strategy – Score Lots Of Goals

9:58 am, Friday, August 14th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 144 Comments

We’ve seen Newcastle try to play good attacking football since Steve McClaren took over the side, and his appointment no doubt helped to attract good players like Wijnaldum, Mitrovic and Mbemba to the club this summer.

McClaren’s philosophy is to play the ball from defense into attack quickly, as we saw when Newcastle scored the second goal on Sunday, with Cisse playing the ball quickly forward to Gabby Obertan, who put in a terrific right wing cross for Wijnaldum to brilliantly head the ball home – that was an excellent goal from Newcastle.

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McClaren and Simpson on Sunday

Assistant coach Paul Simpson was doing some of the interview duties yesterday, as Steve McClaren was in Stockton celebrating his son Josh getting 4 A levels, and qualifying to go to Northumbria University in Newcastle to study psychology starting soon.

Paul Simpson  talked about how Newcastle want to play under McClaren:

“We’ve got some very, very talented players. The philosophy will be to play football.” “We don’t want to take stupid risks, but if it’s on to play, we want to play.”

“We also want to attack, and when we get in that final third, we don’t want to be pretty-pretty, tappy-tappy football.”

“We need to get balls in the box, get bodies in the box and score goals.” “We prided ourselves on the work we did at Derby County when we were very high scorers in the division in both seasons.”

“We’ve got to try to rise to that challenge at this next level in the Premier League, which is going to be tough.”

“But we’ve got to be in a position where we can get enough goals to achieve what we want to do this season.”

“The players have been superb – absolutely fantastic.” “They’re coming in with a smile on their face and doing everything we’ve asked of them.”

“At the end of the season when we missed out on the play-offs at Derby, it was difficult.” “Then all of a sudden things changed.” “Steve lost his job and we came into here.

“It’s a great opportunity. We’re going to do everything we can to make it a success.”

It seems that the strategy is to get forward quickly from defense, and when we get in the box not to mess around (like a certain team in London who play in red and white often do),  but to get the ball in the back of the net as quickly as possible.

If we can get a good defense together, and we can also start to score some goals we should do quite well this season.

That’s the hope.

Howay The Lads!!

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  • 1 one fine day // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Jesus. Who voted for a win ?
    I am going/ draw 1.1
    Please give Perez sand Aaron’s a half each
    Swansea are well set up organised but genuine pace will be our best chance

  • 2 Jail for Ashley // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Ashley Out!

  • 3 jimmysmith // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:07 AM


  • 4 pawl250 // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    Ok have not posted all week, mainly due to the office internet in my workplace being down, and truth be told I have more important things to do in my personal time now I have a 8 month old bairn……

    That said. Sunday. I was actually at the match watched it all unfold. This is what I took away from it.

    Anita – This guy has really improved and impressed me, even against opposition towards the end of last season he was one of our better players. I do not think he was given a fair crack of whip when Pardew was manager but if he plays like he did Sunday he will be a great player for us this season. Early days though, we all know some players can have a few good matches so lets wait and see if he can consistently keep the level of performance up for us.

    I do think the game changed when he left the pitch, which brings me to my next point – Tiote, who was simply AWFUL. It had nothing to do with match fitness, he was just so poor. It was the basics he was poor at. His passing was shocking, he was charging out of position leaving gaps in our midfield for Southampton to exploit. Going the other way, he was equally as bad, if not worse. He slowed the general play down, not passing the ball first time and in doing so made it difficult for players that were introduced later (De Jong, Mitrovic) to even get into the game. He was our worst player by far on Sunday, which says something.

    Mbemba looked solid (even when he was not fully match fit – Hibbit) and Coloccini did well until final stages when maybe he should have left the pitch for Taylor if he could not handle the pace, which is understandable given the amount of game time in pre season. Yet as I said before the game, only way to get match fit is to play games, so he would have only benefited from a full 90 mins. I would happily see our season with Mbemba and Colo at the back, they seemed solid enough, apart from the 1st goal. Lets be realistic though, it was their first game as a partnership so hopefully that will only improve with time. We do look a tad weak in the air, but not many teams have the height Southampton do in and around the box and we managed to cope.

    Haidara, ok the first half he was awful, UNTIL his assist. He did grow into the game and I think he was one of our better players going on towards the end of the match. Hopefully he has more games based on his 2nd half opposed to his first half.

    Obertan. Seriously not sure how this guy made it in our team. He is lazy, he cannot pass, despite the goal assist which in fairness was a great cross, but lets be honest his ball contention was awful. He did seem to put more effort it but compared to Sissoko on the opposite wing Southampton were happy for us to play it down whichever side Obertan was on. He has blistering pace and he simply will not use it, only when he was actually forced to use it with Cisses ball infront of him it was effective. When he has the ball to his feet he is such a poor dribbler that all the pace is ineffective and rendered pointless. Certainly someone I would change for our next game, especially with his defensive duties, Swansea will have a field day.

    As for the team itself, we played well and at times looked the better team, playing passing football aswell. If McClaren continues this way he will win alot of supporters over from the past hoof ball tactics. I do think we could do with a couple more signings, but ultimately I am optimistic for the new season, based on 1 game. Please note I am basing it off one competitive game and this could all change this weekend, but we did look like a solid unit for a change.

    My team for Swansea would be:-

    Janmaat – Mbemba – Coloccini – Haidara
    Sissoko – Wijnaldum – Anita – Colback – Aarons

    Darlow, Taylor, Dummett, Cabella, De Jong, Perez, Mitrovic

  • 5 will die for the toon army // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    I dont think Aarons and Perez are playing. Its going to be a defensive game.
    Tiote, De Jong and Mitrovic to come on.

  • 6 Jail for Ashley // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    Have another one !

  • 7 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    will die
    McLaren the new Keegan…
    I don’t think we will defend – because we don’t have the players to defend.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if we start with the same team as last week if all fit.

  • 8 midweek weekend // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    So true I can see a very high scoring game definitely one for both teams to score, just hopefully we get the result, difficult game no question

  • 9 Moonraker15 // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    Haha Dwight Gayle has been Pardew’d. First of many I would think!

  • 10 toonincheek // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Jail –

    toonbother has changed the bet into the “first five games”, not the next five.
    So I think Watford is not included?

  • 11 pawl250 // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Will die for Toon –

    You are probably right, the selection is my opinion. I personally think we will either lose or draw this weekend as I do actually think Swansea are the contenders to the top 6-7, like Southampton were last year.

    That said I put offensive players on the bench as we will most likely be chasing the game. I hope I am wrong.

    I also lost alot of confidence in Tiote. I just do not think he is suited to our style of play under SM. He is too much of a bull, rushing into the opposing players and leaves our defense with holes right infront of them. Anita had the level head and discipline to sit back and create more protection for our defence.

    If you had not noticed, we were playing very similar to how Liverpool play under Rogers. Coloccini and Mbemba were moving out wide and Anita was sitting in the middle at the back taking the ball and playing it out. Tiote did not fill that role when he came on, and I honestly think he allowed Southampton to move up the pitch and create the pressure leading to the second goal.

    If you asked me at the start of the season I would have snapped your hand off to take 2 points in 2 games, given it was Southampton and Swansea. Our first games always looked difficult on paper, hopefully the lads surprise us with more points, and more performances like last week were we actually played the ball on the deck and looked somewhat dangerous going forward.

  • 12 one fine day // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Err what you said
    Rare I read through a whole post and find nothing yo disagree with .
    Unlike like you I watched on fox sports in Australia. But same conclusions .
    Amazing though how anyone I talk to here ( Liverpool , arsenal even chelsea fans) really still rate tiote ….
    If only I was in control of transfers I’d feel I was selling them a touchscreen but charging for a Maserati
    Anita is a key this season yo think how he was almost finished under Pardue is criminal

  • 13 one fine day // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Spell correct how the f@@k does Mazda translate to touchscreen?

  • 14 anthc // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    Interesting that Dwight gayle is up for grabs. I remember that lad causing us all sorts of problems with his pace and I’m sure he notched against us. Personally I would take a punt on him he’s better than obertan and scores goals in a poor palace team.

  • 15 will die for the toon army // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    My team for Swansea:
    Darlow, Taylor, Tiote, Perez, Obertan, De Jong, Mitrovic

  • 16 one fine day // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:28 AM


    Oh toonbrother he’s the love of life,
    Oh toonbrother did he shag your wife?
    Oh toon brother do you want curly hair toooooo?
    Oh toon brother he’s the love of your life …. Repeat until bored

  • 17 pawl250 // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    One Fine Day

    Tiote for me has always been average since maybe his second season onwards. He had a great first season when he kept everything simple and was disciplined to an extent to protect the back four. Really he went downhill after his Arsenal equalising goal.

    Now he likes to receive the ball and hold it. He then warrants unnecessary pressure and starts spinning in circles hoping his strength will prevail. He ALWAYS (if he is on the pitch long enough) has a long range shot wasting possession trying to relive that moment.

    He is too slow, he is injury prone, red card prone, he goes to the AFCN to seemingly sit on the bench these days, his passing is not great and he leaves our defence unprotected by charging around like a bull in a china shop.

    I think the best word for Tiote is – average. At best.

    If we managed to sell him for the quoted 8m-10m we were reading earlier in the window I would snap whoevers hand off and see him on his way. I mean the talk of him going to Arsenal is laughable, as you actually have to know how to pass to even be looked at.

    I was slated this time last year saying he would be welcome to leave. Very Overrated.

  • 18 jamesnufc86 // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:31 AM


    Colback ——- Sissoko

    Wijnaldum———-De Jong————–Aarons


  • 19 pawl250 // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:32 AM

    Will Die

    I picked the same team (starting 11), without the fancy formation.

    4-5-1 could easily move into 4-2-3-1, and arguably would play like that anyway.

  • 20 cyprus // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:35 AM

    How comes people like Colo, SDJ, Mbemba should be given time, but Tiote must be tops the minute he comes on? Just wondering.

    For me, SDJ was the WOM (worst of match): miles from any ball, when he did get it it was promptly taken off his feet. But, really, we do need to give him time.

    In my mind, if we want a draw or a win, we must play Anita, Aarons, Perez, Cabella (second half). Also Cisse could make room for Riviere if he’s ineffective.

    If played, MOM will be the forgotten star, Cabella.

  • 21 pawl250 // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:36 AM


    Wijnaldum is not a wide player, and Sissoko is awful in the centre of the pitch, he proved last season he simply does not have the gumption or determination to fit in the middle. And to play him in the centre against Swansea would be inviting pressure on our back four.

    I would love De Jong to start more games, but I think Swansea is not the game that would suit him. He requires to chase the ball more which is why I went for more of a high energy midfield who would be willing to chase the ball.

    I have no quarrels whether we go with Cisse or Mitrovic, but Cisse scored so for me whilst he scores he stays on the pitch, a high confidence Cisse is a dangerous Cisse. Likewise if he stops scoring he should replaced and someone else is given a chance to do what he is not.

  • 22 cyprus // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:36 AM

    Oh, and I’ve noticed, when people ‘gang up’ on their baldy playmaker, he is prone to errors AND frustrated red coloured fouls.

    Reading, Steve?

  • 23 cyprus // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Forgot about Mitro.

    30′ Cisse, if ineffective, 30′ Mitro alongside Riviere. Mitro looks like he needs someone near by, opening up holes. Riviere could do that, and maybe take a crack too.

  • 24 cyprus // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:41 AM

    Last 30′, kitchen sink to overturn the result and win it 🙂

  • 25 one fine day // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:43 AM

    I remember being devo when in the season we finished 5 the hearing he was off to the arse
    But since then has become a different player and his comments about his team. Being ” shit ” and being on twitter wearing an old arsenal kit did it for me.
    Do one ?
    If we get ££ 8 mil I will fly back and drive him there
    Colback may not be as talented but he had heart will leave nothing on the pitch and always looks like he can grab a goal which as you say a drifting hopefully 40 harder from tiote offers S.F.A

  • 26 jimmysmith // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:43 AM

    Tote along with Collocini is our most accomplished player. He’s 29, so should be in his prime. McClaren will be using him and giving him every opportunity to play a significant role. It’s up to him to adapt, but its a moot point to wonder if he’ll play or should play.

  • 27 one fine day // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:44 AM

    Is riverie even fit ?

  • 28 pawl250 // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:45 AM


    Bit harsh judging De Jong on the 10 mins he was on the pitch.

    Likewise Mitrovic, who could have easily been seen as just as bad.

    Do not understand the comment about MOM and Cabella in all honesty. He was one of our most consistent worst performers last year.

    I am not saying we should write him off, but the starting midfield, arguably other than Obertan played well against Southampton. Why change it?

    My only change in midfield if any would be Aarons > Obertan to add more energy and maintain the pace, or I should say add pace with a purpose of actually getting past the opposing players.

    Colo is not a bad player. Lets be honest people on here really like to be dramatic. He would walk into most teams defence outside the top 6 maybe 7. I do not see the issue. People saying he has lost pace or what not just like at players like Terry, Mertsacker, Skrtel who have no pace and yet would be considered some of the better defenders in the PL.

    A defenders best ability is his mind. The ability to read the game is 10x more important than height or pace. People get hung up on Fifa and think to be a good defender you need pace when it simply is not true.

  • 29 Jib // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:45 AM

    I hope the players have been briefed about about Jonjo Shelvey and Jack Cork , they were fearsome against Chelsea.
    Such a hard game this , to have to play so early in McClaren’s tenure.
    Pawls comparison to Rodgers setup is interesting as even before he made it I was thinking we should deal with this game like Liverpool played Stoke last week.
    I hope the midfielders have been practising their long range screamers a la Coutinho.
    One thing in our favour is Swansea’s undoubted respect almost bordering on fear of Pappis Cisse.

  • 30 one fine day // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Ok let’s be honest here who would take a pap cisse mitrovic for the season ? Over mitrovic n Austin ?

  • 31 cyprus // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Fair points above. Except maybe the one rearding Cabella. With a different HC (this one), if played correctly, he’ll shine. My point regarding SDJ was to illustrate the fact that Tiote is crucified having been out so long. If Tiote is Shxx, then so is Tiote. Which is unfair, for both.

    Not sure if Riviere is fit, tbh.

  • 32 cyprus // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    …so is SDJ, sorry.

  • 33 will die for the toon army // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    I think Tiote’s role this season is to come and kill off games 10-15 mins to go.

    The one thing that inpressed me with Mccalren he is looking to make squad not a team. Let he hop every one will know his role and fulfill it.

    If Mcca is looking at 18 to 20 players that means some players are going to be Multi purpose.

    GK: (3) Krul, Darlow, Elliott.
    FB: (3) Janmatt, Dummett, Haidara
    With Mbemba and Anita ready to slot there wen needed.
    CB: (4) Colo, Mbemba, Taylor, Lasceles.
    Janmatt and Dummett to slot there wen needed.
    CM: (3) Anita, Colback, Tiote
    Sissoko and Wijnaldum to slot there wen needed.
    CAM: (2) Wijanldum and De Jong.
    Sissoko and Cabella to slot there wen needed.
    WF: (5) Sissoko, Perez, Aarons, Obertan, Cabella
    Rivere and Wijnaldum to slot there wen needed.
    CF: (3) Mitrovic, Cisse, Rivere
    Perez to slot in wen needed.

    Still I add up to 23 players except if Under 21s arenot included we become 19 players.

  • 34 one fine day // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    My reason is that last season when he did play even with poor support and obviously carrying a knee injury he still seemed to get a good ratio of goals per game
    I would still look at Austin but make it clear if he really wants to come then him and his agents need to make it happen and he has to earn the number nine shirt not f@@ king expect it .

  • 35 pawl250 // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:54 AM

    One Fine Day

    I would take Austin over Cisse personally. He is less injury prone, scored more goals in his 1 PL season than Cisse has in more attempts, and he is younger and English so means we do not lose him for a month of a season when he goes to AFCN although that is a moot point this year.

    Cisse however is a very similar player and I do not mind sticking with him and Mitrovic this season.

    For me though if I had a choice I would prefer Austin over Cisse. Thats my opinion.

  • 36 cyprus // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:55 AM

    Mitro and Austin? Two slow CF’s?

    No if we are still buying, would like a sharp small CF. I have a suspicion we may actually have him on our books, given time: Spanish dude.

  • 37 WWSBRD // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    one fine day
    Can’t we have all 3?

  • 38 Jail for Ashley // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    I think Riverie will benefit the team most on the treatment table.

  • 39 toon kk // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:02 AM

    Swansea will pass us off the pitch if we don’t turn up

  • 40 Ian Toon // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:03 AM

    paw- You can read to much into early season games. That said Sunday’s was noticeable by the lack of quality in both defences.
    You were fairly dismissive of Obertan’s contribution – pretty much enforced by your non selection tomorrow.
    Cedric Soames was outstanding in an attacking sense for the Saints in the first half and behind most of their better movement but he struggled to contain Obertan and his steering pace. That contributed to him being booked and subbed at half time – I would suggest that in no small measure because of Obertan’s counter play it became high risk for him to get forward. Macca alluded to this post match.

  • 41 Ian Toon // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:04 AM

    For steering read seering.

  • 42 pawl250 // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:04 AM


    Tiote is being crucified for his play from the 65min onwards, that is 25 mins.

    De Jong was not bad because he was injured, he was bad, like Mitrovic because they both were introduced when Southampton were having more of the possession limiting them from showing off what qualities they possess. They both aren’t quick players and being as offensive as they are, probably would not chase every ball. It did make them both look lazy, but it is what strikers tend to do.

    That said I do strongly believe had Anita been on the field opposed to Tiote they may have had more opportunities and we may have not lost the game. Anita going off for Tiote changed the game.

    As I said before it was not the lack of fitness that was the problem for Tiote, it was his basic play. The simple passes, the losing possession for his unnecessary want for keeping the ball. I have a very vivid memory of watching Tiote on the half way line keep the ball for about 20 seconds without moving and the ball at his feet, trying to tempt a Southampton player to come towards him. I mean he slowed our offensive game down to a stand still for 20 seconds in the closing stages. Yet compared to Colback and Anita who played balls from left to right in one or two touches making the play flow. Then his defensive ability left holes were Anita was simply not, he was playing with more discipline. Tiote was just charging round like a utter t!t and allowing players to drift in between defence and midfield.

    If you looked at my starting line up before the game Tiote was in it as I thought he would protect our defence more than Anita. For me that is not the case now. Anita must start if he plays the way he did on Sunday.

    Cabella will get his chance, I do not think he deserves to simply walk into the team though when fit. He needs to earn his place. As I said our starting midfield except Obertan had strong games. Why replace them. If Cabella is as good as you think then he should push somebody to improve or simply replace them in the starting line up in upcoming games.

    No one should automatically walk into the team though.

  • 43 pawl250 // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:06 AM


    Cisse is not exactly Usain Bolt. Austin would arguably be very similar pace wise.

    Our teams pace comes from midfield, not our strikers. Would you say no to Diego Costa because he is not fast?

    We need goals. I think Austin provides a bigger threat on the ground and aerially than Cisse.

    Mitrovic, the jury is out still, but he looks like it will be more of an aerial threat than the ground.

  • 44 Rotonda heights // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:06 AM


    what a truly pathetic dig at arsenal. i would kill to play like them and achieve what they have. Suggest you look up highest scorers.

  • 45 Ian Toon // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    I see similarities between Diego Costa and Mitrovic .

  • 46 one fine day // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:14 AM

    37WWSBRD // Aug 14, 2015 at 10:56 AM
    Yes in a dream world we can/ should as they offer different qualities yo suit different matches but hang on this is nufc we are talking about.
    My point was. Thought that I’d rather dig a player who REALLY wanted to come here and understood what wearing number nine at st james actually means of am I being just too romantic ?

  • 47 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:16 AM

    Agree jury’s out!!!
    I thought Mitrovic was awful when he came on – lucky to stay on (twice) – ran around like a headless chicken.
    Close ball control was poor along and his aerial ability didn’t look that good either. looked unfit hopefully another weeks training will sharpen him up.
    I would start with same team as against Southampton if all fit!!

  • 48 pawl250 // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:16 AM

    Ian Toon

    I watched the match from the stands and nearly everyone around me and myself included thought our left side looked weak in both defence and attack.

    Haidara and Obertan barely kept the ball each time they touched it in the first half, and I do not think one cross until the goal was delivered past the 18 yard book line. It was really poor!

    They both improved the second half, Haidara looked abit more solid in defence. Obertan tried harder.

    My opinion of swapping him for Aarons is because he simply does not do the defensive work enough for a team like Swansea. We need pace on the counter, not someone to run and simply stop and wait for the opposing players to stroll back into position when we are on the counter. I firmly believe Aarons would rather risk losing the ball and taking a player on opposed to allowing the above to happen.

    That being said, we need that against a team like Swansea when we will most likely being playing on the counter.

    I missed him out of the bench as again if we are chasing the game, I feel Cabella could make a bigger impact from the bench than Obertan.

    I do think he is our weakest link in midfield, I mean he was awful at times on Sunday.

    The ironic thing is the two worst starting players on the pitch actually set up both our goals. That does not mean they had great games though.

  • 49 WWSBRD // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:21 AM

    one fine day
    So which one doesn’t want to be here? Austin or Cisse?

    I see no reason why we shouldn’t have 3 decent strikers, got the money for it after all

  • 50 pawl250 // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:22 AM


    He certainly did not impress me.

    I willed him to do well, I mean we all love a decent striker but it was almost like he was trying to hard when he had the ball and not enough when he was without.

    His control was pretty average, his aerial ability is arguably up for debate with only a couple of balls actually reaching him which he managed to keep a hold of. He tried running at players like Ben Arfa at times and simply did not have the pace and as I said without the ball he looked really lazy, although I have read he does that, he simply goes missing and appears and scores according to a Belgium journalist.

    Jury is out, bit harsh to judge after one game.

    That said, I thought Mbemba was excellent for his first game and you can instantly see the quality when Wijnaldum gets the ball. So maybe its not too harsh, but under the circumstances 15-20mins when we were a team on the back foot is probably unfair to judge.

  • 51 pawl250 // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:23 AM


    Would not have 3 of them. It means you are damning talent like Perez to fourth choice. I doubt you could keep all 3 happy, given 2 will not play most games.

  • 52 Ian Toon // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:28 AM

    paw- Whilst I don’t agree it is a question of opinion. Many of which are pre match formed and not based upon what actually happened during the course of the game. Even good players we rate highly can have poor games and vice versa . You didn’t comment on my central point concerning Cedric Soames and the suggestion by Macca that Obertan was fulfilling a tactical plan . I was at the game and at the time assumed Soames was subbed because he had been booked.
    It will be interesting to see what the starting line up is tomorrow – I favour the same team but introduction of subs astutely.

  • 53 WWSBRD // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:30 AM

    Perez isn’t really a striker though. As for keeping them happy so? Ita their duty to prove they should be starting, I’d rather have competition for places personally

  • 54 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:32 AM

    Wiljnaldum and Mbemba looked a class above (Mitrovic) and along with Anita who I gave MOM were the stand out players

  • 55 hibbit // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:37 AM

    charlie …i think we had a very poor pre season a lot of player looked off the pace some more than others i think a lot of that was down to a very poor pre season tour which charnley and carver organised

  • 56 Mister Tuff // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:41 AM

    Ian Toon – you stated yesterday that I was planning to get Blackley banned from the blog.
    You stated that you KNOW this to be the case. Can you please explain this further.
    Equally you could take this opportunity to admit yet again that you have just made this up.
    I asked you to explain last night and you failed to do so.

  • 57 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:41 AM

    Wow. At last. A coach who understands football. Simpson’s words are spot on.

    Having watched a fair few youth and kids games over recent years, I reckon coaches are killing the game. It’s all about possession. They’d rather see passing between defenders and midfielders sideways and backwards 20 times than a risky 60/40 or even 70/30 long ball for the striker. Even goalkeepers get involved.

    After so many touches they invariably lose the ball anyway. If they manage to keep it and gain ground to the box, they’ve compressed the game so much that a striker has little, if any, room to work in.

    It does my head in to see centre forwards making great runs and not being picked out because a midfielder or defender is obsessed with possession and you sense before he even gets the ball that his first thought is going to be sideways. When the play does eventually reach the box, a midfielder ends up up with no option but to try a long shot.

    The best teams IMO, certainly at NUFC where funds are always limited, are built from the front. Your centre forward is your main man. You ask him how he wants it. Your first thought is to feed him. Get him away as early as possible. No better sight IMO than two centre backs waiting for a ball to drop out of the sky as your big quick Number 9 closes in.

    If your striker wants a strike partner, get him one. If he wants his feet massaged, give him luxury. If he gets goals, he’s confident. The confidence of a centre forward getting goals spreads through the team.

    I can see the point of possession of course. But, you should have the balance. You can easily ruin the thread by overtightening the screw.

    I still hark back to the days of Withe and Shoulder. We looked to feed those guys. Great old fashioned stuff. The circle will turn again.

  • 58 hibbit // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:42 AM

    ian the haidara / oberton pairing did not work oberton looked a lot better when he moved to the rw

  • 59 Mancgeordie // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:44 AM

    I haven’t commented on here for a while but I will put my pennies worth in personally when he’s up to speed I think de Jong will play up with gini just behind, cabella play on the left I think he could be a top player under Macca and wasn’t used properly under pards and carver

    Anita colback
    Cabella Gini sissoko
    De Jong

  • 60 LewSpi v2.0 // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:46 AM

    I really hope these guys aren’t setting themselves up for a massive fall. They’ve talked the talk so far, and I know this includes Pre-Season and that doesn’t really count etc etc. But 11 goals in 8 games (including games against the likes of York City and Gateshead), isn’t exactly goals goals goals. Especially not coupled with just 2 wins out of 8.

    I’m not being negative, just highlighting that the PR machine seems to have had a good splashing of WD40 over the summer and therefore I’m still reserving judgement.

  • 61 one fine day // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    53WWSBRD // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:30 AM
    Agree I think Perez could be a Beardsley rather Han out n out striker

  • 62 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:48 AM

    Agree with you on the pre season matches tour did nowt for the players only getting our name more noticed in the States – more wonga!
    on about Wonga – dont like the new white away strip bloody advert for Wonga with the blue trim shorts the same corporate colour as Wonga.

    Blackley and Brownlie
    my first pairing I can remember big and little in up front was Wyn ‘the Leap’ Davies and Bryan ‘Pop’ Robson – were excellent parnership.

    If a player turned up in today’s football who can jump/leap like Wyn they would terrorise defences – no one would get near him

  • 63 magpiesi // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:50 AM

    Smc style is simple since his boro days keep the ball the other team gets tired chasing hopefully.

    He likes two or three fast players two wingers and a cm,

    He mainly uses 4 at the back with 3 players in cm either 1 or 2 dm just depends who we are playing the better teams it’s 2 dm with counter attack like Sunday against Southampton with the not so good teams more of a 4141 with the 2 cm given more freedom to get support to st.

  • 64 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:50 AM

    I won’t comment on your lengthy post because others can decide whether you were justified in calling me a liar. Suffice to say, it sounded so long and desperate that I skipped to the end. Fortunately, I did because I noticed your kind invitation to meet in a bar when next you’re over. I’m sure I will enjoy meeting you. With any luck we might take a better view of each other.

  • 65 hibbit // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:55 AM

    blackley my dad was friends with frank brennan on a saturday we would have the 5 bob lunch at the bamboo garden clayton st /eldon sq frank and my dad would talk football from start to finish anyway my point… frank often told the tale when we bought wyn davis for 85 k from bolton we were offer 2 players for 150k we turned the offer down the other player was francis lee…… what a pairing that would have been for the nufc

  • 66 expatmag // Aug 14, 2015 at 11:56 AM


    Suffice to say, guilty as charged. If you are not able to read the evidence, then you are admitting guilt, especially as you appear to ignore my offer of viewing your so called season ticket.

    Please explain!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 67 expatmag // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:01 PM


    My father was also friendly with Frank as they both came from the same school in Coatbridge in Scotland.

    Frank would have been at my Dads wedding in August 1953 if he werent playing.

    Unfortunately, my father died young at 51 and Frank attended his funeral on christmas eve 1976 along with another NUFC friend, Willie McFaul

  • 68 bollance2 // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:07 PM

    Posting again because genuinely excited by the revolution.

    Big difference is that the club is listening to and placing emphasis on its supporters. One reason the apple brand is so strong is because it has a religious like following. There has been many references to Newcastle United being like a religion. Even Ed has made this point 🙂

    Has the club left it too late? We are not the only ones flexing their financial muscle. Many teams have spent well on talented players like Rondon and shaqiri. We had been liked with rondon a few years ago and I nearly posted that I though he was the player off the radar we would buy. Because of our profitability we have been champions league clubs to the 3 players we have bought do far.

    Are we a selling club? Of course we are. Like every club except 3 or 4. Now is not a good time to sell as we have just had an awful season. The club have overall sold well but I hope we have learnt the selling at Xmas has resulted in us dropping down the table = many millions less in prize money.

    Attractive football is back. There are going to be lots of goals, for and against. The best thing I noticed is nobody can decide on the best 11. This proves competition for places. We only have krul, Janmaat, colo and mbemba as shoe-ins. Therefore, we need another top defender and right back. Haidara needs to be given time. He has always been a little nervous. Let’s hope the negativity towards him doesn’t affect him. Overall the team lost confidence in the final 15 minutes. We reverted to last season’s play backward to krul who hoofed it. If we can loose that shackle. We can turn a huge corner. Unfortunately there are no easy fixture in the Prem.

  • 69 Burni // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:08 PM

    I dont know about anyone else but De Jong hasnt really looked like he could be any good. He disappered in the last game and I just cant see him adding anything in any game Ive seen him in. Anyone else

  • 70 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:08 PM

    Hibbit and Charlie
    You go further back than I do. Supermac was playing in my first game at SJP. My dad took me in the paddock (can’t remember which paddock or even which year or whether it was Leicester or Everton).

    Tyneside was all about Supermac. Like a god. I waited and waited for the god to deliver but it was turning into a complete let down. Then suddenly late in the game Supermac set off for goal from the halfway line with blistering pace and the crowd became electric. According to my memory, he went past a couple of players on the way, went to go round the keeper but went too wide. It ended nil nil but I then understood what all the Supermac hype was about and why your centre forward is your main man (IMO).

  • 71 Noel Worst // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:10 PM

    If Anita is fit go with the same team as last week. If he isn’t, Perez in for Anita, Wiji to drop back alongside Jack.

  • 72 Ian Toon // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:10 PM

    Mr Tuff- your behaviour borders on the obsessive. It’s a form of bullying with literally no constructive comment passed about the club. It was my opinion based upon your track record for causing trouble, meddling and preaching to other bloggers. In my case for example , you have responded to one of my posts – not addressed to you – on a number of ocassions with ” poncey crap”- something which had been endorsed by others. You and your dirty tricks mate have accused me of being countless people – the latest was Mr Funk. Ed has found them all to be legitimate but noticeably they have left the blog because of your haranguing – I avoided any contact simply because of your dirty tricks.
    You need to find yourself a hobby as you obviously have to much time on your hands. Do some charity work to put something back in your community.
    Stop pestering me and others with your inane gibberish nonsense.

  • 73 Burni // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:15 PM

    wow i see the blog is still full of angry bitter middle age men

  • 74 will die for the toon army // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:15 PM

    Mcca speaks at 12.30 thats in the next 15 mins.

  • 75 Jib // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:16 PM

    The Bamboo Gardens
    Was that the velvet curtains and the spiral staircase downstairs ?

  • 76 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:20 PM

    There was no stopping Supermac when he was in full flow and scored some spectacular goals
    Three I remember are cup game at Bolton when he turned swivelled a crashed in a 25 yarder.
    bullet of a shot from just outside the box in the leazes end
    his cup semi final goal when Hibbitt put one over the top from out of defence and he ran on to it with the Burnley player hanging onto his shirt trying to stop him but to no avail as he rifled the ball past their keeper.
    Hibbit and Supermac – could they be the two bandiest legged players to play for the TOON?

  • 77 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:20 PM

    Expat @66
    There is no evidence that I’m a liar. I started reading your post but you were just trying to justify yourself and making a very poor job of it. I decided to rise above it and let others decide, if they’re at all interested. According to you, even my choice to do that makes me “guilty as charged”. You can’t win. Australia’s original kangaroo court.

    It goes without saying, if I meet you for a pint, I’m not going to hide my ST.

  • 78 Munster Mag // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:22 PM

    Not sure where all the optimism is coming from. We have improved a lot from a low base but tomorrow could be one of the top 5 hardest games in the league this year. I predict a 3-1 defeat , sorry.

  • 79 toonbrother // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:22 PM

    lol so Haidara is the official new whipping boy
    Previously it was santon, then Williamson, then Perch, then Saylor, then Mbiwa
    now its Haidara’s turn
    soon it will be janmaat and mbema
    Its everyone buy colo’s fault

  • 80 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:25 PM

    I meant to mention Hibbit in my previous post. I’ve spoken to Supermac a few times and he raves about Hibbit. He was a midfielder who saw his job as feeding Supermac. His first thought was forward, long or short. Terrific player.

  • 81 Slank // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:27 PM

    I think McClaren will go with almost the same team that started against Southampton.

    The defence and the midfield pick themselves.

    The only doubt is Obertan and Cisse. I have a feeling he will start with both.

    Swansea will have noted that in Sissoko and Obertan we have to players with pace which could expose their fullbacks and as such I don’t think their fullbacks will be as adventurist.

    I expect Mitrovich to come on at some point to bully their defence, but hopefully not get sent off !

  • 82 jazzyp // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:33 PM

    I see my comment fell on deaf ears this morning !!

  • 83 beermonkey // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:37 PM


    what was the comment

  • 84 Jib // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:38 PM

    I was at Burnden Park for the Bolton cuptie – did Supermac not score one from near the corner flag ?

    The Burnley one giving the defender a piggy back was the FA cup semi at Hillsborough

    The Leazes end one was v Leicester , I was in the Leazes for that and Mark Wallington was still crouched wondering what all the noise was about as Supermac wheeled away with his arms up and we all went bonkers as the net bulged

  • 85 Slank // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:41 PM


    I’m intrigued, what was your comment, was it profound ?

  • 86 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:46 PM

    It was from a throw in out on the left at the far end to the Toon army – he let the ball bounce once swivelled and rifled in a unstoppable shot

  • 87 Reyantoon // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:50 PM

    Janmaat had poor game against southampton.
    Was poor in defending as well as attacking.With Ayew and Montero playing in his opposite side of his position,he may have another nightmare game,unless McLaren have a different setup to stop them or put someone to assist Janmaat in defending.I prefer the same eleven from last week.Most don’t rate Obertan but he was playing well so far,so can’t see why he should be dropped.Felt pessimistic about the final result though.But if we score first,we may have a chance to snatch something.
    Regarding Siem dj,he should be a squad player for the time being,until he is 100% fit & strong.
    Every time i see him playing on the pitch,it scratches me something may happen to him again -collapsing!!

  • 88 Mister Tuff // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:53 PM

    Ian Toon – just as I thought another one of your inventions – no evidence at all to justify such outrageous claims.I would suggest that it is you who cause the greater amount of trouble on the blog – stating you KNOW as fact that I was planning to get Blackley banned. Now revealed as another lie.
    You suggest that I have haranged several persons from the blog and they no longer post. How do you know this, do you know these people personally – are you in contact with any of these persons by any chance and they have made the allegations – let’s have a list please.
    Trying to hide your skulduggery by constantly introducing Ed, to mask your trickery, into the scenario does not work.
    As for your Maccas’ brave new world – what does it mean – it was a legitimate question. As a reader of Huxley it clearly has no relevance to his writings.

    You constantly introduce your family members into your posts, recently saying what your grandad and father taught you – clearly honesty wasn’t a topic they covered.
    I take no part in dirty tricks – we know who the trickster is.

  • 89 Malackay // Aug 14, 2015 at 12:56 PM

    RE: Charlie Austin situation.

    QPR have backed themselves into a corner. They clearly cannot afford not to sell him given his contract situation. It seems they were banking on a couple of teams struggling early on and stumping up £15m for him before window closes.

    The problem now is, the clubs who were/are interested scored freely in the opening weekend (NUFC, Everton, Leicester, West Ham). If this continues and no panic offer arrives at their door, they may very well have to sell him for sub-£10m never mind the £12m Leicester offer they turned down earlier in the summer.

    I do like him as a striker but given the signing of Mitrovic, signing him no longer makes sense. If, and its a big if, we go for another striker it will more than likely be in the mold of a pacey attacker rather than poacher.

    Still, inline with many on here, I see CB and LB as priorities!

  • 90 jazzyp // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:02 PM


    I just asked for the constant bickering to stop lads that’s all

  • 91 jazzyp // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:08 PM

    Another step in the right direction for the fans that attend the away matches.Cut price tickets and Train fares to be culled, Makes the day out more affordable

  • 92 Ron Knee // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:14 PM

    Have we all seen this?

    Lee Ryder:
    Steve McClaren says that he is happy with squad but “things will happen in window” #nufc

  • 93 Malackay // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:17 PM

    Ron Knee –

    Yes, he must have some serious confidence in his defensive coaching if he is going to improve Willo, Saylor, Haidaira and Dummett.

  • 94 John Tudor // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:17 PM

    selling or buying still not enamoured with this lot

  • 95 jazzyp // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:17 PM

    Steve McClaren insists he’s ‘happy’ with his squad but still wants more new players to come into the club before the transfer window closes.

    McClaren, speaking to the press ahead of tomorrow’s game against Swansea, said he is still ‘searching’ for additions to his team and believes there will be activity between now and the end of the month.

    He added: “There’s still a long way to go in terms of the squad, but we are getting towards what we want to move forward with.”

    Words we all want to hear for Steve mac. And I believe there will be deals to be had come the end of the transfer window.
    Qpr are basically asking for us to make them an offer now as time goes by.its become obvious to all they are not going to get the 15 mill.
    The foreign market has seemed a bit inflated this summer as the European clubs know PL clubs have big money to burn.
    Hopefully we would ideally bring in at least 3 more first teamers and not potential future stars, As this could be addressed in January

  • 96 expatmag // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:18 PM


    So, is that you refusing to meet me and show me your season ticket then?

  • 97 beefman13 // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:22 PM

    Pedro reckons Siem de Jong is a better player than he ever was, well up until now De Jongs time at the toon has been a disaster, and Pedro is selling himself short massively imo, i hope De Jong proves me wrong, I know he is a talented kid but, he has to get up to speed, his Bro did not deliver one bit, let’s hope it dosnt run in the family.

  • 98 Ron Knee // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:23 PM

    I’m hoping – nay, praying – that we get in a decent defender before the window closes.

  • 99 John Tudor // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:23 PM

    still hs not shown his butt in fenwicks window

  • 100 John Tudor // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:27 PM

    how much longer must we persist with p155 p00r defenders

  • 101 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:27 PM

    I can see de Jong scoring tomorrow

  • 102 Ian Toon // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:31 PM

    Mr Tuff – You have been found guilty of haranguing people whom you claim to have been me from the blog; the same people whom Ed subsequently found to be legitimate. Just imagine that your new on the blog and an aggressive overbearing blogging individual starts being abusive and insulting. It’s hardly the welcome wagon!
    I think you knew precisely what you were found guilty as charged over- I posted this simply to overcome your obfuscation.
    I ask that we both ignore one another and that your mate does likewise.
    It’s out there on the record. If I miss out on one of your Bayeux tapestry type proclamations then so be it.
    I am shocked at your 3-1 score line forecast. I can see another 2-2 draw. I do wish we could bring in additional defensive signings before the window closes. It could transform our season.

  • 103 Take a Chancel on me // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:34 PM

    New story for Ed for the Daily Austin

  • 104 Take a Chancel on me // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:35 PM

    I still reckon we will beat Swansea 2-0 or 0-2 if you prefer

  • 105 Ron Knee // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:37 PM

    That is the question!

  • 106 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:37 PM

    I am not on a wind up here. I’m not trying to be clever. But I must say this. It seems like we’re talking a different language. I could not have been more clear in my answers to you. Anyone can check them. I don’t know whether you have missed my posts or not? I have stated I’d be more than happy to meet you and put my ST on the table for you to inspect (even though I find the whole accusation most bizarre). I’ve been prepared to do that for anyone who could do it on your and MrMojo’s behalf, who was in my vicinity on Tyneside. You thought that was comical, and I agree. I can’t believe it comes to this.

    So, yes. You tell me where and when. I will even buy you a pint.

  • 107 anthc // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:38 PM

    I’m trying to give de Jong the benefit of the doubt but at the minute I’m really struggling as to why. He returned before the end of the season but then said didn’t feel strong enough. The lads had longer than everyone else and if he was behind he should’ve returned earlier than the others to catch up as most injured players do. Everyone speaks highly of him but at the moment he reminds me of his brother and may not be cut out for the premiership. Hope I’m proved wrong as he seems like a nice fella however, he’s here to play football and at the moment I can’t see him being a first teamed and as for the Beardsley comment I’d say at the minute he ain’t fit to tie pedros laces!

  • 108 jazzyp // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:38 PM


    I think we got to go for the win mate. A hard team to beat but so are many in the PL now. Villa are spending wisely and we have got to follow suit.
    I went for the win also probably more in hope and being more optimistic as well. Some really tough fixtures coming up and the sooner we start winning, the better

  • 109 Burni // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:39 PM

    de jong wont score. hes not very good

  • 110 Blaydon-Toon // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:40 PM

    Steve Mac has a lot better squad with the 3 new signings and the return of Aaron’s and SDJ we actually have good options with a decent bench to adapt formation or style – could be better yes but much improved no ?

  • 111 jazzyp // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:42 PM


    You sit near me mate don’t you in the Platinum.

  • 112 Mister Tuff // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:44 PM

    The latest words from Wally do suggest he is not entirely happy with the squad. The prospective new signings could be for the squad or indeed the first eleven.
    The retention of Colo suggests no new CB -well at least not a first team starter. The Charlie Austin story will just not go away -might be brinkmanship employed here. The other thing that seems to have died a death is the supposed mystery super signing.
    All in all going in the right direction -so far – for what it’s worth – I would guess at least a couple of fist teamers to be bought.
    Tomorrow – I think our obvious faults will prevail again so think we may lose -but hope we dont.
    If our deficiences are the same as Sunday – Wally surely has to address them before the window closes.

  • 113 jazzyp // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:45 PM


    And what may I ask are you judging that opinion on.
    Unfortunately SDJ was injured last season which could have happened to anyone of our players.
    and if you are going to judge someone on 10 minutes worth of play when our backs were against the wall, Do you not think that is a bit harsh

  • 114 Bambams // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:52 PM

    Gents we need to give SDJ some time. He endured one helluva season last year.
    He is class and even if he hasn’t got the pace he once had look at Jan Molby !
    We need great footballers with vision, this bloke has that and with Aarons, Wini, Perez and Mitrovic they can be his legs.
    Just give him time to get back to his fitness.
    Ajax captains are top players

  • 115 expatmag // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:56 PM


    As a veritable stranger, you decide the time and place, either before the
    Watford or Chelsea game. Matter less to me. Happy for you to buy the pints too

  • 116 jazzyp // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:57 PM

    Well said Bambams.
    Just go back to pre season last summer and we were all raving about him. He has plaudits in abundance from the top managers in the world.
    Give him a chance to prove himself before shooting the guy. Put it this way even as a current benchwarmer, I would sooner have SDJ to bring on than the likes of Gouffy,Abied,Vukic who have had there chances

  • 117 jasper // Aug 14, 2015 at 1:59 PM

    If it would put an end to this tedious topic I would be happy to team up with JazzyP and inspect B&Bs season ticket.
    Jazzy my recollection is that he said it is an 1892 one, in front of us on the Platinum.
    And, no, we are not the same person. I have been contributing sparingly for at least three years. But like others, such as Torq, I find the aggression manifested by too many (Ciaren in his case) such that I generally keep my head down.

    Pawl, I concur with your long post earlier. To my eye the problem with Obertan on the left is that he is totally right footed and never looked like he would get anywhere, just turned back on himself and passed backwards. His cross (which was made blind, you could see on tv that he never looked) was made on one of the few occasions he swapped over to the right.
    We need to get to the byline, something we have been very poor at doing for some seasons. The club have two left footed wingers who can do this. One is Arrons, the other is in Cardiff….

  • 118 Toon fm Exeter // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:00 PM

    I know this is a cliche but long time reader, first time publisher but I agree with jazzyp lads stop the bickering

  • 119 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:00 PM

    JazzyP and Bambams
    For me, you either show you’re a Toure or a Molby or you get a sweat on, run around and graft like everybody else. You don’t stroll about doing very little on the basis that that’s what you do when you’re at the top of your game.

  • 120 pawl250 // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:01 PM

    I think SDJ is an excellent player.

    I am basing this off his past in the Dutch League, International and CL games I have seen (have not seen them all obviously, but what I have seen)

    We have no one like him at the club. The only downside to his game is his pace, he is pretty slow. YET he is very much like Shearer with his ability on and around the ball both on the ground and in the air. He can be a 10 goals a season player if given a starting role behind the striker and stays injury free.

    Alot of people judge him on a few cameo appearances. Yet last pre season he was our main player. This pre season I still think he is recovering from that awful collapsed lung which clearly is not a standard injury for a footballer. Naturally it will take time to rebuild your fitness and strength.

    Give him time, quality is within trust me.

  • 121 corkypants // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:05 PM

    SDJ in holland was fantastic i said it earlier, he was teddy/Bergkamp style player not the quickest but very clever with his movement

  • 122 pawl250 // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:07 PM


    Its not that Obertan is awful, its that he frustrates you into thinking he is awful. Hope that makes sense.

    I mean he clearly has something to be in the PL, and for Man Utd to actually go and buy him.

    YET he has all this pace and simply does not use it. He loses the ball to often aswell. I mean he has the ability to damage the other team but rarely fulfills his full potential in doing so.

    His pace is king, YET he refuses to go beyond players. Even on Sunday the assist was not him running around a player, it was the ball from Cisse making him run onto it.

  • 123 ShirebrookToon // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:09 PM

    SDJ needs to be given time

  • 124 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:10 PM

    Expat @114
    So long as Tuff doesn’t arrest me or wrap me up in a Bayeux tapestry proclamation, whatever that is! I’ll check my fixture list. Some matches I have to shoot straight from Yorkshire and I’m lucky if I reach my seat by 3pm. Depends on whether my son is playing home or away and whether he’s fit or injured.

  • 125 pawl250 // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:13 PM


    I agree. David Silva does not have super pace, but his movement does not require it. De Jong is similar in that he has a football brain allowing him to move into positions that can damage the opposition.

    Hes strong in the air, and on the ground in front of goal.

    I am not saying he is Silva quality, but he is still a very good player. I think his injury, and as I said it is not a football injury its more serious than that, has affected him clearly and he is still recovering.

    I think pre season has helped him gain some muscle etc back, and I think he will make a good few people on this blog eat their own words given the chance.

    Alot of people jump to conclusions in extreme circumstances. I mean Sunday he came on with less than 10 mins to go and we could not even get the ball to him or Mitrovic. It is hardly his fault.

    I am confident he will be a strong player this season for the club. I know injuries dictate that but he was never a injury prone player in the past and I am hoping last season, mixed with the serious non football illness is a one off.

  • 126 jazzyp // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:18 PM


    give the lad a chance mate that’s all I am saying.He cannot be judged on his first season although he shone in pre season the summer he signed.
    As for sunday yes he looked rusty but we were on the backfoot and hanging on for the draw in all honesty.
    At least give him a season to prove himself bud, And if the same problems with his health persist I will quite happily stand corrected

  • 127 corkypants // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:21 PM

    totally agree pawl he is a class act did he score 4 goals in 2 games for ajax against man city in champs league. how can people call him shit!!!

  • 128 Jib // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:23 PM

    Why are folk in Surrey interested in us ?

  • 129 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:25 PM

    The Watford game I’ll be lucky to make the K.O. because I’ll be doing the Yorkshire dash, but I will be free afterwards. For the Chelsea game, my boy’s playing at Cardiff but because the Chelsea game is a late K.O., I might try to take both games in with a dash from Wales. Either way I’ll be available afterwards.

  • 130 ShirebrookToon // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:26 PM

    Be nice to see SDJ and Gini in the starting line up one day 🙂

  • 131 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:30 PM

    I’m all for giving someone a chance. I’m not writing him off. I listen to opinions like yours as you’ve seen more of him. I’m just saying a bit of hard graft and effort as a substitute is not too much to ask, even from the biggest stars, especially when it’s fitness he needs and in all honesty, he’s not providing anything special for the team at the moment.

  • 132 jazzyp // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:37 PM


    yes I agree in the 10 minutes he came on for when our backs were against the wall and we were mainly defending, Then yes SDJ showed very little. But neither did Mitro for that matter.
    I think Siem de jong is the most underrated dutch player around.He has always been known for his hard work, and was the complete architect of Ajax’s midfield. as they have said in the past….”.A jack of all trades master of none”.
    But a shining light of versatility that every team needs

  • 133 Crow59 // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:42 PM

    I see Jose Enrique is being encouraged to leave the bindippers, as stacked as we are at left back I still think it’s a position we could strengthen, haidaras good going forward but is poor defensively.

  • 134 Reyantoon // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:47 PM

    Actually he is not shit.He is not excellent either.
    we can’t judge him fully atm realistically because we haven’t seen him playing much,but the way we see his pace and work rate in his sub appearances,he looked slow and weak player,brings a doubt whether he will cut it in PL.To be fair,i agree with Bruni above.I felt exactly like him about siem.He should be a sub player unless he bring something new!!

  • 135 jazzyp // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    Roma are closing in on the signing of #NUFC target Antonio Rüdiger – to replace former #NUFC player, Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa

  • 136 toon kk // Aug 14, 2015 at 2:58 PM

    SDJ is a really good player, however against pacey sides like Swansea and Arsenal he is pretty much infective, he hasn’t the pace or time to put his skills to use a part from set plays.

  • 137 Jail for Ashley // Aug 14, 2015 at 3:04 PM

    I would put past differences aside and have Enrique back. Dummet, Taylor and Lascelles could then fight over the CB places.

  • 138 hibbit // Aug 14, 2015 at 3:09 PM

    jib… i think the one down stairs next to fenwicks was the emperor not sure now a long time ago

  • 139 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 14, 2015 at 3:16 PM

    God afternoon Jazzy….do you think well do more signings?

  • 140 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 14, 2015 at 3:31 PM

    Not everybody will agree with me, but personally i think the pelle goal was a goal of pure quality. The cross was top quality. Now the header, ppl are forgetting pelle is a big lad, he’s about 6’4, with the massive leap that resulted in the goal, he must have been about 7 foot in the air. Sound accurate as considering he was about a foot higher than both Janmaat & colo, who are both about 6 foot.

    As mcclaren said himself, they weren’t in the game at all at that point, it was there first attack. Only way to stop that goal was cut out the cross. Once that cross is made, Barcelona & madrid couldn’t stop pelle from scoring.

  • 141 Thump // Aug 14, 2015 at 3:33 PM

    Ed hasn’t put up an article about Austin today. I’m scared.

  • 142 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 14, 2015 at 3:46 PM

    My team for tomorrow

    Janmaat mbemba colo hairdryer
    Anita colback
    Sissoko wijnaldum aarons

  • 143 corkypants // Aug 14, 2015 at 3:50 PM

    Reyantoon:~ I never said he was shit i was saying once back to full fitness he will be damn good, i watch quite a bit of erediv so i saw alot of him at ajax and loved him

  • 144 Madmaglass // Aug 14, 2015 at 4:14 PM

    @ 140
    I agree that Pelle scored a great goal and I’m glad that that fixture is out of the way now and we managed to grab a point!

    However, I think our second goal, Wijnaldum, assisted by Obertan’s cross, was better! For a fraction of a second, I thought I was watching highlights of the Newcastle vs Barca match, got a real sense of déjà vu! That game was a real classic 🙂 Anyway, back to the present. It was a brilliant goal by us and I would hope for something similar tomorrow if we could be so lucky.
    Howay the lads! 🙂

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