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Newcastle Must Get A Grip On Discipline

11:07 pm, Saturday, August 29th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 95 Comments

Last season it was injuries and lack of discipline that ravaged the Newcastle squad, and as well as suffering more injuries than any other side in the Premier League, we also lost players like Daryl Janmaat, Mike Williamson and Papiss Cisse, among others, because of their lack of control on the field.

Tim Krul saves from theo walcott

Tim Krul saving from Theo Walcott

And now in the first four league games of this season we have had two players sent off in the first half against two strong sides – Swansea and Arsenal – and that basically wiped out any chance we had in those two games – which we lost 2-0 and 1-0 respectively.

Against Arsenal today it was another wild tackle by Aleksandar Mitrovic, and while it looked to be a poor decision by referee Andre Marriner,  the slow motion videos do show that Aleksandar went in high with his boot just above the ankle.

If Newcastle do decide to appeal, we’re now sure it will be turned down.

So Aleksandar has picked up two yellow cards and one red card in his first four league games, and last week at Old Trafford was the only league game he went without getting a caution.

He already seems to a marked man with Premier League referees.

We also picked up six yellow cards today, so it seems the players need to get a  grip because because we cannot keep throwing games away by going down to 10 men.

Yes, it helps Newcastle supporters that we can blame referee Andre Marriner, who did not have a particularly good game – but if our players don’t get a grip quickly – how many sending offs will we have this season?

2 points from the first four games is not great, but the two games we lost we had a man sent off, and apart from the game at Swansea,  the team has looked good and the defense seems to be a vast improvement on last season.

It seems like the coaching of young Ian Cathro is already having an impact with the defense.

It will be important in the next few games to start picking up wins – and the only way we can do that is to have 11 men on the field.

Steve McClaren could take an honest look and see if our players are simply being too aggressive at times.

The truth is if we keep getting players sent off then we are being too aggressive.

It was another huge disappointment today, when we were reduced to 10 men after only 16 minutes, and now we have two weeks and two days before we play our next game at West Ham.


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  • 1 JackButler // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:10 PM

    Both red cards were unnecessary and both cost us big time SM needs to curtail this Asaph, I wan to see p,ayers fighting for the side, but there are ways and means to do that without seeing the ref carding everything in sight

  • 2 Take a Chancel on me // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:20 PM


  • 3 JackButler // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:22 PM

    Got to be honest, I’m still not sold on the Anita, Coldback partnership

  • 4 WWSBRD // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:23 PM

    Walcott had a mare didn’t he

  • 5 JackButler // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:23 PM

    Fcuking idiot

  • 6 WWSBRD // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:24 PM

    That’s cos it’s not a very good partnership mate haha

  • 7 JackButler // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:24 PM


    Mate he couldn’t finish a sandwich, for all his pace he was woeful in front of goal

  • 8 JackButler // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:27 PM


    There’s no bite there, Anita is very neat and tidy on the ball and offers a good outlet but for me Coldback is not dominant enough, he works hard but never seems to impose himself the way we need

  • 9 Take a Chancel on me // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:28 PM

    Martin Keown another biased barsteward

  • 10 WWSBRD // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:31 PM

    Shame Shearer isn’t on really

    I’d upgrade both though if it’s one or the other Colback for me keeps his place

  • 11 geordie157 // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:34 PM

    I like Anita and Colback but the two together doesn’t work. Needs to be one of them with either Sissoko or Wijnaldum alongside.

    I’d still like to see this line up at some point

    Janmaat, Mbemba, Colo, Haidara
    Sissoko, Colback
    Wijnaldum, De Jong, Thauvin

  • 12 JackButler // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:34 PM


    I think a fit and on form Tiote keeps Coldback out of the side tbh, though forth life of me I can’t remember the last time we had him fit and on form

  • 13 WWSBRD // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:34 PM

    Afellays red card is class

  • 14 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:35 PM

    Apart from not giving Arsenal a penalty, the ref had a decent game.

  • 15 Take a Chancel on me // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:36 PM

    5 red cards in prem today, I think Afellay was the only one that going by the book is a red but even that was iffy

  • 16 WWSBRD // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:37 PM

    I think a one legged Cabaye with a dicky tummy and a headache keeps Anita out if the team mate

  • 17 overtheline // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:38 PM

    Looking again in HD I think Mitro did rake him down the shin and it was a studs offence which he could have pulled out of – so straight red.

    I think the Gooners are Tom Daley double twiat and pike types but we should not be getting seven players carded in any match – so it is our own discipline that needs sorting.

  • 18 Belfast // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:39 PM

    Charlie Adam meant his 100% one of the dirtiest players about.

  • 19 WWSBRD // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:39 PM

    Adam knew what he was doing he is a dirty player

  • 20 Munster Mag // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    Nasty stuff out of our lads. Micro is a dumb thug. Sissoko deserved yellow too. Stop the biased analysis guys. Steve needs to cope on. We look like a low ranking outfit because teams like palace ( pardew again proving guys here wrong) West ham Swansea etc have all moved on.Mitro has to help us by being less of a nasty dumb knacker

  • 21 JackButler // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    Mark Hughes, always good at not giving a shyte for the refs hahaha

  • 22 JackButler // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:42 PM


    True mate, but Anita is just about the best that we currently have for that role, let’s hope that story about SM having £150 million to spend over the next few seasons is true aye

  • 23 Take a Chancel on me // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:43 PM

    The way things are going the FA/FIFA are trying to make Football a non contact sport, if that’s the way the sport ends up I don’t want anything to do with it!

  • 24 JackButler // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:45 PM


    Going on some of the Reds today how the hell Huth stayed on is beyond me

  • 25 Take a Chancel on me // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:46 PM

    JB you are right

  • 26 Sir Braveheart // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:46 PM

    Definitely a red for Mitro. Sorry, but he could have pulled out of it. Unnecessary challenge, clumsy and foolish.

    Mitro should be given instructions not to attempt a tackle ever again. We don’t need him to tackle, just to be a strong target man.

  • 27 Belfast // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:47 PM

    The big Serb deserved his red all day long Munster. I think he’s a bit thick.

  • 28 WWSBRD // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:48 PM

    …for 10 mill we could of had Cabs back haha

    But aye for now it’s not a priority for the club to sort of Anita and Colback will do enough to keep us in the league and that’s what Ashley is after

  • 29 WWSBRD // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:49 PM

    As for the 150 mill I don’t believe it for a second

  • 30 overtheline // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:49 PM


    Huth a def red !!

  • 31 JackButler // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:51 PM


    I wouldn’t take the striking Charlie back if he was on a free 😉

    The £150 million story is true mate, didn’t you know old Mike has turned over a new leaf????

  • 32 Belfast // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:51 PM

    I’m hoping we sign another striker to be honest hopefully Austin last minute. I won’t be holding my breath though.

  • 33 JackButler // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:52 PM


    Without a doubt mate Huth should have gone

  • 34 JackButler // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:54 PM

    Harry Kane playing more like Michael Cane of late

  • 35 WWSBRD // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:55 PM

    I would without hesitation mate

    After a couple years of this new leaf I might believe it

  • 36 jimmysmith // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:56 PM

    Apart from two rash decisions resulting in two reds and a very tough start, we look a decent proposition, with good morale, shape and a willingness to play football. I think our season proper under McClaren starts now.

  • 37 Belfast // Aug 29, 2015 at 11:57 PM

    Man Utd where willing to pay 40 million for him or something ridiculous like that. Probably be ringing them back before Tuesday lol

  • 38 gaz 44 // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:05 AM

    I’m still not having that as a red card. , maybe was rash but his eye line doesn’t change he follows the ball .. Looks worse in slow mo but your talking split seconds from mitro attempting to head the ball to trying to control it.. To control it he arcs his foot back to bring the ball down you can’t do that with the toes facing downwards,, the ref had it in for mitro from the start, never gave a free kick with kosneily had his arms all over him but gave one when mitro gave a little nudge. The main issue I have he has brought this on Himself in the first two games.. Like I said early if it was Walcott it probably wouldn’t be a yellow but as he already has a bad rep he’s gonna get them decisions going against him

  • 39 Munster Mag // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:13 AM

    Gas I wanted to disagree with known but micro deserved it. We look a bottom 8 team but I have only seem motd, not Be live. We’ll be marked as a dirty team and micro marked out as a nutter.but he is and Steve did us no favours describing him publicly as he did a couple of weeks ago. This guy may not be playable if he can’t cop on.

  • 40 Munster Mag // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:17 AM

    Belfast if micro was a rugbyplayer for a good team the coach and shrink wud have him nailed for his dumb attitude. He even looks like a plank. Naturally I will go gaga when he scores but this guy is looking like another Carr misguided hard on.

  • 41 gaz 44 // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:19 AM

    It’s his rep for me I honestly think only a few players would of been sent off for that, possibly Rooney ballotelli Tiote for definite idiot from the unwashed and maybe a couple of others. I don’t know wether I’m standing up for him as the tackle didn’t deserve a red or if I want to blame him as its his own stupid fault

  • 42 Bobbybee // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:34 AM

    Jimmy, I think you’ve nailed it mate. I’m looking after the city and chelsea games, where any points are good, we have a run of games against teams we must target as winnable. A good run then repairs the damage of a difficult start.

    Gaz, I’m with you on that too. No malice, he steps on him, he doesn’t stamp on him. It’s a mistimed tackle and warrented no more than yellow. Adam’s, for Stoke, that’s a deliberate stamp! Maybe Macca can instruct him not to tackle in their half unless it can produce a chance. Just block and intercept. He’s a target now, rightly or not, so we need to prevent refs from making those decisions. He doesn’t need to be making those tackles if he can help it.

  • 43 Munster Mag // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:48 AM

    Bobby it’s a filthy raking challenge from a guy who kicked a bloke in the air in his first game. And if we lose this target man to regular suspensions we need cisse to be a target man. Not good. Mitro is immature and needs to be a strong man,not a bully with a temper.

  • 44 Bobbybee // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:51 AM

    I think Mitrovic is the only one of the four big signings to have been caught out by the pace. All his cards are down to arriving a split second after the ball has gone imo. They’re all basically late tackles. Is the PL a split second faster than the BL? Probably is. He needs to sharpen up and realise you don’t get that split second extra he’s been used to. Over to the coaching staff. Work some magic.

  • 45 Bobbybee // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:02 AM

    Munster, one of those agree to disagree times 😉 I just don’t see it your way. All about opinions innit? I just think he’s arrived late – again – and stepped on him. It was a foul and a yellow imo, but not a red. But then, opinion in this case is moot anyway, coz Marriner gave it and his opinion is the one that matters. 🙂

  • 46 SPRINGY // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:24 AM

    i think it was harsh,but its done and mitro needs to learn and quick….still think the ref was poor but like the sending off its done and they say things level out over the course of a season… just glad we appear to be gettin a bit better and feel confident despite results….if we are to get any players in i’d like a striker and centre midfielder

  • 47 Bobbybee // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:55 AM

    I’m not sure there’ll be more signings this window. The club seem to have got certain players targeted and are prepared to wait. Thauvin being an ideal example. Macca revealed there was another £100m to spend over January and next summer, which is excellent news by anybody’s standards. I’m unashamedly excited by what could lie ahead. 😉

  • 48 beermonkey // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:03 AM


    When did mclaren say there is another 100mill to spend

  • 49 Magpie Season // Aug 30, 2015 at 3:51 AM

    87 votes for Mitrovic as best player in the poll…

  • 50 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 30, 2015 at 4:00 AM

    That was never a sending off he just miss timed while trying to trap the ball. No intent or malice what so ever. The ref ruined the game 16 mins in.

    Im proud of the lads and McClaren for still giving it a go, they tried, the bookings show desire and want, they could of easily rolled over.

    The game was made very difficult early on, i hope that ref got slaughtered on MOTD i didnt see it.

  • 51 Magpie Season // Aug 30, 2015 at 4:00 AM

    As for the appeal against the suspension, the best outcome is reducing the ban to only 1 match, as he will definetly be suspended. Notice how he did not protest against the card. It did not help with Coquelin screaming in agony which was heard even amongst 52,000.

    What the management should do in my opinion is set an example by issuing a formal warning to Mitrovic. After a formal warning a player can be fined up to 2 weeks of wages relating to on-field poor disciplinary behaviour if it continues.

  • 52 JDdubai // Aug 30, 2015 at 5:12 AM

    Cant argue with the red as i said yesterday.could be a yellow from some refs but if you go over the ball, late, studs up and you go down his shin then you run the risk of a red. If it was the other way round we would have been crying for a red.

    Mitrovic cant be trusted at the moment, after the first game McClaren said he would get him to calm down and it clearly hasnt worked. If you cant trust the players to stay on the pitch then its the bench for them.

    Think he will come good eventually but until he grows up he is a liability.

    Interesting to see if this pushes us to get another CF in…

  • 53 BandB // Aug 30, 2015 at 6:06 AM

    It’s being argued that this tricky run of eight games to start means we can start our season proper with as few as eight points and still be pretty happy.
    Eight games is nearly a quarter of a season. Lucky then that we don’t have to play these eight teams again, some of them away.

  • 54 Novocastrian66 // Aug 30, 2015 at 6:27 AM

    The ref was shocking yesterday. No ifs or buts. His one sided approach was a disgrace. He was giving yellow cards around for minor infringements. As for Mitrovic’s challenge, there wasnt any malice or intent. He didn’t go after the player and there was minimum contact. Anyone who believes that deserved a red card should start watching netball.

  • 55 Jail for Ashley // Aug 30, 2015 at 6:28 AM

    How late into motd are we ?

  • 56 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 30, 2015 at 6:35 AM

    Its on soon like, 7:30 i think jail.

    I get that it could be seen as a wreckless challenge but there was no intent or malice, his eyes were fixed to the ball. It was just a miss timed challenge. A booking is all it needed 16 mins in. The ref started as he meant to go on cards allover the shop. He had a shocker.

    That’s how to ruin a football game.

  • 57 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 30, 2015 at 6:38 AM

    I still believe it was a harsh red card and a decision that ruined the game!

    …Refs needs to have a sense of situation. A red like that after only 16 mins. You really have to believe in that red to pull that card.

  • 58 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 30, 2015 at 6:50 AM

    What has the general consensus been in the media regarding the red?…or maybe even the total amount of cards this weekend!

    …hindsight is a beautiful thing and so is instant replay 🙂 but Refs need to learn from their mistakes.

  • 59 Ian Toon // Aug 30, 2015 at 6:50 AM

    Ian Toon
    August 29, 2015
    Macca needs to sort out the indiscipline in the squad. He clearly had the team fired up but that’s our 8th red card in 2015. It’s good to see passion and determination in our play but we can’t carry on like this because we will simply be targetted by referees. Mitrovic has the required physicality to become just what we need in the premiership but he needs to calm down and stop seriously handicapping us.
    We do need to start games with a quicker passing tempo and less static play. Our opening programme of games always appeared difficult but after the international break games against West Ham and Watford represent games where we should be picking up points.

  • 60 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 30, 2015 at 6:56 AM

    Are you saying we have had 6 red cards from January to May?

  • 61 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 30, 2015 at 6:59 AM

    Mitrovic needs to grow up, he is lacking mentally but then again you can’t take that away from his game. He just needs to control himself more often. I said last week refs will target him easily its his reputation now. But that was never a red just 16 mins in it was a liberty. He needed cautioned thats all.

    I want the lad to do well but Austin should have been brought in. Tired of the gambles with strikers. If he dosn’t come here we have well and truly missed the boat. Mitrovic has alot to learn.

  • 62 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:02 AM

    Agree on upping the tempo – but we will never be able to do it with Mitrovic on the pitch. His movement and ball control/touch is woeful, always looking for the defender and not the ball.
    I would get rid of him tomorrow and bring in Austin or someone. Still need a creative midfield player – like Cabaye as we are going to create very few chances.
    yes our defence has tightened up but our creativity poor and could end up in a relegation scrap as we cannot score – three blank games already – over 300 minutes without a goal and I don’t think we had a shot on target yesterday

  • 63 BandB // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:02 AM


    Second or third from the end.

  • 64 BandB // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:07 AM


    Put your shin pads on…..

  • 65 Mag52 // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:24 AM

    Anybody know what Mitro’s disciplinary record was at his previous club ?

  • 66 Ian Toon // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:30 AM

    As well as being a Toon fan I am also a football fan. So well done Palace and Pardew. Anyone who’s been there will know that it’s one of the best away visits. The fans are very much like the Geordies with their love and enthusiasm of their team. It’s unlike any other London ground – we’ve got a good record there as well.
    I am with the likes of Jimmy Smith and BobbyBee, there is much to look forward to from this squad and Macca in the months ahead. The panic talk from the usual suspects after four games Is misplaced.( happy for Jib to produce at a later date).
    It’s football and titles and final league platings are not decided in August and I have every confidence that Macca will have us climbing the table. For those of a nervous disposition everything is going to be just fine.

  • 67 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:31 AM

    Only highlight of this weekend has been Sherwood doing his hamstring kicking the water bottle. Brilliant haha.

  • 68 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:35 AM

    Wish I had your optimism.
    Yeah we look a all-round better team this season playing better football passing out from back – but we need to score goals and I cannot se where that is coming from at the minute

  • 69 Ian Toon // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:38 AM

    Charlie – Macca needs to get him back on track, he’s only 20 and he cost £ 13 million(?) – he was always likely to be targeted by refs/ players/ fans after his fiery start. We’re not going to write off our investment and he should be seen as a work in progress.

  • 70 Jail for Ashley // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:41 AM

    Chelsea fans are like Geordies ? The mind truly boggles !

  • 71 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:41 AM

    He hasn’t got a great record discipline wise, he averages 1 red a season and about 8 yellows. Not great, but a far better record than Diego Costa has, who is a similarly aggressive and combative centre forward.

    I think it was Bobbybee who commented on him adjusting to a slightly higher tempo of game, that is probably closer to the truth than those calling him an idiot or a thug. Still, needs to be well managed, a good test for the coaching staff.

    Mitrovic was a borderline red, you see them given, but equally you more often than not see a yellow for it. I wouldn’t appeal it, just learn from it and move on.

    The most disappointing thing is he is unavailable for the two games that we should be winning in from our opening 8.

    There were a number of soft red cards yesterday throughout the league matches.Whether that is all bad refereeing, or they have been told to penalise offences more who knows.

  • 72 Jail for Ashley // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:43 AM

    Cheers BandB,
    I’ll have to tape it then, i forgot last night and I’ve got to go to work, was hoping to see it this morning.

  • 73 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:45 AM

    We will know where we are after 10-12 games.

    We have some good players and a decent bench at the minute without injuries but I really doubt it’s good enough for top 8. Think we will finish 10th, early days but what I have seen so far i’d go 10th of I were to bet.

    Pardew was never as bad as people made out on here. The squad was shocking we are just in the process of fixing it now, mid-table manager who wasn’t backed and had his best players sold and not replaced. Huge job especially with the injuries over the past 4 yrs apart from the 5th place finish where we were lucky. I’ll be quite happy with tenth this season considering the neglect of the squad this past 4 yrs.

  • 74 Ian Toon // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:45 AM

    Charlie- You need to ask yourself some questions.
    Have you played football? Do you know all about football? Have you watched a lot of football?
    Following which and reflecting you’ll have a clearer idea as to who’s line of thinking on here you need to go along with and those you simply ignore.
    the only thing I am reconciled too is that we’re not going to be playing Champions League football. It’s early days mate.

  • 75 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:46 AM

    Other than that it was another decent backs to the wall display. The defence did a decent job, with more effort working for each other then we have seen in a long time. The next two matches will be a truer test of where we are, Watford and West Ham are both winnable games, we should be setting our stall out to attack in those games.

  • 76 Slank // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:48 AM

    If I was a neutral my view of the match would have been.

    1. Newcastle are a dirty team out to harm the Arsenal players. Was this by design or just indiscipline. ?
    2. The Arsenal players showed admirable restraint given the assault on them.
    3. The ref could not ignore the persistent fouling.
    4. The ref was not consistent as Mitrovic’s foul was no different no Sissoko’s foul.
    5. Almost all the yellows were justified.
    6. Newcastle were totally outplayed. The statistics proved that.
    7. Arsenal should have had a penalty.
    8. Given Arsenal’s domination Newcastle denied them any further goals by a well organised and resolute defence.
    9. Future pointers are that Arsenal are top four. Newcastle are mid table.

  • 77 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:49 AM

    I see Mitrovic has somehow managed to get more MotM votes than Anita, Colback, Sissoko, Janmaat…

  • 78 Jib // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:49 AM

    After an afternoon , night and ,morning of reflection , I think Supermac probably fired the team up too much with his prematch teamtalk.
    I still think the Mitro red was harsh but we were flying into the gunners a bit too much.
    It’s probably a legacy of Steve’s last experience of playing Arsenal which was at Boro when they put 7 past the Teessiders.

    Also Marriner has a bit of history with the Arse it was he who mistakenly sent off Kieran Gibb instead of O/C and may feel beholden to Wenger (who knows what goes through ref’s minds these days)

    I read somewhere that Vinny Jones , David Batty , and Mitro have the same number of reds and Mitro is only 20 !

    There is a quite sophisticated grapevine within the profooty world and Coquellin I’m sure will be getting his card marked as a crybaby and will get his comeuppance eventually, Samir Nasri (ironicallywhen he was at Arsenal) had that rep but had to change eventually.

    I think as a team we got an immense amount of good stuff out of yesterday’s bruising encounter.

    Next game Hammers away – bring it on – I can’t wait

  • 79 optimistic prime // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:52 AM

    Martin Keoan on motd saying NUFC are to aggressive, you couldn’t make it up.

    A few tough tackles but nothing malicious, just arsenal players acting like bairns.

    Mitrovich challenge was clumsy nothing more, the arsenal lad rolled around like his leg was snapped when in reality Mitrovich stood on his foot.

    It’s ok playing football but if you don’t play the other game of conning the ref you get nowt.

  • 80 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:53 AM

    On a positive note, we have only conceded 1 goal against the Mancs and Gunners. It could of been alot worse.

  • 81 Slank // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:57 AM

    optimistic prime @ 79

    ‘Martin Keoan saying NUFC are too aggressive, you couldn’t make it up..’

    He would know. Takes a thief to catch a thief and all that !

  • 82 Ian Toon // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:59 AM

    Lilongwe- That says more about those that voted that way than anything else.

  • 83 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 30, 2015 at 8:00 AM

    No I have never played football – Tyneside Amateur league many moons ago
    No I have never been to a match – just about a thousand
    No I no nothing about football – maybe not but everyone has a opinion and my opinion is at the minute he is not premiership ready to lead the line – looks clumsy got a lousy first touch always looking for his marker when in aerial duels to easily to wind up

  • 84 Jib // Aug 30, 2015 at 8:02 AM

    Jail for Ashley // Aug 30, 2015 at 7:41 AM
    Chelsea fans are like Geordies ? The mind truly boggles !


  • 85 Ian Toon // Aug 30, 2015 at 8:09 AM

    Charlie- I was talking about the team and how it’s early days. West Ham have won two away games but struggled at home with their fans calling for Sam to come back. Mitrovic is a work in progress as far as playing in the Premiership.

  • 86 toonbrother // Aug 30, 2015 at 8:10 AM

    We’re already in the relegation zone
    and its only going to get worse with colocinnin in the mix
    without a good defence you are destined to fail!
    these are the facts

  • 87 Ian Toon // Aug 30, 2015 at 8:10 AM

    Jib- Thanks. He’s not on my reading list.

  • 88 cyprus // Aug 30, 2015 at 8:14 AM

    On the new agressive side to our game. Bring it on! Before you counter-aggressively attack me, let me explain. And let me add, I prefer the beautiful side of the game with ‘artists’ like Messi, etc.

    Arsenal’s invincibles were thuggish throughout that season, collecting 5 reds and plenty of yellows in the process. Wenger was constantly having to defend them. Wasn’t it that season when they slapped around plenty of ManU players WITHOUT getting a red card? Van Nistelroy was it?

    Of course, don’t get me wrong, they must tone it down. Violent fouls rightly get punished with reds… even though, we’ve had that sort of foul against us many times last year, without even a foul having been given. Consistency man.

    We must pressure teams and not give them the sort of respect and space we gave to ManU and Swansea. If you’ve played football, you know that ‘fear’ and someone right on to you every time you touch the ball, are key factors.

  • 89 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 30, 2015 at 8:15 AM

    But can we afford to start him every game – I don’t think so at the minute he is not ready. I would rather see us start with Cisse and bring on Mit with half an hour to go

  • 90 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 30, 2015 at 8:18 AM

    And as for Keoan – he is one to talk kettle callin the pot. Yeah just stand off Arsenal and let them play their pretty football

  • 91 Slank // Aug 30, 2015 at 8:22 AM

    Looking back at the first four games, with the exception of the game against Swansea, you can see the quite dramatic change for the better in the organisation, determination, commitment and desire of the team compared to last season.

    The defence in particular looks like a proper defence.

    Once the attack and midfield starts to gell and click in we should be leaving the relegation zone pretty quickly me thinks.

  • 92 Jib // Aug 30, 2015 at 8:25 AM

    Lyon have bought Kemen for €700,000

  • 93 Ian Toon // Aug 30, 2015 at 8:26 AM

    Charlie- I agree. Cisse’s goals: games record is good. When you think that with ten men ManU and Arsenal didn’t trounce us I see that as a positive outcome given the heavy handicap. Just think about our woeful defence and organisation under Carver. It looks that it’s going to take Mitrovic longer to harness his aggression to function, than the other signings but that is the challenge for an experienced manager. I don’t believe you should judge the teams goal potential on the games played so far.

  • 94 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 30, 2015 at 8:30 AM

    How biased is Keown?

  • 95 the ledge // Aug 30, 2015 at 8:31 AM

    People on here don’t half get carried away mitro got sent off it happens , some on here are wanting him sold for fcuk sake ,and then we wonder why we are know as the most delude fans .Christ some people on here don’t have a clue make u Laughlin really.

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