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Newcastle Legend’s Opinion On Mitrovic Dismissal

9:57 am, Sunday, August 30th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 207 Comments

The sending off of Aleksandar Mitrovic yesterday after only 16 minutes cost us the game, and referee Andre Marriner has come under severe criticism for the decision so early in the game.

And while the challenge of Mitrovic on Coquelin at first looked fairly innocuous,  when you see it a few more times it does seem that Mitrovic goes over the top.

That’s what Alan Shearer thinks – that it was over the top and a red card.

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Alan Shearer – it was a red card – he went over the top

Shearer complimented the Newcastle team on their spirit and commitment.

Of course it’s all over now – and we were beaten 1-0 so that’s two games out of the first four that we have had somebody sent off in the first half of a league game.


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  • 1 sparky55 // Aug 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    Mitrovic was unlucky there…the ball span up in the air….his eyes were locked on the ball and he was attempting to bring the ball under control when the arsenal player also doing exactly the same put his leg in the way of Mitrovic’s foot coming down.

    There was nothing Mitrovic could have done to come out of the movement he was in so in my book it’s accidental.

    Slow motion actually makes stuff look worse but there was no intent and it was an accidental coming together IMO

  • 2 Ron Knee // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:03 AM

    I don’t think Nitro’s sending off cost us the game. We were completely dominated by Arsenal from the kick-off.

  • 3 Slank // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:04 AM


    Jack @ 1

    Only part of the formation is not working as it should in my opinion.

    The defence looks right. The midfield and attack haven’t gelled yet.

    With the attack I’m not surprised as two of the three attackers are new and one of them will be absent for the next three games.

    With the midfield the opposition seem to advance on our defence to easily. Gini is superb breaking forward but doesn’t appear to have the tenacity of a Cabaye or Tiote. Colback and Anita cover the ground and get stuck in but there is something that isn’t clicking.

  • 4 firebug666 // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:04 AM


    That’s exactly how I see it, and if their is no intent it is not a red card.

  • 5 Patoon // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Think ur spot on ther sparky, slow motion def makes it look worse

  • 6 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Surprising, he was commited to trapping the ball, Just timed it wrong.

    These slow mo’s make everything look alot worse than they really are.

    Clumbsy and accidental. I don’t think that warrants a red.

  • 7 Fatman_joe // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Definitely accidental. So hard to put your foot down on someone else’s foot when not looking.. even harder when that foot is moving! The other player made a real meal of it which didn’t help neither did mitrovic’s reputation. Wouldn’t have been surprised if arsene sent them out to get him sent off.

  • 8 BandB // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    I wouldn’t be surprised if every manager sends them out to get him sent off.

  • 9 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    Each their own. Shearer thinks it’s a red and I think it’s a yellow!

    …it seems the rules are up for interpretation!

    I would think now with this weekend’s red and yellow cards precedence had been set. Cards should be flying high from now on otherwise I would argue transparency has gone lost and players and clubs are not being treated equally!

  • 10 Fatman_joe // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    Sissoko’s mini stamp was worse coz there was intent and that only got a yellow. And other thing, had giroud or Walcott committed the same foul it would have been a yellow and all the pundits would have called it a clumsy strikers tackle.

  • 11 Slank // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    The refs need help.

    Amber cards.

  • 12 firebug666 // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:10 AM


    I would say clumbsy from the Arsenal player, Mitrovic is already committed and his leg is coming down as the Arsenal player sticks his leg in, Mitrovic had no where to go at that point.

  • 13 Bambams // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Big Al….Can’t believe he has turned to the ‘BBC Dark Side’…..

    Opinions make this game what it is.

    Give us a bit more time and I think this team will work. Still not sure about Sissoko at times, still think he could be much more influential in a game.

    It will come.

  • 14 Ron Knee // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    I thought we played better when we were down to ten men. We went into our new-look defensive shell and kept the opposition out. It was a lucky goal, after all. However, I don’t see this as a long-term solution!

  • 15 Bambams // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    I have certainly been impressed with Mbemba, what a signing he is. Looks like he has been here ages.

  • 16 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    How can he even say it’s over the top? Wasn’t as if he slid in being reckless. The lad is trying to trap the ball and is committed. It’s misjudged nothing more.

    Nahh, not having it.

  • 17 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    Don’t know if you were there Tuesday night – but I think you are spot on with opposition managers targeting Mitro to wind him up.
    On Tuesday night as soon as he came on Ryan Cresswell was in his face niggling, grabbing him

  • 18 lochinvar // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    slow down Ed , I can’t keep up !

    The FA have lost control of the game and the Refs reflect this.
    We’ve already seen the disastrous decision making of Refs gift Liverpool six points.
    Yesterday’s carnival of red cards across the Premiership and a variety of bad and inconsistent decisions is evident to all.
    In a previous game/incident ( I forget which one ) a decision was apparently changed by the Fourth Ref – what’s the ruling there then ? Was such an option used yesterday for the Red card decisions or is it a random process that might or might not be used depending which officials are officiating.

    Additionally we see the playground antics of the likes of the Chelsea and Arsenal players interrupting play and particularly in their own half getting away with it but destroying attacking breakouts nevertheless. Many of those fouls go unpunished and the Refs are not applying the rules fairly. The pundits should do some analysis on that – how many fouls that stop break out attacking play from a defences own half have seen yellow or red cards this season ?
    Then we had the so called Penalty claim by Arsenal yesterday – did the TV pundits analyse that then – because it’s quite clear that the Arsenal defender flicks his left foot backwards and sideways in a very deliberate move to simulate a trip. It’s the antics of professional cheats and wasn’t even remotely a natural move and Mariner saw it as that – but typically failed to give the Yellow card for a dive .
    Wenger last week wanted TMO decision making introduced but conveniently forgot that request this week as there were no Oscars available. However….he’s right and with all errors refs are making and the betting scams going on and opportunities to bet on “incidents” and when they take place you have to believe that the FA would move to introduce TMO technology immediately to get some fair decision making across all games then but that might upset FIFA . The stench is becoming unbearable.
    Rant over.

  • 19 Slank // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    Whilst refs will deny that they have preconceived views on the discipline of certain players before a game starts it is nevertheless only natural for them, as it is for all fans, to know who is likely to foul.

    In this respect Mitrovic has by his rash actions in his career in the Premiership alerted everyone that he is headstrong and is susceptible to rash challenges.

  • 20 Fatman_joe // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    I’ve been impressed with a lot of what we’ve been doing and much happier with the squad. But I was very fed up with the amount of times our boys kept trying to dribble past arsenal and losing it. Colback guilty at least twice and sissoko too. They all seemed to turn into Tiote yesterday.

  • 21 Ron Knee // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    What happened to Aarons yesterday? Is he injured?

  • 22 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Slank…I don’t agree we need amber cards!

    …we need clear rules and refs who can think as much as they can read!

    They need to be able to make a judgement call that doesn’t wreck the game (more than it has to)

    These days they are four officials and at times their decision-making is far worse than it was in the past.

  • 23 Rotonda heights // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    toonbrother // Aug 30, 2015 at 8:27 AM

    I dont blame him. We’d be better off playing MItrovic in defence instead of Colocinni
    Anyone would be better than Colo in Central defence.
    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

    Really think this guy (toonbrother) needs help. The most random subject and he somehow works it back to Colo!!

    The bigoted hate fixation is off the scale. As it happens Colo has just had 2 really good back to back games and still he gets grief.

    I’v never been a fan of saylor but I freely admit he was outstanding at Manu. To blindly hate, no matter what, is a very dangerous mindset to have.

    The trouble with Mitro is that every defender has his number now and know he’s not the brightest and very, very easy to wind up.

    13M is starting to look a lot for a seemingly overweight thug with more bookings than any goals yet. Thought the penny had dropped at Manu where he worked his socks off. Obviously not yet.

  • 24 firebug666 // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:22 AM

    Don’t know if anyone has seen this yet:

    The agent of Newcastle United striker Papiss Cisse has admitted that the Senegal international could still leave the club before the end of the transfer window.

    The 30-year-old has been linked with moves to clubs in China and the Arabian Gulf League, while Turkish side Galatasaray are also thought to be interested.

    Madou Diene told the Newcastle Chronicle: “If the right offer comes I will ask Papiss to consider it. Nobody wants to be at a club where you don’t feel wanted.

    “There has been no offer from Galarasaray yet, it is only talk in the media. But there has been nothing concrete. Perhaps if there was it would be considered because at Papiss’s age he wants to play regular football.

    “No matter which team he plays for he needs service because he will score goals. During him time at Newcastle, he’s never had proper service which makes his goal tally even more remarkable. As long as Papiss is here he will score goals. He can’t do that if he’s sitting on the bench.”

    Cisse, who still has 18 months remaining on his contract at St James’s Park, joined Newcastle from Freiburg in 2012.

  • 25 Ron Knee // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:22 AM

    Exactly. This is why we can’t keep possession – poor passing. And how many times do we fail to take any advantage from a throw-in?

  • 26 musomag // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    Regardless of it being red or yellow we had serious striker and CB problems before the transfer window opened and the situation remains unchanged…plus there’s increasing noise about a last minute exit for Cisse too, which would now be disastrous. Mitrovic is clearly a liability, hopefully he can wise-up. Austin was and still is the safest bet for us.

  • 27 Bambams // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    In the next twenty years we will have decisions made by the watching public via ‘Sky live Decisions’…

    You will be given five seconds to press either the red or yellow button on your Sky Remote control…

    Sorry fellas I am days off today and in one of those mischievous moods…

  • 28 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    lochinvar…I agree with alot of your points mate!

    …I hope at some point it gets enough for some and a complaint will be send to the EU!

  • 29 Fatman_joe // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    Ron. It’s painful; yesterday we had so throw in during an attack, went backwards and it ended up back with our defenders. But things are much improved from last season.

  • 30 Rotonda heights // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    i can’t stick marinner but i think a lot of people are maybe seeing it through back and white specs. if an arsenal player had done what nitro did we would have been screaming for a red.

    we were making an awful lot of reckless challenges all over the pitch and trying to kick them instead of playing football.

  • 31 BandB // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:29 AM


    I think this could become something of a theme unless steps are taken to address it, and only we can take those steps.
    Opposition managers and players will have already identified him as a bomb waiting to go off. Refs will no doubt have noticed and inwardly digested. The minute Marriner reached for his pocket I just knew it was going to be a straight red.
    The urge for managers and fans to defend their own player is visceral. But in the longer term, it would be better for the team if we didn’t encourage him to feel like the victim of a miscarriage of justice.
    The kid clearly sees red in the blink of an eye. He has that air of barely suppressed menace about him. If you were a landlord and he walked into your bar, you’d have your eye of him straight away. This is just how how life is.

  • 32 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Cisse should be away this window with the way we operate. Sell him while he is worth something to claw back some cash then put it towards Austin.

    We will get him cheaper than 15 mil the longer it goes down to the wire.

  • 33 Fatman_joe // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Band b, agreed for the most part but I genuinely don’t think he saw red. I think it was a genuine intention to control the ball. You could see his reaction afterwards was disbelief and not just footballer ‘who me?’ disbelief.

  • 34 Ron Knee // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    If they were replaced – big ‘if’ – I’d happily let Cissé, Tioté and Sissoko go!

  • 35 Rotonda heights // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    although the defense was heroic at manu and again yesterday with MBemba being superb, we seem to be even further away now to playing free flowing, passing and attacking football.

    yes it’s early days still but against swansea, manu and arsenal we have surrendered so much possession in every match. It has all been attritional, dreaded ”containment”, Soto game apart.

    Wijnaldum has struggled to make a real impact in this system and the less said about nitro the better. MBemba has been great and Thauvin obviously has a lot of promise.

    The only person who seems to consistently drive us forward at all is perez who was bizarrely dropped after the manu game. Hopefully he’ll come back in for the suspended Nitro..

  • 36 JDdubai // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:39 AM

    Mitro has no-one to blame but himself.

    His stupid foul vs Soton, could easily have been red.
    His dirty foul vs Swansea, could have been red.
    His tackle vs Arsenal, easily red or yellow but because of his previous actions yellows will generally become reds if there is any doubt now.

    Also 20yr old and has 6 red cards already in his career, he clearly has previous and knows when he is fouling and when not so dont know how people are so sure there was no intent.

    Anyway each to their own opinion, just sort his head out, get him to grow up and we have a player on our hands. Would still get another Cf in before tuesday though as i dont think Mitro can be trusted this season.

  • 37 BandB // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:40 AM


    I am not saying he saw red yesterday, in the sense of losing his rag. Yesterday was either a clumsy mistimed striker’s tackle or a calculated over the ball studs-up shinner.
    Either way, he likes to put himself about. He may not be a thug, and I am not saying he is, as I haven’t enough evidence one way or the other. But it won’t help him, in reality, that he looks a bit like one.

  • 38 murvar // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:45 AM

    It was a red card. Slo-Mo is neither here nor there. In the instant Mitro wanted to hurt the guy. We could do with Big Al hired as a consultant to show Mitro how to handle your self safely by controlling your aggression, then he can be an asset instead of a liability.

  • 39 Ron Knee // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:45 AM

    I’m puzzled by this. We tried to play good football against Soton. But what’s happened since? Perez’s omission was bizarre and where was Aarons?

  • 40 Fatman_joe // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    I was a bit ashamed of the whole team in that respect yesterday. I was with a forest fan yesterday who knows McLaren well from his derby/forest time and said he never set up his teams to play dirty.. So is it us? Terrible discipline last season which seems to have continued this season. I wonder whether the premier league reputation as being physical has meant our new boys are coming in a bit over zealous.

  • 41 Slank // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:47 AM


    The officials and players of Rugby, Tennis and Cricket thought differently and their games have benefited enormously and the results are less likely to be determined by errors made by officials.

    The football has changed. It is faster and referees need help. They eventually introduced goal line technology and now there are no issues. They need to come into the 21st century and embrace technology.

    Of the red cards issued in the Premiership on Saturday the majority of them were wrong.

  • 42 spitfire_ // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    The refs know what a nutjob is Mitrovic, and other yellow/red cards like this one are on the way. Mitrovic have a bad reputation, and this hardly will change.

  • 43 BandB // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:52 AM


    Just acknowledging your Aarons point as it as worth a jot of genuine speculation. They don’t always announce injuries these days. Maybe he was just rested, or had the sniffles or a dicky tummy, or he showed up late. Maybe it was a straight choice between him and Ober. In which case Ober seems to have the nod ahead of him at the moment.
    I think that’s all the speculation that falls short of a conspiracy theory covered.

  • 44 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    Slank…for it’s impossible to compare sports such as football, Cricket and Tennis. They have nothing in common.

    You could just as well argue you want Amber cards in water polo!

    As for Rugby and Football the main issue I have is one of them is a contact sport and the other isn’t.

  • 45 JamesToon // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    Slank made a good point from the last post about something not clicking with our midfield and attack.

    Mitro rarely had support and there was rarely anyone attacking the box, I personally feel we need to give SDJ a start against West Ham, we need more intelligence and more of a link in attack, I think SDJ can provide that. Play Pérez and Thauvin either side of him and Gini and Anita/Colback holding.

  • 46 Slank // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:58 AM


    It’s like Cattermole of Sunderland and Charlie Austin of Stoke (and I’m sure people can name many others). You can put your money on them being booked or sent off.

    The smartest move McClaren made yesterday was not sending on Tiote as under the atmosphere of the game it’s almost certain he would have ended up in the refs bad book or joined Mitrovic in the bath.

  • 47 BandB // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    I nearly fainted when I saw Tiote warming up.

  • 48 danf98 // Aug 30, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    What is it that Toonbrother really has against Colo? Did Colo take his song literally and have a go on your wife? Is that what it is?

  • 49 JamesToon // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:00 AM

    Feel though that there is technology needed in the game to replace refs. Refs decisions are always going to be unreliable and that’s why we need something that’s going to be 100% accurate in making the right decisions

  • 50 Ron Knee // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    I wasn’t (necessarily) launching a conspiracy theory! Let’s hope it was just a minor ailment. We need him fit!

  • 51 Slank // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    James @ 45

    Perhaps we don’t need two wingers.

    Perhaps we should play Perez (or Cisse) alongside Thauvin with De Jong between them and Gini.

  • 52 BandB // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:02 AM

    My money’s on man flu.

  • 53 Ron Knee // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:05 AM

    Better dial 999 in that case!

  • 54 corkypants // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:05 AM

    This is the first time i have had to comment on the game this weekend.

    Firstly i thought given how early in the game it was and how quick the actual part of play was a yellow card would of been the best coarse of action, mitro had no time to think or adjust any body position.

    Secondly Andre Mariner was absolute garbage, he gave every 50/50 arsenals way and never let the game flow he was shite my dad always told me he was a top four whore and he gives decisions based on league positions he is gutless and needs putting back in lower league football for a few weeks.

    It was a good performance with the odds stacked against us, great team work and cohesion at the back if we can manage to keep 11 on the pitch in our next games we will see some results im positive!!!!

  • 55 Slank // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    danf98 @ 48

    Maybe Toonbrother is bald and feels weak and feeble when he sees Colo’s mop !

    Or maybe he tried to solicit Colo once and Colo told where to go.

    Or maybe he wasn’t invited to Colo’s BBQ.

  • 56 thevoiceofreason // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:08 AM

    Perhaps Alan could give him some lessons on how to stamp on players and get away with it aka Neil Lennon 🙂

    Not a red… Standing foot planted looking at the ball.

  • 57 gaz 44 // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    I think toonbrother once sang the collo I’ll let you s••g my wife song and collo did

  • 58 Slank // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:10 AM


    ‘’s impossible to compare sports such as football, Cricket and Tennis. They have nothing in common’


  • 59 The overrated Frenchman // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:11 AM

    If it was a red card offence, according to the letter of the law, so be it. Fair enough, we have to cop it. The question is, do the referees and their apologists (for want of a better word) have the courage of their convictions to apply those standards without fear or favour? Are they going to make that same call knowing that a Chosen One, or a Wenger, or any serving Manchester manager will be all over the media, pouring scorn on their head? Of course, that’s a rhetorical question…we know the answer.

  • 60 BandB // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:15 AM

    We can argue until the cows come home about whether it should of been a red.
    It was given as a red. Look in the scorebook.
    And they will be given as reds more often than not against him unless we manage his frustrations.
    He’s 20, in a new country, a new job and finds himself wrestling two and three onto one on the rare occasions he sees the ball.
    I imagine he IS feeling a bit chippy.

  • 61 corkypants // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:17 AM

    rumour has coloccini finger blasted toon brothers daughter in toon brothers bed!!!!!

  • 62 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:18 AM

    Slank…I rest my case mate!

    It’s not the first time the decision making of the refs in the PL are being called in to question. They are poor and sadly though those above with the power keeps defending them.

    If there at least were some consistency it would be another ball game (that’s for you Slank 😉 )

  • 63 switch365 // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:19 AM

    Anyone else think Mbemba could quite possibly fill the role we so desperate to fill?
    He is our best defender, but he also carries the ball extremely well with pace.
    In the old days, Mbemba would be a shoo-in as a sweeper

  • 64 Ron Knee // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:22 AM

    I don’t think we’re a dirty team. We don’t set out to foul systematically. Our fouls are more the result of frustration at not being able to keep possession.

  • 65 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:24 AM

    The overrated Frenchman…that’s way I call for transparency and equality!

  • 66 The overrated Frenchman // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:24 AM

    True enough Band B, but I think we are entitled to expect a level of professionalism from referees which encompasses neutrality. By that I mean a player’s reputation should be irrelevant to any individual incident. For Mitrovic to be a “marked man” by referees after a handful of games is outrageous.

  • 67 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:25 AM

    Ron…haha 😀 then we are going to get alot of cards this season mate;

    …have you seen our possession?

  • 68 Slank // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:25 AM


    ‘It’s not the first time the decision making of the refs in the PL are being called in to question. ‘

    And it wont be the last and the authorities will do nothing.

    Football is probably the most backward sport in terms of adopting technology to either solve a human problem or provide assistance to those who have to officiate the game.

  • 69 BandB // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:27 AM


    Our indiscipline has always the result of frustration at being outplayed.
    Sissoko, Janmaat, Mitrovic will always be bankers for a card if they find themselves chasing shadows, as Tiote and Cabaye were.
    Hopefully our crack new coaching team will be able to address both the lack of possession and control, and the indiscipline that arises from it.

  • 70 toon kk // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:28 AM

    Tbh we’re working much harder as a defensive unit because we have to. But imo we lack power and real pace going forward also the rare occasion we get in the oppersisions box we still don’t get enough players forward and miss that cutting edge.
    As for Mitrovic he needs to settle down, imo the club should have used the money on a more experienced player not someone for the future.

  • 71 Ron Knee // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:28 AM

    You mean all 25% of it!

  • 72 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:28 AM

    Slank…I don’t believe as you might have realized that the problem of the game is lack of technology!

  • 73 ronaldo aarons // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:30 AM

    I really don’t see it as a red. If you repeatedly look at in slow motion then yes but in real time these type of tackles are common in high pace and competitive games of football. I don’t think a lot of people are considering the fact that the ball dropped down from high up so it would be very difficult to try and control the ball with your studs facing down. These types of tackles happen often to me and I’ve been guilty myself, it happens in football. If anything, Sissoko should have been sent off and not mitrovich. Motd was as usual a pile of bs. Every time we play arsenal they always try to get us sent off by falling too ground very easily rolling around, they do this to us more than any other team for some reason. This type of simulation is worse than late and mistimed tackles in my eyes. Keown is a fool too, a biased one at that. He said chelsea shouldn’t have got a penalty on zouma as he wasn’t going to get the ball even though it was a fluke in the box. Then says Leicester should have got one on Vardy when when he beat a player to the ball but knocked it so far away from goal that he wouldn’t have got and as sprinting away from goal him self. Joke like the majority of pundits on motd.

  • 74 Ron Knee // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    It can’t happen fast enough. I think we’re already relegation fodder – but then I’ve never been a cheery optimist!

  • 75 toon kk // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:36 AM

    Refs will be keeping a close eye on Mitrovic, there’s no getting away from he’s a dirty player, who needs to calm doon. Whether it was a red or not is a matter of opinion, but he shouldn’t be fouling the way he does there’s no need for it.

  • 76 JackButler // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:37 AM

    I know he’s young but Mitrovic has to show more sense on the pitch, one red yesterday and lucky to stay on the pitch at Swansea he seems to be trying to prove he’s a tough guy who can stand up for himself in this league but he needs to use his brain and fight in the right way

  • 77 Rotonda heights // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:38 AM

    over rated

    the guy was sent off 5 times before coming here and he’s only 20. If that doesn’t make you a marked man what does.

    Good to know that the club does diligent checks on players’ suitability and if they are a good character!!

  • 78 The overrated Frenchman // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:40 AM

    I’d like to see a match up between Mitrovic and Norman Hunter in his prime. That would be worth watching and all.

  • 79 Rotonda heights // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:40 AM


    Kind of thinking he’s not the brightest.

  • 80 ronaldo aarons // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:40 AM

    Ron knee
    Why are we relegation fodder?
    We’ve had four tough games and when the season started I thought we wouldn’t even have a point. We’ve had the toughest start in the league. Two matches we had players sent off in the second half. Two matches against man utd and arsenal. You can’t expect us to just start dominating teams possession wise because we got a new coach and team over the summer. Though we did have more possession than Southampton. This type of transition takes time. I think we’ve shown enough to challenge mid table at least and with a little bit more luck throughout the season we might be able to finish top 10. As for mcclaren saying to judge him after twelve games, I’m giving him the season unless he becomes like carver.

  • 81 geniusofthelamps // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:41 AM

    agree mitro was simply trying to control a ball that he had chested down so it was effectively in his possession and therefore he is entitled to try and control it. arsenal player just quicker to it and therefore he misses the ball. don’t think anita and colback is working at all from an attacking perspective. one holding MF is fine but not 2.
    I would play colback and sissoko in the middle or even gouf after tge performance the other day. we just arent controlling possession in games and relying on catching teams on the break. needs ro change otherwise we arent going to score many this season.

  • 82 scout // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:41 AM

    He stood on his foot. No way was that a red card. Shearer can’t talk with his flying elbows imo.

  • 83 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:42 AM

    Lol has Craig Burley got a problem with the Toon?


  • 84 scout // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:42 AM

    People saying we are gonna get relegated. Oh my god. Have you even watched the games. If I made a comment like that I would be ashamed of myself. Embarrassing.

  • 85 Rotonda heights // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:44 AM

    i think i was more angry becaue it was so early, even worse than janmatt who then gives us no chance against top passing teams.

    if it had been the last 5 mins then not so bad but it basically killed the game I had really been looking forward to from the start.

    That said, the way arsenal pass and move it seemed like they had 12 when we still had 11

  • 86 ronaldo aarons // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:46 AM

    Toon kk
    I’m not saying he’s not a marked man or if he is a dirty player or not, I was just commenting on the tackle yesterday. But he has shown he can be disciplined in a game e.g man utd game,

  • 87 JackButler // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:46 AM

    Rotonda heights

    Maybe mate, but if you listen to his interviews he talks about standing up for himself and if players kick him he’s going to kick them back I think he’s simply trying to prove h’s tough enough for this league but he’s going about it in the wrong way and as a result he’s painted a massive target on his back for both players and refs to take shots at him.

    SM has a job on his hands reigning him in while keeping his natural game intact but the record of the entire squad is abysmal over the past six to eight months so Mitrovic is one of a few fire SM has to contend with right now.

  • 88 Rotonda heights // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:46 AM


    don’t think we will get relegated but we do need to get an identity for the way we want to play. Under pardew we never had that and apparently we still don’t.

    We have to play to the new guys strengths and so far it’s not happening.

  • 89 OneAlanShearer // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    “@GFN_France: Nicolas N’Koulou is on the market, according to L’Équipe”

    Yes please mike get your cheque book out…available centre back.

    Get austin while you are at it.

  • 90 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    We were half a yard behind Arsenal and so we were committing fouls all over the park. Mitrovic was even further off the pace and his tackle was woeful. One pair of black and white specs even reckons Thauvin’s tackle wasn’t a penalty.

    My major worry is that I don’t get Mitrovic’s game. I agree with Cisse’s agent that we don’t play to his strengths. I wouldn’t know what Mitrovic’s strengths are, never mind how to play to them. For a big man, his hold up play isn’t that good. And he’s so slow and lumbering. Shearer wasn’t quick, but Mitrovic makes him look like Usain Bolt. From what I’ve seen so far, he’s not a tenth of the player Shearer was.

  • 91 ronaldo aarons // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    Yeah lol, tell shearer to have a word with Neil Lennon.

  • 92 ronaldo aarons // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:53 AM

    Mitrovich is 20 and we signed shearer when he was about 26/27. So basically at 20 shearer had just broken in to the first team at Southampton and would be moving to Blackburn in two years time. I don’t know about you but I don’t like to compare current 20 year olds, new to the league that has only had two starts v man utd and arsenal against someone like alan shearer during his time with us.

  • 93 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:54 AM

    We are starting from scratch this season doing more of the basics and learning to defend as a team, considering we were a team that just rolled over time and time again we are starting to become one big unit not individuals. Anita and colback are to similar and light weight it would be better to have power next to one of them like sissoko, they win the ball give it to sissoko to start the attack it has to be worth a shot.

  • 94 Ron Knee // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:55 AM

    True, we’ve had tough games. But after yesterday with a meagre 25% possession, where do you realistically see our first three points coming from?

  • 95 ronaldo aarons // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:56 AM

    I think it’s coming, it’s hard to implement an identity in four games against tough opposition. Some players don’t know each other’s games yet. Mcclaren doesn’t even known his best team yet and I’m pretty sure most fans don’t either. Give it time.

  • 96 Essex Geordie Bill // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:58 AM

    I only watched the MOTD highlights but I got the impression that our lot are competing to see who can get the most yellow and red cards. From what I saw the ref was very lenient with some of the fouls and tackles from our players.

    One thing is certain, if we keep playing matches with ten players for most of our games then we aint gonna get much from them.

    Defence still seems to be our Achilles heel.

    Unless we get a win soon then the season is going to be one hell of a struggle.

    Neither Mitrovic or Thauvin looked like EPL players.

    Can anyone who was at the match give me something to be optimistic about.

  • 97 JackButler // Aug 30, 2015 at 11:59 AM


    I like Anita in that role but he needs someone alongside him with more bite to his game, Coldback works hard but never imposes himself enough imo and with that formation you need a ball winner and ball player we have one but not the other so the whole thing can easily break down

  • 98 ronaldo aarons // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:02 PM

    Ron knee
    Well we have two winnable games v west ham and Watford coming up. Winnable but tough, west ham being inconsistent and Watford struggling for goals. Before two more tough games, after though we have a good run of fixtures. No point giving possession stats, we had 10 men for pretty much the full game. Liverpool had 11 men yet only had 34 percent possession v arsenal, stats are misleading.

  • 99 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:02 PM


    I think sissoko is wasted on the wing he can win headers and we need that in the middle we need pace down the wing which we lack. Sissoko can break play up and turn it into attack and with gini in front of him they would link up well with anita/colback just sitting back.

  • 100 ronaldo aarons // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:04 PM

    Essex Geordie
    How do mitrovich and thauvin not look like premier league players? I’m curious how you came to that conclusion already in their early newcastle careers.

  • 101 ronjohno // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:04 PM

    Pleased people reminding Shearer how he nearly sent Lennons head into Barrack Road – and then threatened not to play for England if the FA tried to do anything about it.
    Fork tongue.

    Arsenal were outplaying us even before the sending off.

  • 102 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:04 PM

    Was nice to see us have ago yesterday even with 10 men theres no way last season we would of made them subs we would of just sat back abd fell to bits.

  • 103 Rotonda heights // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:04 PM


    actually think our defence has been great v manu and arsenal

  • 104 JackButler // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:05 PM


    Agree mate, I’d shift Sissoko in alongside Anita and have Perez and Thauvin down the flanks with Gini in the middle

  • 105 Rotonda heights // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:05 PM


    think i missed that. don’t think we even had one shot at goal

  • 106 Rotonda heights // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:06 PM

    JB at 104


  • 107 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:07 PM

    Jb with that line up we could play 4-1-4-1 gini and sissoko could take turns dropping back, but we defend as a team so us there any point playing 4-2-3-1 if we defend as a team???

  • 108 JackButler // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:07 PM


    You want something to be optimistic about?

    The last two games we’ve been dominated in terms of possession but have only conceded a deflected goal, last season we’d have conceded close to double figures imo.

    Baby steps, but we are moving in the right direction

  • 109 SPRINGY // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:09 PM

    i dont have the same opinion as some on here that we’ll relegation contenders…imo theres already improvement in the defence….or should i say team..we’ve drew with man utd and southampton away and home respectively which we lost last season and lost to arsenal at home but with ten men and conceded less goals in them games…yes we drew at swansea last season but we were down to ten men this season…so i dont think its that bad tbh…its early days and the team needs time to gel and macca and his staff need time to work….and if the players are not good enough they’ll be on there way in the transfer windows…..theres no guarantee we’ll get better but im optimistic from what i’ve seen so far considering the fixtures and despite results

  • 110 JackButler // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:10 PM


    I think SM is still learning whose capable of what and where best to play them but we are close to being settled, just a few small alterations and we should be able to tie a solid defensive showing up with the midfield and striker

  • 111 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:10 PM

    Sissoko had one wide in first half, are final ball was poor and we seemed a little lost when we got around the box, we could of put plenty of balls in the box early but never and play got broke up, janmaat put the best ball in near the end and it looked like gini was going to nod home but an arsenal head just appeared to clear.

  • 112 Ron Knee // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:10 PM

    Suppose we get nothing from the next two matches, where will team morale be? Then, as you say, we have two tough games after that. I really hope you’re right and things start to jell, but I’m not holding my breath!

  • 113 WWSBRD // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:13 PM

    U can tell u only saw the MOTD highlights if ur so quick to judge Thauvin mate. Id also say Mitrovic did pretty well against Man Utd

    Not sure the defense is our Achilles heel either considering yesterday

  • 114 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:14 PM


    Its going to take time we do have a good run of games coming we will click soon and everything will fall into place, we are taking small steps and we are looking better from it, we were so far behind last couple of seasons we are trying to catch up people need to take a step back and look at the positives in the last couple of games.

  • 115 ronaldo aarons // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:16 PM

    Ron knee
    That’s all ifs and buts. I’m not thinking negatively unlike last season, I think we can win them two games.

  • 116 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:18 PM

    You don’t compate Mitrovic to Shearer because of the age difference. So are you saying Mitrovic is not ready at 20? How do you assess Mitrovic? How does he get his goals? What are his talents? What are we banking on? Or is it one big gamble? Or do you have no more idea about Mitrovic than I do, or the rest of the blog does, as far as I can tell?

  • 117 JackButler // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:19 PM


    Agree mate, after a very tough run of games our back four has improved beyond measure from the past few season, God even Colo is looking good right now.mee look sharp on the counter but now we need to see the back four and midfield tied in.

    For me Perez has to start as his work rate and attacking play causes so many problems for the opposition it’s a waste having him on the bench.

    As you say, baby steps in order to make up the ground we’ve lost over the years and we are moving forward, all SM needs now is time

  • 118 SPRINGY // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:19 PM

    just got to take each game as it comes…
    .southhampton played decent but slack defencely
    swansea played woeful defence even worse
    man utd played ok even tho we didnt have much of the ball.. but defence was strong and much improve from 1st two games
    arsenal played ok considering the sending off and defence was strong and took a deflection for them to score

    we still may have games where the defence is woeful again but we might be better going forward…its about balancing it out and that will take time to do that

  • 119 Essex Geordie Bill // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:23 PM

    Thank you for the replies I’ve had, it sounds like a lot of you are still positive with half full glasses.

    I agree that the season is still young and that it’s a bit early to start criticising down the players too heavily.

    What I’ve seen so far isn’t filling me with confidence however.

    And as I said along with many others unless we get some wins soon then we could get into a losing mentality. Steve now has two weeks to prepare for W Ham and that is going to be another toughie.

  • 120 sparky55 // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:24 PM

    B&B @ 69…most sensible post of the day that one.

    We were the home team and they were all over us before Mitrovic got sent off and we couldn’t get anywhere near the ball.

    If they’d have had a centre forward they’d have stuffed us by miles just like man U should have.

    We’re being being dominated possession wise and that’s the problem at the minute…we’re not gelling yet in the middle and no link between midfield and attack…SDJ should be given a change IMO…we need intelligence not brute force.

  • 121 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:27 PM

    Thauvin has been here a few days and I’ve given him man of the match twice. You can tell what type of player he is and what he can give you. With Mitrovic, I can’t believe what I’m seeing. Slow, lumbering and poor hold up. He’s had one very good header. But you don’t get too many goals from headers. I’m just not seeing it.

  • 122 Ron Knee // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:28 PM

    I’m impressed with our defensive hedgehog and fighting spirit. Much better than last season. It’s the lack of co-ordination between midfield and attack that’s worrying.

  • 123 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:29 PM


    Agree on perez hes imo our best player he offers so much and hes very good with his feet and he can run all day would be great down the right or left.

    SM will get time in 4 games we have noticed a difference and we are getting a team that tries things can only get better.

  • 124 SPRINGY // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:29 PM

    essex bill
    might be a bit hard to prepare if we have players away on international duties so im not getting my hopes up to high against west ham away we lost there last year and i think they are better now then last year….like i said tho one game at a time

  • 125 ronaldo aarons // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:31 PM

    Not necessarily age difference but you can’t compare mitrovich to shearer when he was with us. One is still a young player learning while shearer was in his prime until he retired with us. You cannot compare these two players yet. I don’t know where you get this idea that I know more about mitrovic than you (or the blog??) I do know that at 20 shearer was not yet proven to be ready but was given a few years at Southampton to prove himself before going to Blackburn. Can mitrovich not be given the same timeframe to prove himself? Rather than 2 starts and 2 sub appearances.

  • 126 Ron Knee // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:33 PM

    It’s an unforgiving league. Can we count on another miracle run of games (was it five or six wins?) that saved our bacon last season?

  • 127 SPRINGY // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:34 PM

    ron knee
    i do think we may need to bring in another cm in place of colback or anita to help link the play but its only for games in and had ten players for almost all of both of them and all of them are were top six challengers last year and two in champions league

  • 128 SPRINGY // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:35 PM

    ron knee
    its only four games in….ooops#

  • 129 Ron Knee // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:37 PM

    Fingers crossed for more signings before the window closes.

  • 130 Newcastle for alltid // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:38 PM

    We played pretty well yester day, considering how the game unfolded. It`s a shame to have a player sent off that early, as it ruins the whole game.

    The red card can probably be defended, even though I think it was an accident. And as it happened so early in the game, the ref should show some leniency and give a yellow card instead. Way worse things can happen on a football field.

    The lesson to be learned from all the cards yesterday is that the players shouldn`t rush into tackles against such a possession-oriented side as Arsenal. Their ball-control is excellent, and you won`t win the ball by making risky tackles.

    I`m more or less just waiting for us to play a full game with 11 players against a side we are more or less equal to. That is when we`ll see how we stand, even though we have defended well these last two games.

  • 131 ronaldo aarons // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:38 PM

    And blackley, I’m off now but you are definitely entitled to your opinion, if you haven’t seen anything from him in your eyes then that’s fair enough. Me personally, I would rather give him more than 2 starts v title challengers before judging him. Especially when we haven’t had a lot of the ball or created him many chances. For each person that doesn’t see anything in him, others might. I’m not saying it’s harsh to write him off already and compare him to alan shearer when he was with us. You chose shearer, not me btw so keep that in mind.

  • 132 SPRINGY // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:39 PM

    ron knee
    im confident we’ll get better….if we’d had easier teams to start the season we might of got better results but its all ifs and buts….there should be teams where we can have more of the ball confidence will grow going forward

  • 133 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:40 PM

    You seem to be defending Mitrovic against my criticism. I’m comparing his attributes to Shearer’s regardless of age. Mitrovic is a big money signing that many on the blog were crying out for. Now he’s here, I can’t see what the fuss was sbout and no ine csn tell me anything about him. Just going on what I’ve seen, I know lads on a Sunday morning who could make just as good an impression of a premier league gootballer as Mitrovic has done. It’s very worrying. I said Austin was the priority even after signing Mitrovic and I stick by that.

  • 134 ronaldo aarons // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:41 PM

    I’m saying it’s harsh to write him off above.
    Not “I’m not saying it’s harsh…”

  • 135 ronaldo aarons // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:47 PM

    I’m not defending him lol, I keep repeating it’s harsh to write him off because of 2 starts and 2 sub appearances. There’s a difference. Especially against tough opposition where we have had little of the ball and created little. What don’t you get with what I’m saying?? How can he show his attributes when we have had to defend for the majority of the games.

  • 136 ronaldo aarons // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:52 PM

    Again I do have to go so I won’t be able to reply to you until later if I decide to look for your reply. Think we should leave it at that, it’s your choice if you want to dismiss a player already it’s not what I personally would do but everyone’s different and sees things differently which I’m cool with.

  • 137 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:53 PM

    I’m not writing him off. Don’t get me wrong. I’m just asking the blog what I’m missing. My initial impression is that Riviere is much better than this kid, who looks slow, heavy, lumbering and with poor technical ability. I wouldn’t be surprised if Cisse is getting peed off when this bloke is ahead of him. I seem yo recall loads of fuss on the blog about the need to get Mitrovic over the line. Can someone tell me how good he is?

  • 138 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 30, 2015 at 12:59 PM

    I see some bloggers sayin this lone striker system is not working. I must say if you decide to play 442 against arsenal, the game/result would have been 10 times worse, even if we had 11 men the full game. Arsenal dominated possession, mainly from a 5 man midfield, imagine if we had 4 in midfield.

    I seriously think SM should consider a 352 formation. He already makes his wingers track back, I think it would do us well.

  • 139 TheToonKing // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:03 PM

    Austin can’t Mitro’s laces when Mitro is on his game. He just needs to get used to everything.

  • 140 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:03 PM


    I double that…

    I think that would be very interesting…

    have wingers tracking back one CM could act as CAM…..perfect.

    3 going forward could morph into 6 line defence. Italian way.

  • 141 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:07 PM

    At last, someone who can tell me what Mitrovic is like when he’s on his game and why Graham Carr likes him so much. I take it you agree that so far he’s been slow, lumbering, off the pace, technically poor, and hot headed?

  • 142 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:09 PM

    I think we need to get that message to SM some how. 3 men goin forward, everytime mitrovic holds the ball up, wingers will join the attack, two midfielders lurking for loose balls. I think it would work much better than 4231. We should have the players for it

  • 143 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:11 PM

    The real Mitrovic, the reason we paid big bucks, is becomong the blog’s best kept secret. Ed, time for an article on this one.

  • 144 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:16 PM

    The biggest mystery at NUFC since Andy Cole went missing.

  • 145 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:19 PM

    I reckon we need TheGoogleKing to answer this one. Come on JIB. Do your stuff. Why did we sign Mitrovic? What can we expect to see when he gets used to things?

  • 146 TheToonKing // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:23 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie
    I agree that we have yet to seem him at his best.

    But I don’t agree that he’s been slow or technically poor. Look at him against ManUtd. Few great moments of what he can do. Had one chance and his hit the bar, brushed Rooney off the ball and made a great run.

    His off the pace, yes, as most players coming to the premier league from other leagues, especially inferior ones like the belgian league.

    He just needs to get used to the pace, rules, tempo etc.

    If you have Periscope, watch the training sessions, it’s clearly what Mclaren thinks as well, having them do quick, one touch passing drills often.

    Let’s wait and see him once he has had some time to settle, against teams where we actually have the ball a bit.

    On his day Mitro can bully and destroy the best of defenders.

  • 147 FollowFollow // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:24 PM

    Let me join the clamour to be shown the light regarding Mitro. So far I’m thinking the poor man’s Billy Whitehurst.

  • 148 TheToonKing // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:25 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie glad you prooved your character with insults, nice one.

    You want to write off one of the highest rated young strikers in europe after 2 games, be my guest, no one cares.

  • 149 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:29 PM

    Mitrovic is not that bad or hot headed. He just fights for every ball. He’s young & doesn’t realise sometimes your better off not even putting a foot in. He’s putting a foot in regardless if he’s goin to win the ball or not

  • 150 SPRINGY // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:29 PM

    352 is worth a look at….not a fan of 4231 but everybody plays that way nowadays

  • 151 Essex Geordie Bill // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:29 PM

    At the risk of ruffling a few feathers, I wish we could have got Andy Carroll back even we couldn’t get a full season from him.

    I really hope that we still have a gem in Mitrovic but he hasn’t looked the part so far. Time to get Arma back?

  • 152 FollowFollow // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:30 PM

    Thank you ToonKing. “On his day Mitro can bully and destroy the best of defenders.” Looks like the poor man’s Billy Whitehurst is our highest aspiration for him.

  • 153 WestOzMag // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:33 PM

    Sick of this 1 up front junk. Were not creative enough to play 1 up front. 2 st’s for every home game is a must or im wasting 90min everytime watching

  • 154 dannitoon // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:33 PM

    2 points from 4 games where last season we got 1… I see improvement. … defence is looking better, anita looking like the player he was at Ajax. We just need the rub of the green and 11 players o the pitch.. Thauvin looks a good player but to get the best out of Mitro we need SDJ on the pitch. . Someone he can knock it down to. . We are too slow in supporting when it’s fired up go him…

  • 155 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:35 PM

    What insults? Please explain.

    I’m not writing him off. I’m asking others who know him to enlighten the likes of me who don’t. As for bullying people, that sounds worrying. I’d rather see a striker beat someone with skill like Beardsley or by just getting in the right area, like Cisse.

  • 156 TheToonKing // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:35 PM

    If you can find them, watch a few Serbia games from the U19 championship in 2013, when he was named Player of the tournamemt. Although he was really raw back then, still is, you’ll see what he can do. He’s not Aguero, but far from being a limbering non-technical hot heat either…..well…except the hot head part.

  • 157 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:37 PM

    Billy Whitehurst is what he looks like. And that’s who I compared him to the other day.

  • 158 scout // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:37 PM

    4 games in and complete panic. Its pretty sad to see. Well be alright

  • 159 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:41 PM

    All of these ppl who are writing off mitrovic, will be quick to jump on the band wagon when he gets to his best form & in his stride.

  • 160 Essex Geordie Bill // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:41 PM

    I remember a former player of ours who ended up at Sunderland, Robson? who turned into a real beast on the field but it worked for him.

    Aggression is good but it has to be more Diego like, not (totally) out of control, hopefully Mitrovic will learn from his mistakes otherwise he will turn out to be another wasted high costing mistake.

  • 161 WWSBRD // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:41 PM

    Alright as in we will avoid relegation?

  • 162 TheToonKing // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:45 PM

    Also, I don’t really understand all this talk about agression. His a big, passionate lad, who like to put himself about. I’ve not seen anything malicious from him so far. Clumsy, yes.

    This game is getting to soft imo. I would hate to be an Arsenal supporter and watching those manlets fall left and right at the slightest breeze.

  • 163 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:45 PM

    He reminds me of Billy Whitehurst. Which player does he most resemble to you? I’m struggling to think of any modern day, top flight player? But I don’t know what he’s like at his best. Is he going to be a Justin Fashanu signing (Norwich to Forest)?

  • 164 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:46 PM

    What insults?

  • 165 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:48 PM

    Who’s writing him off?

  • 166 Essex Geordie Bill // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:48 PM

    Although I don’t think refs were so quick to produce the red and yellows cards in his days.

    Leeds would probably have ended up with only half a team on the pitch if they had the same team playing now!!

  • 167 FollowFollow // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:49 PM

    The clearest thing about Mitro so far is that we will destroy him, like so many before, if we make him first choice before he is ready. We’re already well down the line to doing that. So far he should not have been on the pitch, just watching and training.

  • 168 WWSBRD // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:53 PM

    Attempted stamp on Neil Taylor?

  • 169 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:54 PM

    Duncan Ferguson or Joe Jordan?

  • 170 Essex Geordie Bill // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:56 PM

    And backtracking on a lot of my previous comments a striker is only as good as the service he gets from his fellow players and Mitrovic hasn’t been given that luxury so far.

    He possibly has been slung into the deep end to quickly.

  • 171 Rotonda heights // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:57 PM

    shadow at 159

    isn’t that the way of the world.

  • 172 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:57 PM

    Blackley half of the ppl of this blog are written him off. Read the comments about him

  • 173 toonbrother // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:57 PM

    colo’s own goal yesterday was superb though -i’ll give him that much
    subtle back heel a la ayoze perez from last season
    shame it was the wrong net

  • 174 toonbrother // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:58 PM

    All that clown had to do was stand tall and strong
    And we would have escaped with a 0-0
    but that was too much to ask
    anyway 4 games down
    1 to go and I toonbrother will be proven right once again
    £100 to my charity of choice.
    Every cloud has a silver lining as they say

  • 175 TheToonKing // Aug 30, 2015 at 1:59 PM

    WWSBRD. Come on….attempted…

    I’m furious with refs after yesterday, bunch of games with useless and harsh red cardw, they are destroying the game.

  • 176 toonbrother // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:00 PM

  • 177 Ron Knee // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:01 PM

    Norwich down to ten men.

  • 178 WWSBRD // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:04 PM

    He tried to stamp on Neil Taylor and missed, u said u have seen nothing malicious in his game yet…not sure how him aiming to stamp on another player goes with that theory

    In terms of the red card thats just opinions, seems pretty 50/50 after endless replays and the ref sees it once then has to make a decision

  • 179 cyprus // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:04 PM

    Fair comments from Alan. Thought he was going to do a Keown. Because Alan used to bully people around him himself big time.

    So Norwich a red too. 6 reds up to now in the PL.

  • 180 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:04 PM

    Although I agree that is the way of the world, we should be real true fans. When the best of mitrovic comes out il be sayin I always believed.

    Same way I kept sayin to my chelsea fan mate, I kept sayin we will beat uz, he said plenty of times im dreaming & he will have the last laugh, but he found himself surprised a few times

  • 181 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:06 PM

    I hope the half of the blog who are writing him off is not the same half who were desperate to get him over the line.

  • 182 cyprus // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:07 PM

    TBH, Norwich mostly was doing an NUFC. Backs to the wall, resolute defending. In fact, you need not watch this game. It’s an exact replica of yesterday. Norwich will heroically defend, then concede one. Game over.

    Steady the ship Steve, ok. But after that, attack, attack.

  • 183 TheToonKing // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:10 PM

    I hope the FA has a meeting with refs. 6 red cards over the weekend ?! And we haven’t even had all the games yet. Ref’s had a decisive influence in most games.

    Mitro -wad not a red.
    Affelay -not red or red to both.
    Coutinho -wasn’t a yellow.

  • 184 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:12 PM

    What insults? If there weren’t any, just say so.

  • 185 toonbrother // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:12 PM

    What people refuse to acknowledge is the fact Arsenal are going through a striker crises right now.

    Walcott had at least 2 one on ones yesterday
    Both times he EASILY got behind colo his marker with simple 1-2 give and go passing moves

    Had he scored either of those goals the mood around here wouldve been totally different

  • 186 cyprus // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:13 PM

    Maybe these reds are the new rules. But I’m concerned they won’t apply to all teams the same. If so, then ok.

    I can bet that if that were Rooney he would’ve been cautioned, verbally, at worst a yellow.

  • 187 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:15 PM

    Mitrovic challenge was worthy of a second yellow, not a straight red. Especially so early on in the game, referee should have used common sense, but he was to busy been arsenals 12th man.

  • 188 welshgeordie9 // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:17 PM

    Anybody on here think we will sign a forward before the window shuts, Austin perhaps, only cisse have scored this season and that was only a tap in.

  • 189 toonbrother // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:17 PM

    I find it quite amazing and alarming how undiscerning we are as fans
    We love to DELUDE ourselves into thinking everything is fine when it clearly isnt
    0 wins in 4 matches
    Bottom 3 ALREADY
    Crytal palace has had a tougher fixture list & start to the season and they are top of the league
    The secret to a successful team is a sound defence
    We are DESTINED to fail if we fail to deal with the poison in our defence
    We’ve replaced everyone in defence but the main culprit himself Colocinni
    Excise Colo BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!!!

  • 190 Essex Geordie Bill // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:17 PM

    I don’t think anyone is really writing him off.

    But a lot of the older fans (and younger even) have seen too many shiny new players who have bombed and are desperately not wanted a repeat of this happening again.

    We all know the players I’m thinking of.

    To be honest however I thought Shearer was a bad signing at the time and was very happy to be proved wrong. By the same criteria I was delighted at the signing of Owen. nuff said.

  • 191 cyprus // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:17 PM

    I admire your steadfastness, it’s almost scary. But is that guy really all that’s wrong with this team? He seems to try, has the skills, blocks many goals, is he really that bad?

  • 192 JackButler // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:19 PM


    The fact the red came early in the game makes no difference,as a red card is a red card if it’s the first minute or the last minute. If that challenge had gone in one of ours everyone would be screaming for a red card.

    The lad cannot keep his head it seems as that should have been his second straight red in four games and until he gets a grip of himself he’s gonna be nothing but a liability to us

  • 193 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:20 PM

    I’d prefer to have Arsenal’s striker crisis than ours. We need a top striker added to our ranks before anything else.

    Mitrovic is a big worry to me because he’s a complete rookie. We can’t afford to spend a full season or more training Mitrovic to be an EPL striker, with no guarantee of success. It looks negligent.

    I hope Carr knows that this lad will be up to speed before long because I can’t see it. Get a recognised top league striker in now before its too late, I say.

  • 194 TheToonKing // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:21 PM

    Blackley, read your post back about The GoogleKing.

  • 195 Reyantoon // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:21 PM

    The Premier league has 3 or 4 good and intelligent refrees,
    Michael Oliver,John Moss,Mark Clattenburg and Anthony Taylor.The rest are Pants.Surprisingly,
    Non will officiate our matches except Anthony Taylor,and that in itself is a problem for us recently.Are all the PL refrees comes from NE?

  • 196 cyprus // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:23 PM

    Actually, there is a difference. The ref has to manage a whole game, so he has to exercise common sense, ‘manage’ the game. That early, a severe talking to and a yellow would have sufficed. There was no malice in the tackle, same as Sissoko.

    The ref effectively ruined and ended the game. Mitro helped big time, granted 🙂

  • 197 WWSBRD // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:25 PM

    There is no proof that there is no malice in the ‘tackle’ same with Sissoko

  • 198 toonbrother // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:26 PM

    @193 Blackley and Brownlie
    Strikers are the least of our worries
    Cisse is a proven goal scorer
    Ayoze perez is BRILLIANT
    Mitrovic – moments of madness aside- looks an exciting prospect
    His hold up play at Old trafford was exemplary
    Then you have Riviere who i maintain just needs a decent run of games to get going

    Thats before you consider Dejong, Gigi and Sissoko
    Goalscorers are the LEAST of our worries

    Our problems start and end with defence.

  • 199 TheToonKing // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:26 PM

    Go back and read some articles about Mitro before he signed for us. He was Europes hottest striker prospect. Wenger was after him , and everybody destined him to Real, Barca, etc.

    I guess since these clubs can buy anyone, they decided to not put effort in channeling his raw talent and physicality

  • 200 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:27 PM

    I’m with Toonbrother on Colo. He doesn’t get found out in every game but in far too many. His positional play and his softness (flinching when the ball’s hit) are woeful. He’s easily beaten in the air and outmuscled. He’s the only mute captain I can think of.

  • 201 JackButler // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:27 PM


    His foot was up, studs showing and he raked his foot down Cock’s leg!!!

    Every man and his dog will tell you that it was a straight red, even Shearer said so himself.

    As for a ref managing a game, yeah they have to, but they also have a duty of care to all players on the pitch and he did manage the game by sending off a total idiot of a player and it was that player who ruined the game not the ref.

    Lay the blame where it’s deserved and that’s with Mitrovic not the ref

  • 202 toonbrother // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:29 PM

    Perez, cisse, mitrovic, riveier, toney & Dejong
    We have one the best CF options in the whole league

    But in left sided central defence all we have is Dummett who is injury prone and Colocinni who is pure thrash

    If carr spends a single penny on anything other than a LCB he should be fired with immediate effect

  • 203 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:31 PM

    Jack Butler
    I see your point, we wouldn’t have liked 1 of our players on the wrong side of that tackle. Although we’ve seen worse.
    But I didn’t see a reaction from any of the arsenal players, apart from him who rolled over ten times pretending to be injuried, the only other reaction from them was surprise when the card was shown.

    Futher more there was no arsenal fans screaming red card. They would have been happy with a straight forward free kick.

  • 204 TheToonKing // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:31 PM

    JackButler, yes he raked his leg as he was looking to get the ball. It was clumsly and late, but definitaly not a foul you would expect a red for. Eveyone was surprised by it, Arsenal players included.

    It was a yellow. Mariner was afraid, wanted to set an example, be the star, whatever. He was horrible yesterday.

  • 205 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:36 PM

    There’s only one natutal goalscorer amongst them. Cisse. We’re dependent on his form. Perez is not a striker. De jong is not a striker. I cant speak about Mitrovic other than on the little I’ve seen. He looks a major gamble, like Justin Fashanu. I wouldn’t be surprised if Adam Armstrong gets a recall out of desperation.

  • 206 JackButler // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:37 PM

    Lads for gods sake, every manager and pro that has been shown that tackle agrees that it was a red card – all the refs and players alike can’t be wrong.

    We should be worrying about our own player rather than slating a ref or coming up with conspiracy theories as to why he was sent off.

    Booked within seconds of making his debut, booked at Swansea where he should have received a straight red and given a straight red yesterday, the lad is an idiot who cost us any chance in the game, he is a liability and needs to change or there will be plenty more reds to follow

  • 207 toonbrother // Aug 30, 2015 at 2:49 PM

    @191 cyprus

    With respect the problem with fans like you is you only notice the Potentially fatal flaws in defenders like Colo after they have proven fatal.

    He made numerous mistakes yesterday but only one got punished by arsenal

    Numerous times during yesterdays game he was exposed with ABSOLUTE ease

    Walcott turned him twice with a simple burst of pace
    But luckily for us he failed to score one on ones both times. One time mbemba had to run behind colo to cover for him after walcott had left him for dead

    He also did that thing he often does where he charges out of defence spontaneously leaving gaping holes at the back
    Expecting poor Mbemba to play central defence by himself.
    Its okay for a central defender to charge out when they see a sloppy pass played and are confident they they will retrieve possession or punctuate the oppositions build up play. Rio Ferdinand used to do that with success

    But with Colocinni that almost never happens
    He just charges out pointlessly leaving a hole in defence and poor folk like Williamson, Mbemba and Taylor are left to look like mugs when they unsuccessfully try to stop the resulting goals

    Notice that whenever we concede those bizarre cheap goals he is never in the vicinity (and thus not seen as being directly at fault). Its because he is careful to not be where he needs to be

    In short with him in the team, we Cannot move forward

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