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McClaren – Only One Lesson We Can Learn From Today

6:52 pm, Saturday, August 15th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 213 Comments

Newcastle United head coach Steve McClaren couldn’t say too much after this game, as we basically threw it way in the first half when Daryl Janmaat got himself two yellow cards for fouls on Jefferson Montero after just 41 minutes.

We cannot think McClaren can be too happy with the Dutch International, and he has told BBC Sport it was naivety that cost us the game today.

ayew outjumps colo

Andre Ayew beats Coloccini to head home Swansea’a second goal

Newcastle were beaten by goals from Bafetimbi Gomis and Andre Ayew – one in each half – but the lads battled quite well in those final 45 minutes to keep it to 2-0.

After the game this is what Steve McClaren told BBC Sport:

“We didn’t learn a lot apart from it is difficult to win with 10 men.” “A little bit of naivety has cost us, 10 men and your backs are against the wall.”

“We have to dust ourselves down and concentrate on the Manchester United game next week.”

“I’m not too sure whether it was a second booking but we knew he would be a danger and unfortunately we fell into the trap.”

And Steve also talked to local journalists after the game, and said he thought the second yellow card was a bit harsh:

“I thought it was harsh, it was a long way from goal.” “OK, Daryl had made his presence known, which he needed to do.” “It was a little tug. I think the referee could have been more lenient.”

“From then on, it was very difficult.”  “I think the first Janmaat booking, you could see the referee had made his intentions clear.” “If we learn anything, it is emotional control.

“That has cost us, that is the only lesson we can learn – keeping 11 players on the pitch.”

Janmaat fouled Montero more than twice in that first half, and by the time he pulled the Ecuadorian back on 41 minutes the referee if anything had been fairly lenient.

Emotional control is the one thing the players can learn from today’s game –  and we end up with one point from our first two games and now visit Old Trafford next week.

We still have two weeks left in the transfer market so surely we need to bring in another defender?

Comments welcome.

Tags: Daryl Janmaat · Match Reports · Newcastle News · Premier League · Transfer News and Rumours

213 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Take a Chancel on me // Aug 15, 2015 at 6:54 PM

    Thump no it was a corner

  • 2 Ron Knee // Aug 15, 2015 at 6:54 PM

    Ameobi on.

  • 3 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 15, 2015 at 6:56 PM

    Old Blackleg had to watch on TV today. Who played well?

  • 4 welshgeordie9 // Aug 15, 2015 at 6:57 PM

    Yes there is one thing we can learn today, kick out all the crap players, dont really have to be Sherlock Holmes to work that one out.

  • 5 mickalfas // Aug 15, 2015 at 6:58 PM

    According to a previous thread , there’s no problem as we’re scoring loads of goals
    Same old shite for me

  • 6 Noel Worst // Aug 15, 2015 at 6:59 PM

    Pair Mitrovic with Perez and watch the goals flow.

  • 7 Jail for Ashley // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:00 PM

    Apart from Obwrllltoon, who are the crap players that started today, today was pretty much the ‘purple’ eleven.

  • 8 WWSBRD // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:01 PM

    How will goals flow with Mitrovic suspended?

  • 9 mickalfas // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:01 PM

    I think you need to narrow that down, there’s so many
    Last weeks result doesn’t look too good after Evertons result

  • 10 toon22 // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:03 PM

    So Schteve thinks we have learned nowt?
    Shame all the other teams have about us.
    We cant handle crosses into the box.
    Our FBs wont do much to stop players crossing.
    Mitro seems like a head case,just wind him up.

    Thats just off the top of my head.

  • 11 Belfast // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:03 PM

    What a goal that was well deserved

  • 12 Tsunki // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:04 PM

    I think Eds just putting the finishing typos to his ‘Charlie Austin – this is what you could have had’ article.

  • 13 roblee7 // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:05 PM

    Swansea are absolutely immense. We are very much a work in progress. Janmaat cost us big time but didn’t expect anything anyway against an exceptional Swansea team. I also didn’t expect a point against S’hampton. Don’t be too downbeat lads, Swansea are one of the best teams in the league by a mile. Wish we had Montero, Gomis, Sigurdson and Ayew! 4 top class players.

  • 14 Graeme // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:05 PM

    Nothing wrong with the team Mcclaren has today – other than he has exactly the same defense that has leaked goals at a ridiculous rate for THREE YEARS – other than the addition of a 20 year old (ish) CB.

    Collo was utterly useless today and if they dont sort it out before the window closes, we will struggle all season, just as we have in the previous three.

  • 15 Nufc-83 // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:05 PM

    Noel I would agree with that and like to see the combination but really really worried with mitro temperament

  • 16 roblee7 // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:06 PM

    Swansea a prime example of how to progress. Don’t sell your best players and if you do, replace with better (Gomis). Very jealous of the Swans I am 🙁

  • 17 Tsunki // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:07 PM

    Ayew at 5’9″ is a goliath to our defenders. I’d investigate his socks for springs.

  • 18 roblee7 // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:07 PM

    Graeme – My blood boiled when I found out Colo has another year….on what basis? How has he earned that?? Reminds me of the numerous contracts given to Taylor, Ameobi, etc. Mindless

  • 19 welshgeordie9 // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:08 PM


    Taylor only because he gets injured
    At the moment question mark over sissoko.

  • 20 lochinvar // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:08 PM

    Mclaren “This is the only lesson we can learn from today ?”
    No – there are many
    A. Answer: we need a new CB
    B. Answer: we need a new VOCAL Captain
    C. Answer : we need to change our mindset

  • 21 welshgeordie9 // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:09 PM

    Ffs i forgot about colo

    Ha ha ha

  • 22 roblee7 // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:09 PM

    Not to mention Pardews 8 year mega deal. Again, on what basis? One good season? Who the hell dishes these contracts out? Idiots

  • 23 Nufc-83 // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:09 PM

    Think of the positives. It may give charley a kick up the hoop to bring more in as if we can’t compete with Swansea top half is not a reality at all.

  • 24 beefman13 // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:10 PM

    Get Arma back, best not we will fcuk him up as well.Joking aside our midfield though needs some serious bite, toothless beyond belief.

  • 25 lochinvar // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:10 PM

    Think about it.
    Swansea !

  • 26 9 // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:11 PM

    C’mon boys: 2 matches (against not world-class teams) 4 goals conceded. Can anyone advise whree we need to strengthen further in the next fortnight?

  • 27 Noel Worst // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:11 PM

    Think Mitro’s temper is being amped up due to the two situations he has been thrown in to and he is agitated as he wants to impress but can’t when the team is shot like last week or down to 10 and out of it like today.

    Looking back at the incident today, he didn’t do anything other than get up quick and look menacing lol. He was fouled, he didn’t raise his arms or anything, actually Taylor did, think his rep is already preceding him.

    Start him and Perez. Perez was pining for a strong partner last season and Mitro will enjoy playing next to somebody with a similar tenacity to himself. Would be a great partnership I think.

  • 28 Belfast // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:11 PM

    Charlie Austin next article claxon!

    He’s just spoken to Sky Sports

  • 29 Jail for Ashley // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:12 PM

    What owner in the WORLD would have made the decision to get worse after doing so well by chance, what mindset is that, has it really changed ?

  • 30 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:14 PM

    I am not sure buying one or two players will solve anything…would still be a nice addition!

    …we are continuing down the same road as under Pardew! There had been small changes but nothing that has an impact!

    I will assume the new coaches (backroom) will have an impact at some point.

  • 31 John Tudor // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:14 PM

    we all learn i did i wont go back till he fcuks orf

  • 32 Klatoon // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:15 PM

    Everyone banging on about Mitro but if you ask me, he has that risky edge all great players (especially strikers) possess. And that tackle that riled him was a potential season-ender if his foot was firmly planted on the ground.

  • 33 Jib // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:15 PM

    Last week Ayoze Perez picked up an award for NUFC’s goal of the season (the backheel flick against WBA) yet still has to play one minute of first team footy this season.
    Come on Steve FFS
    Please please please
    You promised clean slates for all
    Don’t prove yourself to be nothing but a gobshite like your predecessors.
    It will break my heart if your detractors are proved right

  • 34 JackButler // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:19 PM

    Didn’t see the game, apart from the obvious did we do okay?
    How did Gini and Mbemba do?

  • 35 Fostino // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:22 PM

    I think we learned a bit today. We need a defender badly. We need a bit more than colback and Anita in the middle. Cisse was pants. Perez and arrons should be getting more game time. Swansea have passed us out. They have a nice solid set up. Credit to monk. Why put 2 cb on tbe bench..bench was badly picked. Are the likes of vuckic. ..marvo going to get a chance

    On another note. .great to see Armstrong get 2 more goals today.

  • 36 WWSBRD // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:25 PM

    Oh no we were terrible mate Mbemba was good but not sure Gini was on the pitch

  • 37 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:26 PM


  • 38 JackButler // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:26 PM


    Thanks mate, were they glaring errors for the goals?

  • 39 Noel Worst // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:29 PM

    A proper strike partnership! That leaves you to play either 35-2 or 4-4-2

    _____Mbemba__Dawson__Van Dijk

    Michael Dawson is a leader, vocal, very strong in the air and Hull had a solid defence despite going down. 11th best I believe.

    Van Dijk will be heavily coveted.

    Could do with a Colback upgrade in that team.

    A reasonable fantasy.

    I just hope McClaren doesn’t become rigid in his approach like Pardew and remain hell bent on this 4-2-3-1 even when it’s not working like today. Should have changed it much earlier and not risked Janmaat making it to half-time, if he even was planning on subbing him at all. Take the initiative Schteve!

    We’re going to really rue Colo staying I feel. Feels like we haven’t made the clean break we all wanted with him still lingering around, especially as the least imposing mute captain we’ve ever had.

  • 40 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:30 PM

    And I also think we learned…again…that this 4-2-3-1 are doing us no good!

    …I thought SM was a 4-3-3 kind of manager (we are yet to see that though)

    Jib…so your last paragraph is basically your problem! Explains alot.

  • 41 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:31 PM

    JB…they were good goals mate. Don’t think it’s fair to blame either Colo nor Mbembe.

  • 42 Belfast // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:33 PM

    I would start the serb if he wears a muzzle.

    Can’t see McClaren starting him anytime soon to be honest.

  • 43 Noel Worst // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:34 PM

    1st goal – Janmaat playing Gomis onside , Mbemba diving in, when the less riskier option would’ve been to track Gomis and force him wide so Krul could come out with more confidence, Colo was awol in all this and Colback didn’t ut enough pressure on the ball.

    2nd goal – Mbemba beaten by Montero too easily (he did get a good grip on him after that but the damage was already done). CBs nowhere to be seen when the cross came in, again slack marking in the heart of our defence and Colo put in a token challenge on Ayew, Krul remained stuck to his line as usual.

  • 44 Belfast // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:35 PM

    Like so

  • 45 JackButler // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:36 PM

    Jesper Noel

    Thanks lads

  • 46 OneAlanShearer // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:36 PM

    The only reason I can see schteve persisting with obertan and Colo is to make charnley see we have gaps. We are in dire need of a centre back. We also need a winger or striker who can do both. I also think we need more than anything a playmaker who can sit deep and dictate play.

    The winger I’d buy is Nathan Redmond.
    The centre back I’d buy is someone like Stefan De vrij or Bruno martins indi.
    Playmaker….cabaye! Still haven’t related him.

    Full back cover required.
    Better goal keeper to challenge Krul

    We haven’t needed a plaster…We have needed major surgery this summer but as per usual we get just enough to stay up in the old Ashley gamble….A poor defence, a hit and miss supply, a flawed attack. Yep we are good to go….One of the most unbalanced squads in the PL…safc being worse.

  • 47 WWSBRD // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:38 PM

    1st Janmaat played Gomis onside (though he still looked offside to me) and 2nd Mbemba lost their winger cross in Saylor miles away from Colo who is marking Gomis and Ayew

  • 48 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:38 PM

  • 49 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:39 PM

    This blog cracks me up. Swansea are fantastic. Oh well. Only Man Utd and Arsenal to come.

  • 50 WWSBRD // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:40 PM

    Ayew scores I should of had that

  • 51 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:40 PM

    OneAlanShearer has cracked it. He’s calling for a whole new team.

  • 52 John Tudor // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:41 PM

    only one lesson
    think again macca at least two competent proven defenders required if not three

  • 53 Nufc-83 // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:41 PM

    Another point is if we are to persist with cool and mbemba then we need a gk who commands his area not a shot stopper who won’t leave his goal. Would happily trade Tim in for someone who is average at all aspects rather than being a top shot stopper but terrible at commanding area and distribution.

  • 54 John Tudor // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:42 PM

    blackeye join welshie and support THEM

  • 55 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:44 PM

  • 56 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:44 PM

    We absolutely need to find a way to motivate and prepare the team. We utterly blown away by a far superior team today, and on paper they really shouldn’t be.

    Secondly, a central midfielder in the Cabaye mould is essential to any success we want to achieve. Colback and Anita might be just about fine for open home games, but away from home against good sides they are next to useless. We need quality there and Wijnaldum isn’t that.

    He’s a counter attack player he feeds on movement into the pockets of space. We need a dictator, Shelvey killed us today.

  • 57 Noel Worst // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:45 PM

    Been harsh on Krul for the 2nd goal, as it was going away from goal, but there were other instances in the match where he remained rooted when he could have come for it. He used to be so confident and positive, dunno what’s happened to him.

  • 58 magpiesi // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:45 PM

    Think we need to have two players upfront somehow either 3 at the back or a diamond in midfield.

    Swansea cb’s had that much time without a player 10 yards near them once pressed two players became free else where mainly Montero as Ayew started going along side Gomis pining Colo and Mbemba leaving Sigurdson free around edge of box.

    We all know Cisse is a poacher on his day and not a hold up player so will be shocked if it’s not Mitrovic next week and keep Cisse for Home games or off the bench in 2nd half not his game with back to goal.

  • 59 the broons // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:45 PM

    I don’t understand where are all the haidaira haters this week? Ahh hald on a minute is it because the rest of our defence were worse that he escapes criticism this week?

  • 60 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:46 PM

    If we don’t buy a defence in the next fortnight we are F**cked – big style.
    I know everyone thinks Williamson is Shite but I’ll ask you the question would he got to Long’s header last week and Ayew this week??????/

  • 61 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:46 PM

    Noel Worst
    Colo was AWOL? If you’re using the words “Colo” and “AWOL” in the same sentence, it must mean you’re speaking my language.

  • 62 will die for the toon army // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:46 PM

    We are still learning from a bottom team to a top 4 team that is going to take us a decade.

    Except if we open the cheaque book.

    Buy a New CB, RB and LB. Thats all we need.

    And may b we can compete in the top half. Now we are a top 15 side. We cant get relegated.

    I think we r better than Norwich, Sunderland, Bournemouth, Watford, Aston Villa.

  • 63 yoann // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:47 PM

    Spirit missing from team, no clear leader. Could of used Guti on the pitch or sideline. He may have slowed a step but his spirit was never say die infectious.

  • 64 beefman13 // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:47 PM

    Belfast good call on Mitrovic, that muzzle could do the job, i can see that bugga getting wheeled on like Hannibal Lechter haha!

  • 65 Noel Worst // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:48 PM

    Yeah, Krul’s dodgy kicking, especially early on in games, sure won’t help inspire confidence. He did a particularly cack one today inside 5 mins under no pressure.
    Worst distribution I can remember for a GK, not just by PL standard.

  • 66 Tsunki // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:50 PM

    No no there’s no reason to suppose we should be competing with the might of Swansea. Three Windows remember. Three Windows.

  • 67 ronjohno // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:54 PM

    NOEL WORST agree entirely re Mitro.
    Reminds me of Gazza in Spurs v Notts Forest Cup Final.
    All syked up – no excuse though.
    Cannot believe we pay £14 mill and dont play him from the start.
    Also why not with ten men ATTACK – we never gave Swansea anything to think about.
    Comments where I watched even got as bad as Mclaren being Pardew/Carver in a mask.

  • 68 edtheduck // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:55 PM

    Watched on TV live in Canada… They looked sluggish from the start… Anita played nice and tidy, new CB Memba was immense and Krul solid after that awful… Should have taken Daryl off sooner, could have already had second yellow before he got one, both stupid challenges deep in opposition half, why bother!? Case was shocking , no touch, can’t pass, no effort…

  • 69 will die for the toon army // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:57 PM

    We are a poor team now I admit. Top 15 tops.

  • 70 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:57 PM

    Do miss this sometimes though

  • 71 JackButler // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:58 PM

    To be fair on SM, it’s impossible to think he can right all that’s wrong with this squad in one window, he’d need a hundred million to make a dent in the mess that Ashley, Pardew, Carr and Charnley have created

  • 72 Tsunki // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:59 PM

    Until we get some key personnel in its still square pegs round holes. If this is our business done I think toonbrother may well achieve prophet status regardless of who plays. 🙂

  • 73 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:59 PM

    I watched in corbridge. Pretty poor. How were they in Canada?

    Is Toonbrother’s star in the adcendancy over there too?

  • 74 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:01 PM

    JB…instead of calling me Jesper Noel just call me Father Christmas 😉 lol


    *that was a poor joke – Belfast standard!

  • 75 JackButler // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:02 PM


    It was supposed to say Jesper and Noel

    But Santa it is from now on 🙂

  • 76 Belfast // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:02 PM

    He won’t start the Serb aka Charles Bronson because he can’t trust him.

    Apparently he had a word with him after last week. That definitely worked.. 🙂

  • 77 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:04 PM

    68Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:53 PM

    Welsh- The Toon were poor from start to finish, We really didn’t look at any time that we wanted to take the initiative and seek to control of the game – a spiritless performance.
    You rightly corrected those that suggested that you won down the flanks. Shelvey was allowed to knock balls about with no pressure much for keeping a high line and pressing. All in all we got off lightly as a 5-0 drubbing would have been about right on the balance of play. Swansea carried on where they left off against Chelsea and I was again impressed by Montero as I had said prior to the game he Gomis and Ayew would cause us problems. You are certainly playing some good football and talk of an average team is silly because you might well be but one that is a form team and we failed to play a pressing game to knock you out of your stride.
    In reality after the second goal we looked simply to damage limitation- spiritless. Janmatt above all else – he seemed to almost give up long before departing for good. I was surprised that Macca didn’t bring on Mitrovic earlier to give us more of presence up front because Cisse just didn’t feature. I recognise Belfast’s issue of him being a red card waiting to happen but we need some aggression in the side.

    Mbemba did OK , but we need a commanding CB – we’ve got the smallest back four in the PL. In two games that’s 3 headed goals we have conceded. Additionally we need a full back – just who was Macca going to replace Janmaat with – Anita he is overrated by many in my opinion. Colback was one of our better players without having a particularly good game.

    With a run of tough fixtures to come this was a demoralising showing and we have far too many players still short of full fitness- let’s show some fight and spirit. Talk of 3-5-2 would make sense against ManU
    with full backs becoming more attacking re- designated as midfielders and play them higher up the pitch. ManU have not overly impressed and what have we got to lose. Let’s at least compete.
    So the Board should approve a CB, FB, ST ( Austin scored) – but why not Berahino( ?) and another experienced wide/ winger to get behind back fours. Obertan did OK incidentally.

  • 78 Belfast // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:05 PM

    If he ever does start, the red card bet on Sky Bet is very appealing.

  • 79 Tsunki // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:06 PM

    Biffa Bacon is costing me fantasy prem points. At this rate he’ll get a ban from collecting yellows and probably won’t have totalled a full game played

  • 80 Jail for Ashley // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:07 PM

    John Anderson and Mick Martin are well paid pundits, they talked about square pegs in round holes when having to switch things around, we are ill informed bloggers that have have come to the same conclusion.
    Ashley Out!

  • 81 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:07 PM

    Tsunki…I have Janmaat in my team 🙁

  • 82 Mag_jack // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:08 PM

    Anyone know anything about sissokos injury?? Could be a blessing in disguise. I reckon a forward line of perez, Aarons and mitrovic (PAM) would be pretty lethal.

  • 83 WWSBRD // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:08 PM

    Everyone is very upset but is it not a little encouraging that with 10 men for most of the game we kept the score at 2 nil? Under Pards et al it would of been 6+

  • 84 Tsunki // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:08 PM

    Not fit for the start of a season? How much do they get paid for hitting the gym and all those spa treatments and massages? Life as a footballer is hell.

  • 85 Tsunki // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:09 PM

    Jesper, you have my pity.

  • 86 Jib // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:10 PM

    This is all getting a bit silly.
    The ref was very inconsistent
    He totally went OTT with Mitro’s booking , yet when Gomis did a clear over the top studs up on Haidara he didn’t even speak to him.

  • 87 Belfast // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:10 PM

    Ian I see what you mean about me being such a good source of information.

    44Belfast // Aug 15, 2015 at 7:44 AM

    Where’s the dirty tricks in that Ian?

    I’m going for a defeat myself 2-0 Swansea are a good side.

  • 88 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:11 PM

    Look on the bright side. SDJ to come back. I’m told he’s a quality player. Also, it’s a lovely evening in Northumberland. Time for old Blackley to take a stroll in the wildflower meadow.

  • 89 WWSBRD // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:11 PM

    Ott with Mitrovic’s yellow? What?

  • 90 Belfast // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:13 PM

    Jib I really couldn’t care about Gomis to be honest. The Serbian could have been sent off within seconds two weeks on the trot. I’ve seen players sent off for less many times.

  • 91 KevinLee // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:14 PM

    Learn LLM

  • 92 Tsunki // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:14 PM

    Trois fenêtres.

  • 93 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:15 PM

    You not expecting Ashley to deliver a horse then?

    A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse.

  • 94 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:19 PM

    Belfast – You don’t let your heart rule your head and your ruthless when it comes to skinning the bookies. Whereas I am just a soft hearted …. I would have won a tidy sum until Stoke fought back against Spurs.
    I never back the toon because it’s a license to lose money. Already I am thinking of a draw against ManU-

  • 95 James RS // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:29 PM

    We were outplayed with 11 men in the first half and 10 men in the second… No excuses just not good enough tactically . More bodies needed and more homework on the opposing team.

  • 96 Belfast // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:31 PM

    Wwsbrd He stamped on Taylors leg? That’s what I seen anyway.

  • 97 WWSBRD // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:34 PM

    Me too am not quite sure what Jib saw like?

  • 98 Belfast // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:36 PM

    I think some people thought he got booked for pushing but he actually stamped on Taylors leg beforehand and that’s why Taylor jumped up.

  • 99 Belfast // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:40 PM

    Manxpie will probably be on later to give his unbiased view of the proceedings. 🙂

  • 100 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:41 PM

    I thought Mitro was booked for his reaction? We got the free kick didn’t we?

  • 101 Jail for Ashley // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:44 PM

    To be honest, I’ve only ever used this blog because of your great source of information and because of your ruthless tips on how to win money at the bookies.
    Me and my mate were passing through Doncaster train station the other week and there were a huge contingent of suspect looking train spotters hanging around, most of them made me think of your biggest fan !

  • 102 lukes26 // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:44 PM

    am i crazy for thinking we could use someone like danny simpson in the squad?

    i remember he could completely shut down players like Bale. obviously no end product, but could have used him today and any other time we play an elite winger

  • 103 WWSBRD // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:45 PM

    I think he did get booked for the reaction

  • 104 the broons // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:48 PM

    I feel like mitrovic is starting to build himself a bit of a reputation of a naughty lad which will work against him cos automatically referees will look for the slightest reason to start dishing out cards.

    Hopefully the lad works on his temperament a bit, having said that people that say they wouldnt have him ahead of cisse? Yeah cisse pops up with the odd goal every now and then but thats literally ALL he gives you. And even after todays horror show am still confident that a new centre back and we would be in a really solid position still this season.

  • 105 bluetoon // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:50 PM

    Ageing 34 year old Colo competing against fast athletic forwards in their early to mid 20’s is asking for it .Opposing teams are very well aware of this and will continue to exploit this on an ongoing basis.

  • 106 Belfast // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:52 PM

    Jail to be honest I always secretly new you only used the blog because of my great information.

  • 107 Jail for Ashley // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:53 PM

    He’s obviously not a nice guy looking at what’s happened to him, but we should definitely have a player with potential now being able to cover Jaanmat, and if he does well, like he should, keep Jaannatt out of the team for his stupidity !

  • 108 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2015 at 8:54 PM

    Belfast -Is this like back to the future?
    Can you please give me the results of our future games against
    Man U away
    Northampton – home
    Arsenal – home
    West Ham – away.

  • 109 John Tudor // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:01 PM

    what we have at the back is shite apart from mbemba

  • 110 hibbit // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:02 PM

    ian thats easy with this lot,,,,,,,LLLL

  • 111 John Tudor // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:03 PM

    4-0 manure
    1-0 northampton aet
    0-3 arsehols
    3-0 west ham
    =rock bottom

  • 112 Nufc-83 // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:09 PM

    Wow it’s got so bad people are asking for Danny Simpson. This must be a dire situation if that’s the case.

  • 113 welshgeordie9 // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:16 PM

    That’s an easy one to answer John.

    S Taylor

    I’m sure you could have worked that out, no offence.

  • 114 John Tudor // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:16 PM

    spend the clubs money you fat ugly git

  • 115 Grumpy // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:16 PM

    2 games 4 goals let in, thank god for sunderland.

  • 116 welshgeordie9 // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:18 PM

    Danny Simpson wasn’t that bad, shouldn’t have sold him or Perch.

  • 117 Nufc-83 // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:22 PM

    Danny Simpson and perch lmao this is killing me!!!

  • 118 John Tudor // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:22 PM

    your having a laff now u wum

  • 119 welshgeordie9 // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:26 PM

    They are rubbish apart from mbemba, that’s why we have conceded so many goals season after season, Simpson and perch over those players any day of the week.

  • 120 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    “Sunderland, have bought well and sorted out their defence”?

  • 121 Thump // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:35 PM

    To be completely honest, I’d take Simpson as a backup now. Currently we have… well, nobody. Anita, Colback, Saylor, or Mbemba. Saylor purely there because he covered at RB a few years back.

  • 122 Nufc-83 // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:35 PM

    Stop it Welsh these are new levels of trolling

  • 123 Thump // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    I have to agree with Jib regarding Jones’ refereeing. He was very inconsistent and quite lenient on Swansea for the most part (Ayew’s first challenge on Haidara springs to mind).

    Not that I’m complaining too much, like. We were lucky it was only 2-0.

  • 124 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:39 PM

    Welsh – your boys are on a roll and mackems next.

  • 125 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:40 PM

    Welsh – Are you watching the rugby?

  • 126 cyprus // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:40 PM

    Was this as poor as the Pardew days? You bet.

    As fans have decided, is Jan captain material? Absolutely not.

    Our defense is crap and he’s part of it.

  • 127 cyprus // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:44 PM

    Steve, tactically you were thrashed. Give yourself a 2/10. Get to work.

  • 128 welshgeordie9 // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:49 PM

    Ian Toon

    I’m watching England against France, quite a good match.

  • 129 Offkey // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:49 PM

    Blackly – sometimes you talk sense, most of the time your just a wum………please try harder

  • 130 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:50 PM

    “Only One Lesson We Can Learn From Today”

    The team is shite and we need a replacement go the entire back line and wingers.

    Lousy performance once again. Relegation battle for sure.
    If Ashley does not buy NOW with more evidence than ever before that we are in deep sh1t.

  • 131 BandB // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:51 PM

    There was certainly an element of master v apprentice about it…

  • 132 welshgeordie9 // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:52 PM

    Ended 19-14 to England very close but exciting match.

  • 133 JAMSHA // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:53 PM

    well i was right about our 2-0 loss

  • 134 JAMSHA // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:53 PM

    b preprd nxt game a 5-0 smashng

  • 135 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:53 PM


    100% with you.

    That match was horror. How can Iberian play???? How is Willo on bench???? Where is our key CB? ow he is playing in CL with Roma, he is not possibly WORSE than Colo.

    This window closes without a quality CB Ashley would be lying again. Thats where I draw the line with NUFC.

  • 136 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:54 PM

    Iberian = Obertan sry

  • 137 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:55 PM


    I believe so.

  • 138 BandB // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:56 PM

    It will be interesting to see how much effort we put into the cup game, given where it sits.

    Fingers crossed that Perez, Mitrovic. De Jong and Aarons can make a case while we rest our stars.

  • 139 welshgeordie9 // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:57 PM

    Anything can happen next weekend at Old Trafford I mean didn’t we beat them last season at their ground.

  • 140 Offkey // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:57 PM

    Blackly – in Portugal we seemed to play alright until the sending off.

  • 141 welshgeordie9 // Aug 15, 2015 at 9:58 PM

    I can’t wait till we play the mackems, i would get mitrovic to do the team talk.

    Ha ha ha

  • 142 JAMSHA // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:00 PM

    hopefully we atleast get 3 quality players in, 1CB, LB, RW

  • 143 belgrade fan // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:01 PM


    pa ti se jos nerviras zbog ovix?? a sta si mislio, da ce kupiti 6-7 igraca pa vec 5-6 ix je poslao na pozajmice ili ugovor aj cao. kupio 3 da ostanemo u ligi I rekao treneru kazi da si zadovoljan I cao

  • 144 welshgeordie9 // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:02 PM

    Right I’m off to watch swans vs newcastle on match choice, make my own mind up.

  • 145 GeordieTwo // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:03 PM

    Oh and another thing. I’ll admit there was a narrow window of time of about 90 minutes in the match when we didn’t play well. But other than that wor game plan was excellent. The warmup was good. Lots of…..well, errm warming up etc. etc. So just keep the proper perspective you lot!!! Harrumph.

  • 146 GeordieTwo // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:05 PM

    Who are the stars we will be resting BandB mate @137? The exciting Siem de Jong? The brilliant Remy Cabella? The mighty Willo? I just need to know so I can relax, knowing our stars are not dead yet, just resting……

  • 147 JAMSHA // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:08 PM

    Full Replay in HD ..Just Regester Its Free…U can Stream All Our Live Games ,,100x Better Than any Stream

  • 148 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:09 PM

    It’s humour that gets you through the black times. You seem to be getting the hang of it @139.

  • 149 GeordieTwo // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:09 PM

    Can’t believe some of you moaners. We looked very bright up until the kickoff. Some excellent stretching on the sidelines etc. etc……

  • 150 GeordieTwo // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:11 PM

    I also thought Steve looked relaxed and confident throughout. That’s the way to do it Steve!!!

  • 151 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:12 PM

    belgrade fan

    Ej bre ma jebem im mater pedersku. Ne treba niko da dodje na utakmice i aj cao. Mamu mu jebem debelu svinjsku.

    Ovo je stvarno jadno.

  • 152 OneAlanShearer // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:12 PM

    B&B – nope 3 first team players with a few squad players. We are like a team who have just come up. We are starting with inadequate players passed their best. I honestly feel that Watford and Norwich are better prepared and balanced than we are. We have a number of quality players but gaps all over the place. Colo is finished…how the he’ll can’t they see that. We NEED 3 players but ideally more. 3 key players keeps the wolf from the door.

    The list of inadequate players is far longer than those that aren’t.

  • 153 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:12 PM


    😀 Love it!

  • 154 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:14 PM

    I’d be happy to take the blog’s darling Janmaat as a back up.

  • 155 GeordieTwo // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:14 PM

    Just doing my best to keep wor spirits up gorgonzola mate! 😆

  • 156 brklyngeordie // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:14 PM

    Think what we learned from today is that when we play a good passing team we need to have 2 strikers up front to pressure the ball in back and need Tiote for teams with midfield passers like Shelvey no way he couldnt do a better job of making it harder then Anita and Colback in the tackling dept.

    Really wish sissoko had a better awarness for passing on the counter he makes some runs that seem like here we go got numbers and then his sense of timing for a pass leaves much to be desired he is frustrating and great so torn when i watch him w ball

  • 157 GeordieTwo // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:19 PM

    Sing along with me mates:
    I’ve got those Norwegian Bues!!
    Oh baby I’ve got those Norwegian Bluuuuuoooooesss!
    I know we’re just resting baby!
    But I’ve still got those Norwegian Bluesssss!

  • 158 belgrade fan // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:21 PM


    covek radi isto vec koliko godina. ulozi taman toliko da ostanu u ligi. ti jednom Kolociniju koji je katastrofa das novi ugovor da bi ustedeo na novom igracu I cuvas tejlora I vilijamsona!!!!! jadno. necu ni 1 tekmu da gledam ko I prosle sezone, nek gledaju ovi debili sto se loze dal cemo da budemo 12i ili 15i. sad je neko Svansi pojam za nas

  • 159 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:21 PM

    😀 😀 😀

  • 160 GeordieTwo // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:24 PM

    I really do have those Norwegian Blues…… 🙁

  • 161 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:24 PM

    belgrade fan

    Tacno to. Nisi mogao bolje da kazes. Stvarno je govnar Asli.
    Lik nema smisla. Umesto da stvarno MALO vise ulozi da pobedi nesto svi igraci bi dobili na ceni.

    Ali ne ide kroz najmanje moguce, odurno to me uzasno nervira i jebote zasto MI?

    Da Swansea je sad club koji se ljudi dive Southampton isto tako, uzasno tuzno da ne poverujes.

    Ja se iskreno nadam da ce doci relegation u drugu ligu da sve pare pupusi stoka.

  • 162 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:26 PM

    Cyprus- We were put under pressure from the off and it seems to me that a number of our players are still trying to get up to speed – unfit and struggling to compete. We had a very poor pre season and currently catching up. Macca was highly critical of planned tour but had to get on with it. He’s a big fan of Opta and new all about what to expect from Swansea having trawled all over the Chelsea game. A number of us On here had in detail spelt it out- he’s renowned for meticulous detail.
    He is also trying to get across what he expects from individual players. We’ve also got a new CB pairing with our captain not match fit. and a few others adapting to what he expects from them – it’s important to remember that Mbemba and Coloccini are still finding out about each others game. Under Pardew and Carver given this scenario we would have taken a real drubbing. Biggest disappointment was that we played without spirit – given circumstances – I would not expect Janmaat substitution because Anita is not a right back. I would have subbed Cisse earlier. But I don’t lay the blame at Macca’s door.
    He was flummoxed in the post match interview and admitted that not a lot good had come from the game but he didn’t fall into needless management speak. Ultimately Swansea came out of the traps much quicker and put us under pressure from the off, but I think players are still finding their feet under McClaren and adapting to what he expects from them – it’s important to remember that Mbemba and Coloccini are still finding out about each other. Under previous managers, we would have folded completely in this game, so I’m glad we at least kept the score down (which is very depressing to write).
    I’m glad that the vast majority of fans are behind McClaren and I think there are signs that he can do a good job here, but he needs proper backing from his superiors. At the very least, 3 more quality players are needed. He’s not going to admit that he’s got 4/5 players in his squad that are not fully match fit.
    The new Board need to back him with three more quality players ideally defensively minded because that’s the priority.
    Finally Colback ran his heart out – I would like to have Dunk in the side before our day out in Manchester..

    Belfast – de Jong? He seems to have ongoing fitness issues.

  • 163 GeordieTwo // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:26 PM

    Putting on the Thong of Gloom and wearing it around the house all day is no laughing matter. Harrumph!

  • 164 belgrade fan // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:27 PM

    necemo ispasti, samo prezivljavanje I trener koji filozofira kako radimo iza scene, jurimo prave igrace itd itd, a u stvari nista. zato I ne gledam nista. cekam da se zvrsi prelazni rok I da vidim sta cemo uraditi. ako nikoga vise ne dovedemo cao zdravo sto cu da gledam

  • 165 GeordieTwo // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:30 PM

    Ooh, ooh baby!
    We’ve all got those Norwegian Blues
    We know wor lads are just restin’
    But we’ve got those Norwegian Bluuuuuue’s

  • 166 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:31 PM

    Ian Toon

    mate you are in such denial that you are believing your desperate excuses for the club.

    But you don’t have to fool yourself any longer. The club in reality is in dire straits. We needed top rated CB’s with pedigree for 25 years and we still don’t have them.

    Giving Colo a contract is suicidal, seeing his mistakes his poor movements, players side stepping him like he is an old lady is just hard to watch.

    Why are they ALL out of the blocks and up to speed faster than us? Why cause we cannot win a game in the damn US.

    We are currently a Championship side. Look out for the next 5 games we are about to get mauled.

    It’s a sad thing what happened to a once great club. Truly.

  • 167 beermonkey // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:33 PM

    ian toon

    yeah I agree with that most disappointing and one of the highlights of last week was when we went one down last week we kicked on, this week it seemed to ko us

    even before the sending off it looked like we were a man down

  • 168 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:34 PM

    “necemo ispasti”

    Toga se i bojim. Kapiraj lika koji nije kupio jednog igraca od recimo 20 miliona Evra. Znaci kljucnog igraca koji menja utakmice.

    Recimo jednog veznog igraca koji razbija. Danas gde Chelsea kupuje igrace koji kostaju ko pola nase ekipe mi miramo barem jednog igraca da kupimo koji je zvezda.

    I ja cekam prelazni rok ali kao sto kazes nista se nece dogoditi to je biti muka cele godine.

  • 169 GeordieTwo // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:35 PM

    The club is full of dead wood right to the top. Ashley will begin hiding again as we slide further down the table. We should be able to recover somewhat after the first 7 games but with players like Willo, and Colo, still in the squad and sick notes like De Jong, and Saylor hanging about we will have a very difficult struggle again this season. Gorgonzola is right. Prepare for a long nasty struggle to nowhere.

  • 170 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:36 PM

    Our players might be unfit but that doesn’t matter because we’ve been working with the ball in pre season – according to one enlightened blogger this week. I was told I’m a dinosaur for suggesting our players need a grueling pre-season if they’re going to compete with other clubs who work on their fitness at this time of year. Never mind. I’m learning.

  • 171 GeordieTwo // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:37 PM

    Dead wood can’t be hidden beermonkey mate. We’ve got loads of the stuff. A weak squad full of pocket lint. Double what we’ve already spent this summer and you might have a mid table club.

  • 172 belgrade fan // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:38 PM

    naravno. imas tog Abdenjuna, umes jos Viljemsa iz psv/a, krilo, ostina I eto ti tim. a imamo para da kupimo Mesija. ali nece da trosi. zato nista gledanje, samo dodjem da vidim rezultate. koji su sve gori I gori

  • 173 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:40 PM

    Look on the bright side. Sunderland have made an early booking for one of this season’s bottom slots.

  • 174 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:41 PM

    Teams like Swansea, Southampton, even West Ham now have surpassed us and more are doing so.

    Half the players that we are linked with are scoring goals against us.
    Its hilarious actually its like a dream.

    Its the second game of the season for sure. But the sings are very clear truth be told. We let in too many the first game, the away games are going to be crucial and we are letting in more and more goals.

    How much proof will be needed that we nee a defensive overhaul, 5:0, 6:0, 3:0 games?

    I am in disbelief.

  • 175 beermonkey // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:42 PM


    given our injury record last season would it have been wise to beast the players for the first 10 days
    I am not so sure

    problem is it took to long to get McLaren and his staff in most of his staff were only employed around a week before the players come back

    I know its a short summer break this year but with new manager coming I would have liked to have the baulk of the team back a week early

  • 176 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:43 PM

    belgrade fan

    Tacno tako. Ja posle ove ne gledam samo gledam razultate takodjer.
    Nema smisla se nervirati.

  • 177 belgrade fan // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:45 PM

    ma nista, sta te boli uvo oce biti 12i ili 15i. sledecix par tekmi nece ni bod uzeti. glupa prica. ako kupe par igraca ok, ali to se nece desiti

  • 178 beermonkey // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:46 PM


    yeah we need a fire to get shot of our dead wood

    it took a while to get the 3 we have got and the window aint shit yet I just hope were shopping and not just looking

  • 179 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:46 PM

    What really grinds my gears is.

    The club does not agree with an evaluation for a player.

    Get over yourselves, those players are smashing us out of the park.
    Does that meet your evaluation yet? But for some reason nobody can match the evaluation price of Williamson.

    Few more days and the truth will be clear again as to how our transfer business has really been.

  • 180 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:48 PM

    Anyhow I am off to bed, the torture of the season has truly begun.

  • 181 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:52 PM

    Blackley- We will survive all the early season trials and tribulations. Early season form is not always representative of the season as a whole. Last Sunday West Ham were good value for their victory at Arsenal. Yet they lose at home to Leicester today.
    I do hope this will move transfer business along .

  • 182 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:55 PM

    Just watching Lukaku. He looks fit.

  • 183 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:59 PM

    You forgot to mention we’re unbeaten at home this season.

  • 184 sing in the corner // Aug 15, 2015 at 10:59 PM

    Our Toon

    You poked fun earlier at people who were previously (in preseason) favouring Janmaat as a choice of next captain from the squad we currently have. Now he’s certainly dropped a massive clanger today, to go with his one from last week. But I would draw your attention to your own choice at the time: SDJ. ?? ;Ahaha,; as you would say. Captain? At least Janmaat takes to the field occasionally.

  • 185 Bri // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:01 PM

    Thinking about Mitrovic. Opposing defenders will now wind him up at every opportunity but will he be able to keep his cool? Time will tell.

  • 186 stan anderson // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:05 PM

    Everton fans want Kenwright out i would swap them Ashley no bother
    Ashley OOT

  • 187 martoon // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:06 PM

    Very disappointing today but a little early to start panicking and write off the whole team – we always knew we had a very tough start to the season and would probably only pick up a handful of points in the first few games!

  • 188 John Tudor // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:07 PM

    shocking buys you get what you paid for

  • 189 John Tudor // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:08 PM

    that could be the only point out of 24

  • 190 stan anderson // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:13 PM

    The fat slug does just enough to get the fans excited and buy tickets.We are the problem,we are just so gullable.
    The mackems showed their feelings buy getting off their arses and walking out.
    We just sit and take it because we are better fans haha.

  • 191 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:17 PM

    Ian Wright saying how much he likes Stephen Ireland because his first thought is to look forward to feed hiscstriker. The very point I was making the other day when I was bemoaning possession football, going sideways and back. Your first thought should always be look for your striker.

  • 192 jimmysmith // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:22 PM

    Losing two nil away with ten men for over half the match shouldn’t come as a shock, or create any real panic We aren’t up to speed, relative to the other clubs, thank goodness Carver is no longer around, even so that’s pretty hopeless. We have a tough start, and will likely have two or three points after 5 games, which is going to be a handicap that we probably can’t afford. However, the five games that follow will be a far better indicator of how our season will unfold, and after a poor start we are now likely to spend further. You just hope they have been seriously continuing to scout and negotiate.

  • 193 stan anderson // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:23 PM

    Just watching MOTD. and we are still shite are’nt we.
    Janmat wanted off because he was being skinned.

  • 194 Offkey // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:24 PM

    Blackley- you must have loved Williamson then…….punt. I get your meaning though.

  • 195 Bri // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:26 PM

    Hope we recover from those first 5 games especially if we get a couple of good hidings.

  • 196 Offkey // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:30 PM

    Jimmy- I don’t often agree with you ……but I have to this time. How can anybody turn a team that doesn’t play football and self destructs almost every game into one that is the complete opposite with 9nly a few weeks and only three players……….surely mc has to be applying pressure for players or he will forsee turning into the next paredew……just hope that he has more of a passion for a successful career than purely a payday

  • 197 Offkey // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:35 PM

    By the way, stevie does not have a get out of jail free card here. He needs to get to grips with the capabilities of what he has and quickly… selections and subs have been questionable imo but I am willing to give him time.

  • 198 overtheline // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:36 PM

    Ian Toon
    “At the very least, 3 more quality players are needed.”

    Two need to be defenders.
    And that’s the very minimum to be remotely competitive. Maybe we’ll be welded in 15th place most of the season.

  • 199 stan anderson // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:37 PM

    196 that is the question is S Mc just happy to be employed as head coach of a PREMIER LEAGUE club NUFC.

  • 200 toon kk // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    Everyone must remember we’ve still got the same basic squad that almost got us relegated.
    It will take far more than three new signings to revamp a basic squad which lacks pace and quality. Don’t get me wrong we have some good players but most wouldn’t be even near a bench at a top club.
    There’s a long way to go, but accept premier league survival as a successful season.

  • 201 Noel Worst // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    If there’s any truth we’re about to splurge £12m on Thauvin I give up.

  • 202 Belfast // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    It was like Janmatt had already decided he was going to have a mare before we’d even kicked off.

    Both his yellow cards where in the Swansea half, didn’t even need to make the challenge.

  • 203 Bri // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:41 PM

    Correct we are still shite. At least another 4 good quality players needed before progress can be made.

  • 204 Offkey // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:42 PM

    Stan- from what I have seen, even the slight adjustments noticeable in pre-season have given me hope. There at least new ideas to the club……not most of the others in the prem e.g defenders splitting and full backs pushing up. Yes, some lines are pard-esque and that does make me worry slightly but I am attempting to stay as positive as I can for as long as I can……

  • 205 Reyantoon // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:43 PM

    Reading through comments,seems like it was head scratching defeat.Did we look that awful?
    In the mean time,found this.we are about to land two new players :

    The other is Dutch lad,forgot his name!

  • 206 Belfast // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:43 PM

    Ian, De Jong coughs and he gets injured.

  • 207 Offkey // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:45 PM

    1 point from these games, did I expect more……not a chance. Predicted 12th this season with a low points total

  • 208 lochinvar // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:46 PM

    Sometimes I wonder if what we see as being blindly obvious is invisible to those in charge of the club.
    Bluetoon got it right earlier – why are we the only club to have retained a slow ageing and mute Captain as CB. He may have served as well in the past and loyalty is admirable but even Gerrard has gone to that great soccer nation over the water. Young fast athletic players playing with intent will rip static defences apart – just watched MOD and they showed numerous examples of that yet we persist with Colo. Cisse was out muscled and contributed little. Our attacking intent was reactive not proactive. I was hopeful after the back room sort out and the new players bought in so far but I’m now beginning to wonder if it’s a case of the king is dead long live the king. Impatient , maybe but when I see what Leicester, Swansea and even Stoke are conjuring up it bothers me. Should I be ?

  • 209 Offkey // Aug 15, 2015 at 11:46 PM

    Told you I was being positive

  • 210 jimmysmith // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:01 AM

    Newcastle have something like the seventh or eighth most valuable squad and wage bill. No way should this group of players and coaches find themselves in the bottom third. We’ve had decent players year in year out, but lacked depth. This squad looks better equipped on paper, but we do have a LOT of players who remain unproven. Cabella, Aarons, Obertan, Haidarra, Dummett, Mitrovic, Perez, De Jong, Mbemba, Riviera, Wijnaldum, Anita are not accomplished in the EPL. That’s a massive group, and of the established players, there are a number with injury and consistency concerns. The club does take risks in the transfer market, banking on young and untested but gifted players. I like the look of the players we have, but they come with no guarantees, which of course does indicate that it all going to hell in a hand basket is still possible. We need some established bankable signings, if we do elect to buy further.

  • 211 TheBossMan // Aug 16, 2015 at 3:18 AM

    If Mr.Mac only learned one thing from that game all I can say is we are in deep poo poo land already.
    1: Krul needs dropped to give him a kick up the backside.
    2: Playing CB’s 60 yds apart when one is as slow as a snail is never going to work.
    3: Playing 2 deep laying defensive midfielders sitting on top of back 4 is not allowing the defense to push out or ever be organised, apart from not giving us little or no attacking options.
    4: Because of above our new super hero Georginio is being asked to be a play maker and a late arriving forward, so late its no happening.
    5: A new 6ft plus commanding CB is needed NOW. along with another left back..
    6: Sissoko is not a right winger and never will be, does his best work coming from left side or free to roam..
    7: A Class play maker is needed NOW, oh for a Shelvey type..
    8: Need 2 forwards on the pitch…
    9: Need a team on the pitch that believe in themselves and to wear those strips with pride & passion.
    10: Send them out telling them to attack and let the other team worry about them, not with defeatist attitudes before a game kicks off…

    Make them sit and watch videos of The Entertainers Team so they know whats expected of them…

  • 212 Brutooon // Aug 16, 2015 at 3:38 AM

    Anita is useless, he is not a defensive midfield. the first goal, he should stop shelvey from the thru ball. he dont have any physical present and any opponent CM would get the easiest of all game.

    Colo – automatic selection since he is the captain. useless captain for 7 season, didnt even command from the back. didnt even shout.

  • 213 Ian Toon // Aug 16, 2015 at 7:33 AM

    Belfast – Good point about the two yellows being in the Swansea half. It could well be that he had been told to make his presence felt!

    Brutoon – I agree on Anita- stylish but without a physical presence which means playing in CM that Selvey ruled the roost. Colback was resolute and never stopped trying.

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