Disappointing – Two Bad Goals – Players Should Be Worried


After the game last night in which Newcastle were never really in it. Steve McClaren was interviewed on nufcTV, and the Newcastle head coach was disappointed with the performance and the fact that we were not anywhere near as good as in some of our previous games.

As Steve says it’s often two or three steps forward and two or three steps back, in terms of progress, at the moment.

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A stressed looking Steve McClaren on the touchline last night

This is some of what McClaren told nufc TV immediately following the game:

“Very disappointing – a bit of a wake-up call – we cannot come into the game in this Premier League, away from home and not be 100%, and we were not 100%.

“What we’ve been doing for four games in terms of the basics and the platform, and being hard to beat, and organized discipline – we weren’t tonight.”

“We can make an excuse about the travel getting here late –  disappointed they didn’t give us extra time to get ready – and you are 1-0 down after 10 minutes – and it’s a bit of a struggle from then on.”

“We kept plugging away and kept going, but no, as I say, what we’ve been doing for 4 games – and we tried to build on that.”

“It’s kind of two or three steps forward and two or three steps back at the moment.”  “And it’s going to be like that – these players are new to the Premier League, new to the intensity – I think you saw that in some of them tonight.”

“Technically not up to our normal standards, we need now a reaction on Saturday, it has gone, it’s dead, we can make excuses but we don’t want to do that – no excuses Saturday.”

“We have to give a reaction and St. James’ has to be a fortress and a difficult place for Watford to come and play.” 

“Well after that performance, anyone could be a bit worried, but we will have to regroup.” “We have done well for four games, albeit not scored goals and not looked like scoring goals.”

“Tonight, we have kind of done exactly the same – but conceded two bad goals.”

We certainly do need a reaction on Saturday against Watford , and we hope to see the lads go all out from the very first whistle – a win in that game will relieve the pressure on everybody at the club.

We shouldn’t overreact to this poor performance – although it’s tempting to do just that.

Newcastle need a win on Saturday against newly promoted Watford.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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78 comments so far

  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Sep 15, 2015 at 8:39 PM

    Comment #1

    I wish there was more clarity with Carrs role but it cant be denied he has recommended some total shite in the last few seasons! We can say maybe he did not get the top of his lists but a lot of them still were bought for decent money while other teams seemed to have got much better options than us !

    We signed Riviere and Cabella but could have had any number of decent player for similar money last season some with premiership experience I mean Swansea got Montero for 3 million last season ! He has serious pace which is why he does well in the premiership

    Cresswell was available for 4 million what a left back he is!! Why were we not anywhere for him ? Sakho for West Ham was also 3.5 million that would have been 3 players built for the premiership cheaper than Thauvin!

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 15, 2015 at 8:41 PM

    Comment #2

    Ashley Out!

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  • BandB

    Sep 15, 2015 at 8:49 PM

    Comment #3

    angels,

    Angels and MFH were before me time.
    Even the lovely Yo-Yo has been gone a long time.
    Were you not also that chap last year who knew a lot about the Rangers situation.
    He and Overtheline seemed very similar…

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 15, 2015 at 8:50 PM

    Comment #4

    Every club has it’s fairly high churn of duds, we’re no exception. If Carr is suggesting poor choices, then it’s not him. it’s the guy hiring him who hasn’t got a clue. He should have sussed him by now. If they’re not duds and the coaching team aren’t using them properly that’s another issue. I think it’s a fairly even combo. They’re all middling to reasonably incompetent and need to shake up.

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  • BandB

    Sep 15, 2015 at 8:53 PM

    Comment #5

    Hasn’t the club explained several times that Carr draws up a list he’s scouted and that Llambias, Kinnear and then Penfold did the wheeler -dealing, before Ashley signed the cheque…or not.
    I’ve heard it said many times around the club that Ashley is a bit more relaxed about transfer fees than he is about breaking his hard-won pay and bonuses structure.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 15, 2015 at 8:56 PM

    Comment #6

    I thought we weren’t using the bus break down as an excuse, or can we now, have the internal bureau of excuses cleared it. I wonder who’s in that department, or is it all three of them, McLaren hasn’t got a free reign yet in the excuse department.

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  • GeordieTwo

    Sep 15, 2015 at 8:57 PM

    Comment #7

    What the club needs now is credibility for the supporters. Surely that starts with a good performance and a win against Watford at home. If the team plays poorly again at home it could be very difficult for Steve going forward. As it stands we deserve to be 20th based on most of our performances. Sad and pathetic. Ashley should be ashamed but will probably laugh it off.

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Sep 15, 2015 at 8:58 PM

    Comment #8

    I think Ashley is probably horrified at how much footballers get in wages for essentially doing nothing

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  • beefman13

    Sep 15, 2015 at 8:58 PM

    Comment #9

    Mr Mac let’s not get carried away with how well we have played so far, even wi players sent off, we were well second best b4 each sending off, We escaped against Southampton.

    Our players still look like they haven’t a clue what they are going to do when they get the ball, it’s all on instinct, one game at a time Mr Mclaren, up to now it’s totally average C

    Bin those two in central midfield, they work gard but no presence at all, we are easy meat, not another team in the Premiership will fear us its as simple as that.

    Watford has to be a must win, play our most attack minded team, go for it, one thing is for sure Watford won’t be quaking in their boots.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:01 PM

    Comment #10

    BandB…But now he’s a board member!

    Lee Charnley…There will always be singings that are under the radar of other clubs, you can’t catch every good deal out there. Carr has found his fair share, in my opinion. Of course there have been some duds too, just like at other clubs.

    Someone mentioned Michu over at Swansea recently. Had a great season and was the signing of the season (as far as buying cheap unknowns / overseas players). Thought we had missed out, but now, not so much.

    There has to be an element of swings and roundabouts with scouting. They can’t get them right all the time. It’s when they stop finding them you really need to worry. Some may well argue he’s not finding any at all. I would respectfully disagree.

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  • angelswithdirtyfaces

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:02 PM

    Comment #11

    B&B

    Yes I live in Scotland.

    Agree entirely that the entire Toon Board structure is a red herring.

    but I’ll take issue with the contention that:-
    “In a normal company, the board answers to the shareholders”
    In theory, yes but these days the shareholders are secondary to the remuneration committees for CEO, etc., as the technocracy is very much self serving in practice.
    As the man said “The salary of the chief executive of a large corporation is not a market award for achievement. It is frequently in the nature of a warm personal gesture by the individual to himself.”
    That’s enuff organisational politics for one day !!

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  • BandB

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:09 PM

    Comment #12

    Ibizatoon,

    I believe Wijnaldum was a coup for us…a real upping of the ante and its even possible we paid over the odds to get him….we seem certainly to have met an asking price that was an Ashley era club record.
    He scored a goal on his debut its hard to imagine anyone who has played for us for years to bust such a gut to score. He has played with a smile.
    If he is a disaffected, confused, going through the motions young man in a year from now, on the receiving end of snippy comments from the manager, it won’t be Carr’s fault.

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  • GeordieTwo

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:22 PM

    Comment #13

    A win against Watford is essential for McLaren now. The bigger the score the better. Get on top of them from the off. This start should show Ashley what happens when you sit on your hands for several windows and don’t clear the dead wood. What on earth is Saylor still doing at the club? Mr. Glass. Cowardly behavior from Ashley from the off. Hide, hire fools, make excuses, then hide some more.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:25 PM

    Comment #14

    BandB
    I’m not sure of Sissokos position either, I don’t think they cared when they managed to get him for £2.2M either.

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  • GeordieTwo

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:26 PM

    Comment #15

    Possible excuses from Ashley that he hasn’t used yet:
    1. I was in a coma for several years. I came to in late 2014 and somebody told me my football club was a disgrace. Of course I can accept no personal blame.
    2. I’ve been having a terrible time for several years now. Somebody keeps pooping in my wellies. It’s unacceptable is what it is. I may have to resort to harsh language….

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  • GeordieTwo

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:30 PM

    Comment #16

    Your credibility is on the line now Steve. Take some deep breaths and get stuck in.

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  • GeordieTwo

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:33 PM

    Comment #17

    Come to work wearing your Thong of Grim Determination Steve. Get the respect back.

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  • GeordieTwo

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:35 PM

    Comment #18

    Possibly later in the season Ashley will need to get Johnny C. back to restore us to our normal position of 17th? I’m sure Mike is exploring the possibilities now while staying at the Johnny C. Spa.

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  • Munster Mag

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    Comment #19

    Lee Charney…good post. It was always unlikely that capella would succeed given his physique. Carr likes stylish ball player but many are not athletic enough.every scout is handicapped by finance but this guy is deciding how we play football and who should be in the squad. In Carr we trust? My arse.

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  • GeordieTwo

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    Comment #20

    Predictions for the Watford match? Approach this with extreme seriosity mates. I want to see some realistic scores. None of this 11-11 malarkey. Harrumph…..

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  • angelswithdirtyfaces

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    Comment #21

    If Wini or any other player – new or established, is seriously disaffected enough to be just going through the motions in 12 months he’ll have picked up some strange virus or TSPD – Toon Players Stress Disorder.

    Certainly won’t be Carr’s direct fault but he’s senior enough to be implicated, assuming there is any collective responsibility at SJP

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  • toon kk

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:39 PM

    Comment #22

    Lee @1
    I totally agree, our two downfalls have been either not buying when we need to or wasting millions when we do on the wrong players. Why people can’t see we are badly short of power and pace is beyond me.

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  • gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola)

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:44 PM

    Comment #23

    NUFC 1 Watford 3

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  • GeordieTwo

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:48 PM

    Comment #24

    Ahhhh!!! Gorgonzola mate, is that the best you can do for us??? I mean couldn’t you manage a second goal to us? Possibly the Watford players get bored in the second half like the Hammers did and slip up somewhere?

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  • jane

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:50 PM

    Comment #25

    “NUFC 1 Watford 3”

    we haven’t conceded 3 in any game, is that a positive?

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  • Munster Mag

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:52 PM

    Comment #26

    Gorgonzola u wanted us relegated last night so u can piss off

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  • gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola)

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:52 PM

    Comment #27

    I have no words how badly we played yesterday.

    Pardew’s dross pails in comparison. It was one of the worst displays I have seen. Toothless, no imagination in creating chances, horrid going “forward”.

    50 million plus wasted. No pace going forward. Thauvin was afraid. Janmaat poor. Headier should be sold, bad forwards pathetic backwards can’t cross, can’t pass. Not a footballer.

    I truly battle to see any positives. Perez was a gasp of air but lasted 15 minutes.

    Do not be fooled relegation battle for sure entire year.

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  • gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola)

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:54 PM

    Comment #28

    GeordieTwo

    Maybe mate. Who knows.

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  • GeordieTwo

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:54 PM

    Comment #29

    I’m polishing the old crystal globe right now. Hmmm. Looks like a bit of bad weather, rain, followed by sleet. A flash of lightning and I see Watford scoring first!!! Now it’s clouding over again. McLaren has his brolly oot. The tying goal by Sissoko! This is much more exciting than the real games. Late in the second half now and Colo slips leaving Troy Deeney to go in on goal. A tremendous diving stop by Krul!!!! A 1-1 draw. Beautiful.

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  • Jib

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:55 PM

    Comment #30

    Well said B and B

    I really like the cut of Wijnaldums jib he’s a good guy and a great footballer – stands up to be counted and has a real headpiece on him.
    Eleven of him and we’d have no problems.

    Does anybody else find Geordie 2 really tiresome and a bit silly ?

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  • GeordieTwo

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:58 PM

    Comment #31

    It’s funny you should mention that Jib/Jane/Jeff. Actually, no it isn’t. It matches much of your usual drivel.

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:59 PM

    Comment #32

    I think Watford will win against us on Saturday, they would of no doubt been studying us and the way we have been playing.

    All they need to do is press high and chase the ball when not in possession OR just counter attack us.

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  • GeordieTwo

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:59 PM

    Comment #33

    I think we can hold them to 2 at most gorgonzola mate. In fact I’m going to stick with my 1-1 draw prediction. Exciting times these. Soon we could have 3 points!!!

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  • Marty-Toon

    Sep 15, 2015 at 9:59 PM

    Comment #34

    Colback has been horrible from the first day of the season,shouldn`even be on the bench at the moment and yet probably first name on the sheet.
    Obertan although i`m not a real fan actually started well this season and has pace on and off the ball.
    Surely we should have a midfield of Sissoko,Obertan,Aarons/Thauvin and Wijnaldum With De jong sitting behind Ayoze

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  • gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola)

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:00 PM

    Comment #35

    We have had an issue with no pace for quite a while.

    And yet the players that have bees scouted mind you. Have not been brought in because they did not fit our evaluation.

    Well how does bottom of league sound as a good evaluation?
    Anyhow, until we start brining in players with a higher wage bill, not sure we can compete with many teams.

    West Ham, Swansea, Southampton, and a few more are MILES away from us never mind the likes of Chelski, Manure, City, Arsenal, Spuds, etc.

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  • GeordieTwo

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:01 PM

    Comment #36

    Or they could just play their normal game Nezza mate. We’ll give them the midfield and only press in our own half. Very clever strategy from Steve.

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:03 PM

    Comment #37

    GeordieTwo

    Aye mate lol

    We seem to do every team a favour but never do ourself a favour.

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  • Jib

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:04 PM

    Comment #38

    Geordie 2
    I think if Uncle Ed was to use some of his IBM software he would find the biggest post killer on this blog is you .
    Never mind if Canadians didn’t exist.
    We’d have to invent them.
    😎

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  • gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola)

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:05 PM

    Comment #39

    Marty-Toon

    +1

    our CM has been not existing for quite a while. We actually need a new CM.

    Anita is weak cannot pass ball longer than 5 m, easily hustled, not great with ball.

    Coleback +1 plus earns yellows, and very slow.

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:05 PM

    Comment #40

    gorgonzola

    We can’t really compare SM style to Pardew considering when was the last time Pardew had Newcastle with more possession than the opposition?

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