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McClaren – We’re Still Only Halfway There

9:53 am, Saturday, September 12th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 82 Comments

This pre-season was short this year because the season will finish early next year on May 15th, rather than on May 24th – which was the last day of last season.

That’s because the Euro 2016 Championships are to be held in France next June – so an early season end happens every two years, for the Euros and the World Cup.

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Steve McClaren – we’re only half way there

It’s because of that and the two week International break which has just ended, that has slowed many teams from getting into the groove this season.

Most teams have been inconsistent so far this season – including both Newcastle and West Ham.

Steve McClaren is changing the way Newcastle play, and  the team still needs time to get accustomed to the new way Steve and the coaching staff want them to play.

This is what the Newcastle head coach has said in the Chronicle today:

“We’re probably about halfway in terms of remodeling things on the field.”

“That’s purely because of the short pre-season and because for two games we’ve played with 10 men.”

“We’ve not got a true picture of our capabilities in terms of an attacking force so I think that we’d like over the next few games to have evidence and see that.”

“Yeah OK – keep that spirit, keep that organisation, stay in games and fight for 95 minutes and those things.”

“And now let’s play our own football, create chances and score goals.”

“There’ll be very little change to the preparation, the Premier League’s always different.” “You get games on a Friday now.”

“And we’ve played two games now at 12:45pm, and two at 3:00pm, but it’s changed so much in terms of when you play, that players just have to adapt and cope with that every single week.”

It’s due to the popularity of the Premier League around the world that games have been played at various times on Saturday and Sunday and Monday night too over the last several years.

As Steve points out, Friday night games are also being played this season for the first time – so that’s now a four-day window in which Premier League games are played.

McClaren has emphasized a few time since he took over the team, that fans have to be patient as the players get used to the new coaching staff and the new way of playing.

But we hope to see the lads play well on Monday night at Upton Park,  and Newcastle need to start winning some of these games.

With West Ham losing both their home games this season, maybe we can get all 3 points on Monday night?

Hope so.

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  • 1 Jail for Ashley // Sep 12, 2015 at 9:55 AM

    Collocini sums up what has been wrong with this whole sad Mike Ashley business and should have been shipped out to signal the start of this new era, surely there cannot be another PL defender with so many goals against to his name !

  • 2 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Sep 12, 2015 at 9:55 AM

    living on a prayer… 😉

  • 3 Jail for Ashley // Sep 12, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    You probably can’t google that type of information so can anyone think of another PL defender who has shipped so many goals !

  • 4 Jail for Ashley // Sep 12, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    Apart fro Williamson !

  • 5 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Sep 12, 2015 at 10:02 AM

    It’s true we have to be patient but Steve needs to understand that he does not have all the time in the world!

    …to quote one Louis Armstrong 😉

  • 6 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Sep 12, 2015 at 10:03 AM

    Damn…was about to say Willo

  • 7 will die for the toon army // Sep 12, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    We have to be patient very patient. Sir Alex really took a long time to gel. Lets give it time. Finish in the top table for 2 season coz its up down for us.

    12th – 5th – 16th – 10th – 17th.

    We first become a Top 10 team before dreamimg of Top 8.

  • 8 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Sep 12, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    I am pretty sure both Tottenham and Everton have worse defensive records than us…

    Go back to their worse PL season and see who played the more games in defense. ?

  • 9 will die for the toon army // Sep 12, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    We are so ambitious which we r supposed to be not too much. at times. I remember wen we finished 5th we had started talking abt the title and champions league.

    Lets calm down a little bit. We like a loss from a MCCLAREN OUT.

  • 10 will die for the toon army // Sep 12, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    I had lost my ambition wen RIP Sir Bobby left. Roeder tried to bring it back but was sucked in a flash. Then there came KK was happy he was back but not sure if he wld succeed.

    Allan came started but he always has a good start and a very bad ending. so was still biting my nails and Thank God he left that Guy had no clue only backed him coz I had no choice.

    Now Mcca, I like the start. very impressed with the organisation at the back but I have no clue where the goals r going to come from. We leave a game and all we can talk abt that we were solid at the back.

  • 11 The overrated Frenchman // Sep 12, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Mind-boggling to me that Colo and Williamson are probably going to be, at some point, our CB pairing again this season. That is truly making your own luck. Pech rather than Gluck, however.

  • 12 toon kk // Sep 12, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Will die,
    survival in the premier league has to be our first goal this season, we are no different to a newly promoted club, with us being so far run doon, its just like starting over.
    Many people expect to much from our squad.

  • 13 will die for the toon army // Sep 12, 2015 at 10:31 AM

    Toon KK

    If we finish 17th I wld b happy. Its all over again. With a very young squad 26 and below. With only and Colo 33 who is a dependable experienced starter. We r a long way to go.

    And people don’t see why Mcca needed Colo to stay.

  • 14 will die for the toon army // Sep 12, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    Mcca needs a whole season to get this team gelling;

    Krul – Ok jst needs moral

    Janmatt – Mbemba – Colo – Haidara

    First time playing together with a 20yr and 22yr old still learning there trade. Language barrier for Mbemba.

    Anita – Colback which can b changed to Wijnaldum – Anita / Colback
    First time playing together.

    Wat I know all our players are playing together for the first time.

  • 15 toon kk // Sep 12, 2015 at 10:44 AM

    Tbh I don’t really rate the scouting at Newcastle, all this “in Carr we trust” is nothing but a load of bullshit. There’s been very good pacey players been over looked to bring in flops, which haven’t been cheep.
    you need pace and power in the premier league.

  • 16 davetoon // Sep 12, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    thought Toon Brother had hacked JFAs account for a second there…

  • 17 will die for the toon army // Sep 12, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    I think with the players bought young they will adopt. Pardew was never a coach only wanted finished articles. Thats why he might succeed at Palace.

    Wat we have Mcca is a good Coach and wants to develop players. Carr and Mcca will work out.

  • 18 hibbit // Sep 12, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    toon kk….. and a good back 4 with cover not square pegs in round holes

  • 19 will die for the toon army // Sep 12, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    Sell Sell Sell. I love Cisse but not one for the future.

  • 20 SUTTY1978 // Sep 12, 2015 at 11:15 AM

    Halfway there? We’re not even a tenth in my view. I would be more patient if I could see some changes materialising but I can just see the same Pardew tendency to try and stay in a game and try and nick a goal, McClaren even says that in Ed’s quotes.
    How about going on the offensive from the off instead of sitting deep conceding possession? Crazy ideas I know.

  • 21 toon kk // Sep 12, 2015 at 11:17 AM

    Will die
    Your right when you say Pards wants/needs the finished article. But a squad needs a balance. Trouble with MA his regime of buy to sell is very important, so we’ve always got a squad made up of mainly unexperienced kids. People say we need time to gel, we may not have that time.

  • 22 will die for the toon army // Sep 12, 2015 at 11:40 AM

    Toon Kk I think we have a balance.

    Season we finished;
    Simpson. …..Taylor……….Colo………Enrique




    It looks balanced to me. Jst our senior players let us down. The shocking thing with NUFC its the kids that show ambition while the seniors look on.

  • 23 Bobbybee // Sep 12, 2015 at 11:52 AM

    We’ve played four games of a 38 game season and people are saying we’re running out of time already. Nobody ever said Macca would work miracles overnight and like anybody else, he needs time. The club was a mess when he came in, with confidence at an all time low. Two games with ten men didn’t help, nor did the fixture list. We were rock bottom and now the only way is up. We haven’t had one easy game yet and you don’t go from finishing 17th to beating the top clubs in a close season. There have been massive changes already and the quality of football is filtering through to all levels. He’s asked for time – because it takes time – and I don’t see why he can’t be given it. None of the mess is his fault, but he’s tasked with fixing it. The least he should expect is a bit of understanding and support from the fans.

  • 24 Thump // Sep 12, 2015 at 11:57 AM

    @will die: The shocking thing with NUFC its the kids that show ambition while the seniors look on.

    That tends to happen at every club, in fairness. Young lads tend to be a bit more enthusiastic because it’s the start of their career, they’re finally in the first team, and it’s a genuine pleasure for them to pull on the shirt. Young lads will almost always have more energy for the game than the older ones.

    No excuse for some of the seniors being as docile as they have been (not so much this season, though the usual suspects have popped up), though.

  • 25 toon kk // Sep 12, 2015 at 12:19 PM

    What was obvious for us all to see towards the end of last season was not just we lacked quality, (which by the way we still have most of them player’s) but the team was unfit and didn’t care.
    S mc has definitely got a more togetherness going but one thing that is missing from a couple of years ago is a top goal scorer last season we really lacked cutting edge this season we’re relying on a twenty year old who’s in the wrong sport, Mitrovic should have taken up kick boxing. But it is early days with him, so time will tell.

  • 26 SUTTY1978 // Sep 12, 2015 at 12:29 PM

    Bobby, the changes haven’t been that massive though. New manager and a handful of new players. Look at West Ham, they’ve had the same changes as us if not more so on the playing side. They’re not sitting rock bottom of the league, they have managed to get results.
    With a host of changes you would expect some inconsistency, but you would expect there to be some significant highs at some point in the games. I haven’t seen that.
    The club off the field is getting fixed, they’re doing some good stuff, it’s on the field we need to start putting on some performances.
    I was horrified when I found out McClaren was coming in. Everything i’ve seen through preseason and beyond has not yet changed my opinion. I really hope he does get things right but he just seems to be bottling it and backing the wrong horses.

  • 27 Bobbybee // Sep 12, 2015 at 12:36 PM

    I was at the U21 game last night and the new philosophy is working there too. Not once did Darlow kick the ball long, either out of his hands or a goal kick. Every time, the ball was played out through the defence and midfield. Kevin Mbabu, who always looked promising as an Academy player, is getting back to his best following a long injury. The right back shone last night and could be our answer to cover for Janmaat. Following the unfortunate red card, he then slipped seamlessly into the CB role. Before the red card we dominated Arsenal completely and played some lovely one touch football. All in all, a very good performance, despite Arsenal taking advantage of the extra man.

  • 28 WWSBRD // Sep 12, 2015 at 12:36 PM

    I never really saw why everyone was so against McClaren when he was linked never been a terrible manager but had some tough times but most have

    Then Viera was linked and everyone was over the moon…another think I never understood considering the state we are in

  • 29 SUTTY1978 // Sep 12, 2015 at 12:44 PM

    The U21’s beat Arsenal at home last season, we lost this time around, it’s not exactly progress results wise.
    We saw a smattering of decent passing football against Southampton but thats it, the three games since then have been woeful aside from some last ditch defending and probably more relevant an inform Krul.
    Anyway, new start, bring on Monday and lets hope it all comes good on the pitch, would love to see some incisive passing and goals, goals, goals!

  • 30 Jib // Sep 12, 2015 at 12:44 PM

    A great link for Everton v Chelsea

  • 31 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Sep 12, 2015 at 12:46 PM

    Yo…I cannot speak for everyone but in my opinion McClaren is not a great manager either and he is not an up and coming manager either!

    His stats recently are not inspiring and the last time he managed a PL team was Middleborough.

    Yo…it’s nothing personal. McClaren would probably be a better DoF than manager. Just an opinion 😉

  • 32 Bobbybee // Sep 12, 2015 at 12:48 PM

    Not massive changes? New coaching staff of higher quality, including one of the most highly rated young coaches in Ian Cathro. Ashley taking a back seat. The football board handling football issues. Communicating with the fans for the first time. £50m spent on quality players, including a country’s footballer of the year. More money promised in future windows. A complete change in the philosophy of how the game is played. Open training sessions. A complete change of feeling throughout the ground with the fans. Challenging for cups. Happier players. These a massive changes compared to the past few seasons.

  • 33 SUTTY1978 // Sep 12, 2015 at 12:50 PM

    On Mbabu, certainly looks physically more suited to the league than some of the other young players, probably not tall enough to commanding CB but well suited to RB where strength and pace are important.
    Satka is the other end of the scale, skinny as a rake!

  • 34 Bobbybee // Sep 12, 2015 at 12:53 PM

    McClaren has won things, whether individuals like him or not. He’s won things with unfancied teams, more to the point. What have our previous few managers ever won? As a coach with Manu he won the treble as well. His football is much more pleasant on the eye than in previous seasons and he’s getting performances out of players others haven’t.

  • 35 SUTTY1978 // Sep 12, 2015 at 12:54 PM

    Bobby, sorry I meant massive changes in relation to the playing side of things, which is why i referenced WHam. They’re in the same boat. All the changes you mention are big positives so they cant really be used as excuses for our negative performances. Anyway as I’ve said I’m putting those first four games to bed and look forward to rosier times starting Monday.

  • 36 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:03 PM

    Bobbybee…but what has he done lately?

    …I dont really care what he has done in the past on terms of a cup or a championship in the Dutch league.

    What use is that to use? We cannot live on past merit and a dusted shelf with two trophies!

  • 37 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:04 PM

    *in terms

  • 38 Bobbybee // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:08 PM

    Sutty, come on mate, give them a break. Two games with ten men. Granted, self inflicted, but harsh to blame the other ten for personal actions of one man. Most has us down to zero points at this stage, but we’ve got two hard earned points. Did we expect to beat Swansea away? Really? When did we last beat Arsenal at home? Four games – hard games for any team – and far too early to be panicking. It will take time and I thought everybody had acknowledged that already? The difference last night is that we had no first teamers in the side, just kids. We played them off the park for the majority of the game and should’ve been out of sight before they scored.

  • 39 Bobbybee // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:16 PM

    Ask Derby fans what he did to them jesper. I lived down there and remain in contact with a good few and they said he had them playing the best football in decades. If you can’t see the improvement already, you simply ain’t looking. But then, some people are only happy when they moan – that’s life.

  • 40 Ian Toon // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:19 PM

    Bobbybee- The voice of reason. It takes time for a manager to integrate players and devise a playing style and system to combat opposition teams. More so when you have to get existing players to adopt practices and principles. Football fans frequently just don’t appreciate what’s actually involved. Progress towards desired change can be slow and punishing.
    I like Macca. The sickening abuse he got during and immediately after his England stint would have broken a lot of people. The way he reserrected his career deserves admiration. Fans often have short memories.
    On Under 21’s good to see us adopting a similar style of play which means players can naturally graduate smoothly with a similar way of playing. That’s very much the Wenger way at Arsenal. I am encouraged by your match comments – that’s why scouts watch in person and not on TV/ you tube if your the poisoned dwarf.

  • 41 Ian Toon // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:21 PM

    Matic and Colback what a combination.

  • 42 Bobbybee // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:32 PM

    Ian, it will take time, but the changes within the club as well as the changes in philosophy and personnel all point to a much better future. Four games in – four really tough games – isn’t the time to be making sweeping statements about relegation ffs. We will, imo, finish well above where we finished the last couple of seasons and next season, I expect us to start challenging. No miracles, just solid hard work that is already starting to show through. The fans applauded the team off after the Arsenal game, because we appreciated the fight shown. Would that have happened last season?

  • 43 Jail for Ashley // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:36 PM

    How on earth is Soton at home a really tough game,
    not an easy game but howay man !

  • 44 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:37 PM

    Bobbybee…Derby plays in the Championship and had some of the most exciting players. Where did they finish again?

    The last part of the season was not exciting one bit!

    The PL is a whole new ball game and we look like we did under Pardew.

    If you cannot see that then you need to consult Ian about specs!

  • 45 the broons // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:37 PM

    Andre Marriner referee for the early kick off, Naismith kicks out at ivanovic and doesn’t even get a warning.

    Apart from that its a brilliant game and thank god prem football is back.

  • 46 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:39 PM

    Afternoon chaps, been a while. Not convinced that much has changed but I do appreciate that it can take a while for a new coach to come in and stamp his authority on the team.

    Signings we made we good, but enough of them simply were not made. We are still 5 players short of where we need to be, and the team around us have all strengthened considerably more than we have. Personally I don’t think McClaren is a bad coach and is undoubtedly a safe pair of hands for the situation we’re in but I’d be amazed if we finish any higher than 12th this season and wouldn’t be surprised if we find ourselves in a bit of a scrap if we’re unlucky with injuries.

    So, it’s much of the same from me – nothing has really changed, nor will it until Mike Ashley leaves the club.

    That’s my two pennies worth if anyone wants them.

    P.S Ian, for the blog resident ‘intellectual’ your spelling is shocking.

  • 47 cyprus // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:40 PM

    That man u coach needs to settle down…

    Hey Carver on TV, with Barnes. Doing well, congrats man.

    Mourinho two weeks from the dole?

  • 48 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:41 PM


  • 49 Bobbybee // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:41 PM

    Jail, because your first game of the season, with new personnel and playing a completely new brand of football is always going to be tough, regardless of the opposition.

  • 50 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:43 PM

    So the first game of the season is always tough for every team, therefore everyone is in the same situation, ergo everyone is on a level playing field…so it’s no more arduous for us as it would be for any other team on the first day of the season. Flawed logic

  • 51 Bobbybee // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:48 PM

    Jesper, we weren’t far off being a Championship club ourselves, and playing football at that level is far from easy. Derby suffered massive injuries before their slump and us bugging Macca didn’t help. Macca was the best we could hope for at the time and a good choice. He’s got three years to do something, not three months.

  • 52 SPRINGY // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:48 PM

    afternoon all
    i was one of the plenty who didnt really want macca to take the over tbh….but then again i could’nt see a so called “better” head coach/manager coming in the way this club was last year….it was a shambles….hes here now and to his credit seems to be tryin to do things the right way….turning things around is’nt ganna happen over night…time and patients is the only thing right we can do….im sure there’ll be players comin in and goin out in jan…once he’s assessed them all

  • 53 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:51 PM

    Under Mike Ashley, McClaren was probably one of the better options under the circumstances. No point really debating it until Ashley leaves, he is, has been, and always remain the biggest hurdle to overcome in order to see the football we all want to see being played at SJP.

  • 54 jane // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:54 PM

    another goal for Charlie Austin, that’s 5 in 6 matches.
    QPR 1-0 up against Forest after 65 mins.

  • 55 SPRINGY // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:56 PM

    imo we are lookin more like a team in these first few matches then at anytime last season…although i believe our sharpness and fitness not quite there yet….ironically playing with ten men for a couple of games may help the fitness of the remaining players that were left on the pitch for them games coz they had to graft there knackers off to compete

  • 56 chewbaccy // Sep 12, 2015 at 1:57 PM

    living on a prayer

  • 57 Bobbybee // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:00 PM

    How is it flawed? We weren’t just any team, we were a team that just escaped relegation and on an all time low, trying to play a completely different style of football under new guidance. Not sure what some people expect, but when you set your bar too high you leave plenty of scope to whine. Now, there’s a though.

  • 58 Bobbybee // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:01 PM

    Thought even.

  • 59 the broons // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:05 PM

    now hes missed a certain indirect freekick decision. kids a nacker.

  • 60 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:05 PM

    Of course it’s flawed. There was nothing particularly tough about the game. Only one of our new players started the game so this team was largely the same one. There was nothing tougher about our first game compared to any other club and to insinuate otherwise is just looking for excuses. I’m not moaning, just pointing out a flaw in your argument.

  • 61 Bobbybee // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:13 PM

    Where did Southampton finish last season compared to us? Yeah, really easy game

  • 62 Jib // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:13 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Phrases like “Flawed logic”

    and a morbid fixation with Mike Ashley being the antichrist tells me you may not be the rare poster you claim to be.

    Bobbybee’s comments exhibited a canny appreciation of NUFC’s situation in August where not only did we have 4 new 1st teamers to bed in but an entirely new coaching staff .

  • 63 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:19 PM

    First off I would just like to say welcome back to Ruddy 🙂

    Ruddy…welcome back mate!


    Bobbybee…you might believe McClaren was the best we could hope for but don’t think for one minute everyone would agree and don’t patronize me for thinking otherwise than your so-called truth.

  • 64 BandB // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:22 PM


    I was rather looking forward to Jib developing that theory.

  • 65 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:26 PM

    Completely missing the point of what I’m saying. I didn’t say it was an easy game, I’m simply saying that it was no more a tougher game than for any other team starting the new season.

    As for the game itself, Southampton aren’t a brilliant team, they are exactly the kind of team that we used to dispense of with ease a few seasons ago. Spurs and Everton are other examples too. An ambitious Newcastle United who compete both on the field and in the transfer market would never consider Southampton at home as a tough game. The fact that some of you do see it as a tough game is a sad indictment of where we are as a football club.

    As far as Mike Ashley is concerned, he has not spent considerable money in comparable terms, and we’re still a lot of players short of where we need to be. It’s a simple fact that will likely play itself out this season.

    Thanks Jesper, thought I’d go back to my old moniker! How you been?

  • 66 Jib // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:26 PM

    Hat trick for Steven Naismith !!!!!!
    Not many can claim that against Chelsea

  • 67 Jib // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:27 PM

    Jose is not a happy bunny
    Also he’s got no medical staff to blame and bully

  • 68 Bobbybee // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:32 PM

    You keep on whining jesper, why change the habit of a lifetime. And putting up a better argument isn’t patronising. But if you feel patronised, it gives you something else to cry about, so I’l? do my best to keep you happy.

  • 69 Mister Tuff // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:32 PM

    Jib Jibberish – you accusing a poster of not being who they claim to be.
    hahahah – what a cheek coming from you.

    To develop a theory I suspect Jib Jibberish may have to consult with “the club insider” -Uncle Peanut.

  • 70 SPRINGY // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:33 PM

    i can only go off the games last season and compare results and situations…..i think im right in saying we got 1 point in the same games last year and 2 points this season..and 2 games this season down to ten men for most of them games….dont know about last year… by game and see how things go for me

  • 71 SPRINGY // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:37 PM

    team for monday lads?

  • 72 toonking // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:38 PM

    just 4 games in, 2 of which were losses caused by in part by an idiotic player getting a red card, we have only got 2 points made so far this season but that is only 1 point less than what we’d have been expected, most would have seen southampton W swansea and manure both L and arsenal likely to be lost.

    any manager brought in at a time of mac is going to find the start of the season difficult, we might know already what the best 11 is but we’ll have saw them last season, he’s only just got to know them, obvious drops like willo are going to be made but he’s only just started to know the team as a whole and could be facing an issue already on weather or not mitrovic is worth risking or even coming off the bench.

    For years now we’ve given cashley huge critism of not buying new players whilst getting rid of the crap and costantly selling them who are great without managing to make a return.

    Throughout the pardew era people were saying the simple act he’d chosen to remain at newcastle whilst under cashley proves he’s just a sh1t manager who can’t get a job. Another way you can describe this still is basically managers who will do rubbish are the only type we’d see and it makes this mac appointment itself seem to be a lucky one really.

  • 73 Munster Mag // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:39 PM

    Bobby you and me tend to be on the same page re nufc. But I don’t think Southampton was a hard start. Not at home. And they shud have beaten us. Also we may have been down to 10 but many other teams would have mustered something on target v arsenal at home. That said, people on here wanted the new Derby mgr as boss but he hasn’t done much either. Patience needed. I don’t think the ajax guy is as hot as a mgr as people think. Annoyingly Leicester and West ham have looked good and none of wud have touched Tinkering. This progress will be slow. I wud like to see us going 442 soon

  • 74 JamesToon // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:39 PM

    I’d go with 4-4-2,
    Janmaat Mbemba Coloccini Haidara
    Thauvin Wijnaldum Anita Aarons
    De Jong Perez

  • 75 Jib // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:40 PM

    That game was a cracker
    Which will be the best of the 3 o’clocks I wonder ?

  • 76 Ian Toon // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:46 PM

    Palace v City!

  • 77 SPRINGY // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:48 PM

    it should be a game we should win..i agree(southampton)..but we’ve drew and been beaten the last 2 seasons against them at home and they had a few more games then us fitness wise this season so was a little harder in my eyes then some would think it should of been…maybe in the future it will be a game we look at and good chance 3 points there….cant see us goin 442 mate…take a brave manager/head coach to do these days….its always 4231 or 433…or some variation of that…2strikers on the pitch up front would b nice to see like

  • 78 ilovetoon8788 // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:50 PM

    palace and city will be intriguiing to watch!!

  • 79 SPRINGY // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:51 PM

    brave-man!….would like to see it….would leave out aarons play thauvin left and sissoko right

  • 80 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2015 at 2:52 PM

    The likes of Everton, Swansea, Southampton, Stoke, Leicester and perhaps even West Ham and Palace are all going to finish above us this season I reckon. If we consider the top 6 as standard that means we’re looking at 14th at best.

    We could potentially finish above 2, maybe even 3, of these teams. But even with that we’d be looking at 11th at best.

    I’m curious as to why people are excited for this season? Unless we’ve got a decent cup run we’ll be looking at the same old shit again this season.

  • 81 toonking // Sep 12, 2015 at 3:00 PM

    What most of us seem to forget is we were actually playing championship football just 6 seasons ago, think of west brom- west brom v southampton, swansea v west brom, manure v west brom west brom v arsenal. of those i can see 3 losses and 1 win given by most people, this team itself has remained in the premier league since and are still battling relegation themselve.

    It might sound stupid to use west brom as a team to compare to ourselve but all that we can have to give ourselves reason to be higher can become lost when comparing the amount of anger between fans and owners of newcastle compared to them.

  • 82 Ravostag // Sep 12, 2015 at 9:09 PM

    I was at the Mansfield v Crawley game today and despite Crawley losing 4-0 Freddie Woodman was not at fault for any of the goals. Indeed playing in front of the Crawley back four should put him in good stead when he makes the Toon side as both defences have great similarities, poor down the middle and also down the wings. He looked confident for such a young lad and his kicking and handling was excellent

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