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Newcastle Not Interested In This Player In January

2:50 pm, Saturday, September 5th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 156 Comments

Newcastle were linked with a move for former Arsenal and Chelsea left-back Ashley Cole at the end of the transfer window, and if was reported in Gazzetta dello Sport and they reported Newcastle had bid for the player – but that Ashley turned us down.

We know that Mike Ashley, hopefully,  has changed the way he is running Newcastle, and we will now be bringing in some older players from the continent who can make an immediate impact,  but we will not be bringing in former world-class players who are now way past their best.

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Ashley Cole – in action for Roma

Mike Ashley did that once, five years ago,  and we got very badly burned after former manager Chris Hughton persuaded the owner to buy former England great Sol Campbell on a one year deal, but Sol was abysmal and he played only 8 times for us and he was on £45K/week.

Sol was 35 years old when we signed him.

Not surprisingly the former England great hung up his boots in the summer of 2011, and Newcastle became the last club he ever played for,  after having a terrific career with Tottenham and then their big rivals Arsenal – and he represented England 73 times.

Newcastle are expected to buy again in January, and we would expect the club have a decent idea of whom they will be going after when the month-long transfer window opens on New Year’s day.

But one of them will not be Ashley Cole, who turns 35 in December.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Newcastle News · Recruitment · Scouting Network · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target

156 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Jail for Ashley // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:04 PM

    Ashley Out!

  • 2 SUTTY1978 // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:05 PM

    Think someone was asking about Mitro’s performance a couple of posts back. I watched the game on & off. He was alright. Held the ball up well. The opposition kicked the crap out of him, easily the most fouled player on the pitch. Didn’t really ever look like scoring though.

  • 3 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:11 PM

    What a boring day with no PL matches. The frustration of having to wait more than a week to get a realistic idea on where we’re up to is clearly taking its toll.

    Listing players we’re not going to sign in January is a bit sad though.

  • 4 Ron Knee // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:19 PM

    He tried an overhead kick which nearly came off.

  • 5 Jail for Ashley // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:25 PM

    Exactly, where does the list end !

  • 6 Bri // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:28 PM

    Even if he wasn’t passed his best we still wouldn’t sign him. It’s all about sell on value with Ashley and probably always will be.

  • 7 Jail for Ashley // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:31 PM

    Can anybody think of who else we might not sign, I’m at a loss

  • 8 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:34 PM

    Maybe we could start a list of potential signings for January. There doesn’t seem owt else to discuss.

    I’ll kick it off with Charlie Austin.

  • 9 Jail for Ashley // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:34 PM

    I said before that Lescott would have been a huge boost to our defence, not a big outlay and just enough in him in case Good or Lascelles come through, a massive upgrade on Willo.

  • 10 Bri // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:41 PM

    Andy Carroll ?

  • 11 Jail for Ashley // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:42 PM

    I’ll start with who we won’t sign.
    Ricky Lambert.

  • 12 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:42 PM

    I don’t think we are going to sign Pogba. Chelsea are sniffing and they will pay more than us.

  • 13 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:45 PM

    De Gea is a great keeper and would love him to sign for us, but with all the recent fracas it will be very complicated.

  • 14 Bri // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:47 PM

    It would be good if we signed a couple of older players that could actually bring experience and possibly improve the team no end.

  • 15 Belfast // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:49 PM

    Don’t tell Ed we aren’t signing Austin in January. The next 30 Austin articles would be pointless if that’s the case.

  • 16 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:53 PM

    I don’t think we will sign Geoff Hurst. Would love his winning mentality and experience in front of goal, but I think his best days are behind him now.

  • 17 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:53 PM

    Hayayayay Hayayayay…Austin ayay….cmon everybody if we do the chant together we can summon up the Charlie Spirits…..

  • 18 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:55 PM

    I think for all his troubles settling in, I think he’s got a point to prove where he is, so I think Bale won’t be coming to us. We’ll just have to accept it and move on.

  • 19 Belfast // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:57 PM

    They should probably just scrap the transfer window so we can have Austin articles all season. I bet Ed would agree.

  • 20 Jail for Ashley // Sep 5, 2015 at 3:58 PM

    We are told that Mclaren has been set a target of top eight, how many chances does he get if he finishes twelfth every year.

  • 21 Jail for Ashley // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:00 PM

    Did you copy and paste your Orville sketch earlier, surely you never typed all that

  • 22 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:02 PM

    There’s talk of Shola Ameobi returning to England. I don’t think he’ll be coming back to us. At least I fcuking hope not.

  • 23 Bri // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:03 PM

    Would love to see Thomas Mueller come here in january.
    Pipe dream i now.

  • 24 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:04 PM

    There’s talk of Shola Ameobi returning to England. I don’t think he’ll be coming back to us. At least I f…ing hope not.

  • 25 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:04 PM

    I never thought I’d see the day when the entire lyric of the late Keith & Orv’s massive hit was posted as relevant on a nufc blog. But I have. Stuff silverware!

  • 26 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:05 PM

    Oh and Belfast don’t say anything in Ed’s hearing but….. a Charlie Austin Blog? Think about it, could have legs. Unlike Charlie of course…

  • 27 Jail for Ashley // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:05 PM

    Where is he like, I thought he was at Palace, why did he never have a testimonial for us, do you think it was in case only 10K turned up.

  • 28 Jail for Ashley // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:07 PM

    Ah Tsunki,
    It was the lyrics to that god awful song was it ?

  • 29 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:07 PM

    Betty if you post that a third time I would not like to contemplate the consequences.

  • 30 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:08 PM

    There was talk of Jack Charlton coming out of retirement to add a bit of height and aerial presence to our back four. Can’t see it meself like.

  • 31 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:08 PM

    Jail… unbelievably yes. Yes, it was.

  • 32 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:09 PM

    Tsunki… Haha, it was held up for a swear check I think.

  • 33 Belfast // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:11 PM

    It was copied and pasted of course.

    It was relevant and a rather fitting song to describe Bandb and Ibizas relationship Skunki. 🙂

    Although the song is now stuck in my head.

  • 34 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:12 PM

    Jail…. I think he went to Greece. Not sure though.

  • 35 toon kk // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:13 PM

    On the poll, I found it very hard to decide how to vote. We haven’t actually seen us play a competitive game since we played Southampton. Against Man u we defended for 95% of the game. The other two with 10 men we were just totally out played. The worrying thing is we’re relying on a hot headed kid as our main striker and struggle with possession.
    So I’d be happy with survival, with us being so far run down and just escaping relegation we’re just like a newly promoted club starting life in the premier league. At least we have some quality player brought in, we just need to attack for a change.

  • 36 Jail for Ashley // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:16 PM

    I didn’t realise it was the words to the song, I thought it was from one their acts, did you put in any of your own quotes.

  • 37 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:18 PM

    Belfast your ear worm is thoroughly deserved.

  • 38 Mister Tuff // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:19 PM

    lesh – previous – indeed the Minervois area has excellent wines – the difference between what is on offer here compared to what we import is massive.
    The Cathar history is very interesting -as duallists they believed in a good God and his evil adversary. Bit like some on here believing in King Percy and or Mr Tubbs. They mostly perished on the orders of the Pope.
    The fight against the blog heritics is a Godly cause.

  • 39 Jail for Ashley // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:20 PM

    toon kk,
    There is absolutely no way that a 20 year old hot head new to a league and country should be expected to lead the line, although there was a clamour for him to start. I still maintain Austin would have been a better signing.

  • 40 Belfast // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:23 PM

    No haha. It was just the annoying wish I could fly right up to the sky full song.

  • 41 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:25 PM

    Belfast….. I think BandB will take offence at the song and become very angry. She seems to have become quite aggressive and confrontational of late.

  • 42 Belfast // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:25 PM

    You’re putting ideas in my head for the next time though 🙂

  • 43 Jail for Ashley // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:29 PM

    She’s actually being quite chilled out I thought !

  • 44 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:33 PM

    Michael Owen doesn’t seem to be cutting the mustard as a commentator and he’s had enough of the criticism. Let’s hope we don’t re sign him, he was always injured and cost us a fortune in wages.

  • 45 Belfast // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:35 PM

    Shes a bit of a diva Betty but I think I’ll survive.

    That’s showbiz!

  • 46 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:35 PM

    Jail….. Are you being serious? She had a proper rant at me the other night . Completely unprovoked.

  • 47 Jail for Ashley // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:35 PM

    When I posted the other day all the quotes the Ashley haters use while subconsciously defending him, I missed one out, bobbybee kindly posted it for me.
    It’s his club he can do what he wants.

  • 48 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:37 PM

    Belfast……. Ok but don’t say you were’ nt warned. I think you will incur the wrath for this one.

  • 49 Jail for Ashley // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:39 PM

    Are you sure it was unprovoked?

  • 50 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:40 PM

    Bobby Charlton would have been a great signing for us. Just watching some of his goals. That’s how to strike a football.

  • 51 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:42 PM

    Yes. Was having a bit of banter with Geordietwo and she steamed in and had a real go.

  • 52 welshgeordie9 // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:42 PM

    Good evening ladies, i quite like BandB she’s easy to wind up.

  • 53 welshgeordie9 // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:43 PM

    She’s also very funny with her comments.

  • 54 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:46 PM

    If it was Betty it’s hardly likely it was unprovoked ha ha 🙂

  • 55 Belfast // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:47 PM

    Quaking in my Boots Betty. 🙂

    Did Orville pop along and bite your ankles by any chance?

  • 56 Jail for Ashley // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:49 PM

    She posted the lyrics to a song today, it reminded me of you !

  • 57 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:49 PM

    Although I said something I thought was innocent, totally not directed at BandB and I got the full force 8 whoooosh! 😐

    You don’t think she’ll see this do you? Ha ha only kidding! But you don’t do you?

  • 58 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:51 PM

    I don’t dislike BandB. Since realising she is a genuine passionate fan, I have tried to treat her with respect, perhaps overly so. Chivalry may not be the answer when dealing with her.

  • 59 welshgeordie9 // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:54 PM


    What song was that, i bet it was simply the best by Tina Turner, tell BandB i already new that.

    Ha ha ha

  • 60 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:55 PM

    No no no I don’t think chivalry works. Deeply suspicious of that is BandB, I think she views it as condescension. Puts me in a bit of a quandary though, my mam taught me to give up my seat and open doors, even walk on the outside of the pavement. I’m the last of a dying breed. 🙂

  • 61 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:56 PM

    Welsh I think it might have been Mercy by your compatriot Duffy. I think she’s Welsh anyway she sounds it.

  • 62 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:56 PM

    Tsunki. I think we’ll all be forrit when she reads all this. Mainly you though.

  • 63 welshgeordie9 // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:57 PM

    Shelvey to score today.

  • 64 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:58 PM

    I’m hoping she skims past this when she sees belfasts moniker 😀 I know I do.

  • 65 Belfast // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:58 PM

    Oh no she’s coming! Just seen her park up outside. She looks angry and Orville looks like he’s been crying.

    I’m escaping out the fire exit…

  • 66 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:59 PM

    Tsunki….. I’ll take your advice then , no more chivalry and tiptoeing around.

    If it backfires though, it’ll be your fault.

  • 67 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 4:59 PM

    You like shelves don’t you Welsh. Is it cos he’s saving up for a combover as well 🙂

  • 68 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 5:01 PM

    ……..we are bored, aren’ t we?

  • 69 welshgeordie9 // Sep 5, 2015 at 5:01 PM


    He’s the best player England have got.

  • 70 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 5:03 PM

    Shelvey should have worn a cap. There’s a woodpecker flying about.

  • 71 Belfast // Sep 5, 2015 at 5:04 PM

    I fancy san marino

  • 72 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 5:05 PM

    Welsh, alas you may well be right ( takes off cap, clasps it to chest with both hands while lowering head)

  • 73 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 5:07 PM

    Hmmm… I wonder what tactics San Marino will employ this time? A pallet of cement? Water bowser? Hay bales?

  • 74 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 5:10 PM

    Tsunki…. Maybe a couple of sheep.

  • 75 Jail for Ashley // Sep 5, 2015 at 5:10 PM

    No welsh,
    It was jilted john and the chorus is quite funny !

  • 76 Belfast // Sep 5, 2015 at 5:12 PM

    Probably just a hatchet job Skunki. Kick like ferk

  • 77 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 5:14 PM

    Ha yes Gordon is a mo- oron saw it on TV the other day quite the chuckle.

  • 78 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 5, 2015 at 5:15 PM

    Hoddle on the penalty. Something happened in there. Something definitely happened.

  • 79 Belfast // Sep 5, 2015 at 5:15 PM

    Anybody any idea what that was given for? Me neither

  • 80 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 5:18 PM

    Apparently the real England fans are the ones who only have a crap, insignificant local team to support. Where does that leave us then like.

  • 81 welshgeordie9 // Sep 5, 2015 at 5:25 PM

    This game is pants, more action watching Tom and Jerry.

  • 82 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 5:27 PM

    I took the 7 to 1 for us to score more than 5. Not looking good.

  • 83 Belfast // Sep 5, 2015 at 5:27 PM

    He’s been appearing in the Bt sport commentary box this season Blackley.

    He had Fellani coming off the bench later against Brugge even though he was suspended 🙂

  • 84 Belfast // Sep 5, 2015 at 5:29 PM

    Yep Welshie Joe Hart is having a shave in the changing room

  • 85 Belfast // Sep 5, 2015 at 5:33 PM

    Against Spurs*

  • 86 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 5, 2015 at 5:45 PM

    Who has the more punchable face ? :

    1) Wayne Rooney
    2) Jamie Vardy

  • 87 WWSBRD // Sep 5, 2015 at 6:06 PM

    Shelvey emEnglands best player howay he’s not even England’s best CM

  • 88 beermonkey // Sep 5, 2015 at 6:22 PM

    big papa

    shelvy has the most punchable face

  • 89 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 6:24 PM

    I think his face shows it already has been

  • 90 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 6:27 PM

    How’s Charlie doing? Or shouldn’t I ask?

  • 91 AncientC // Sep 5, 2015 at 6:38 PM

    I am curious… at what level of outlay in the summer did Ashley hit ‘spending the minimal required to stay in the premier league,’ to then surpassing expectations and ‘spending enough to give people optimism’?

    Let’s not factor in the rumours of Ashley wanting to spend more this summer due to an inflation in player prices in the near future. Further still, let’s not factor in that the club ended the season with mass protests and season tickets proving difficult to shift.

    As the club that finished the season with the worst form in the Premier League, would it be fair to say that the minimal required (on the correct recruits) spending would be in around £35 million – making a total (extra) spend of £15 million the difference between Ashley sticking to past form, and Ashley having changed his ways?

  • 92 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 6:42 PM

    Haha, I won .

  • 93 Toon-Prodigy // Sep 5, 2015 at 6:52 PM

    I had 8. And it should of been! Bahh!

  • 94 Ibizatoon // Sep 5, 2015 at 7:02 PM

    Ancient…Interesting question.

    I have another factor for consideration. Last season we spent £37.9m (, but sold players to the value of £20.7m.

    When we discuss spend, are we considering monies recouped in the “‘spending the minimal required to stay in the premier league,’ to then surpassing expectations and ‘spending enough to give people optimism’?”?

    Whilst spending big money is an instinctive indicator of progress. I’ve never actually cared how much we spend. Finances only became an issue from being told that we can’t compete.

    Perhaps we should just be looking at the quality of the squad, rather than the attached figures?

    Ed’s poll shows the majority of this blog expect us to finish 10th – 17th. It does seem a big spectrum (I saw calls for it to be 12-17 instead), but last season the difference was 10 points.

    Would we consider therefore, that a 10th – 17th placed squad is generally “minimal required to stay in the premier league”?

    I think like most current discussions on NUFC – this one will have to go in the ‘lets wait and see’. It all hinges on what comes next, as it seems, we’re not there yet.

    To actually have a stab at an answer (I know, long post of waffle), I think given where we were, there more or less the same thing. We had to spend biggish money to catch up, yet biggish money is nothing to turn your nose up at. Was that even an answer?

  • 95 Ibizatoon // Sep 5, 2015 at 7:07 PM

    they’re* in the last paragraph.

    Slap on the wrist for me.

  • 96 Average_Contents // Sep 5, 2015 at 7:12 PM


    In answer to you’re “was that even an answer” then it’s a big fat fcuking no.

    Vague as usual mate. Just say it how you see it, unless of course you don’t want to get burned. Shithouse 😛

  • 97 Average_Contents // Sep 5, 2015 at 7:13 PM

    How’s it going anyway mate? All good me hopes?

  • 98 Average_Contents // Sep 5, 2015 at 7:15 PM

    * All good I hope

  • 99 Ibizatoon // Sep 5, 2015 at 7:16 PM

    Average…I assume that most people on here know my current general views on things NUFC 🙂

    In short, I think for now we’ve spent what we needed to survive, not compete.

    A two line answer. Where’s the fun in that?

    All good, thanks. How’s things with you? Still enjoying the job change?

  • 100 Ibizatoon // Sep 5, 2015 at 7:17 PM

    AC…Too late, we all saw your “me hopes”.

    I feel a bit embarrassed for you tbh 🙂

  • 101 Ibizatoon // Sep 5, 2015 at 7:27 PM

    Jeez mate, me hopes you know I was only joking.

  • 102 welshgeordie9 // Sep 5, 2015 at 7:30 PM

    Me hope that all of us can be friends me hopes does.

    Ha ha ha

  • 103 AncientC // Sep 5, 2015 at 7:39 PM

    Ibiza, to cut a long story short, I believe some folks have been drinking the Ashley kool-aid.

    The squad needed drastic attention after our form at the end of last season. In my estimation, Ashley has put in about £15 million more than he needed too… which has gained him back a lot of faith and patience. That is £15 million Ashley can (and probably will) make back by selling Sissoko next summer… there is also the double-down gamble on Wijnaldum and Thauvin; if one of those 2 mentioned comes good, he then has another profit from that extra (approximate) £15 million overspend.

    As far as I can tell, Ashley has merely attempted to placate the fans by gambling on players he can sell in future, rather than having real ambition to take the club forward.

    With McClaren’s heart so set on playing a 4-2-3-1, why has most of the investment gone in towards the 3 behind the striker, which was already strong to begin with.

  • 104 SUTTY1978 // Sep 5, 2015 at 7:49 PM

    I think everyone envisaged me might at a push have a net spend of £20-25M. Not saying that people thought that was enough to keep us in the league but it would have been 4 or 5 players with maybe one or two being on a free. Net spend of £50m was above everyones predictions (except maybe Kez!).
    The thing is that we have spent big on potential rather than fully fledged stars, that means that the optimism for this season doesn’t really reflect the spend and rightly so. The big hope is that the players we have bought, the ones we already have and ones we are going to buy mature together into one hell of a team. The potential talent for that to happen is certainly there. Its not a long shot but its a good 200 yards with a sniper rifle.
    In answer to the question

    20m min
    30m mild curiosity
    40m surprised
    50m very surprised
    50m with statement that we will carry on spending in the next windows – optimism

  • 105 Ibizatoon // Sep 5, 2015 at 7:55 PM

    AncientC…There are still some survivors out there then? 🙂

    Whilst I’m not unhappy with the recent “change”, I’m not sure how different it is from bits of Ashleys reign we’ve seen before. It could well turn out differently, but then again…

    People seem to be playing down the importance of trust lately. For me it’s a huge part of it. People will have to forgive me for being cynical with Keith Bishop so close at hand. I presume he is still part of the NUFC family?

    Overall, on the whole Ashley thing. He isn’t spending “his” money. He’s spending the clubs money. Granted he could be paying back his loan. There are still issues over SD advertising over the ground. In fact, the whole arrangement with SD, merchandising etc. I’m sure i’m not alone in wanting a bit more clarifty in that area?

    Seems it got so bad, that a fair few are simply happy to have a competent team (well, we hope so anyway) and a coaching staff that aren’t a complete embarrassment, which is what we had.

  • 106 SUTTY1978 // Sep 5, 2015 at 7:57 PM

    Ancient, we haven’t really sold a player for a decent profit for 18 months. The players that have left over the last three years at a profit have been because they have forced a move:- Ba, Cabaye, Debuchy etc.
    The last player who may or may not have gone against his will was Carroll and I think everyone can now see that was one of the best deals in football history.
    I know it doesnt suit peoples agendas but those are the facts.
    On the flipside the biggest problem has always been not replacing players in a timely manner i.e. Immediately, that is the thing that has always killed us and has always made the players leaving hard to take.
    The only time they have actively replaced was Debuchy and the difference in fans attitudes was immense, no one really cared that he went as the impression was that Janmaat was better

  • 107 Ibizatoon // Sep 5, 2015 at 7:57 PM

    Sutty…Good table there.

    Do you really think we’d have been reasonably safe from relegation this season with only a £20m spend?

    Of course it all depends on what you buy for that, but based on how we spent, that would surely be really undercooking it?

  • 108 SUTTY1978 // Sep 5, 2015 at 8:03 PM

    Ibiza, no not really, just going from what most people thought would be a max net spend at the start of the summer. Saying that I think you cant underplay the difference a change of manager with our previous squad “should” have made.
    Avoiding relegation spend really just needed to be three players 2 x CB and a Striker. We’re still waiting for one of the CB’s!

  • 109 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Sep 5, 2015 at 8:03 PM

    The margins in football are so slender if Cisse did not get suspended for 10 games last season under Carver he may have got a few more wins that would have meant a top 10 finish which probably would have meant Carver keeping the job and we would have only spent the bare minimum !

    Although we technically had 50 million in the bank from player sales so we have actually spent the bare minimum the TV money has not been touched for 2 seasons in a row now !! He technically has enough to pay the “debt” off but so far has chosen not too ?!So what is happening to that money?

    I think the players we have signed have been good but look at West Ham , Stoke and Swansea who are in our league not sure we have signed better than they have and a lot of their signings have been cheaper than ours !

  • 110 AncientC // Sep 5, 2015 at 8:04 PM

    SUTTY1978, It is worthy of interest that Sissoko and Thauvin are signed up with the same agency as Cabaye and Debuchy.

  • 111 doofa the loofa // Sep 5, 2015 at 8:05 PM

    That mike ashley bloke spends nufc’s money like its his own… sooo wrong 😉

  • 112 Ibizatoon // Sep 5, 2015 at 8:13 PM

    Sutty…Are you saying we’re going to be relegated?!? 🙂

    Does the new manager effect only seem to show when a manager joins mid-season? Our message seems to be more slow and steady, but perhaps that comes with joining in the off season and having that planning time.

    Lee…To avoid a blog meltdown, can we just say that those figures are most likely grossly exaggerated 🙂

    From memory, the club made a overall profit of £34m the season before last, that’s what was supposedly in the account after all costs and player trading and TV money.

    I might have to leave now. Not sure I want to dedicate a Saturday night to NUFC finances.

    Let me open up excel.

  • 113 SUTTY1978 // Sep 5, 2015 at 8:14 PM

    Ancient, we only seem to deal with a couple of agents, most of our players are represented by very few. Bit like when we used to get loads of players through Willie McKay.

  • 114 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 8:18 PM

    Ibiza….. I think we just need to give it a few more games until we decide that the spend has only assured survival.

    If you are proven right then we all have the right to complain but we still don’t know yet.

  • 115 SUTTY1978 // Sep 5, 2015 at 8:22 PM

    Lee, wow 50m in the bank from player sales??
    We had £34m in the bank at 30th of June 2014. The majority of that was spent in that summer.
    One can presume that we maybe had 60m in the bank at 30th of June 2015 and we have spent £50m since, the other £10m being used for normal running of the business prior to the start of the season.
    Do you think theres some massive extra slush fund sat somewhere with another £70m from the TV money?
    Where do you think the money comes from to run the business, pay the wages, pay rates, electricity, policing all the other expenses?
    You’re either on the wind up or you’ve never been involved in running a business.

  • 116 Ibizatoon // Sep 5, 2015 at 8:22 PM

    Betty…I didn’t intend to word it as if I am certainly right, if I did. That would of course be rather silly. We must wait and see, pretty sure I slipped that in there somewhere.

    Really, we wont know until we’re mathematically safe. See, that’s positive. I didn’t say “or mathematically relegated”…whoops!

  • 117 SUTTY1978 // Sep 5, 2015 at 8:27 PM

    Ibiza, i hope we wont be relegated, they say the table doesn’t lie though! Does seem a slow building job which is odd, we only have 4 new first team players, some other teams (that are doing better than us) have 8 or 9. You might expect a bit of inconsistency rather than not being able to win at all. Think McLaren basically writing off the first 10-12 games as a bedding in period gives the players an easy excuse not to turn up. Don’t like him sitting in the stands for the first half either… Seem to be starting on a bit of a McClarens crap rant here, best stop!

  • 118 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Sep 5, 2015 at 8:27 PM


    34 million in the bank plus at least 15 million from Pardew , Mbiwa , Santon transfer fees and money in wages saved from those leaving as well as wages away from Ben Arfa, Jonas and Raylor leaving who were all on about 40k a week

    So there was at least 50 million to spare this summer we have done well with the players bought but if we end up struggling and having to play players out of position because we never bought the 2 full backs, defensive midfielder and centre back we needed then saving money for a rainy day is just going to be another monumental error in the history of Ashleys reign !!!

  • 119 Ibizatoon // Sep 5, 2015 at 8:33 PM

    Sutty…The table doesn’t lie indeed. Mind, neither does the calendar. You’d hope with ‘easier’ games and time under the teams belts, results will improve. Scorelines have so far.

  • 120 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Sep 5, 2015 at 8:34 PM

    Yeah I dont like Mclaren sitting in the stands every game so far he has had to come down and sort it out! Our players seem to respond when he is on the touchline barking orders which probably emphasises our lack of leaders on the pitch !!

    Oh and for the love of god Anita or Colback have to be dropped against West Ham and Watford to be replaced by Perez can understand a cautious approach against Man Utd and Arsenal but its not acceptable against teams in our league and teams we should be beating !!

  • 121 SUTTY1978 // Sep 5, 2015 at 8:42 PM


    This is the table showing transfer spend. In 13/14 we made £20 profit, in 14/15 we made a £20m net spend so they cancel each other out. This summers spend is £50m net so that has come from the TV money not from a transfer surplus.

  • 122 SUTTY1978 // Sep 5, 2015 at 8:43 PM

    Hang on, i think i’ve started transforming into JIB! Must….resist….urge…….use….google…

  • 123 SUTTY1978 // Sep 5, 2015 at 8:45 PM

    Lee, agree, definitely need a change in the engine room, i’m hoping De Jong us up to speed so Wijnaldum can drop back. He played there for Holland and was properly box to box, must have covered a half marathon in that game!

  • 124 SUTTY1978 // Sep 5, 2015 at 8:46 PM

    Crikey, now i’m turning into GeordieTwo, talking to myself!

  • 125 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 8:55 PM

    Ibiza……. I can’t see the point in bothering to watch us play if you have already made your mind up that the new signings and the new coaching staff will only ensure survival. Still you know best.

  • 126 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Sep 5, 2015 at 8:55 PM


    Cheers for the figures there I will say though from it what a lot of shite we have bought at the lower level which never even got a game !!

    I mean have we really upgraded Perch, Best, Lovenkrands or Guthrie in terms of squad players who can provide depth? We could have done with some of those players last season

    I think Wijnaldum should be free to do what he wants to do on the pitch for us he can be trusted to track back and put tackles in but he needs to be in and around the box when the chances are getting created as he will get goals great little player !

    Will also be interesting to see what Cisse plays like will he take the huff or will he be fantastic ?

  • 127 Sack Llambias // Sep 5, 2015 at 9:04 PM

    This is an Ashley out letter I read to Jail and were posting it.
    A depressingly ignorant yet all-so-predictable post, based on superficial arguments often found in press articles sympathetic to Ashley, peddled by his personal PR advisor. Let me enlighten you on one or two of your “inaccuracies”…

    “Ashley has spent hundreds of millions of pounds propping up Newcastle”: Since Mike Ashley purchased NUFC out of his own choice, the burden of debt has significantly increased to the tune of £129m, far higher than when he took over. NUFC has spent less and profited more on transfers than any other PL club over the course of his tenure, and that with the third highest attendances in the country. Also, due to NUFC being part of Ashley’s Sports Direct operation, all merchandising and commercial revenue such as advertising, is no longer available to NUFC, and the club is alone in PL in not having grown its revenue in this area.

    “Anyone would think the club is automatically entitled to having pot loads of his money poured into it”: Err, sorry but who has ever stated such garbage? Sources please… ?

    “Season ticket prices have been frozen again”: Ticket prices are perhaps one bright spot. I suspect this is down to keeping the crowds high, as demand is on the wane…

    “The fans drove out a decent young English manager”: Would that be the same decent young English manager who was driven out of Upton Park, St Mary’s and the Madejski Stadium before coming to SJP? Personally, I had no problem with Pardew, and thought he did a decent job under the circumstances, often being hung-out to dry by Ashley as the only public face of the club available to face legitimate criticism. Other fans thought differently – that’s their right. His form last season would’ve earned him the sack at every other PL club, there in no doubt about that. Still, he’s going very well at Palace right now, so good luck to him.

    “Anyone would think they are a top four side, they aint”: Well, I agree on that one at least. The thing is, under Ashley the club does not even want to try. In the last 20 years, NUFC has finished 2nd in the PL on two occasions and reached two FA cup finals. There have been several top-six finishes and the club is one of a select few who have qualified for and reached the knock-out stages of the CL, as well as having progressed well in the Europe League. All of that bar-one was pre-Ashley, and in the latest statements by MD and ex-tea boy Lee Charmless, all that is now in the past. The goal now is to finish 10th, with the investment strategy of “as little as possible, as much as necessary”.

  • 128 Sack Llambias // Sep 5, 2015 at 9:10 PM

    Also on behalf of Jail- Don’t forget Mr Tuff will be back on here tomorrow and he will be happy to respond to all anti Ashley comments. So get working on them now. New season lets get busy.

  • 129 SUTTY1978 // Sep 5, 2015 at 9:14 PM

    Sack, you’ve lost me, what point are you trying to make there?

  • 130 Sack Llambias // Sep 5, 2015 at 9:17 PM

    Ashley lock stock and barrel out.

  • 131 SUTTY1978 // Sep 5, 2015 at 9:17 PM

    Lee, agree Wijnaldum should be given free reign, I would just prefer him to do this from a bit further back. Anita and Colback barely pass the halfway line, Wijnaldum in there would drag us up the pitch a bit. Only want to see this when De Jong is onform to slot into the no.10 though.

  • 132 SUTTY1978 // Sep 5, 2015 at 9:20 PM

    Sack, I think you’re p*ssing in the wind but feel free to keep that going. I see the AO chaps seem to have given up, the site hasn’t been updated for two months. Each to their own.


  • 133 Sack Llambias // Sep 5, 2015 at 9:26 PM

    Your out of touch. Mr Tuff will be talking to you and others who are clueless about the power of communikation. With your great points you could be on the board soon. Don’t look a gift dog etc in the etc.
    Haway the lares,

  • 134 Sack Llambias // Sep 5, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    Our president Mr Tuff will be available to greet you tomorrow.

  • 135 SUTTY1978 // Sep 5, 2015 at 9:31 PM

    One too many sherry’s my friend?

  • 136 Ibizatoon // Sep 5, 2015 at 9:35 PM

    Betty…Did you read my post? If so, which bit don’t you get?

    I gave my view on what I can see now and have said that we will of course see what unfolds. We were having a discussion on whether we thought, at this stage, we had spent to survive or push on. I gave my thoughts on that and even tried to apply reason to that perhaps being a majority held view.

    Perhaps we just shouldn’t discuss it all?

    Not sure if it’s your intention, but so you don’t continue to think yours being attacked unprovoked, you appear against general discussion and appear to be calling for only positive thoughts. Not exactly reasonable.

  • 137 SUTTY1978 // Sep 5, 2015 at 9:49 PM

    Interesting article for the sell on conspiracy theorists, apparently we’re looking at selling Thauvin after having him for about 3 weeks! Hope nobody gets paid for making this crap up!

  • 138 Belfast // Sep 5, 2015 at 10:01 PM

    Sack LLambias lately I’m having real trouble understanding your posts lol

  • 139 Belfast // Sep 5, 2015 at 10:03 PM

    Sutty I was going to ask this a few days ago. Is there any way I can block those dodgy websites showing up on my Nufc newsnow page ? Sports mole, what culture etc etc

  • 140 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 10:11 PM

    If sack llambias is Ian I think it’s a shame because he’s obviously been hammering the varnish lol.

    I have to give him credit though, if he’s trying to act the idiot he’s punching way above his weight. Bravo!

  • 141 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 10:12 PM

    Thauvin off to Barcelona lol I might have bit with spuds but come on…

  • 142 welshgeordie9 // Sep 5, 2015 at 10:14 PM

    Any news on Charlie Austin.

  • 143 welshgeordie9 // Sep 5, 2015 at 10:15 PM

    Just pretending the window is still open.

    Ha ha ha

  • 144 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 10:16 PM

    Welsh I’m staying up for the article Eds probably got cramp in his typing fingers but I’m sure it’s going to be along any time soon.

  • 145 SUTTY1978 // Sep 5, 2015 at 10:18 PM

    Belfast, if you click/tap on the name of the website it comes up with a little box with the option to “hide publication” you never get any from that site pop up after that.


  • 146 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 10:19 PM

    Belfast you can actually block the domain in your security settings……

    …. Nah. Forget what I said.

  • 147 Belfast // Sep 5, 2015 at 10:22 PM

    Thanks I’ve been wondering about that for ages 🙂

    No more bullshitter sites for me then.

  • 148 SUTTY1978 // Sep 5, 2015 at 10:26 PM

    Funny thing with that sports mole article, it claims we’d accept £14.5m for him, the same amount we paid! Maybe Swansea will sell us Ayew for the amount they paid, you can but hope!

  • 149 Tsunki // Sep 5, 2015 at 10:36 PM

    Well so long belfast, it’s been fun. 🙂

  • 150 Mister Tuff // Sep 5, 2015 at 10:42 PM

    well now a few digs from Sack Llambias -now I wonder who likes a pot shot – especially when he’s been on the sauce or pink gins – non other than the master multiple himself.
    Your previous post at 127 what was all that about -were they your views, copied to illustrate your points, somebody elses whose views you do not agree with.
    All in all incoherent tosh – just like Maccas bwave new world with bwave new warriors – whats all that about????????????????? Nobody understands what you are on about. If you just got to the point in understandable post construction it would be a lot easier instead of being a fancy dan/clever dick – highlighted further when you been on the sauce. Stop your blog mischief and shenanigans.

  • 151 Belfast // Sep 5, 2015 at 10:45 PM

    I’ll make an exception for this site Skunki.

  • 152 Belfast // Sep 5, 2015 at 10:46 PM

    Good evening Mr president!

  • 153 Mister Tuff // Sep 5, 2015 at 10:52 PM

    Mr Tubbs…………………………………………….OOT
    Master Multiple and his mischievous multiple
    Persons attempting to coin a phrase such as
    “Maccas bwave new world” – which nobody understands………………………………………..OOT

  • 154 welshgeordie9 // Sep 5, 2015 at 10:54 PM

    Welcome back victor meldrew.

  • 155 bettyswallocks // Sep 5, 2015 at 10:58 PM

    Ibiza….. There is a big difference between on insisting on positive thoughts and keeping an open mind.

  • 156 Ibizatoon // Sep 5, 2015 at 11:26 PM

    Betty…My mind is always open, however, as we go forward, it’s common to have an idea or opinion on what you see / think at present. That can and often does change as time passes and things change.

    As I keep asking, should I just not voice how I feel or my opinion until it changes? I’m still not sure why you’ve felt the need to comment or what it is you want me to do…other than just be more open minded. A little rude, imo.

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