lt’s Far Too Early To Be So Negative About Newcastle

After our very poor showing on Monday night – after two good performances in the previous two league game at Manchester United and at home to Arsenal, when we fought hard for 74 minutes with 10 men.

It’s not too surprising that Newcastle fans are worried about this season, after the disaster that took place earlier this year under John Carver but hey – it’s not time to assume Newcastle will be relegated this season.

That’s just ridiculous – it’s one game and we didn’t play well and we deserved to be beaten.

andy cole at newcastle

Andy Cole – while at Newcastle

Andy Cole played for us for only two years from early February, 1993 through January 1995, when he scored 68 goals in 85 appearances for the club.

He was unbelievable when he played for Newcastle.

He was then famously sold to Manchester United for £7M – £6 in cash plus the £1M million-rated Keith Gillespie in part exchange.

Andy has over-done the negative aspects of Newcastle in his column for Yahoo Sport:

“I was at a good club – Newcastle – with a good manager Kevin Keegan and a good chairman, Sir John Hall.” “They knew the area and understood it, they got Tyneside buzzing.”

“Steve McClaren shares this trait, though his ultimate boss Mike Ashley had been a disappointment who has antagonized fans with penny-pinching and a lack of ambition.”

“He’s a very successful businessman, but he’s not a very successful club owner.” “But let’s not forget that he’s also a rarity in the Premier League.”

“He’s a self-made English owner who can’t be expected to compete with foreign oligarchies and sovereign wealth funds by selling trainers from warehouses on the edge of British cities.”

“Steve will set his teams up with a system which will work but while I have faith in his talents, I fear that Newcastle are in for a long, tough season.”

“Now bottom of the table without a win in five and with only two goals, Newcastle are struggling.”

“I watched them at West Ham on Monday and they created nothing and didn’t work the opposing goalkeeper.”

“That’s West Ham, not Chelsea or Manchester City who they’ll meet after playing at home to promoted Watford on Saturday.

“That is already a must win because sadly, despite spending £47million, they look little different from last season.”

We should remind Andy that we took a point at Old Trafford and could have even won that game in stoppage time.

My goodness,  all that negative stuff – and we’ve played only five games.

In fact Andy’s views are so negative – I feel like I’ve just watched the evening news on TV!

If we beat Watford we’ll have 5 points from the first six games.

I know negative news is good news for journalists, because it helps sell stuff – but that’s just a little over the top from the former great Newcastle striker.

We’ve spent £52M net this summer and have brought in four decent players – that’s more than we’ve spent in any transfer window the eight years under Mike Ashley – by a long way.

While we have made a worse start than last season, but talk about relegation now in mid-September is both premature and ridiculous.

It’s true we are not in a good position at the moment but hey – there’s 33 league games left to play – 99 points to play for.

We are not ready to give up on Newcastle United.

Comments welcome.

33 comments so far

  • Spotlight Kid

    Sep 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM

    Comment #1

    “That is already a must win because sadly, despite spending £47million, they look little different from last season.”

    But Andy surely has a valid point? As managers tend to trot out at the least excuse, ‘the table never lies’.

  • Toon Tang

    Sep 16, 2015 at 11:33 PM

    Comment #2

    Ahh the Andy Cole days…

    Many a top Saturday was had to the sound of the ‘Andy Andy Cole’ chant ringing out after he’d bagged yet another goal. The Glory days without actually winning anything. Tear to the eye..

  • croftus5678

    Sep 16, 2015 at 11:34 PM

    Comment #3

    out of the 5 games so far i would have guessed at 4-5 points so we slightly under performed.

    i’m no critic though and must say most of the time maccas team’s was 90% to what i would have picked myself and the clubs signings exceeded my expectations so i aint going to call the club for not showing ambition ect as tbh i was and still am very very happy with our squad and signings/coaching/manager ect ect.

    2 games we had a player sent off rightly or wrongly so we couldnt really expect a result from them esp so early on.

    i hope they click soon as we certainly have the quality of a mid table team atleast now it just needs that balance and understanding of what they should do imo.

  • Toon Tang

    Sep 16, 2015 at 11:36 PM

    Comment #4

    Ps. Ive still got that shirt but the short sleeve one in my wardrobe next to the Srnicek multicolour triangle goalie top. Bloody loved them Asics tops with the Broon star. When we were a genuine club/team.

  • 2_goal_tino

    Sep 16, 2015 at 11:39 PM

    Comment #5

    For me our problem at the moment is connecting the midfield and attack. I’d like to see Wijnaldum moved back and De Jong brought in. Wijnaldum has the ability to be a box to box midfielder and De Jong can contribute creativity and goals. Perez up top for now until the walking red card machine is back. Even when he is back for me Perez has to start… whether upfront or on the wings… I don’t care if it is at the expense of sissoko or one of our summer signings. He is pretty much our most creative player who works tirelessly!!!

  • blew

    Sep 16, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    Comment #6

    You say relegation talk so soon is ridiculous, but
    the Bookies don’t think so. And this early the league
    title is there for Man City to lose.
    You cant win matches if you fail to score, who is going
    to do that? And who will provide the passes?
    The club is a disaster and I dont blame McClaren for that, he obeys orders.

  • Tsunki

    Sep 16, 2015 at 11:59 PM

    Comment #7

    Too early by far for doom mongering and gloom far far too early.

    Ashley Out!

  • jimmysmith

    Sep 17, 2015 at 12:33 AM

    Comment #8

    The club need to take a look at De Jong now for his leadership, attacking link up play and goals. Cisse can’t play alongside another, but may fire with De Jong in the hole and with Perez and Thauvin outside, both capable of creating and scoring, and Sissoko alongside Wdjnaldum behind DeJong both capable of driving forward and chipping in with creativity and goals. The attacking threat is there, but McClaren has not unreasonably focussed on shoring up the defence, particularly to contend with the tough start, but surely we now will look to open it up and use the attacking talent we do have,

  • WestOzMag

    Sep 17, 2015 at 12:34 AM

    Comment #9

    Time to be negative you mean. The table doesn’t lie. Were the worst team, we play 1 up front, we cnt score, manager is avg at best “proven record” in England says it all. Loose to Watford and ill soon ask who is positive

  • Mister Tuff

    Sep 17, 2015 at 12:44 AM

    Comment #10

    magscar – I find it surprising that even though I have not engaged with you at all for some time – and you being so self righteous – that you found it necessary to have a pop at me in the last thread for no apparent reason.
    Can only be my stand against multiples and tricksters taking the p out of fellow bloggers.

  • Derek

    Sep 17, 2015 at 12:54 AM

    Comment #11

    What about “it’s far too early to be positive”??

    Everyone is well aware that things were terrible last season. The AshleyOut protests were well warranted by the poor performance, coach and actions in transfer market.

    So Ashley comes out with his little talk, some extra money to buy a few profitable players who so far have performed below well expectations, and a new manager who is trying his hardest but still has not won a game.

    There are no grounds to turn everything around and be positive until the team starts producing positive results.

  • sickandtired

    Sep 17, 2015 at 1:04 AM

    Comment #12

    Ed – you need to get your head out of yer arse. The Club, and the system in place, is an utter failure. You can keep shouting about the ‘sack Pardew crowd’ all you like, but the inherent fault is Ashley and his cronies who do as he bids. Schteeve has joined the ranks of them and did so when he signed the dotted line in clear understanding of how things work here (or don’t!).
    Pardew by the way, has joined a club who allow him to be a manager and have backed him with money to sign who he wishes. What an idea that is!

  • Graeme

    Sep 17, 2015 at 1:05 AM

    Comment #13

    Some facts from the Chronicle!!

    Points per Game in 2015 = 0.625. In case you’re wondering, thats 24 points in a full season.

    Total wins since January 1st 2014 = 15

    The odds on both scum AND Newcastle being relegates? A princely 4/1
    The vultures are circling already!!! We are currently the worst performing team since Derby in 2007/08.

    You’re right Ed, what the hell are we worrying about???

  • jimmysmith

    Sep 17, 2015 at 1:27 AM

    Comment #14

    If Pardew had stayed and the injuries and suspensions not occurred last season would surely have been vastly better. Vastly. This squad appears better. It is too early to believe it won’t work. Despite the poor start there remains greater reason to believe it ultimately will. Ashley has spent enough to expect a top ten, even eighth place finish, and McClaren and Cathro look legitimate, so it’s certainly still on the cards.

  • Derek

    Sep 17, 2015 at 1:33 AM

    Comment #15

    It’s almost as if Ed gets a little pay out from Ashley to try and convince blog readers everything’s fine and dandy at Newcastle United in an attempt to limit future protests

  • ron kasorga

    Sep 17, 2015 at 1:59 AM

    Comment #16

    Come on…it is still early days and what ????? you expert to kick SM out ??? When are we going to learn from the past ?

    SM need years not five games to prove himself that he is the right man for this job, look at the staff that he brought in….all are new and full of potentials, just give them some space and also for the new players to gel.

  • terencelim

    Sep 17, 2015 at 3:23 AM

    Comment #17

    @ron kasorga you didn’t learn from the past.

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Sep 17, 2015 at 5:18 AM

    Comment #18

    Ashley has not spend enough in the right areas!

    …and he replaced Pardew with another kind of Pardew!

    That’s why we look the way we do and it’s the reason why we are relegation fodder.

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Sep 17, 2015 at 5:29 AM

    Comment #19

    ron kasorga…what are we thinking? It’s not like teams such as WHam, SOTON or Leicester are doing any better!

  • SUTTY1978

    Sep 17, 2015 at 6:21 AM

    Comment #20

    I read through the article, the quote from Andy Cole, I found myself mentally nodding along with everything he was saying, basically that Steve is playing exactly the same dour football as we have seen under Pardew and we look woeful. My biggest surprise came when Ed launched a “scathing” attack on mr Cole for pointing out some pretty obvious and true events. Crikey, I hope Ed doesn’t start to comment, he’ll tear me a new one for my negative thoughts on our playing style

  • the truth will out

    Sep 17, 2015 at 6:33 AM

    Comment #21

    my dad predicted the points total and will gladly predict the next 5 games
    i too believe we are in deep doodoo

  • SUTTY1978

    Sep 17, 2015 at 7:16 AM

    Comment #22

    Graeme, that Derby team in 2007/08 got their first win against us, as we don’t play against us, I fear we may do worse!

  • Ron Knee

    Sep 17, 2015 at 7:19 AM

    Comment #23

    the truth
    What’s your dad’s prediction for the Watford match?

  • SUTTY1978

    Sep 17, 2015 at 7:20 AM

    Comment #24

    Jesper, I said weeks ago that McLaren is the ginger Pardew, I was ploughing a lone furrow, I feel some more people are ready to jump on the Ginger Pardew boat now!

  • Ron Knee

    Sep 17, 2015 at 7:24 AM

    Comment #25

    I noticed you didn’t have Thauvin in your starting lineup. Is he that bad?

  • firebug666

    Sep 17, 2015 at 7:45 AM

    Comment #26

    Well it’s official, my early season optimism has gone, and as a result I just cannot see us getting a win on Saturday, in fact I think we will be lucky to get a draw.

    After the West Ham game showed us how much we have not changed this season, and the players were wheeled out with the same old rhetoric from last season, (“we will have to put it right this week”; “we are all disappointed”; “we have to do better”; etc etc blah blah blah) the resulting feeling for me is nothing has changed.

    McClaren does not inspire me with confidence, and some of his quotes seem to be straight out the gospel according to Pardew.

    However he asked for ten games, to get things together, and I am still willing to give him them (5 left) but shall be watching closely while sharpening the points of my pitchfork.

    Prediction for Saturday????

    I don’t see where our goals will come from so I’ll go with a 0-0.

  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 17, 2015 at 7:48 AM

    Comment #27

    Ed says no time to panic it’s just one game, does the Swansea debacle not count ?

  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Sep 17, 2015 at 7:53 AM

    Comment #28

    I’ve put us down for a 2-0 defeat
    we’ll have 70% of the game Watford will score after 20 minutes. We will huff and puff and create absolute zilch, camped in their half and guess what, watford will break away and score the second.
    Been their before playing promoted teams Hull and Blackpool off the top of my head did the same.
    In fact if we play like we did Monday I can’t see us picking up a dozen points and a dozen goals, which will make the winter transfer window interesting!!!!!

    Know good having all the possession and playing well GOT TO PUT THE BALL IN THE NET

    Worst scenario TOONS?Fixtures up to New Year and predictions
    Premier League
    Newcastle v Watford Sat 19 Sep 15:00 loose
    Newcastle v Chelsea Sat 26 Sep 17:30 loose

    Man City v Newcastle Sat 3 Oct 15:00 loose
    Newcastle v Norwich Sun 18 Oct 16:00 draw
    Sunderland v Newcastle Sun 25 Oct 12:00 loose
    Newcastle v Stoke Sat 31 Oct 15:00 draw

    Bournemouth v Newcastle Sat 7 Nov 12:45 draw
    Newcastle v Leicester Sat 21 Nov 15:00 draw
    Crystal Palace v Newcastle Sat 28 Nov 15:00 loose

    Newcastle v Liverpool Sat 5 Dec 15:00 loose
    Tottenham v Newcastle Sat 12 Dec 15:00 loose
    Newcastle v Aston Villa Sat 19 Dec 15:00 win
    Newcastle v Everton Sat 26 Dec 15:00 loose
    West Brom v Newcastle Mon 28 Dec 15:00 draw

  • magscar

    Sep 17, 2015 at 8:00 AM

    Comment #29

    Mister Tuff @10

    Was intending to stay off blog but need to enlighten you – my reference to you was purely in the interests of completeness as to who had labeled me. Yes mostly BandB but you in your ridiculous and purile lists have as well. If you are objecting to the adjectives sorry but they are my honest views of you redundant lists. No need for any faux outrage just look for another opening to make yourself relevant. Good day

  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 17, 2015 at 8:05 AM

    Comment #30

    Mclaren may come good, after all he is to be judged after 10 games, not before. But there is no getting away from the fact that we have replaced Pardew with a sacked Championship manager. A manager who was desperate to manage in the PL and didn’t want to do it with us, he wanted to stay at Derby and manage them but he wasn’t good enough and despite being a very wealthy man due to his other high profile sackings he still wouldn’t walk. Despite the change in the disastrous PR that made it clear we didn’t want to win cups and tenth was our aim the mind set from those at the top remains the same, I think Collocinis admission of what league they think were in proves this. Mclaren was more than happy to sign up to this so he could share a glass of wine with in the plush lounges of the Etihad with Pelligrini after a game rather than in the shabby surroundings of Doncaster Rovers.

  • firebug666

    Sep 17, 2015 at 8:07 AM

    Comment #31

    Charlie in the Gallowgate

    I have to agree, I don’t see us getting much out of this season.

    More of the same from last season to look forward to, the wally with the brolly is just another face to front the same old spiel.

  • thebionicMAG

    Sep 17, 2015 at 8:09 AM

    Comment #32

    Everything Andy Cole said was true. If it seemed negative its because he was stating the facts which are 100% negative.

    We play negatively, We are negative.

    This has to change.

  • c-dog

    Sep 17, 2015 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #33

    Sadly we have no players in our team that are capable of taking control. Mbemba could be good but he is not a leader and needs a partner to tell him what to do, where to be etc. We still need to replace Cabaye. Sissoko, Wijnaldum et al.(although good players) are not the ‘take a game by the scruff’ players and need real quality to bring out the best in them. Mitrovich is a donkey, there can be no disputing this. Another tough season ahead with our inept squad I’m afraid.


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