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Who Was Newcastle’s Best Player Yesterday?

9:57 am, Sunday, August 16th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 189 Comments

Let us know who you think Newcastle’s best player was yesterday in the 2-0 loss at Swansea, which gives us only one point from our first two games, but that’s  still one point more than Sunderland have managed.

We meet Manchester United at Old Trafford in the early game next Saturday – the game aren’t getting any easier.

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Steve McClaren on the touchline yesterday
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  • 1 Krul To Be Kind // Aug 16, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    Repost from 2 threads back as ed has evidently just had his coffee!

    As I said yesterday during the game I thought the ref was very harsh branding a second yellow to Janmatt without having the decency to pull him to one side and tell him he is on a final warningon a previous foul. Also the Mitro yellow card was a load of bull, yes he went in hard but he reacted to what the Swansea player said to him, he kept his hands down when he was being pushed, again another c**p decision by the ref.

    It’s not the end of the world but for me the sooner we upgrade Obertan and rid ourselves off Sissoko and his heartless displays the better.

    Why are we paying the guts of £15m for Thauvin when you could get Demerai Gray from Brum for a fraction of that and he is just as good, English, hungry and young.

    I like Macca and what he stands for and the very fact that he has footballing principles, a philosophy and very professional in what he does, starting with Cisse up top when we have spent £13m on Mitro to sit on the bench when you need a big lad up top to hold the ball up and relieve pressure against a team like Swansea, it was evident Swansea struggled to handle him during his cameo. I for one like the fight in this lad, we have lacked that for far 2 long but he needs to be handles with care, his desire will be infectious

  • 2 Rotonda heights // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:02 AM

    Ron Knee

    I would like to start mitrovic as potentially he offers a far more all round game to cisse but he seems so easy to wind up and teams will be looking to get under his skin all the time now.

    Krul to be kind

    Montero had janmatt on toast every time and he was very very lucky not to have received a second yellow when montero could have gone down in the box.

    Janmatt couldn’t get anywhere near him and a blind man could see what was coming and it was shockingly poor by SM not to realise that and get him off before the inevitable happened.

  • 3 hibbit // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:02 AM

    ron we have to start him its the only pressure we have otherwise were in for a pounding …..why do we look so lethargic 2 games into the season

  • 4 Jib // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Don’t forget Jones is the ref who disallowed Tiotes perfectly good goal against M City after being harangued by their players.

  • 5 Ron Knee // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    So we agree on starting Mitrovic.

    We might – I stress might – see a little less OTT aggression from him if he started rather than was subbed.

  • 6 Rotonda heights // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:06 AM


    but at least for me it’s a different obsession while you’re still stuck 8 years on.

  • 7 Krul To Be Kind // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:07 AM


    He is just poor, most times I’ve seen him he has been poor, not prem standard imo

  • 8 Marty-Toon // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Ok,hear me out before slating me.
    I believe although he’s been the defender beaten to the ball for two of this seasons goals let in that Collo is a decent defender.
    Remember he has had no pre season yet Mc Claren is choosing him.
    He had no chance against AYEW after 50 mins in the game,AYEW had the run and jump and you’ll get a lot higher with that naturally and he’s a top athlete.
    Collo IMO would be better used in DM as a lot of our problems are coming from there.
    Colback I see as a weak link in our team,although he got in a saving tackle last week to save a point.
    Yesterday again like last week,he let the opponent have too much room and time on the ball(while we were 10 men too)the ball is gone before he reacts.
    He was just walking and jogging around the pitch yesterday.
    He’s getting destroyed in there,maybe he needs a big man beside him to do the nitty gritty but I’ve seen nothing from him to merit and dancing in the streets,”he’s no Pirlo”

  • 9 Krul To Be Kind // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:08 AM


    I think the lad is chomping at the bit and that is why he appears a little reckless. He is just what the doctor ordered, we need fight in this team as we’ve lacked it for years and this lump of a lad has an abundance of it!

  • 10 Jib // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Fabianski : Krul,
    Naughton : Janmaat
    Fernandez : Mbemba,
    Williams : Coloccini
    Taylor : Haidara
    Cork : Anita
    Shelvey : Colback
    Ayew : Sissoko
    Sigurdsson : Wijnaldum,
    Montero : Obertan
    Gomis : Cisse

    Both managers played exactly the same formation and system
    Swansea played it like a second skin .
    Nufc played it like they’d learned it on Wednesday afternoon.
    When you see it laid out as above , some of the atch ups are frightening.

  • 11 Rotonda heights // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:11 AM


    I like SM and what he says he’s trying to do but at the end of the day his decision making as England boss etc has always been somewhat questionable. Great coach but possibly not a great manager at times when needing to be both pro and re-active.

    As I say early days so hopefully he will learn but he’s not a kid any more.

  • 12 Rotonda heights // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    just think we could have had gomis and ayew! oh well.

  • 13 Offkey // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    Marty- I am sure I remember pardew playing colo in midfield, from recollection I don’t think it worked well at all.

  • 14 Jib // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Their defence virtually had nowt to do all afternoon . Shelvey and Cork because of our only threat (!?) being up the wings could move from their DM role at will causing mayhem .
    We played with 9 men most of the afternoon because with Obertan in the side islike playing a man down to begin with.

  • 15 Ron Knee // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    I’d like to see Perez start with Mitrovic against Manure, but I fear it’s going to be damage-limitation mode once again.

    We shouldn’t be afraid of United. They’re not exactly brilliant, just lucky!

  • 16 Krul To Be Kind // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:15 AM


    I would go as far as to say McC was needing half time to make tactical changes but Janmatts frustration didn’t allow for it to get that far, he should know better but he walks straight back into r/b after the Man Utd game because he has no competition!

  • 17 Rotonda heights // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:17 AM


    agreed, i really don’t see what colback brings in terms of creativity to be worthy of starting. a good squad player to come on yes to shore up games, but he’s no game changer in any sense.

    someone made a good point about mitro. maybe he is over trying coming off the bench, trying to do too much in limited minutes.

  • 18 Krul To Be Kind // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:17 AM


    A 442 would give Man Utd something to think about and could be the way forward!

  • 19 Ron Knee // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    On McClaren’s decision-making: I’d like to think he planned to take Janmaat off at half-time!

    What a pity we don’t have a home fixture for the next match. Morale will be rock-bottom when we have to face the Ar*e.

  • 20 Ron Knee // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Yes, I’d like to see that, but I doubt it’ll happen.

    Charmless, do something before the window slams shut!

  • 21 Rotonda heights // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:22 AM


    That is really scary!!!!!

    Fabianski * maybe Krul
    Fernandez * maybe M’Bemba
    Taylor :
    Sigurdsson * maybe Wijnadum

  • 22 WWSBRD // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    Krul to be Kind
    Mitrovic tried to stamp on Taylor then fronted up for a fight with him after he complained and needed to be dragged away, not sure it’s harsh to see a card for that. Also is it really needed to warn a player to stop doing things outside of the rules? Janmaat was quite possibly in double figures for fouls yesterday it seems to me he was pretty lenient on Janmaat tbh

  • 23 terencelim // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    Ashley OUT

  • 24 Jib // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    It is defo time for big Stevie Black to start getting inside some players heids and get to work.

  • 25 firebug666 // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    If Newcastle deserved the yellow cards we picked up yesterday and Janmaat’s red for shirt pulling, then you would have to say Swansea got off light. I seen a lot worse tackle wise against Haidara going unpunished especially in the second half whenever we tried to bring the ball out of our own half.

    I think the referee was lenient, but more so for Swansea.

  • 26 geordielad880 // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Soccer Sauce ?@soccer_sauce 12 hrs12 hours ago

    Breaking news this evening: Newcastle open talks with PSV for full back Jetro Willems #NUFC

  • 27 nut meg // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    Playing Collo as a DM is a long shot. Just because he looks good bringing the ball out from the back with no opposing players behind him doesn’t mean he can play in the DM position. He would have opposing players swarming all over him in DM so I doubt very much that it would work.Not all players can play while facing their own goal a lot of the time Many years ago one of our best fullbacks Davd Craig was being talked about moving into the MF to allow the up & coming John Craggs get into the team at fullback. Craigs answer was that he can’t play unless he’s facing up field, he was also one of the best fullbacks in British football.

  • 28 firebug666 // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:46 AM


    I hope Soccer Sauce have this right mate, we need a decent LB asap.

  • 29 Ron Knee // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    You’re right about the ref. All our sins were punished; theirs weren’t.

  • 30 BandB // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    We sat far two deep from the outset. Swansea’s defenders were playing in the space our midfielders should have been in.
    Get used to the fact Obertan is going to play at least until Dummett is fit or another player is bought. He fits the old Gutierrez role the Pardew utilised, in what was a set-up frighteningly similar to a Pardew one. In many ways way can measure the progress of our squad by the fact Obertan is now a key player and no longer looks less effective than his team-mates.
    We did try to play it around for while, but soon resorted to trying to find Obertan and Sissoko with outlet balls. Sissoko cannot dribble. If he can’t barge his way through, he is beat. He and Obertan were guilty of being easily shrugged off the ball and jogging after the player who had dispossessed them.
    Central midfield was not at the races. Anita was neat in tidying up scraps, but little else. Colback again ran around like piggy in the middle, the ball always gone before he closed his player down.
    Cisse cannot function in these circumstances, and didn’t try. The whole thing was dismal.
    I was worried when Janmaat peeled off his shirt after being sent off for a niggardly and cowardly foul last season. I think he’s an unhappy bunny, and had plenty of warning what would happen yesterday. Let’s appeal his red card on the basis of an Ayew foul and see where we get.
    I was expecting Sissoko to pull up. “If he’s taking his ball home, so am I” appeared to be the thought process.
    Finally, Colocinni. Two moments among many stood out. His challenge for the goal was a feeble attempt to atone for having got himself in no position to cover Ayew. Later, that small tricky winger Jonjo Shelvey was able to stumble and almost fall, but still skin our skipper, who had overshot the runway in his attempt to stand his man up.
    No-one…no-one at all, had a good game. There are excuses, but they will soon run pretty thin if a performance like this is repeated.
    I can understand those getting chippy with the Jeremiah’s predicting a relegation struggle. How very dare they?
    We got off to a poor start last season.
    I seem to recall the argument then went “No need to panic yet. It’s early days and things will soon come right. Have some perspective FFS.”
    Can’t recall how that turned out. I took the club’s advice to forget about it.
    I agree with jimmysmith about our unproven and fragile squad. There are no guarantees.

  • 31 beefman13 // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    Ed, i dont want to sound pedantic but i cannot pick out a decent performance from any of them. as usual the Toon away fans win.

  • 32 toon kk // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:48 AM

    How can people vote for our best player, when we hadn’t one. Maybe a vote for who disappointed the most would be more appropriate.
    We were Poor, no pace, or quality, we couldn’t get the ball and when we did we gave them it back. Last season all over it.

  • 33 The overrated Frenchman // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    How can you vote for a “best player” on that performance? If Ashley wants to own a club that’s in the EPL this time next year I reckon he’s going to have to spend twice as much again as what he’s spent so far this summer. Charnley, Carr and now (seemingly) the Wally are putting us at a huge disadvantage because they are clearly inferior in their performance to their counterparts at most other clubs. Poor management + poor squad as we have it = lots of money to be spent Mike if you want that TV money next season.

  • 34 Lost Plot // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Best Toon player yesterday was Adam Armstrong BUT he ain’t on the list for voting.

    We done it last with Haris Vuckic

    Long as we beat Man U

  • 35 Ron Knee // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    I imagine – or at least hope – that what McClaren says for public consumption is very different from what he says behind closed doors.

  • 36 Krul To Be Kind // Aug 16, 2015 at 10:58 AM


    Collo started his career as a DM

  • 37 overtheline // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:00 AM

    Didn’t see the game due to work and couldn’t bear to watch MoTD.

    How well did Anita do in marking Montero ?
    Waas he any better than Janmatt ?

    For those criticising Macca – if he had pulled Janmatt after the first yellow, exactly who off the bench would have replaced him ?

    The longstanding problems have not been solved with 3 transfers. We need another 3 at minimum. One per week till the window ends. The wall is only half painted. Ideally we need the quality end of the spectrum and not just young with potential for a sell on. Van Dijk fits both categories, not sure if Dunk does. You couldn’t make it up. Is Penfold capable of acting with any urgency ?

  • 38 Jib // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    Soccer Sauce 11 Aug
    We have it on good authority that #NUFC officials are working hard to convince Shaqiri to sign,despite player completing Stoke medical #SCFC

    This was an SS gem last week
    NUFC subsequently denied ever having any interest in Shaquiri.
    Or Shakira as Psycho calls him

  • 39 Mister Tuff // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:06 AM

    It might be a blessing in disguise getting beat yesterday – as it AGAIN highlights our obvious problems, whch have continued from last season. Most folk can see what the problems are and I’m sure the coaching team can as well – regardless of what they are saying publicly. The club now has a fortnight to address these problems by buying in new talent. If they gamble not to they might not hear the end of it.
    I’m guessing we’ll be buying a couple more players but I do not think that Colos’ place will be under threat – for some strange reason – bad move by the club giving him an extension.
    Also coaching cannot make poor players good players -you might improve their tactical awareness but that’s about it – if players are not up to standard don’t expect them to turn into Messi or Ronaldo.
    So a fortnight to get the right “material” in -from then we can start to build meaningfully.

  • 40 toonbrother // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:06 AM

    We need to bring in Willems and Verstergaard/Kongolo/Abdennour

    Also I dont see the sense in letting Abeid go although i think that ship has sailed

    If Mclaren harbours any desire to partner Cisse with Mitrovic, he has to abandon playing 2 holdiing midfielders

    And since neither colback nor Anita have the tools to play as a lone DM that means we need to rehabilitate Tiote or replace him with a younger model. Chelsea’s Mikel comes to mind but I fear he’ll be too expensive

  • 41 NUFC FOR SALE // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:09 AM

    Team for my

    Mbemba Taylor Collo Haidara
    Sissoko Windi Colback

  • 42 toonbrother // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:13 AM

    For the next match i would go tith the following
    Sissoko,,. Cisse…..Arrons..

  • 43 Jib // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:15 AM

    Your points contrast sharply with BandB’s insightful remarks.
    Your first 2 points run into each other
    If we had pulled Janmaat we would have done what we did when he was sent off ,brought on Taylor and move Mbemba out – Anita was never in the equation !!!!
    Banging on about CB requirements is to miss the fundamental problems with yesterdays team by miles.
    We needed warriors yesterday and were found wanting , they are in the club , but Supermac seems afraid to use them.

  • 44 Sir Braveheart // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:16 AM

    Best Newcastle player yesterday?


  • 45 nut meg // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:17 AM

    Krul to be kind
    It must be a good few years since he was a DM,any idea when he moved to CB. Only curious that’s all, but the PL is far too fast & furious to play him in that role imo.

  • 46 Mister Tuff // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:19 AM

    Warriors are needed yes I agree with that -they need to be bwave soldiers as well they will fight the good fight in Macca’s Bwave New World.

  • 47 JamesToon // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 AM

    We need:

    1 x RB: Byram or bring through Sterry
    1 x CB: Van Dijk
    1 x LB: Willems or Guerreiro
    1 x winger: Thauvin or Townsend

    Have to remember about the game against Swansea, Monk finally has his own inherited team and has been coaching them for all most 2 years, whereas McClaren has had our players for about 6 weeks.

    On the transfer front, we need to buy players that fit the playing philosophy, not for the sell on value, this is what Swansea/saints have been doing for years and it WORKS

  • 48 welshgeordie9 // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:22 AM


    Are you feeling alright, you have got Colo in your starting lineup.

  • 49 The overrated Frenchman // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:22 AM

    Ron Knee – I can tell you that McClaren did himself no favours with that stupid line about “we only learned one thing from this game” Really, Steve? Hundreds of thousands of supporters around the world who watched the game might beg to differ. That was a Carver-esque piece of nonsense which will have marked his card in many people’s minds. It sounded every inch the sort of thing a failed Championship manager might say….funny about that…

  • 50 Ron Knee // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:22 AM

    True Geordie sums it up:

  • 51 Sir Braveheart // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:22 AM

    Performance and results wise yesterday thats about what I expected and honestly, its about where we are.

    Swansea willbe challenging for fifth this year I think. We’re looking at 10th realistically. We hada player sent off in the first half. 2-0 was quite lenient.

    We had a good performance against Saints, a bad one here. Thats about where we are. I honestly think qe can write off the first four games of this season, our preseason has screwed us over terribly. After that we’ll see the expected steady results that will get us 10th.

    And remember, you could always be a Sunderland fan. They’re in for a season of hell.

  • 52 JamesToon // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:23 AM

    Why we didn’t go for players like Cork or Shelvey I don’t know, two of the most underrated players imo

  • 53 Offkey // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:23 AM

    Krul – Taylor started as a striker…..means little this far on, but as I say, I am sure he played there under pardew and was annihilated……may be wrong though

  • 54 Krul To Be Kind // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:24 AM


    When was being loaned out by AC he was a holding DM, I believe when his move was made per meant at Deportivo that he made the transition to full time CB, ironically because of his reading of the game

  • 55 welshgeordie9 // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:24 AM

    Shelvey must love playing Newcastle, i can’t think of another swans player, pity about the sending off, the match might of been different.

  • 56 John Tudor // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:26 AM

    are you to be taken in by tosh

  • 57 Krul To Be Kind // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:27 AM


    Taylor started as a striker in his youth was it not? Collo played champs league games as a DM

  • 58 welshgeordie9 // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    The true Geordie, I’ve missed him over the summer, such a funny guy always crack me up, what a legend.

  • 59 JamesToon // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    I remember saying on here 2 years ago before montero was even linked with Swansea that we should go for him, he had a £1.3m release clause Ffs and now this season he will prove what a good player he is

  • 60 Jib // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:28 AM

    If one Googles “Cork Swansea” you get a freakin ferry company
    Ha Ha ha ha haha

  • 61 welshgeordie9 // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:29 AM

    John Tudor

    I would if he became our new manager, very good years ago for Liverpool with Keegan.

  • 62 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:29 AM

    Having slept on it and reflected, in the aim of hoping to convince myself it was just a bad day, I have failed to.

    This was a last season performance and showed that nothing has been learned at all by the new management. It also scarily showed just how naive McLaren can be tactically.

    I agree with many others saying Colocinni is a huge mistake. He is no leader, no captain and not a good enough player anymore. Mbrmba is the future and he needs a rock alongside him. Playing them both together against Gomis was just childish. How could they not see that? Especially after last week when they were both destroyed by balls coming into the box.

    I’m extremely worried that Obertan has been given yet another chance. He’s just useless apart from the odd flash.

    Also I think many are overlooking the fact that we need a top class CM. Anita and Colback are in the same mould and are totally outclassed by good CM opposition. Shelvey was a class apart and make them look like championship players.

    Without someone like that we simply won’t create anything that isn’t a long ball or cross. We go back to that huge void of creativity and we’ve done sod all to recitify it.

    Personally I’m sick of the nonchalant attitude of the club board. Every other club with possibly the exception of West Brom and Sunderland are improving radically and more importantly are up for it. Despite new management and supposed ideas, we look stale as we did last year and the core issues of motivation, preperation, organisation and commitment have not been addressed even slightly.

    Many said anythjng less than 5 top class players would be a failure, and now it shows it certainly will be, we may even need more. With 2 weeks to go I am not optimistic.

    Welcome to Newcastle United. The club that continues to prove beyond doubt, it has no idea what it’s doing.

  • 63 Offkey // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:29 AM

    Krul – give you that mate, but surely someone else must remember him playing dm for us, it was short lived because he was soon clumsy

  • 64 welshgeordie9 // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:30 AM


    Ha ha ha

    Very good

  • 65 Offkey // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:31 AM

    Maybe it was just part of a game where we had no dm’s left

  • 66 hibbit // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:31 AM

    james toon sterry should be out on loan byram / van dijk / willems yes please jury out on the 2 wingers you name but we do need a winger we also need a midfield general to make us tick not much to ask is it

  • 67 OneAlanShearer // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:31 AM

    The issue is we have been left with the players from previous hideous seasons that don’t all fit one system. Pardew alluded to it in having to fit players in he wouldn’t have signed.

    Yes it needs revolution now not in 3 windows. No it’s not an over reaction. The side is totally unbalanced. We do not have the players to suit one style and other clubs have improved passed us since last season. If the alarm bells aren’t ringing they should be. Someone showed well that our first xi would hardly get into any other sides apart from the mackems.

    We need better competition for Krul.
    A new centre back with pace and height and a defensive left back
    Cover at right back with pace.
    A deep sitting playmaker
    A right winger/A striker.

  • 68 Krul To Be Kind // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:34 AM


    I can’t recall him playing DM for us but I can recall many a fan on here wishing it. I don’t know if it is a good call to push someone further up in the twilight of their careers, I don’t think he would have the legs as they say, anyhow, he is the best of a bad lot in the centre of defence options imo

  • 69 Krul To Be Kind // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:36 AM

    I really don’t think wingers are a priority at the moment but we do need ‘competent’ bodies for the back line and height is a must for at least one of them

  • 70 lochinvar // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:46 AM

    Sky Box Office have good deal on their boxing Channel for Rooney v Mitrovic and you can watch the game as well !

  • 71 Ron Knee // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    Not many were thrilled at the appointment of McClaren, but given what we’d endured under P45/Carver he seemed an improvement.

    Then we saw a clear-out of the coaching staff, followed incredibly by three potentially good signings.

    Faint stirrings of hope only to be dashed by Colocccini’s new contract and McClaren’s apparent faith in Sissoko and Obertan.

    Once more, we’re in for a long, hard season with every prospect of relegation once again unless at least three good signings are made.

  • 72 Our Toon // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:48 AM

    Reading through some of the comments made earlier today, it’s laughable to say Janmaat got a harsh 2nd booking. Pulling someone back has been an automatic yellow for donkeys years. Janmaat kicked through Montero 4 times, bringing hin down 3 times and then pulled him back. That’s 5 fouls in 40 odd minutes.

    I hate to say it but Janmaat knows pulling someone back is an automatic yellow, he bottled it, got himself sent off!!

  • 73 Offkey // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:48 AM

    Krul-google is not helping me, I could have just imagined it all 🙂

  • 74 Jib // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:53 AM

    It’s down to managerial timidity v bravery again.
    If Supermac had had the cajones to bring off Janmaat Obertan and Cisse in one fell swoop after Daryl’s yellow and going behind
    and brought on Taylor Aarons and Mitrovic (which happened anyway ) we would have been no worse off (zero points) but may have gotten something from the game and at least have Janmaat to face his Dutch mucker Memphis Depay.

  • 75 Offkey // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:53 AM

    I think what made it worse for janmaat is the ball was taken off him so easily and that was his response…….wasn’t the first time e either

  • 76 OneAlanShearer // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:55 AM

    Our issues put simply.
    Height and pace at centre back as Colo not the answer.
    We never replaced cabaye with a deep lying playmaker.
    Lack of supply to the strikers so yes we need a winger who can cross AND take a free kick.
    Cisse can’t hold the ball up and has a poor first touch.
    Mitrovic will be good if he cuts out the crazy stuff.

    Deep flaws in our first eleven without even looking at the squad needs. That’s why we need 3 or 4 players now not in the next few windows as teams will carve through us.

  • 77 Our Toon // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:57 AM

    We cannot play Anita and Colback as a pair, they both nullify each other as they want to play the same role. Get Tiote a behind closed doors friendly get him fit and bring him in for one of these 2. Drop Wijinaldum back as a box to box midfielder and have someone else playing in the hole behind the striker.

    Anita and Colback let Shelvey ducats the game yesterday. Utter shite the pair of them

  • 78 toon kk // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:57 AM

    Our toon
    your probably right there about Janmaat, he just give up. So did the whole of our team.
    I can handle us loosing if we’ve actually given 100% but no one did.
    Also I’m not sure what to make of Mitrovic yet, he’s got suspensions written all over him.
    he’ll be wasted at Newcastle there’s not enough service in our play.

  • 79 Krul To Be Kind // Aug 16, 2015 at 11:59 AM

    Our toon

    I stated it was harsh because the ref didn’t pull him to the side to wag the finger at him, yes the pull was petulant and he shouldn’t have taken the pull but the ref is there to keep a game flowing as much he is there to mediate, to the letter of the law it was a yellow but the ref should have had a word, another ref may not have sent him off, you see it every week, the ref pulls a player to the side and tells him to reign it in or he’s walking. I have no complaints about him walking but I do think the ref could have managed it better with a warning on one of the fouls prior to the first yellow.

  • 80 Moonraker15 // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:00 PM

    Ed, best player yesterday? Who cares they were all crap!

  • 81 Krul To Be Kind // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:00 PM

    *after not prior doh

  • 82 Offkey // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:02 PM

    Toon kk – on mitrovic, I think he will create a lot of space for others, something cisse does not do. We might start seeing more goals from midfeild etc.

  • 83 TorqToon // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:03 PM

    Afternoon gents. The less said about yesterday’s debacle the better I’d say. Mbemba was probably our best player, however fair to say nobody was stand out. Let’s just hope we have lined up signings to prevent this becoming a regular occurrence.

  • 84 nut meg // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:07 PM

    heard out?

  • 85 Moonraker15 // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:07 PM

    I’ll tell you the worst player yesterday! Coloccini, he’s too old to jump.

    It’s gonna take Shteeve 10 games to find that out, and that Obertan is useless and that Colback and Anita are not strong enough for DM role. By that time we could be in a relegation battle!

    Sorry, I’m an optimist but it’s so obvious to us and surely they should have sussed it by now!

  • 86 Noel Worst // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:07 PM

    Watching Wolves vs Hull.

    Still think Hull have a few players worth looking at, namely Dawson, Robertson and Elmohamady.

  • 87 Ron Knee // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:09 PM

    I think we’re already in a relegation battle!

  • 88 Krul To Be Kind // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:10 PM

    In 2 cameos from Mitro he reminds me so much of shearer, the midfield need to get closer to him though and he only had 10/15 min yesterday to showcase what he is about, although he seems a bit feisty I think the side need that at the moment, this boy has me excited and he could be the type of player we need from the start to allow for Macca’s philosophy to bear fruit

  • 89 Moonraker15 // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:10 PM

    And while I’m on the subject why is Cisse on in preference to Mitro? Ffs it took months to get him and now we don’t play him; no wonder he’s like a bear with a sore head when he comes on!

  • 90 JamesToon // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:12 PM

    Hibbit I agree.

    Hopefully we are done with the old transfer policy and that we are now going to buy players that as I said fit into the system not just bought for sell on value.

    IMO this is where we are at in terms of the strength and quality of our first 11:

    v Swansea: 3-8

    v Saints: 3-8

    v Stoke: 5-6
    Adam/van ginkel-Wijnaldum
    Shaqiri-De Jong-Arnautovic

    v Everton: 2-9

    v West Ham: 5-6
    Sissoko-De Jong-Payet

    v Crystal Palace: 7-4
    Bolasie-De Jong-Zaha

    v Aston Villa: 8-3
    Sissoko-De Jong-Ayew

  • 91 Sliema // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:12 PM

    Cisse gets goals. But to the detriment of the overall team performance. If we had a striker with a first touch and an ounce of intelligence then the plethora of attacking midfielders we have would actually be able to link up and get more goals.

    I hope Mitrovic is given a run in the team asap. No point having Cisse get a handful like he always does if we can’t win those games.

  • 92 Novocastrian66 // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:13 PM

    Frenchman; I think McClaren didn’t learn anything he already knew.

  • 93 Krul To Be Kind // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:13 PM


    Robertson would be great shout, I think haidara is very similar to elmohamady though and Dawson is past it for the PL

  • 94 JamesToon // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:13 PM


    I agree mitro needs to start against man united he brings so much more to the table. He’s powerful, can hold the ball up and is actually able to defend from the front. I actually think he could be our sort of “Graziano Pelle” kind of player, a complete all round striker who’s able to pressure the defence

  • 95 Moonraker15 // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:13 PM

    You could be right but unlike other teams in it (Mackems etc) we could easily get out of it !

  • 96 Our Toon // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:14 PM


    Before the season starts refs go to teams and tell them what is an automatic card etc. Janmaat was well aware of this, if he had slid into Montero he probably wouldn’t have got a 2nd yellow but a talking to, but pulling someone back like that is a blatant yellow card because it’s a deliberate act.

    Janmaat took the cowards option and didn’t want to be on the pitch, Janmaat knew he was off and not 1 compliant from our lads or our bench. Last week Soares got booked for pulling back obertan, Koeman (erwin or ron) took him off at half time.

  • 97 JamesToon // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:16 PM

    With my post about the quality of our XI compared to others, if no more signings are made, then 12th is where we should finish, as there are AT LEAST 11 clubs with better first team XI’s

  • 98 Slank // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:16 PM

    On the assumption that Sissoko is still crocked my team against ManU is:

    Mbemba – Saylor – Colo – Haidara
    Anita – Colback
    Perez – Gini – Aarons

    Mbemba: There’s no alterntive.
    Saylor: The alternative is Williamson
    Perez: Inventive and tricky. Has goals in him.
    Aarons: Quick and tricky. If Montaro can do so can we.
    Mitrovic: Will bully their centre backs, will hold up play and will thrive on crosses from the wings.

  • 99 Our Toon // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:17 PM

    Lads we create nothing, we could have Costa amd Aguero upfront and still lose because the midfield don’t create any chances. Mitrovic will get a red because he’ll realise he’s playing with utter shite that don’t provide anything

  • 100 Noel Worst // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:18 PM

    Krul to be Kind

    You kidding? Haidara doesn’t have the engine nor leap of Elmohamady and their crossing ability are opposite ends of the scale. We need a challenger for Janmaat.

    I’d rather Dawson than Colo, Saylor or Williamson.

  • 101 jazzyp // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:18 PM

    No Willems for Psv and apparently not injured….. Mmmm interesting

  • 102 JamesToon // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:19 PM

    Im sure most of you already know this, but Swansea is the club who’s blueprint is what we should follow. EVERYTHING at their club fits their philosophy of passing football, from the managers, coaches, players to the academy and transfer policy

  • 103 Noel Worst // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:19 PM

    Huddlestone having a nightmare. Properly shite.

  • 104 Ron Knee // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:20 PM

    The problem as usual at Newcastle is: Do the Bare Minimum. We need more signings now. By Christmas it’ll be too late.

  • 105 JamesToon // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:20 PM


    Where did you hear that Willems isn’t injured? Everyone else was saying that he was injured?

    Mind you soccer sauce said we’ve opened talks for him but really can’t see it being true

  • 106 Our Toon // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:21 PM

    Leicester lad last season named Mahrez who couldn’t get a regular game under Pearson because he’s classed as a luxury player. Ranieri comes in and he’s arguably the 1st name on the team sheet. Mahrez is skillful, greedy and always wants to score or take his man on. Reminds me of Greggs loving Arfa who looks trim at Nice and scored yesterday from the spot.

    He got subbed when his team was winning 3-1, opposition down to 10 men 20 mins left in the game and it ends 3-3.

  • 107 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:21 PM

    I’ve been an optimist all week and I will remain one but yesterday’s performance was as bad as anything last season.

    We look frightened and Shelvey was a beast.

    I’ve always rated the young lad and he’d be perfect for hodgsons diamond system. Said when Swansea signed him they been shrewed.

    That Swansea squad is nothing overly special in terms of individuals but they are showing what a good club philosophy and coaching set up can do.

    Huw Jenkins has done a great job in keepin stability and continuing progress despite managerial changes since Martinez.

    I hope in time we can do that.

  • 108 Krul To Be Kind // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:22 PM

    Cisse has to do the stuff he is poor at, such as chasing balls down and bringing the ball in from wide. He isn’t a channel chaser and has no other tools in the box other than scoring poachers goals or the odd worldy when the is no option on. He is better suited to a 2 up top he is too slight to be a lone forward, in Mitrovic, the boy has the lot and will improve if nurtured correctly

  • 109 Moonraker15 // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:22 PM

    James Toon
    Mitro should have been on earlier against Southampton; he was frustrated when he came on no excuse but that’s why he got booked. Then he should have started against Swansea and could have come off after 75 mins.
    I think if we’d had his threat it would have changed the whole game; baffling the lad is now gonna be trying too hard to impress when coming on!

  • 110 JamesToon // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:24 PM


    spot on mate

  • 111 Krul To Be Kind // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:26 PM


    Haidara has about 6 years on Elmohamady, both bomb forward and crossing ability will come with the right coaching, I still have very high hopes for Haidara with the right coaching and staying clear of injuries, he has pace which is the big thing for my money in a fullback

  • 112 Moonraker15 // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:26 PM

    Shelvey’s a good player but we made him look great which he isn’t !

  • 113 BandB // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:26 PM

    One positive to emerge from yesterday is that Stephen Taylor may now start against Man Utd, with Mbemba pushed to right back.
    Thick as mince Taylor might be, but he can be rather effective in backs against the wall situations and threw himself in the path of a couple of shots yesterday. He is also comparatively good in the air, though his distribution is hit and miss.
    At least he wants to play.
    Colo is going to play no matter what. I wonder if that is even in McClaren’s hands. I was less than convinced by McClaren’s body language when announcing his contract extension.
    Colo played a key role after the Battle of the Bonuses back in 2009, and Mike always rewards a loyalist.

  • 114 Offkey // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:26 PM

    I also think a mitrovic and cisse partnership has potential. Cisse looks best hitting balls that are bouncing around the box, mitrovic can make that happen with space created I think……..but who knows until we see it……stevie has seen it in training and hasn’t done it yet……

  • 115 BandB // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:27 PM


  • 116 Our Toon // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:27 PM


    Tom Cleverly would look world class like Shelvey was against us if given the freedom of the midfield like yesterday!! No pressure at all, all the time to pick passes.

    Gomis and Ayew scored both players who were out of our financial reach even though they were on a free

  • 117 Our Toon // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:29 PM


    You can’t teach crossing ability like Elmo’s, Haidara will never be an accomplished crosser of the ball, he still hasn’t mastered how to control the ball never mind about crossing it

  • 118 Ian Toon // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:29 PM

    Blackley- Yours much earlier. Thank you for your suggested reason to be happy- the fact that we have an unbeaten home record.
    Altogether now- 1-2-3.
    Always look on the bright side of life!

    toonbrother- Football is not a science. There are a lot of variants between success and failure. Whilst I don’t share totally your fixation over Colo, you do offer some progressive alternatives by way of utilising the squad as it is now – rather than how we would like it to be. It’s the art of the possible.
    David Moyes was recently quoted as saying the major difference between English and Spanish fans and journalists was that the latter are far more interested in football tactics.
    Macca I suspect is looking too a time when he’s got a few more players fully fit and the only way to achieve that is to give them match time. Colo would have been skinned a few times by Montero and co whether fit or not- his attributes are not pace related but Macca I suspect sees him as someone to organise a back four in the manner of
    JT at Chelsea.
    I won’t cover yet again defensive reinforcements through the window.
    Utilising the squad at present I mentioned last night a 3-5-2. Line up at ManU. But not in a defensive way because it’ll be lambs to the slaughter. Full backs ( certainly Haidara) is far better in an attacking mode so why not re- designate them as midfielders and play them higher up the pitch? Anita is lacking defensively so look to get the best rout of him.

  • 119 Ian Toon // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:31 PM

    Tiote hasn’t played since January so talk of a behind close doors friendly and away he goes is plain daft.

  • 120 Our Toon // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:35 PM


    So how does he get fit then if that’s daft? Playing him in competitive games!! I’d rather have him getting upto match speed playing behind closed doors rather than on the pitch. Last week showed just how far back he is in terms of fitness. So what is your suggestion then?

  • 121 geordie157 // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:35 PM

    Obertan was decent again going forward but he. didn’t track back at all and help Anita and mbemba.

    Montero for me sums up what we need, although in Aaron’s we could already have that type of winger.

    Centre back has to be priority, would like Byram in to provide rb/ rw competition

  • 122 Mister Tuff // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:36 PM

    Anita and Colback are not creative players and never will be. They are both very decent footballers and rarely make gaffes -however they are not creative.
    To be creative does not mean you are, if you produce a killer pass every few weeks -it should occur several times per game.

    Yesterday – Shelvey had the pitch to himself – nobody was harrassing him at all.
    As for Gomis whilst he’s netted a few he’ll miss a load more. He is strong and not bad in the air – but on the deck, he’s very clumsy. I personally am glad we did not sign him.

    Mr Tubbs……………………………….OOT
    Bwave warriors and soldiers………..IN

  • 123 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:36 PM

    We nearly went down last season and might well have done but for an outstanding performance by a player who we’ve now binned. So, what other differences this season? We have a guy called Mbemba to replace a guy called Mbiwa. We have a new overweight striker who can’t make the starting 11. And a Dutch midfielder who gained us a point last week but who was anonymous on his first trip away. Nothing else has changed. A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse. Where’s the f******** horse?

  • 124 Ian Toon // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:37 PM

    Shelvey: Anita. Was a no contest. It strikes me Macca is still working out how best to utilise the squad he has.

  • 125 BandB // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:38 PM

    Is it time for the Flappy Birds yet Blackley?
    You sure sound like it.

  • 126 John Tudor // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:39 PM

    taken in by open ended promises of what
    not me
    not even half funny yer nobba

  • 127 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:39 PM

    No horse. Same old carr.

  • 128 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:39 PM

    We really shouldn’t be thrusting promising new players like Mbemba into the square peg round hole siuation.

    That’s a big factor as to why we’ve been so awful for so long. McLaren has to stop acting oblivious to Colocinni’s inadequacies and get a proper CB in his place asap. If we go through the season with him starting we will get destroyed in many games.

    He can play alongside a new CB but I’d much rather see Mbemba do it as he’s a better player already.

  • 129 geordie157 // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:42 PM

    Our decision not to sign ayew is so far looking to be a poor one.

  • 130 Mister Tuff // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:42 PM

    BandB – that thought about Colos’ future not being entirely within Wallys’ remit did also occur to me. Not outside the realms of possibility that it was a Tubbs order.

  • 131 BandB // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:43 PM

    I’d much rather Taylor played alongside Mbemba in the circumstances.
    One has to wonder why that isn’t, and never will be, an option while Colocinni is even half fit.

  • 132 Ron Knee // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:44 PM

    You make a good point about Gomis. When he first came to the PL he looked worse than Rivière (slight exaggeration).

    Let’s hope that Cabella will eventually come good. I’m not impressed with Thauvin – even in an inferior Ligue 1.

  • 133 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:44 PM

    You won’t see Old Blackley flapping. He’s seen it for decades.

    I was saying the same before the season k.o. while so many others were riding a high and delighting in swapping their fantasy team selections and formations.

  • 134 BandB // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:45 PM


    The idea the McClaren is calling the shots has taken hold with very little evidence to support it.
    He clearly wants more players, but at the same time is willing to suggest he is happy with his squad.
    Plus ca change.

  • 135 Ian Toon // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:46 PM

    Our Toon – he’s not remotely fit. You saw the frustration that was built up by the constant pace, movement and passing around yesterday of players who still aren’t match fit. Well Tiote is light years behind them.
    I know we played like a Sunday morning pub team – he has not had a competitive game since January – he’s a month away, given full time training and an occasional appearance. He’s only a week on from his
    Cameo performance against the Saints- that went well. I suspect that was Macca’s way of telling Tiote he had to work on his fitness.

  • 136 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:46 PM

    Still say it is now utterly essential that we have a big comanding CB in for next week.


    I dont think either colback or anita are accomplished enough to cover the back four v Man u, and i think colo in there instead with 2 cbs behind him as insurance would work.

    A simple, almost late 1960’s/early 1970’s 5-5 formation.

  • 137 Jib // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:47 PM

    One really glaring and worrying aspect of McClarens perception of our players was the selection of Wijnaldum in the Sigurdsson role for us yesterday.
    De Jong defo , Perez possibly at a push , but Wijnaldum playing as a pass sprayer is using 30% of his potential and he’s not used to it anyway.

    geordie 157
    Watched Byram closely in the Yorks derby last week , he is way off PL standard.

    By the way our last 2 games we have started with just one Englishman in the side (Ginger Jack) this may have to be looked at when thinking of signings

  • 138 Ron Knee // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:47 PM

    Coloccini got a new contract without McClaren having seen him play.

  • 139 Our Toon // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:50 PM


    Did I say bring Tiote in immediately?

  • 140 Ron Knee // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:52 PM

    Can you rely on SDJ being fit?

  • 141 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:53 PM

    Surely Colocinni hasn’t got a clause dictating his selection when not injured?

    Surely McLaren has more backbone than to allow that when it’s clearly going to undermine him.

  • 142 Novocastrian66 // Aug 16, 2015 at 12:56 PM

    WWSBRD; According to the Sky sports web site we committed 8 fouls in the whole game. The BBC match stats also say 8. You say Janmatt hit double figures in 40 mins, not sure about that. I also think his first booking was harsh. Ayew’s tackle just before half time was the worst challenge in the first half but he wasn’t booked. The ref wasn’t consistent in his management of the game. There will not be many players sent off for committing two challenges like that in one game, this season.

  • 143 BandB // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:00 PM

    I didn’t say anything about a clause Geremi, but there may be an understanding.
    Players left without McClaren seeing them play, and another got an extension without McClaren having any opportunity to give him a slate, clean or otherwise.
    Colo has always seemed to be a special case. Seems to play when he wants and not to play when he doesn’t. Hardly speaks on the pitch, and occasionally signs off on something that’s been written for him off it.
    A very peculiar captain.

  • 144 Jib // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:01 PM

    God forgive me for saying this
    I really hope Crystal Palace put Arsenal to the sword

  • 145 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM


    But why would McLaren agree to that? How does it possibly benefit him? Certainly not on the pitch. He’s becoming detrimental.

    McLaren showed at Forest he wouldn’t be taken for a mug. I know since then his stock hasn’t improved but surely he’s not desperate enough to be agreeing to those sort of ridiculous demands? Or is a well paid management job within healthy commuting distance where failure will be tolerated too comfy to stand up against for a man who has his best years behind him and failed to scale the heights many predicted he would 15 years ago?

  • 146 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:14 PM

    Robertson is a good full back but too attacking for our current needs.

    If we had more defensively sounds full backs our wingers wouldn’t have to baby sit.

    It frighteningly obvious (and I know this is a repeating point daily) that it’s not a case of our cbs being terrible it’s that they don’t compliment each other. Lascelles and willo are the only 2 that offer height. We need a big lad in there that isn’t willo or an unproven Lascelles to compliment colo or mbemba. Never the two together.

    We need to loan Lascelles, sell willo to make room for. Big lad.

  • 147 Noel Worst // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:16 PM

    Hahaha to think some on here were advocating us buying McGregor a few months ago. One of the worst ‘keepers I’ve seen, cost Hull bags of points last season, a main reason for them being relegated and has just done another howler.

  • 148 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:17 PM

    One of the things that worried me the most was how Swansea outworked and battled us more they were first to everything Sissoko and Obertan are physically built compared to Montero but they never bullied the Swansea full backs at all

    Watching our games it looks like midfield is our worst area Anita , Colback and Tiote are decent players but thats all they are we need to be upgrading everyone of them

    We should be looking to get Lucas or Mikel on loan for our defensive mid position both are solid , physical and can pass the ball which would give better protection

    I also dont see a chance creator from centre midfield Gini and De Jong are more the type of players to get on the end of crosses or passes from other players so we need a play maker

  • 149 BandB // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:18 PM


    The fact he’s been reconfirmed as captain suggests he is going to play when fit (if he wants to).
    Does McClaren pick the captain is the question. We’ll probably never know.

  • 150 Noel Worst // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:19 PM

    Dawson would be great for us. Positionally exceptional, aerially dominant, experienced in the tricks of the trade, combative and a defender that prides himself on defending and has a never say die attitude. Comfortable on the ball, too.

    Basically everything Saylor wishes he could be.

  • 151 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:22 PM


    SDJ can always be replaced when he tires. Colback or anita can play in there without having to worry about their lack of defensive bite since gini and colo are there.

  • 152 GEORDIE69 // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:25 PM


    Forget this silly 4-2-3-1 formation and play a 4-4-2 Diamond. Buy Willems from PSV and Abdennour from Monaco!

    Then go with:
    GK Krul
    RB Janmatt
    LB Willems
    CD Abdennour
    CD MBemba
    DM Tiote
    CM Sissoko
    CM Wijnaldum
    AM Perez
    CF Mitrovic
    CF Cisse


    If only football was so simple!

  • 153 Ian Toon // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:28 PM

    Our Toon- then we agree.

  • 154 Graeme // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:29 PM

    BandB – You can be certain that Schteve will confirm that Colo was his choice – whatever the reality of the situation.

    Was interesting to hear Carver this morning confirm that at no time did Ashley or Penfold interfere with team selection, or try to interfere!!

  • 155 Take a Chancel on me // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:31 PM

    Aresnal have the patchwork away kit same as us but in goldy colour

  • 156 hibbit // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:32 PM

    what a lot on here seem to miss is there is a big difference between fit and match fit most clubs seem to be somewhere between the 2 points we don’t seem to be on the chart yet to many players way off the pace

  • 157 toonbrother // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:34 PM

    @48 welshgeordie9

    I hate Colocinni as a Central Defender
    I dont hate Colocinni
    Why would i
    He is just a man trying to feed his family
    I dont blame him for seeking a 2 year extension despite knowing full well he is past his best
    The blame lies with Mclaren for being so gullible as to believe that tripe about 3 clubs being after him

    I think he could work well as a sweeper or defensive midfielder
    As a defender he has no business being in our or any starting line up

  • 158 Mister Tuff // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:40 PM

    Hope Arsenal give King Percys’ outfit a walloping.

  • 159 Rotonda heights // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:43 PM


    point missed competely. I may be wrong but i usually find it’s better to have 11 on the pitch instead of 10.

    anyone of anita, saylor, mbemba could play rb temporarily. They couldn’t have done worse than our specialist RB!!

  • 160 Rotonda heights // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:45 PM


    we can only pray.

    in other news if we are gong for willems why not go for veltman / van dijk too

  • 161 Take a Chancel on me // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:46 PM

    What a goal from Giroud

  • 162 Jib // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:46 PM

    toonbrother // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:34 PM
    I dont hate Colocinni
    He is just a man trying to feed his family
    several families
    one in Jesmond and a couple in Cramlington


  • 163 Rotonda heights // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:49 PM


    why i may not be so damning and vehement in my criticism of the curly haired one as you, it is clear that he really should not be ur captain / number 1 CB. What sm is thinking is anyone’s guess.

  • 164 Noel Worst // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:50 PM

    On that evidence, if Hull replace their alchy clown of a GK they’ll come straight back up.

  • 165 Rotonda heights // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:51 PM


    sadly it is simple, just the guys that count don’t see it

  • 166 Noel Worst // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:56 PM

    I think our management are somehow under the illusion the supporters still rate Colo and that he’s a favourite. Disconnect between reality.

    For the life of me I don’t understand his continuance as captain, there is no rationale behind that decision.

  • 167 Nufc-83 // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:57 PM

    Offkey I remember cool playing dm for us for a few games and he was utterly terrible and got moved back to cb sharpish.

  • 168 Nufc-83 // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:57 PM


  • 169 Ron Knee // Aug 16, 2015 at 1:57 PM

    Game on!

  • 170 welshgeordie9 // Aug 16, 2015 at 2:01 PM

    Palace fans are awesome especially after they score a goal, atmosphere there must be electric.

  • 171 check the toastie // Aug 16, 2015 at 2:03 PM

    Last week Anita was decent this week he’s shite, last week Tiote looked like a sub for a Sunday league team…
    This week Tiote is the answer to all our problems, he’s not he’s shite as seen the week before.

    Swansea are a seriously decent outfit, reckon they will challenge top four, we played most the game with ten men, 2-0 is fair enough.

    Reality Check.

  • 172 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Aug 16, 2015 at 2:04 PM


    Yeah I dont think Newcastle fans can claim to be the best anymore there is never noise like this at St James’s must make such a difference to the players as well

  • 173 davis_toons // Aug 16, 2015 at 2:05 PM

    At 18 years of age Fabricio Coloccini was already playing CD.

    He was the most impressive defender through out the whole game at 2001 FIFA World Youth Championship which they won.

    You will see his reading of the game. The stand out defender you can hardly miss him.

  • 174 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Aug 16, 2015 at 2:10 PM

    So if we do get Willens and Thauvin its still going to leave us short at centre half and defensive midfield so in reality we need at least another 4 quality players before the window closes ?! If we dont get them its a failed window AGAIN by Charnley

    We have the money and should be looking to sign the following :

    Mikel or Lucas Loan

  • 175 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Aug 16, 2015 at 2:10 PM

    Also why is Perez not getting any game time at all??

  • 176 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Aug 16, 2015 at 2:11 PM

    Atmosphere stems from ambition. We have sod all and fans know that so now nerves override passion.

    Palace go for it and want to better themselves as best they can and their fans are feeding off it.

  • 177 Ron Knee // Aug 16, 2015 at 2:15 PM

    No red for Coquelin?

  • 178 davis_toons // Aug 16, 2015 at 2:16 PM

    Playing along side with good MF and Attackers

  • 179 Blofal // Aug 16, 2015 at 2:17 PM

    What I saw yesterday was our midfield get slaughtered. We played the same formation as Swansea however they pressed high and closed down where as we sat back and gave Shelvey and Sigurdsson room to tear us apart. On top of that Montero was far too quick for Janmaat which resulted in the red card.

    Wijnaldum needs to be on the ball to be effective but we didn’t have enough possession for that to happen. Colback and Anita were both outplayed. Obertan and Sissoko were our only outlets going forward but easily shut down because they had no help. Cisse as usual contributed nothing. In fact despite the yellow card Mitrovic was much more effective for the 10 minutes that he played.

    The only positive was Mbemba. Montero skinned him once (and a goal resulted) however every other time Mbemba had his measure. Once he gets settled we have a very good player there.

    I am hopeful that with Janmaat suspended and him being our ONLY right back, along with Sissoko injured this triggers some more spending before the transfer window closes.

  • 180 Novocastrian66 // Aug 16, 2015 at 2:17 PM

    What a surprise Coquelin not sent off.

  • 181 GEORDIE69 // Aug 16, 2015 at 2:19 PM

    Lee Charnley Bunga Party: In regards to Perez, I was just talking about that with my mate earlier. If we bought him for 10 million from Tenerife, I bet he then would be starting most games.

  • 182 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Aug 16, 2015 at 2:26 PM


    I hope your right but so many times I have seen evidence that the club does not do knee jerk signings if we have had injuries in the past we just dont buy players to cover them we just “make do” its not good enough and I hope Mclaren is going mental behind the scenes to make signings happen

    Even if we cant get our first choice players signed we need to then look at getting good players in on loan to fill the gaps in quality


    Yeah I would be starting Perez and Mitrovic up front supported by Aarons and Wijnadlum on the wings next week in a 442 to try and catch Man Utd off guard

  • 183 sing in the corner // Aug 16, 2015 at 2:26 PM

    check @171
    The same goes for Colback. He’s regularly voted / mooted as one of our top one or two performers in the side, but seems to attract a hard core of criticism whatever he does.
    Hold your fire lads, there are problems in all areas but most were saying 3 weeks ago we are on the right track to some extent. A fair way down the bottom end of the track, but still…
    ‘It will take time’ is not what anybody wants to hear but suck it up guys. It will.

  • 184 Mister Tuff // Aug 16, 2015 at 2:27 PM

    rotonda – indeed there are still one or two old pro Percy Brigade knocking about who want Palace to win
    The Palace fans were giving Toon fans and the area a real slagging off when Percy jumped ship.

  • 185 B1GSTEVE // Aug 16, 2015 at 2:27 PM

    lot of talk about colo. I agree with most of B&B @30.
    What noone has pointed out is that the Mc new world playing higher up the pitch, which we played preseason, doesnt suit colo. Hedidnt play any preseason. When season starts, colo comes in and we play too deep, leaving gaps foropposition to play in. For the money minded amongst you, seems to be alot these days, 2 years wages at almost 4m a year, plus whatever fee palace were offering, would have gone a long way towards a decent defender.

  • 186 Graeme // Aug 16, 2015 at 2:32 PM

    And even Pav agrees we need a CB!!!

  • 187 Ian Toon // Aug 16, 2015 at 2:33 PM

    Blackley- What’s up with your mate Mitrovic the hot head is going to destroy our best chance of winning something this season.
    The fair play league.

  • 188 Jib // Aug 16, 2015 at 2:50 PM

    Lee Mason what a f…..g coward
    Probably calls Arsene “Mr Wenger”
    That ‘s why I want CP to win , not cos of their fans , Pardew or Cabaye but because I f…….g detest Arsenal

  • 189 davis_toons // Aug 16, 2015 at 3:10 PM
    colo is in there ..the roof is not leaking.
    Argentina 5 -Paraguay 0

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