What We Learned Last Night – What McClaren Can Do


It was not a good performance last night and the 2-0 defeat at WEst Ham was just enough to see us go rock bottom of the league table below Stoke City and Sunderland.

Newcastle now have one less point this season than we had last season at this point.

We have only two points – two draws and three defeats from the five league games played.

ayoze perez at west ham 2-0

Ayoze Perez last night – good sub appearance

Here are five things we learned from what we saw last night, and some of the things maybe Steve McClaren and the coaching staff can do for Saturday’s home game against Watford.

  • Newcastle’s defense is still gelling and the two goals we conceded last night were poor ones – especially the second goal, when we were caught short at the back.
    That happened too many times last season, and it was poor especially when their fast breakaway came from a set play – a Florian Thauvin free kick into their penalty box.
  • It will take some time to gel – and that’s a worry, but that happens when you bring in players from the continent who have never played in the Premier League before.
    Newcastle brought in four good players – but it will take them time to adjust to football in England – and that’s a concern with the example last season that Remy Cabella couldn’t adjust to football in England.
  • Papiss Cisse is not a good striker when he has to play up front on his own, He is not big and physical and tends to get lost in games when he is the lone striker.
    What may work is a Mitrovic Cisse partnership once the Serbian is back.
  • We haven’t seemed to solve our inability to score goals and be a threat in the final third of the field even though we now have Mitrovic, Wijnaldum, de Jong and Aarons available.
    Newcastle did attack on the second half and with a more cutting edge may have been able to get back into the game. But we weren’t good enough.
  • Other players deserve a chance to start against Watford on Saturday and there were decent performances last night from subs Siem de Jong and Ayoze Perez.
    Siem almost scored but the Hammers goalkeeper tipped his shot over the bar. Ayoze Perez looked what he is – a good up and coming striker for the club.
    Perez deserves a chance on Saturday.
    Rolando Aarons is another who has shown he can both create and score goals for Newcastle when given his chance.
    Those are two things we need desperately at the moment.

Steve McClaren is an experienced coach and he has faced adversity many times before in football – we hope he can make the necessary changes that will get us the win on Saturday afternoon.

That’s what we need.

What do you think McClaren should do for Saturday’s game at home to Watford.

Comments welcome.


51 comments so far

  • Ibizatoon

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #1

    Morning all,

    Well, definitely not the result, nor performance many were hoping / expecting.

    On Sunday I was asking about Steve’s long term plan for the team and whether people would be more willing to give him time, if it looked like he was trying to do something different.

    For me, once the subs were made, and despite us still being fairly toothless in the final third, I saw great improvement once Perez and Siem came on. Actually gave me some hope.

    I’m sure it’s been well covered, but Cisse….wtf. I’d have had him off at HT. It might not be his fault, he’s a certain type of striker and isn’t getting the service, but he cannot play within this current team. He’s completely wasted, it was almost the same as another red card.

    Thought Perez was really lively. Needs to playing more without a doubt.

    As for Taylor – Who’d have thought it? Expect Yo of course, spectacular prediction there. Long live the King!

    Morning all,

    Well, definitely not the result, nor performance many were hoping / expecting.

    On Sunday I was asking about Steve’s long term plan for the team and whether people would be more willing to give him time, if it looked like he was trying to do something different.

    For me, once the subs were made, and despite us still being fairly toothless in the final third, I saw great improvement once Perez and Siem came on. Actually gave me some hope.

    I’m sure it’s been well covered, but Cisse….wtf. I’d have had him off at HT. It might not be his fault, he’s a certain type of striker and isn’t getting the service, but he cannot play within this current team. He’s completely wasted, it was almost the same as another red card.

    Thought Perez was really lively. Needs to playing more without a doubt.

    As for Taylor – Who’d have thought it? Expect Yo of course, spectacular prediction there. Long live the King!

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  • Ibizatoon

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #2

    What, only twice?

    Whoops…apologies!

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  • Tinman

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #3

    @Ibiza,

    Perez could be fantastic. If the end product starts coming consistently then he will be one hell of a player. He reminds me of Solano in the way it looks like the ball is stuck to his foot with glue, his close control is fantastic. That moment where he turned 3 West Ham midfielders inside out is just the kind of skill in the side we have been lacking.

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  • Tinman

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #4

    @Ibiza, very thorough post 😉

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  • toonbrother

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #5

    if McLaren follows your advice we will have ZERO wins in 6 games and STILL be bottom come saturday

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  • Ibizatoon

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #6

    Tinman…Time and time again he occupied several West Ham players at a time. If only the rest of the team could utilise the free space better.

    The lad is still young and I hope he continues to progress. An exciting talent and a great attitude.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #7

    On a seperate matter, anyone else impressed by Colo?

    Never seen him play better….

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  • Slank

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #8

    Ed, your second point is not really valid. Virtually all clubs have brought in foreign players not least West Ham.

    If the players are not gelling it’s possibly because the role they are told to play by the coaches is confusing or alien or not suitable for their skills.

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  • Jib

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #9

    Worryingly 8-(

    I agree with every word Ibiza says

    Did I read toonbrother aright is the idiot blaming Colo for West Hams goals ?

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  • Jib

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #10

    🙁 Worryingly

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  • Tinman

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #11

    @Ibiza,

    Yeah, he really could turn into a star. He needs to be getting games in this team.

    I think Collo has been playing well, still looks weak but I thought he looks slightly faster than he has done the last couple of seasons. I think him and Mbemba will do ‘ok’ this season.

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  • Tinman

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #12

    I see that most people voted Janmaat for Man of Match last night. For me very misguided. He was on the ball a lot, but what did he actually do?

    – Missed a sitter at 1-0. And before someone says it, he could have let it run to his right foot.
    – Tried to shoot through 5 West Ham players with his left, from outside of the box, instead of chipping it into the back post where we had 3 men. It was after a corner.
    – Can’t remember a cross which caused any danger.

    Yes he was decent, but he was far from great. Lots of room for improvement.

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  • DaraghL

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #13

    Jail for Ashley / Toonbrother –

    Just saw Toonbrother’s post.

    Under no circumstances should JFA a) be paying anything yet or b) be paying to a charity of Toonbrother’s choice.

    The bet, which I had also offered to meet; however was not called upon, still happy to sign up to it, was “Newcastle will not win another match with Colocinni in the side”.

    JFA agreed to that bet and proposed that the loser pays the sum of £100 to the SBR foundation.

    After JFA offered this you reneged on your previous ludicrous statement and stated it should only be the first 5 games.

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #14

    Slank
    I don’t think it is the players not Gelling. Looked like last night they did not care no passion no leader on the pitch – As long as we get paid – oh we will turn up run around.
    Did you see anyone encouraging the players shouting – Nothing
    There seems to be some kind of malaise in the club – just turn up and play – need a Joey Barton, Kevin Nolan, Alan Smith type of player to give them a kick.

    Got to change tactics team 1 up front – does not work for the TOON.

    lowest scorers in the four divisions – well on the way to be the last team to win a game at the start of a season.

    Been here before – last season

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  • yorkymag

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #15

    We learned that McClaren is no better than Pardew
    In fact he is identical just a more acceptable style without the arrogance of Mr P
    However he is tactically just as bad
    Wrong formation ,wrong players and players out of position sound familiar

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  • Jib

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #16

    Tinman you may not remember a decent cross but there was some really sweet long through balls from young (if he is 20) Chancel

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  • DaraghL

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #17

    Tinman –

    I think he got the vote not neccessarily on merit but on best of the worst. He looked to have a bit of endeavour about him. I can’t think of anyone else who deserved it ahead of him, can you?

    Really think a performance like that does not warrant a MOTM award unless we can vote for Payet. Considering how much time/money we have pumped into France, how have we not signed him?

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  • Ibizatoon

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #18

    Tinman…Ignore my Colo comment, it was more of a blog grenade 🙂

    I’d have no problem seeing Colo go. Never been a big critic of his, but without doubt, his best days are behind him (really goes without saying).

    On Janmaat, over the 90, he was our best player (imo). Thought Perez was really good (obviously, we’ve covered that), but wasn’t on very long.

    Jib…Nothing to fear. It turns out, that you may not like someone, or agree with a lot of what they say, but that doesn’t mean that you wont agree on anything or that the person is an idiot.

    Who knows, in time, you may start trying to be reasonable with people. But one step at a time.

    Out of interest, and this isn’t a dig, how on Earth did you find that comment from WWSBRD? Credit where it’s due, a decent find.

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  • Tinman

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #19

    @Jib,

    Actually I remember one ball from Mbemba which was curled to left corner of their box, was sublime. I thought he had a good game. Except for his little foray at the end, but the team had all given up by then.

    @DaraghL,
    Yep, I understand that too pal. I thought Payet looked a class above last night. I voted for Perez as my MoM personally, but it’s true there wasn’t much choice.

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  • Slank

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #20

    Tinman

    I believe Perez would make a wonderful central midfield player.

    He has, as you rightly say, fantastic close ball control together with sufficient pace to elude opponents but is not afraid to hound, harris and tackle. He also has an excellent eye for goal. He is the nearest thing we have to Cabaye.

    I believe a midfield of Tiote, Gini, De Jong and Perez would work. Gini is always going to bomb forward and join the attack. De Jong is a clever player who will vary the play. Perez can take the ball in midfield and with his close ball control create space for himself and others. Tiote would be the enforcer.

    I would play a 4-4-2 with Mitrovic and either Thauvin or Aarons on the wing.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #21

    I see what you mean Jib, it is a little uneasy.

    Some lovely balls in from the old man Chancel. A few rallying calls too from the lad.

    Charlie…I’m finding it hard to be optimistic as it does appear that we’re simply still trying to make work what didn’t work before.

    Where are these new ideas? Pass and move? We saw Pardew attempt this in patches too. I’m far from convinced, even if it is just 5 games in.

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  • Jib

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #22

    Ibiza
    In my other life they call me Colombo

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  • Fostino

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #23

    neville is spot on about newcastle last night. colback and anita are too definsive and simply not good enough for creating chances. ive been thinking this a very long time. de jong..perez..rolando must be fitted in

    krul, janmaat, mbemba, colo, haidira (why did we sell snaton, we need dummett back), thauvin, sisooko, wini, rolando, de jong, perez

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  • Jib

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #24

    😎

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  • Tinman

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #25

    I can never understand people trawling through this blog to find somebodies older post to make a point. Opinions change and teams change, that’s life.

    I for one used to say Cisse will start scoring given the service and that Tiote will recapture his form.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #26

    Jib…It’s a shame what they call you in this one.

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  • Tinman

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #27

    @Slank

    I thought Perez was our best player v United for similar reasons. I honestly feel without him in the team we would have lost that day. He was always available, never lost the ball and won loads of free kicks for us.

    With him in the team we probably gained an extra 5% possession that day (theoretical of course). Saw much of the same from him last night. If you don’t have the ball you can’t score

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  • Ibizatoon

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #28

    Fostino…I think Hairara is getting better and better. Still young and defensively he’s no worse than Santon. Not sure he’s any worse going forward either.

    However, I don’t know why we sold Santon either. Not like we got much for him.

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  • optimistic prime

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #29

    Morning chaps

    Haven’t bothered posting much lately, didn’t see the point as I was bored with reading how great Ashley and the Window was.

    I don’t think the window was that great and a few from last season are dragging the new players down. We may have spent more money but as was said on sky more than once lady night NUFC lack quality.

    We have no urgency and no playmaker, our midfield couldn’t find space if they where on the moon. Personally id drop Sissoko and get SDJ in the no10.

    Hopefully Schteeve can find another 20% out the players otherwise my prediction of twelfth could end up being eighteenth

    Ashley out!

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  • Jib

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #30

    I’ve heard of Ladies day at Ascot

    and

    Ladies of the night

    but lady night is new one for me

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  • Ibizatoon

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #31

    Hi OP,

    What we did in the window was good. As people keep saying, they got in good quality, but it wasn’t enough.

    Buying extra quality is good for that little push on, but we were in a terrible situation, and so far, it doesn’t appear we’ve done enough.

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  • yorkymag

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #32

    What we learnt was that Mcca is no better than pardew
    Just a slightly more acceptable less arrogant version
    But with the same lack of tactical ability
    Wrong selection ,wrong tactics, players in the wrong position sound familiar
    It’s probably worse than last year in many ways but a team that can’t score goals is in deep trouble

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  • the broons

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #34

    How the hell did janmaat get man of the match! you deluded bunch of idiots.

    Ahh what because he was the closest we came to a goal he must have been our best player, NO! He’s a defender for christ sake needs to know how to defend not get skinned 24/7.

    If that was Willamson out there who put that performance in people would be riping him to shreds, but yous are so blinkered that yous actually think he was our best player!? unbelievable, I must not know how football works anymore.

    By the way our best player by an abseloute mile was mbemba yet again.

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  • toon kk

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #35

    Or ffs need time to gel! Can no one see, we haven’t got a top striker not one, we have very little pace, mainly light weights used to the French style. Lack quality all over the pitch, I’ve said it for a long time we are poor.
    Our scouting just looks for little trickster players with no pace. Talk about wasting money.

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  • the broons

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #36

    yorkymag

    he put all his eggs in one basket with Mitrovic who by the way will score a lot more than Cisse but we will struggle the games without him.

    Simple thing to do is put wiijnaldum deeper instead of colback and Dejong in the second striker role and Perez in for Cisse.

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  • yorkymag

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #37

    toon ok

    Spot on

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  • yorkymag

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #38

    Browns
    Agree but you and I can see it why not a supposed top coaching team ffs

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  • the broons

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #39

    toon kk

    I refuse to believe that Carr watched Marsielle and thought the player we should buy was Thauvin. Payet is miles better and I don’t care about this need time to gel. A young lad with the ego he apparently has, everytime he picked up the ball he looked petrified. He is by far the biggest flop of our signings.

    Can’t wait for when Mitrovic proves all the doubters wrong.

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  • solano

    Sep 15, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #40

    I note quite a few are targeting Cisse as the latest scapoat (yes, he was poo lastnight, as were 7 or 8 others btw) which feeds into the accepted media cliche (always some element of truth in those!) that NUFC fans are an ungrateful bunch of morons.
    Be thankful that the Senegalese forward has kept us up for the past 2 seasons when we deserved to be relegated. It is well known, he doesn’t want to be here, nor do the powers that be want to reatin him. The fact is he has so many faults to his game, he cannot play upfront alone. But he does score goals as his record shows.
    His probable exit in January will herald the arrival of Austin and no doubt we will be on the crest of yet another new era and writing this campaign off by looking forward to the next two seasons of rebuilding (whilst renewing overpriced season tickets).
    It’s laughable how so many refuse to see tyhe reality of a sham of a club and realise that what they support is nothing but a shell. Don’t be thankful for Big Mike spending ome of YOUR cash and lining his own pockets in the process.

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