Newcastle Legend’s Opinion On Mitrovic Dismissal


The sending off of Aleksandar Mitrovic yesterday after only 16 minutes cost us the game, and referee Andre Marriner has come under severe criticism for the decision so early in the game.

And while the challenge of Mitrovic on Coquelin at first looked fairly innocuous,  when you see it a few more times it does seem that Mitrovic goes over the top.

That’s what Alan Shearer thinks – that it was over the top and a red card.

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Alan Shearer – it was a red card – he went over the top

Shearer complimented the Newcastle team on their spirit and commitment.

Of course it’s all over now – and we were beaten 1-0 so that’s two games out of the first four that we have had somebody sent off in the first half of a league game.

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Should Mitrovic Have Been Sent Off For Foul On Coquelin?

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  • sparky55

    Aug 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #1

    Mitrovic was unlucky there…the ball span up in the air….his eyes were locked on the ball and he was attempting to bring the ball under control when the arsenal player also doing exactly the same put his leg in the way of Mitrovic’s foot coming down.

    There was nothing Mitrovic could have done to come out of the movement he was in so in my book it’s accidental.

    Slow motion actually makes stuff look worse but there was no intent and it was an accidental coming together IMO

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  • Ron Knee

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #2

    I don’t think Nitro’s sending off cost us the game. We were completely dominated by Arsenal from the kick-off.

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  • Slank

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #3

    REPOST

    Jack @ 1

    Only part of the formation is not working as it should in my opinion.

    The defence looks right. The midfield and attack haven’t gelled yet.

    With the attack I’m not surprised as two of the three attackers are new and one of them will be absent for the next three games.

    With the midfield the opposition seem to advance on our defence to easily. Gini is superb breaking forward but doesn’t appear to have the tenacity of a Cabaye or Tiote. Colback and Anita cover the ground and get stuck in but there is something that isn’t clicking.

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  • firebug666

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #4

    sparky55

    That’s exactly how I see it, and if their is no intent it is not a red card.

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  • Patoon

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #5

    Think ur spot on ther sparky, slow motion def makes it look worse

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #6

    Surprising, he was commited to trapping the ball, Just timed it wrong.

    These slow mo’s make everything look alot worse than they really are.

    Clumbsy and accidental. I don’t think that warrants a red.

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  • Fatman_joe

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #7

    Definitely accidental. So hard to put your foot down on someone else’s foot when not looking.. even harder when that foot is moving! The other player made a real meal of it which didn’t help neither did mitrovic’s reputation. Wouldn’t have been surprised if arsene sent them out to get him sent off.

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  • BandB

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #8

    I wouldn’t be surprised if every manager sends them out to get him sent off.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #9

    Each their own. Shearer thinks it’s a red and I think it’s a yellow!

    …it seems the rules are up for interpretation!

    I would think now with this weekend’s red and yellow cards precedence had been set. Cards should be flying high from now on otherwise I would argue transparency has gone lost and players and clubs are not being treated equally!

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  • Fatman_joe

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #10

    Sissoko’s mini stamp was worse coz there was intent and that only got a yellow. And other thing, had giroud or Walcott committed the same foul it would have been a yellow and all the pundits would have called it a clumsy strikers tackle.

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  • Slank

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #11

    The refs need help.

    Amber cards.

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  • firebug666

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #12

    Toon-Prodigy

    I would say clumbsy from the Arsenal player, Mitrovic is already committed and his leg is coming down as the Arsenal player sticks his leg in, Mitrovic had no where to go at that point.

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  • Bambams

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #13

    Big Al….Can’t believe he has turned to the ‘BBC Dark Side’…..

    Opinions make this game what it is.

    Give us a bit more time and I think this team will work. Still not sure about Sissoko at times, still think he could be much more influential in a game.

    It will come.

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  • Ron Knee

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #14

    I thought we played better when we were down to ten men. We went into our new-look defensive shell and kept the opposition out. It was a lucky goal, after all. However, I don’t see this as a long-term solution!

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  • Bambams

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #15

    I have certainly been impressed with Mbemba, what a signing he is. Looks like he has been here ages.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #16

    How can he even say it’s over the top? Wasn’t as if he slid in being reckless. The lad is trying to trap the ball and is committed. It’s misjudged nothing more.

    Nahh, not having it.

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #17

    BandB
    Don’t know if you were there Tuesday night – but I think you are spot on with opposition managers targeting Mitro to wind him up.
    On Tuesday night as soon as he came on Ryan Cresswell was in his face niggling, grabbing him

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  • lochinvar

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #18

    slow down Ed , I can’t keep up !

    The FA have lost control of the game and the Refs reflect this.
    We’ve already seen the disastrous decision making of Refs gift Liverpool six points.
    Yesterday’s carnival of red cards across the Premiership and a variety of bad and inconsistent decisions is evident to all.
    In a previous game/incident ( I forget which one ) a decision was apparently changed by the Fourth Ref – what’s the ruling there then ? Was such an option used yesterday for the Red card decisions or is it a random process that might or might not be used depending which officials are officiating.

    Additionally we see the playground antics of the likes of the Chelsea and Arsenal players interrupting play and particularly in their own half getting away with it but destroying attacking breakouts nevertheless. Many of those fouls go unpunished and the Refs are not applying the rules fairly. The pundits should do some analysis on that – how many fouls that stop break out attacking play from a defences own half have seen yellow or red cards this season ?
    Then we had the so called Penalty claim by Arsenal yesterday – did the TV pundits analyse that then – because it’s quite clear that the Arsenal defender flicks his left foot backwards and sideways in a very deliberate move to simulate a trip. It’s the antics of professional cheats and wasn’t even remotely a natural move and Mariner saw it as that – but typically failed to give the Yellow card for a dive .
    Wenger last week wanted TMO decision making introduced but conveniently forgot that request this week as there were no Oscars available. However….he’s right and with all errors refs are making and the betting scams going on and opportunities to bet on “incidents” and when they take place you have to believe that the FA would move to introduce TMO technology immediately to get some fair decision making across all games then but that might upset FIFA . The stench is becoming unbearable.
    Rant over.

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  • Slank

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #19

    Whilst refs will deny that they have preconceived views on the discipline of certain players before a game starts it is nevertheless only natural for them, as it is for all fans, to know who is likely to foul.

    In this respect Mitrovic has by his rash actions in his career in the Premiership alerted everyone that he is headstrong and is susceptible to rash challenges.

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  • Fatman_joe

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #20

    I’ve been impressed with a lot of what we’ve been doing and much happier with the squad. But I was very fed up with the amount of times our boys kept trying to dribble past arsenal and losing it. Colback guilty at least twice and sissoko too. They all seemed to turn into Tiote yesterday.

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  • Ron Knee

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #21

    What happened to Aarons yesterday? Is he injured?

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #22

    Slank…I don’t agree we need amber cards!

    …we need clear rules and refs who can think as much as they can read!

    They need to be able to make a judgement call that doesn’t wreck the game (more than it has to)

    These days they are four officials and at times their decision-making is far worse than it was in the past.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #23

    toonbrother // Aug 30, 2015 at 8:27 AM

    I dont blame him. We’d be better off playing MItrovic in defence instead of Colocinni
    Anyone would be better than Colo in Central defence.
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    Really think this guy (toonbrother) needs help. The most random subject and he somehow works it back to Colo!!

    The bigoted hate fixation is off the scale. As it happens Colo has just had 2 really good back to back games and still he gets grief.

    I’v never been a fan of saylor but I freely admit he was outstanding at Manu. To blindly hate, no matter what, is a very dangerous mindset to have.

    The trouble with Mitro is that every defender has his number now and know he’s not the brightest and very, very easy to wind up.

    13M is starting to look a lot for a seemingly overweight thug with more bookings than any goals yet. Thought the penny had dropped at Manu where he worked his socks off. Obviously not yet.

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  • firebug666

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #24

    Don’t know if anyone has seen this yet:

    The agent of Newcastle United striker Papiss Cisse has admitted that the Senegal international could still leave the club before the end of the transfer window.

    The 30-year-old has been linked with moves to clubs in China and the Arabian Gulf League, while Turkish side Galatasaray are also thought to be interested.

    Madou Diene told the Newcastle Chronicle: “If the right offer comes I will ask Papiss to consider it. Nobody wants to be at a club where you don’t feel wanted.

    “There has been no offer from Galarasaray yet, it is only talk in the media. But there has been nothing concrete. Perhaps if there was it would be considered because at Papiss’s age he wants to play regular football.

    “No matter which team he plays for he needs service because he will score goals. During him time at Newcastle, he’s never had proper service which makes his goal tally even more remarkable. As long as Papiss is here he will score goals. He can’t do that if he’s sitting on the bench.”

    Cisse, who still has 18 months remaining on his contract at St James’s Park, joined Newcastle from Freiburg in 2012.

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  • Ron Knee

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #25

    Fatman
    Exactly. This is why we can’t keep possession – poor passing. And how many times do we fail to take any advantage from a throw-in?

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  • musomag

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #26

    Regardless of it being red or yellow we had serious striker and CB problems before the transfer window opened and the situation remains unchanged…plus there’s increasing noise about a last minute exit for Cisse too, which would now be disastrous. Mitrovic is clearly a liability, hopefully he can wise-up. Austin was and still is the safest bet for us.

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  • Bambams

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #27

    In the next twenty years we will have decisions made by the watching public via ‘Sky live Decisions’…

    You will be given five seconds to press either the red or yellow button on your Sky Remote control…

    Sorry fellas I am days off today and in one of those mischievous moods…

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #28

    lochinvar…I agree with alot of your points mate!

    …I hope at some point it gets enough for some and a complaint will be send to the EU!

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  • Fatman_joe

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #29

    Ron. It’s painful; yesterday we had so throw in during an attack, went backwards and it ended up back with our defenders. But things are much improved from last season.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #30

    i can’t stick marinner but i think a lot of people are maybe seeing it through back and white specs. if an arsenal player had done what nitro did we would have been screaming for a red.

    we were making an awful lot of reckless challenges all over the pitch and trying to kick them instead of playing football.

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  • BandB

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #31

    Charlie,

    I think this could become something of a theme unless steps are taken to address it, and only we can take those steps.
    Opposition managers and players will have already identified him as a bomb waiting to go off. Refs will no doubt have noticed and inwardly digested. The minute Marriner reached for his pocket I just knew it was going to be a straight red.
    The urge for managers and fans to defend their own player is visceral. But in the longer term, it would be better for the team if we didn’t encourage him to feel like the victim of a miscarriage of justice.
    The kid clearly sees red in the blink of an eye. He has that air of barely suppressed menace about him. If you were a landlord and he walked into your bar, you’d have your eye of him straight away. This is just how how life is.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #32

    Cisse should be away this window with the way we operate. Sell him while he is worth something to claw back some cash then put it towards Austin.

    We will get him cheaper than 15 mil the longer it goes down to the wire.

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  • Fatman_joe

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #33

    Band b, agreed for the most part but I genuinely don’t think he saw red. I think it was a genuine intention to control the ball. You could see his reaction afterwards was disbelief and not just footballer ‘who me?’ disbelief.

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  • Ron Knee

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #34

    Fatman
    If they were replaced – big ‘if’ – I’d happily let Cissé, Tioté and Sissoko go!

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #35

    although the defense was heroic at manu and again yesterday with MBemba being superb, we seem to be even further away now to playing free flowing, passing and attacking football.

    yes it’s early days still but against swansea, manu and arsenal we have surrendered so much possession in every match. It has all been attritional, dreaded ”containment”, Soto game apart.

    Wijnaldum has struggled to make a real impact in this system and the less said about nitro the better. MBemba has been great and Thauvin obviously has a lot of promise.

    The only person who seems to consistently drive us forward at all is perez who was bizarrely dropped after the manu game. Hopefully he’ll come back in for the suspended Nitro..

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  • JDdubai

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #36

    Mitro has no-one to blame but himself.

    His stupid foul vs Soton, could easily have been red.
    His dirty foul vs Swansea, could have been red.
    His tackle vs Arsenal, easily red or yellow but because of his previous actions yellows will generally become reds if there is any doubt now.

    Also 20yr old and has 6 red cards already in his career, he clearly has previous and knows when he is fouling and when not so dont know how people are so sure there was no intent.

    Anyway each to their own opinion, just sort his head out, get him to grow up and we have a player on our hands. Would still get another Cf in before tuesday though as i dont think Mitro can be trusted this season.

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  • BandB

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #37

    Joe,

    I am not saying he saw red yesterday, in the sense of losing his rag. Yesterday was either a clumsy mistimed striker’s tackle or a calculated over the ball studs-up shinner.
    Either way, he likes to put himself about. He may not be a thug, and I am not saying he is, as I haven’t enough evidence one way or the other. But it won’t help him, in reality, that he looks a bit like one.

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  • murvar

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #38

    It was a red card. Slo-Mo is neither here nor there. In the instant Mitro wanted to hurt the guy. We could do with Big Al hired as a consultant to show Mitro how to handle your self safely by controlling your aggression, then he can be an asset instead of a liability.

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  • Ron Knee

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #39

    RH
    I’m puzzled by this. We tried to play good football against Soton. But what’s happened since? Perez’s omission was bizarre and where was Aarons?

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  • Fatman_joe

    Aug 30, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #40

    I was a bit ashamed of the whole team in that respect yesterday. I was with a forest fan yesterday who knows McLaren well from his derby/forest time and said he never set up his teams to play dirty.. So is it us? Terrible discipline last season which seems to have continued this season. I wonder whether the premier league reputation as being physical has meant our new boys are coming in a bit over zealous.

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