Who Was Newcastle’s Best Player Yesterday?


Let us know who you think Newcastle’s best player was yesterday in the 2-0 loss at Swansea, which gives us only one point from our first two games, but that’s  still one point more than Sunderland have managed.

We meet Manchester United at Old Trafford in the early game next Saturday – the game aren’t getting any easier.

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Who Was Newcastle's Best Player At Swansea?

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189 comments so far

  • Krul To Be Kind

    Aug 16, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #1

    Repost from 2 threads back as ed has evidently just had his coffee!

    As I said yesterday during the game I thought the ref was very harsh branding a second yellow to Janmatt without having the decency to pull him to one side and tell him he is on a final warningon a previous foul. Also the Mitro yellow card was a load of bull, yes he went in hard but he reacted to what the Swansea player said to him, he kept his hands down when he was being pushed, again another c**p decision by the ref.

    It’s not the end of the world but for me the sooner we upgrade Obertan and rid ourselves off Sissoko and his heartless displays the better.

    Why are we paying the guts of £15m for Thauvin when you could get Demerai Gray from Brum for a fraction of that and he is just as good, English, hungry and young.

    I like Macca and what he stands for and the very fact that he has footballing principles, a philosophy and very professional in what he does, starting with Cisse up top when we have spent £13m on Mitro to sit on the bench when you need a big lad up top to hold the ball up and relieve pressure against a team like Swansea, it was evident Swansea struggled to handle him during his cameo. I for one like the fight in this lad, we have lacked that for far 2 long but he needs to be handles with care, his desire will be infectious

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #2

    Ron Knee

    I would like to start mitrovic as potentially he offers a far more all round game to cisse but he seems so easy to wind up and teams will be looking to get under his skin all the time now.

    Krul to be kind

    Montero had janmatt on toast every time and he was very very lucky not to have received a second yellow when montero could have gone down in the box.

    Janmatt couldn’t get anywhere near him and a blind man could see what was coming and it was shockingly poor by SM not to realise that and get him off before the inevitable happened.

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  • hibbit

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #3

    ron we have to start him its the only pressure we have otherwise were in for a pounding …..why do we look so lethargic 2 games into the season

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  • Jib

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #4

    KRULTBK
    Don’t forget Jones is the ref who disallowed Tiotes perfectly good goal against M City after being harangued by their players.

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  • Ron Knee

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #5

    RH/hibbit
    So we agree on starting Mitrovic.

    We might – I stress might – see a little less OTT aggression from him if he started rather than was subbed.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #6

    jail

    but at least for me it’s a different obsession while you’re still stuck 8 years on.

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  • Krul To Be Kind

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #7

    Jib

    He is just poor, most times I’ve seen him he has been poor, not prem standard imo

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  • Marty-Toon

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #8

    Ok,hear me out before slating me.
    I believe although he’s been the defender beaten to the ball for two of this seasons goals let in that Collo is a decent defender.
    Remember he has had no pre season yet Mc Claren is choosing him.
    He had no chance against AYEW after 50 mins in the game,AYEW had the run and jump and you’ll get a lot higher with that naturally and he’s a top athlete.
    Collo IMO would be better used in DM as a lot of our problems are coming from there.
    Colback I see as a weak link in our team,although he got in a saving tackle last week to save a point.
    Yesterday again like last week,he let the opponent have too much room and time on the ball(while we were 10 men too)the ball is gone before he reacts.
    He was just walking and jogging around the pitch yesterday.
    He’s getting destroyed in there,maybe he needs a big man beside him to do the nitty gritty but I’ve seen nothing from him to merit and dancing in the streets,”he’s no Pirlo”

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  • Krul To Be Kind

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #9

    Ron

    I think the lad is chomping at the bit and that is why he appears a little reckless. He is just what the doctor ordered, we need fight in this team as we’ve lacked it for years and this lump of a lad has an abundance of it!

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  • Jib

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #10

    Fabianski : Krul,
    Naughton : Janmaat
    Fernandez : Mbemba,
    Williams : Coloccini
    Taylor : Haidara
    Cork : Anita
    Shelvey : Colback
    Ayew : Sissoko
    Sigurdsson : Wijnaldum,
    Montero : Obertan
    Gomis : Cisse

    Both managers played exactly the same formation and system
    Swansea played it like a second skin .
    Nufc played it like they’d learned it on Wednesday afternoon.
    When you see it laid out as above , some of the atch ups are frightening.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #11

    Ron

    I like SM and what he says he’s trying to do but at the end of the day his decision making as England boss etc has always been somewhat questionable. Great coach but possibly not a great manager at times when needing to be both pro and re-active.

    As I say early days so hopefully he will learn but he’s not a kid any more.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #12

    just think we could have had gomis and ayew! oh well.

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  • Offkey

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #13

    Marty- I am sure I remember pardew playing colo in midfield, from recollection I don’t think it worked well at all.

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  • Jib

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #14

    Their defence virtually had nowt to do all afternoon . Shelvey and Cork because of our only threat (!?) being up the wings could move from their DM role at will causing mayhem .
    We played with 9 men most of the afternoon because with Obertan in the side islike playing a man down to begin with.

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  • Ron Knee

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #15

    Krul
    I’d like to see Perez start with Mitrovic against Manure, but I fear it’s going to be damage-limitation mode once again.

    We shouldn’t be afraid of United. They’re not exactly brilliant, just lucky!

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  • Krul To Be Kind

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #16

    Rotund

    I would go as far as to say McC was needing half time to make tactical changes but Janmatts frustration didn’t allow for it to get that far, he should know better but he walks straight back into r/b after the Man Utd game because he has no competition!

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #17

    marty

    agreed, i really don’t see what colback brings in terms of creativity to be worthy of starting. a good squad player to come on yes to shore up games, but he’s no game changer in any sense.

    someone made a good point about mitro. maybe he is over trying coming off the bench, trying to do too much in limited minutes.

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  • Krul To Be Kind

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #18

    Ron

    A 442 would give Man Utd something to think about and could be the way forward!

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  • Ron Knee

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #19

    RH
    On McClaren’s decision-making: I’d like to think he planned to take Janmaat off at half-time!

    What a pity we don’t have a home fixture for the next match. Morale will be rock-bottom when we have to face the Ar*e.

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  • Ron Knee

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #20

    Krul
    Yes, I’d like to see that, but I doubt it’ll happen.

    Charmless, do something before the window slams shut!

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #21

    Jib

    That is really scary!!!!!

    Fabianski * maybe Krul
    Naughton
    Fernandez * maybe M’Bemba
    Williams
    Taylor :
    Cork
    Shelvey
    Ayew
    Sigurdsson * maybe Wijnadum
    Montero
    Gomis

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  • WWSBRD

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #22

    Krul to be Kind
    Mitrovic tried to stamp on Taylor then fronted up for a fight with him after he complained and needed to be dragged away, not sure it’s harsh to see a card for that. Also is it really needed to warn a player to stop doing things outside of the rules? Janmaat was quite possibly in double figures for fouls yesterday it seems to me he was pretty lenient on Janmaat tbh

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  • terencelim

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #23

    Ashley OUT

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  • Jib

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #24

    It is defo time for big Stevie Black to start getting inside some players heids and get to work.

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  • firebug666

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #25

    If Newcastle deserved the yellow cards we picked up yesterday and Janmaat’s red for shirt pulling, then you would have to say Swansea got off light. I seen a lot worse tackle wise against Haidara going unpunished especially in the second half whenever we tried to bring the ball out of our own half.

    I think the referee was lenient, but more so for Swansea.

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  • geordielad880

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #26

    BREAKING NEWS!!
    Soccer Sauce ?@soccer_sauce 12 hrs12 hours ago

    Breaking news this evening: Newcastle open talks with PSV for full back Jetro Willems #NUFC

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  • nut meg

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #27

    Marty
    Playing Collo as a DM is a long shot. Just because he looks good bringing the ball out from the back with no opposing players behind him doesn’t mean he can play in the DM position. He would have opposing players swarming all over him in DM so I doubt very much that it would work.Not all players can play while facing their own goal a lot of the time Many years ago one of our best fullbacks Davd Craig was being talked about moving into the MF to allow the up & coming John Craggs get into the team at fullback. Craigs answer was that he can’t play unless he’s facing up field, he was also one of the best fullbacks in British football.

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  • firebug666

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #28

    geordielad880

    I hope Soccer Sauce have this right mate, we need a decent LB asap.

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  • Ron Knee

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #29

    firebug
    You’re right about the ref. All our sins were punished; theirs weren’t.

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  • BandB

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #30

    We sat far two deep from the outset. Swansea’s defenders were playing in the space our midfielders should have been in.
    Get used to the fact Obertan is going to play at least until Dummett is fit or another player is bought. He fits the old Gutierrez role the Pardew utilised, in what was a set-up frighteningly similar to a Pardew one. In many ways way can measure the progress of our squad by the fact Obertan is now a key player and no longer looks less effective than his team-mates.
    We did try to play it around for while, but soon resorted to trying to find Obertan and Sissoko with outlet balls. Sissoko cannot dribble. If he can’t barge his way through, he is beat. He and Obertan were guilty of being easily shrugged off the ball and jogging after the player who had dispossessed them.
    Central midfield was not at the races. Anita was neat in tidying up scraps, but little else. Colback again ran around like piggy in the middle, the ball always gone before he closed his player down.
    Cisse cannot function in these circumstances, and didn’t try. The whole thing was dismal.
    I was worried when Janmaat peeled off his shirt after being sent off for a niggardly and cowardly foul last season. I think he’s an unhappy bunny, and had plenty of warning what would happen yesterday. Let’s appeal his red card on the basis of an Ayew foul and see where we get.
    I was expecting Sissoko to pull up. “If he’s taking his ball home, so am I” appeared to be the thought process.
    Finally, Colocinni. Two moments among many stood out. His challenge for the goal was a feeble attempt to atone for having got himself in no position to cover Ayew. Later, that small tricky winger Jonjo Shelvey was able to stumble and almost fall, but still skin our skipper, who had overshot the runway in his attempt to stand his man up.
    No-one…no-one at all, had a good game. There are excuses, but they will soon run pretty thin if a performance like this is repeated.
    I can understand those getting chippy with the Jeremiah’s predicting a relegation struggle. How very dare they?
    We got off to a poor start last season.
    I seem to recall the argument then went “No need to panic yet. It’s early days and things will soon come right. Have some perspective FFS.”
    Can’t recall how that turned out. I took the club’s advice to forget about it.
    I agree with jimmysmith about our unproven and fragile squad. There are no guarantees.

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  • beefman13

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #31

    Ed, i dont want to sound pedantic but i cannot pick out a decent performance from any of them. as usual the Toon away fans win.

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  • toon kk

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #32

    How can people vote for our best player, when we hadn’t one. Maybe a vote for who disappointed the most would be more appropriate.
    We were Poor, no pace, or quality, we couldn’t get the ball and when we did we gave them it back. Last season all over it.

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  • The overrated Frenchman

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #33

    How can you vote for a “best player” on that performance? If Ashley wants to own a club that’s in the EPL this time next year I reckon he’s going to have to spend twice as much again as what he’s spent so far this summer. Charnley, Carr and now (seemingly) the Wally are putting us at a huge disadvantage because they are clearly inferior in their performance to their counterparts at most other clubs. Poor management + poor squad as we have it = lots of money to be spent Mike if you want that TV money next season.

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  • Lost Plot

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #34

    Best Toon player yesterday was Adam Armstrong BUT he ain’t on the list for voting.

    We done it last with Haris Vuckic

    Long as we beat Man U

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  • Ron Knee

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #35

    overrated
    I imagine – or at least hope – that what McClaren says for public consumption is very different from what he says behind closed doors.

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  • Krul To Be Kind

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #36

    Nutmeg

    Collo started his career as a DM

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  • overtheline

    Aug 16, 2015 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #37

    Didn’t see the game due to work and couldn’t bear to watch MoTD.

    How well did Anita do in marking Montero ?
    Waas he any better than Janmatt ?

    For those criticising Macca – if he had pulled Janmatt after the first yellow, exactly who off the bench would have replaced him ?

    The longstanding problems have not been solved with 3 transfers. We need another 3 at minimum. One per week till the window ends. The wall is only half painted. Ideally we need the quality end of the spectrum and not just young with potential for a sell on. Van Dijk fits both categories, not sure if Dunk does. You couldn’t make it up. Is Penfold capable of acting with any urgency ?

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  • Jib

    Aug 16, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #38

    Soccer Sauce 11 Aug
    We have it on good authority that #NUFC officials are working hard to convince Shaqiri to sign,despite player completing Stoke medical #SCFC

    This was an SS gem last week
    NUFC subsequently denied ever having any interest in Shaquiri.
    Or Shakira as Psycho calls him

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  • Mister Tuff

    Aug 16, 2015 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #39

    It might be a blessing in disguise getting beat yesterday – as it AGAIN highlights our obvious problems, whch have continued from last season. Most folk can see what the problems are and I’m sure the coaching team can as well – regardless of what they are saying publicly. The club now has a fortnight to address these problems by buying in new talent. If they gamble not to they might not hear the end of it.
    I’m guessing we’ll be buying a couple more players but I do not think that Colos’ place will be under threat – for some strange reason – bad move by the club giving him an extension.
    Also coaching cannot make poor players good players -you might improve their tactical awareness but that’s about it – if players are not up to standard don’t expect them to turn into Messi or Ronaldo.
    So a fortnight to get the right “material” in -from then we can start to build meaningfully.

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  • toonbrother

    Aug 16, 2015 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #40

    We need to bring in Willems and Verstergaard/Kongolo/Abdennour

    Also I dont see the sense in letting Abeid go although i think that ship has sailed

    If Mclaren harbours any desire to partner Cisse with Mitrovic, he has to abandon playing 2 holdiing midfielders

    And since neither colback nor Anita have the tools to play as a lone DM that means we need to rehabilitate Tiote or replace him with a younger model. Chelsea’s Mikel comes to mind but I fear he’ll be too expensive

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