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Newcastle Take Another Two Steps Back – Lose 2-1 To Watford

5:27 pm, Saturday, September 19th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 100 Comments

This was a terrible result for Newcastle and the performance wasn´t much better – and  our performance in the first half was as bad, if not worse, than in the first half at Tottenham on Monday night.

So we suppose Newcastle took another two steps back in a game which on paper was the easiest of our first six league games, but we lost it with some dismal defending in the first half.

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Daryl Janmaat – had a good game for Newcastle and scored the goal

Watford were much sharper in front of goal than Newcastle, and they went ahead through Ighalo after only 10 minutes, but Haidara set up the goal when he lost the ball trying to go forward up the left wing.

Watford played the ball in and it was all too easy for Ighalo to beat Tim Krul with his shot.

But we cannot give the ball away like Haidara did – it was thoroughly poor defending by Newcastle.

Papiss Cisse had a great chance to equalize only four minutes later when he was through the inside left position,  but he shot well wide – a very poor effort from the Senegal man.

And after 19 minutes Sissoko should have done better when he shot wide from the middle of the area from only 18 yards out.

Watford were much more effective up front in the final third, and it almost seemed like Newcastle carried on from the way we played at West Ham – so that wasn´t a fluke.

We are playing very poorly in these last two games and deserved to lose both of them.

After 28 minutes we went two behind and it was Ighalo again when Deeney put the ball through to him, and the striker easily beat Krul to a stunned St. James’ Park crowd.

2-0 down after 28 minutes at home to a newly promoted side – wow.

Half time came and we had been outplayed by Watford, and were behind 2-0.

Siem de Jong came on for Papiss Cisse at the start of the second half, and that was almost an admission from Steve McClaren that he made a mistake starting Cisse.

Newcastle came back into the game in the second half and we created enough chances, but just like last season found it difficult to score.

And then Daryl Janmaat scored after 62 minutes – that´s our right back – and it was a nice goal from the Dutchman.

Daryl took the ball forward in the inside right position and sent it to Sissoko on his right and Moussa did well to pull the ball back and Daryl did really well to hit the ball past Gomes.

The former Tottenham goalkeeper had a good game in goal for Watford today.

So Newcastle were back in the game at 2-1, but again we labored to put the ball in the net and a good chance was missed by Siem de Jong after 79 minutes, when he hit the ball straight at the goalkeeper.

Then it was that man Janmaat again who sent in a great shot that Gomes did well to keep out – diving to his left to parry the ball.

McCalren brought on Aarons for Haidara after 80 minutes and Obertan for Thauvin after 88 minutes, but these changes should have made much sooner in the second half.

And that was it – as the final whistle was blown – with Newcastle losing their third league game in a row, and four in the first six games.

We have 2 points from a possible 12 and are now second bottom to – who else – Sunderland – who were beaten 2-0 at Bournemouth – and we go above them on goal difference.

The two north east clubs already propping up the Premier League.

The team was booed off the field and it wasn’t so much because of a lack of effort as just playing so poorly – and looking fairly clueless – again.

It was interesting the crowd was only just over 47,800 – which is a poor one for Newcastle.

Our next two league games are at home to Chelsea and at Manchester City, so it could be 2 points from the first eight games – worse than our very poor start last season.

We have difficulty scoring goals and our defense again looked very weak today – so when you have those weaknesses it´s going to be difficult to win many games.

In the 25 league games we have played this year we have 3 wins and 6 draws – that´s 15 points from a possible 75 – that´s pathetic.

Not sure where we go from here, but it´s looking a huge mistake not to have signed Charlie Austin in the summer.

We balked at the £15M – but hey, if we are relegated we lose £80M and more – so it´s all got to be in looked at in perspective.

This was a disastrous result for Newcastle and given our first half performance we didn´t deserve to get anything out of this game.

I can’t think what the press are going to be saying – given the very poor press we got after the 2-0 defeat at West Ham.

Newcastle were no better today – and we may be in for a long hard season – that will be the fourth in a row since we finished 5th top in 2012.

With the Premier League money increasing by 70% next summer, Mike Ashley must be having kittens at the moment.

In the last two games we have looked no better than we were last season.

That´s a sobering thought.


Newcastle: Krul; Janmaat, Mbemba, Coloccini, Haidara (Aarons, 80); Colback Wijnaldum; Sissoko, Perez, Thauvin (Obertan, 88); Cisse (de Jong, 46).
Subs: Elliot, Lascelles, Williamson, Anita.

Watford: Gomes; Nyom, Cathcart, Prodl, Anya; Capoue, Watson (Guedioura, 88); Abdi (Berghuis, 76), Deeney, Jurado (Ake, 80); Ighalo.
Subs: Arlauskis, Hoban, Ibarbo, Diamanti.

Goals: Ighalo 10, 28, Janmaat 62
Referee: Roger East (Wiltshire)
Attendance: 47,806

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  • 1 JamesToon // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:29 PM

    Watford had a gameplan, strikers sit deep to stop midfield from being overcrowded, when they win the ball, the strikers hit the wings and hold it up, deeney and ighalo got so much space it was unbelievable. Aarons, De Jong all need to start against chelsea and i’d even be tempted to play lascelles, and put colback at left back as haidara was woeful

    has to be 4-4-2 for me, play it in the way that bournemouth/watford do,
    janmaat, mbemba, lascelles, colback
    thauvin, wijnaldum, tiote/anita, aarons
    Perez, De Jong

    Ever since mitro has been suspended or hasn’t played we’ve lacked someone to spearhead the attack and defend from the front, we supposedly play this high pressing game but our forwards are useless at it apart from perez

  • 2 Ibizatoon // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:31 PM

    Is anyone keeping track of these one step forward, two step backs?

    Have we managed to time travel yet? How long until we’re back in the Keegan era?

  • 3 Szarka // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:32 PM

    Need a new manager. Squad is not perfect, could have spent more on defenders, rather buying more midfielders, but this squad is still has to beat a squad like Watford. If Mclaren cant motivate the team, cant make a proper tactic for this squad, then hes the one to blame for this poor performance.

  • 4 dannitoon // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:32 PM

    Clueless.. tactic less. ..what is it n our managers.. why not change after 30mins.. 4141 at fecking home against watford.. just shows £50m is approx £50m short of what we need… players must be scratching their heads.. different formation m game plan each week… not good enough… Chelsea n city hammering to come… Mbemba n Janmaat played well… colback needs to be dropped.. poor in possession n discipline

  • 5 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:33 PM

    “And Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher always like to produce headlines – that´s what they get paid for – and they said Newcastle had wasted £50M in the summer transfer market.” “Total nonsense …”

    And Toonbrother said we wouldn’t win a game with Colocinni …

    And Redknapp fancied Watford…

    Neville, Carragher, Toonbrother and Redknapp live to fight another day.

  • 6 Toon-Prodigy // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:33 PM

    What a shocker..

    Toothless, where are the goals going to come from?

    They need to get themselves sorted quickly.

  • 7 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:34 PM

    Poor. Again. Putting a big (by my standards) bet on relegation. As soon as its available on ladbrokes.

  • 8 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:36 PM

    Good job poor John’s not in charge of the same squad plus £50m of additional talent.

  • 9 SUTTY1978 // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:36 PM


    Just seem Mac on SSN, he talked for two minutes but said nothing.
    Waffle, consistency, waffle, first four games, waffle, draw would have been a good result

    The man is overawed by the job just like he was for England. Out of his depth. I said weeks ago that he was a bottler and thats why we were playing so defensively, just in the hope of not taking a battering.

  • 10 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:36 PM


    Its already too late. Losing at home to a side like watford is past the point of no return. Sorry to sound gloomy,it’s just how i see it

  • 11 toonking // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:36 PM

    relegation battle being ours i’ve looked into the next two fixtures of those around us
    mackems have manure A and westham H
    villa have liverpool A and stoke H
    stoke have bournemouth H villa

    and well if we include bournemoth they have stoke A and watford H

    by the time norwich comes we’ll end up 2 games from 17th possibly even 3 or 4!

  • 12 JamesToon // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:38 PM

    I just don’t know whats going wrong, opposition attackers seem to always have so much time and space, we seem to pussy foot around, we seem to be trying to push up high but theres just no closing down, we seem to always work the ball down the wings and cross but it goes to no one.

    Deep deep down theres something very wrong. Maybe another £25m should have been spent on Guerriero and Austin

  • 13 JamesToon // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:39 PM

    I really do not believe that the likes of watford have more quality than us, we just cannot seem to draw up a game plan(one that actually works) and stick to it. we always seem to lack ideas

  • 14 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:40 PM

    Massive mistake getting rid of Ben Arfa, Santon, Cabella and Abeid. Poor management.

  • 15 CypriotDelight // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:41 PM

    Monday nights game started the week off bad. Didn’t get much better. That game has ruined the weekend too.
    Feel sick….
    The team I support are so so bad it makes me want to cry!

  • 16 Toon-Prodigy // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:41 PM


    It’s worrying like, im not too concerned about the defence at the moment because that’s always been sh1te, im used to it, just where these goals are going to come from to win games I don’t know!!

    Cisse, Thauvin, Sissoko, Perez, De Jong look miles off right now, there dosn’t look to be a goal between them.

  • 17 toonking // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:42 PM


    I don’t know why he doesn’t just come out with an excuse such as no game is easy in the PL these days just ask chelsea.

    His job at england was one thing I always thought could prove this job a difficult one, both england and newcastle seem to act and be run in a simular way, lack of decent players, over rate them who are good, high expectations being made because of biggest league in england terms and one of the bigger stadium crowds in newcastles case and now foreigners ruining the england team gaining it’s english players and newcastle no long having it’s passionate and spitited locals.

  • 18 JamesToon // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:43 PM

    starting to regret that we didn’t splash the cash on prem proven quality and experience like West Ham have.

    All of those players would easily get into our side (maybe not Jenkinson)

  • 19 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    50 million wasted narring Mbemba possibly….and Mitro possibly jury is out.

    We will most likely get relegated. McLaren here we def will get relegated.

    3 more games if it doesn’t drastically doesn’t change which it won’t.

    New manager in ASAP. Thauvin was a complete waste I have never seen more waste of money than there.

    We need 6 -8 new players i which will never happen.

    Club is finished. Nobody will want to come here in Jan.

  • 20 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    “Daryl Janmaat – had a good game for Newcastle and scored the goal”

    That’ll be the same Daryl Janmaat who gets further forward than our forwards and, like Haidara and Colocinni, can’t defend, yeah?

  • 21 CypriotDelight // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    No game plan. No conviction, determination or confidence.
    We make every team look awesome…

    If I went to work and produced the same goods I would be in trouble. It is like trying to type on the back of a keyboard or writing with a pen the wrong way round.

    The wY we have lost is disturbing to say the least…

  • 22 lesh // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    Ok so the fingers point to McClaren but who determines the tactics? Who selects the team for games? Who’s taking the training?

    Cathro seems to have a fair bit of input into training so could it be that he and McClaren aren’t on the same page?

    There’s no doubt that a proven striker, CB and LB were needed in the window but it appears, yet again, that the short-term view of working to Ashley’s buy ’em young, buy ’em from Europe has contributed to our plight.

    Ashley wants to work to the supposed continental model with players being bought despite the wishes and needs as identified by the HC but it’s asking a lot of anyone to get results from a squad that’s ill-matched and perhaps not appropriate to the HC’s style.

    All in all, we’re a dogs breakfast and yet again, relegation looms large.

  • 23 JamesToon // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    Add Ayew, Austin and Gomis to that list

  • 24 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:46 PM


    Believe it. We have the worst team in the PL for sure. No quality no speed no confidence.

  • 25 terencelim // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:47 PM

    We need a new owner, as always.

  • 26 sparky55 // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:47 PM


    The opposition have time and space because Colocinni is a muppet with about as much space awareness a new born infant. Maclaren is truly out of his depth and his two year contract for Colo was worse than anything Carver ever did.

    We’re in disarray because our manager has no clue…the squad is better Watfords and better than probably ten clubs in the premiership yet we’re performing like a 1st division side…that’s down to management…I said it when he got the job and I’ll say it again…uninspiring at best and his Colo contract offer outed him as a muppet with no clue from the very beginning.

  • 27 martoon // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:48 PM

    On my way home. We truly were atrocious. I’m normally optimistic but I am now very worried. 🙁

  • 28 Toon-Prodigy // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:52 PM

    Oh, the recruitment policy is absolute garbage.

    What I would give for:


    But no, too expensive, too old or they want 80-100k a week.

    That was depressing, im off to kip for work.

  • 29 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:52 PM

    New owner, new manager, new players all 11 of them.

    never seen this club this s*t. Never.

  • 30 BandB // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    McLaren looks like he’s trying to put a Brave New Face on things.

    I think he might struggle to turn this round, because I think he lacks the rat-in-a-barrel sense of self-preservation that kept Pardew coming up smelling of roses whenever he looked cornered.

  • 31 toonking // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:54 PM


    Even this buy for cheap sell profit is a system that will no longer allow cashley to make the profit he wants to make, those from the past had the Premier league experience around them and therefore those from abroad could take time whilst adapting now they don;t have them so are having to do it in an instant

  • 32 CypriotDelight // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    I had high hopes for this game thinking it would kick start our season.

    Fair play, it has kicked sense into me that hoping is a fools game and reality bites. We are a disgrace to the prem. No defence, no attack, no game plan, no idea. Every team will be jumping up and down to play us.

    Watford turned our fortress into theirs today and it is sad. If they can’t turn it around from Monday at home to Watford then I really believe we are lost…

  • 33 mfw13 // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    I said it after the Swansea loss and I’ll say it again….you’re not going to win too many games when you’re conceding two goals per match.

    We didn’t invest enough in the defense, and now we’re paying the price, with Coloccini too old and slow, and Haidara and Mbemba too inexperienced and unseasoned.

    What does it say when we don’t have a single center back between the ages of 22-29?

  • 34 SUTTY1978 // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:57 PM

    Sparky, agree wholeheartedly.

  • 35 SUTTY1978 // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:58 PM

    Mfw, we have three centre backs between 22 & 29, all three are Mbemba!

  • 36 leonado_keng // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:59 PM

    So upset with your plan Mcclaren, I will teach you how to modify team to get the best out of players,

    4-2-3-1 but you should change a bit as following (The best at now)
    Janmaat Lascelles Colo Haidara
    Mbemba. Sissoko
    Thauvin. Wijnaldum. Perez/Aaron
    De jong/Mitrovic

    Note : 2 DMC must be Mbemba and Sissoko because they have more energising than we expect, strenghts, Smart, Height, Thick, Technic …

  • 37 chicousa // Sep 19, 2015 at 5:59 PM

    SMC may have finally realized when he took Haidara off and brought on Aarons that the weakest link in the Mags team is left back. Colocini was woeful as well. Lets hope he starts either Colback or Aarons at LB next match: even if they are playing out of position, either would be better than Haidara! And for heavens sakes realize that Colo is ready for retirement!

  • 38 check the toastie // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:00 PM

    Over reaction as normal by most folk

    First half carrying two awful pro footballers.

    Collocini and Cisse, unbelievable and the sooner they are moved on the better.

    That second goal was criminal by Collo, you can get no worse than that, utter shite.

    The football is actually better than anything Pardew served up, however the whole defence is getting jitters due to our captain. He must be dropped, Cisse packaged off to the middle east quickly. Turned into a div.

    Bad day, plus I blew 100quid on the geegees. Disaster.

  • 39 BandB // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:02 PM

    However, I have a theory we will struggle more against the more physical, direct and pacey sides than we do against the 18 yard-box sitters.
    Therefore we are just as likely to get four points from Chelsea and City as we were from West Ham and Watford.

  • 40 brklyngeordie // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:02 PM

    Wow that was another disgraceful day at SJP in the FatAsh era…

    Haidara must never start again Colback must play there till Dummet is back or get Aarons in as LB asap he will def be upgrade over Haidara..

    Really is time for COLO to start sitting out a few games Lascelles must be given a chance see if he is a player or not..

    Cisse should have got pen early but otherwise another 1 that needs to remain on bench..

    Relegation looms stay away from the stadium the club and players don’t deserve our money and support

  • 41 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:03 PM

    Aarons flash fancy footwork was in evidence today. Of course it’s a bit harder doing it in a real game than in a video with no opposition. Looks great in the latter.

  • 42 GeordieTwo // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:03 PM

    At least Sunderland is in the division to give us some competition for 20th place!

  • 43 JamesToon // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:04 PM

    The likes of West Ham, Saints, Stoke, Swansea are way ahead of us in terms of quality. Starting to think Carr might be the problem in. Get some better scouts

  • 44 GeordieTwo // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:05 PM

    I’m seeing the competition between us and the unwashed being very intense this season. 19th place, 20th place, back and forth. That lot with a -7 goal difference, us with a -6, but that can soon change! We’ve got Chelsea and City next! Huzzah!!!

  • 45 JamesToon // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:06 PM

    Why oh why did we not take a punt on the likes of sakho, payet, ayew, Gomis etc

  • 46 BandB // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:06 PM


  • 47 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:06 PM

    Haidara looks like an average under 21/reserve team player. That’s what he is of course. He’s there because old Mr Carr hasn’t bought a premier league quality left back. The lad’s been thrown in at the deep end, not because he’s ready but because old Mr Carr’s squad is not.

  • 48 toonking // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:07 PM


    how the hell can this be better than pardew, like pardew mac is consisting with addicts, why else would he have kept cisse and thauvin rather than play dejong and arrons or obatan, something parde would have done with tauvin BTW.

    also why the hell is jam our most attacking player whilst all the midfielders and forwards keep standing about like statues, put it this way pardew who did have a defensive style certainly played a greater threat on the counter now we see nothing other than constant passing whilst in our own half.

  • 49 Marty-Toon // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:07 PM

    We wer`nt at the races today until 60 mins had gone.
    COuldve had a peno when Cisse missed from 5 yards and that wouldve changed Things but again Haidara was poor in posession.
    We shoudl never have let Abeid og as i reckon he`d be better suited to Our game than Colback,Colback is too slow and like to sread the ball about but not in any hurry,he likes it to be calm,well he`s in the wrong League for that.
    Cisse needs dropped and to play so cowardly at home,Mc Claren needs to be dropped.
    Sissoko and Wijnaldum would be better in the middle With Thauvin and Aarons/Obertan on the wings and De Jong With Perez up front.

  • 50 toonking // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:07 PM

    also maybe you need to look at the table.

  • 51 GeordieTwo // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:08 PM

    What is our negative goal difference record? It must be in the -70’s. We have a chance to break that! And the reverse clean sheet record as well!!! This is a season for opportunities Steve. Let’s get some more young Frenchies in during the January window as well!!!

  • 52 angelswithdirtyfaces // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:09 PM

    Last season we were relegation candidates from when Pardew left. The step up coach clearly wasn’t up to it. The team had serious weaknesses.

    This season we have a new head coach, recognised as a significant upgrade on AP (even by his detractors) who was mediocre at best, a new and promising coaching team and 4 players, all of whom should be capable of performing on the EPL stage.

    We are still relegation candidates. Macca hasn’t hit the ground running -he has just plummtted into the ground.

    The players are just not up to it. We needed a massive clear out and a least 2-3 more quality additions.

    Our new coach is flatters to deceive, is stunningly mediocre himself, and can’t get the team to gel or perform at the right level.

    Penfold and Ashley have still got entirely the wrong set up, plan and approach for managing the club.

    £150m in three windows is looking very ambitious for Macca as we will have to get rid ot the team being built for 8th place on the EPL if we get relegated and he won;t be the coach either. But we’ll still be stuck with Penfold and Ashley.

    Take your pick. It ain’t working.

  • 53 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:11 PM

    When players are running down their contracts their fees are less and their wages are higher, yeah? What sort of remuneration package could you offer for the money we paid for Thauvin?

  • 54 GeordieTwo // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:11 PM

    Graham we’re depending on you to find some even younger French players in the January window. Players that are still unable to shave. Possibly still reaching puberty. Just think how much they’ll be worth in 10 years or so Mike!!!

  • 55 toon22 // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:11 PM

    Untill MA sells we will always be the same,we dont buy players the team needs.
    We buy players with the intent to make a profit.
    Meaning in the end you get a team like todays.

    Maybe relegation might shift MA this time as i cant see us coming straight back up.

  • 56 GeordieTwo // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:12 PM

    Boom, boom, boom boom boom!!
    Boom boom boom boom!
    We suck!!!

  • 57 lochinvar // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:13 PM

    Didn’t get to the game and didn’t watch it but feel better for that.
    This is serious – young Managers from other teams have us completely sussed and attack with pace and know that they can expose Colo and the full backs.
    McLaren is looking out of his depth and far to predictable old school style.
    He has to have the balls to drop Colo ,new contract or not .
    We can’t wait until January – the fat lady might be singing by then.

  • 58 JackButler // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:13 PM

    Looks like our twisted transfer policy is coming back to bite us sooner than I expected. No pace, no creativity, no goals and no clean sheets

  • 59 JamesToon // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:14 PM

    so we spent £50m on:

    When £50m could have actually bought us:

    Would you not argue that we could have got more quality AND quantity, let alone for cheaper prices

  • 60 toon22 // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:15 PM

    Strikers are too expensive and wont come to our shite team.
    Defenders are usually not very profitable,you usually dont get much once sold.
    Usually its midfielders that bring the big cash sales for most teams.

    Wonder why we have so many midfielders ??

  • 61 GeordieTwo // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:15 PM

    Even another 50M in January would be of no use. The model the club follows is the problem. A team full of young European babies. Ridiculous. As others have said no leadership, no Prem experience leads to disaster. Ashley out!!!

  • 62 toonking // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:15 PM

    city 0-2 west ham

    well he could say now that defeat against them wasn’t as bad a defeat as we first thought.

  • 63 GeordieTwo // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:16 PM

    Brilliant comment toon22 mate @59. Absolutely spot on!!!

  • 64 BandB // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:17 PM

    Charnley made it clear that our policy was to buy young players with an eye to their resale value.
    McClaren confirmed just yesterday this hasn’t changed (and there’s plenty of evidence to confirm this) and that it won’t be changing.
    This is like building a swamp. We bring in three or four…they sink. We bring in three or four on top of them…they sink.
    By the time new players arrive they are trying to keep a raft of soggy deadwood afloat, and being dragged down with it.

  • 65 toon22 // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:17 PM

    Our team is also quite small and injury prone.
    More things most teams avoid.

  • 66 toonking // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:19 PM

    maybe just maybe the league really is a one which results we’d do on paper are now nowhere near the true strength of any club, still It’s clear as day we are rubbish and it’s what happens when you’ve got a squad consisting of unXP premier league newbie and only merc with PL XP

  • 67 Mister Tuff // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:19 PM

    McLaren is bit by bit morphing into the Wally with the brolly. I think he has had good input into the communications side of the club – that looks better than it was – even though some of the stuff they put out is a bit debatable.
    Who decided what our immediate needs were at the end of last season – looks like our signings have not stopped the rot – so possibly other positions should have had priority. Did Wally make all the assessments -was he denied any of his choices.
    Looks like another unholy mess again. Mr Tubbs admitted to making mistakes – but we haven’t a clue as to what mistakes he was coughing to. We’ll probably never know.
    Two points so far – says things are not right – might be that re-enforcements in January will be too late.

  • 68 GeordieTwo // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:19 PM

    A raft of soggy deadwood. Very nice analogy BandB mate. Mike Ashley and the Soggy Deadwood. It sounds like a punk rock band….

  • 69 toon kk // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:20 PM

    I was very surprised at the poll, most seemed to think we would beat Watford, I said they’d brush us aside. People are starting to jump on Macca’s case, its not his falt we’ve got a sh.t squad, with no pace and fire power, most of the 50mil was wasted on the wrong players.
    Shameful .

  • 70 123 Dummet Time // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:21 PM

    Im trying to stay optimistic but i believe mcclaren with never be right, one word: Klopp

  • 71 JamesToon // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:21 PM

    123 dummet time

    i agree i’m trying very hard to stay optimistic

  • 72 check the toastie // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:22 PM


    Because Pardew had five years and was still shite, plus depressing.

    McLaren will come good, he’s had 6 games with basically the same relegation threatened squad as last year, they want to play the ball out so collocini may have seemed a good idea, he clearly isn’t.

    Cisse will be binned as quick as possible now. The squad is being assessed,

    Its early days.

  • 73 JackButler // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:22 PM

    SM has said that it could be a pailful season as everything needs time to settle?

    Sorry but I don’t see Bilic or Ranieri needing time.

    Right now we are side that cannot defend and offers little to no threat going forward

  • 74 JamesToon // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:23 PM

    Personally i don’t think MA’s put a foot wrong THIS SEASON, i think the blame lies solely at charnley/carr. MA has done the right thing sanctioning £50m, its charnley and carr who have done the wrong thing spending that £50m on inexperienced and unproven europeans.

  • 75 beefman13 // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:24 PM

    Are both Mclaren and the toon on a 2 wins in 19 situation?

    It’s still a shocka to me this one up front lark, modern football? Bloody crap, we pushed on cos we had to second half but Watford were so worth the three points.

    Wiji wanted his arse kicking for that spineless first half performance, Haidaras again do careless, and u don’t think Thauvin actually completed a cross to a toon player, ‘Colo’ I think we now must surely know is officially the luckiest gadgee in the world getting another year extension to his contract, what 50k a week, beggars belief.

    Folk are paying good money Mclaren and i don’t want to judge you after 12 games, you are getting judged now and it’s a very poor effort son.

  • 76 andrew84 // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:25 PM

    Someone on here (apologies to that person but I can’t remember who) made an excellent point last week.

    Only at a club like Newcastle could the Chief Scout have such an authoritative role. That sort of thing shouldn’t be allowed to happen at a League 2 club, never mind in the PL.

    As for Mclaren, well he can carry on with the bluster and the ‘dressing room inquests’ if he really wants to, but if this type of performance is the end result of that, then what does it say about his own abilities as a man-manager, or about the respect that the players have for him?

    And don’t even get me started on Coloccini. He was getting skinned today in ways that should have been ironed out of non-league footballers in their early 20s. Just what the hell does Mclaren see in him that warrants him being made captain?

    The way I’m feeling at the moment, the next time I get an e-mail from the club I’m tempted to reply and tell them to f**k right off.

    Played off the park by a newly promoted team at home. Dog sh1te from top to bottom.

    Expect to see more of the same in the next game ladies and gents. 4-2-3-1 with Cisse up front. Clueless.

  • 77 GeordieTwo // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:26 PM

    I knew we would suck this season mates, but I never in my wildest dreams thought we would suck this bad…The horror!!!!

  • 78 toonking // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:27 PM


    pardew actually began his season excellent having got us into 5th place, so if he who you describe as worse can manager than then how the hell can’t mac, also you say mac will come good over time well why did he get worse as the season went on with derby, don’t forget PALACE 7th place and infact has scored more goals that a number of those above him have scored inclubing MANURE.

    So unless we see him turn this palace team awful you’ll have to accept he was better than expected and well you might as well describe morineo as a sh1t manager if you base it on the fact he has had crapper seasons as time goes by because that is just how morineo has been during him career.

  • 79 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:28 PM

    West Ham beating City 2 – 1 !!

    We need to put our fastest players in the team and go for it Aarons Sissoko Obertan and Perez all need to start the next games

  • 80 GeordieTwo // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:28 PM

    That’s the model Mike Ashley put in place JamesToon @73. He wants young players who he hopes will have huge sell-on value. Most of the time it doesn’t work out. Now it’s becoming a disaster for the club. Put the blame where it belongs, at Mike Ashley’s door.

  • 81 GeordieTwo // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:29 PM

    It’s a lot like watching Men In Black 2. It just keeps getting worse and worse.

  • 82 phoonck // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:29 PM

    Formation 4-2-3-1 is fine (alot of teams are using this formation to great success) but it would have to be like this (when Mitrovic is back from suspension):

    Janmaat Mbemba Lascelles Colback
    Wijnaldum Sissoko
    Thauvin Perez Aarons

  • 83 GeordieTwo // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:30 PM

    Hoi toonking mate @77, check that sentence composition! Harrumph!!

  • 84 beefman13 // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:31 PM

    Jamestown, in fairness MA HAS given decent funds out as u say, has Charnley spent then wisely? early doors I know it worst start in ten years and again getting ridiculed as relegation fodder, maybe MA should be havin a word in his direction and Charnley passing it on to our beloved shteve in no uncertain terms.

  • 85 Mister Tuff // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:31 PM

    Did anyone notice Wally taking a phone call -in the middle of the game.
    Cannot imagine it was a wrong number or him ordering a pizza for tonight. Could only have been Mr Tubbs or Penfold – probably giving him dogs abuse.

  • 86 GeordieTwo // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:32 PM

    A lot of teams have better players, better head coaches, better Managing Directors, and better owners than us phoonck @81.

  • 87 andrew84 // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:32 PM


    Don’t take it as read that Mclaren as good as admitted that Cisse should never have started the game when he subbed him.

    He’ll be back in the side for the next game. From the start. On his own. Mclaren’s got no bottle and I would love to be proved wrong.

  • 88 BandB // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:33 PM

    Angels has listed a number of things there that all contribute.
    We are picking and choosing whichever suits us, when there is no one cause. One leads to another in a circle of decline.

  • 89 GeordieTwo // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:33 PM

    No that was Steve’s mum Mr. Tuff mate. She was just reminding him to wear his sweater for the evening chill….

  • 90 check the toastie // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:34 PM

    Toonbrother knows his stuff regards Collocini, he contributed nothing but negative today.

    What does he bring to the field. Apart from technically he’s canny for a centre back. The man is embarrassingly bad.

    He will be highlighted by every team we play as an embarrassingly weak link. Hapless

  • 91 GeordieTwo // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:34 PM

    In fact I think it’s going to get very chilly indeed for Steve in Newcastle in the next few months….

  • 92 toonking // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:36 PM


    my english has never been great mate, I should invent a maths laungage, invented a word already 800=Boo

  • 93 cestriasteve // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:36 PM

    I actually went today, took the day off and decided the season ticket might get some use. I said to our kid on the way over that we need to see out the first 15 minutes, get some confidence and then build on it.

    Now I’ve got no where near as good a tactical nouse as say LILO or JayPhoto but surely McClaren should have just said that.

    Also can’t understand why we are tinkering with the midfield, Sissoko needs to play if anywhere out on the right, play Anita, Windi and De Jong through the spine, who know on the other side.

    Sissoko through the middle doesn’t work and if your going to experiment then don’t do it in an EPL game.

    Is this hard? I’m I talking sh*te??

  • 94 GeordieTwo // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:37 PM

    Pluck out the ingrown hair that is Mike Ashley. It just stares back at us festering away…..Aaarrrghhhhh!!!

  • 95 GeordieTwo // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:37 PM

    Toonking mate 😆

  • 96 colwell // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:38 PM

    Graham Carr is the problem. Pardew and McClaren have had to deal with the dross he constantly brings in yet Carr seems untouchable???

    We must have by far the slowest team in the prem, The best teams or at least ones that can compete with the best have pace and power though out we lack both. By the time January comes round and the way we do transfers it will probably already be to late.

  • 97 GeordieTwo // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:38 PM

    Or is Mike more like a nasty foot fungus than an ingrown hair? It’s one of those, I’m sure of it….

  • 98 jasper // Sep 19, 2015 at 6:49 PM




    Thauvin made an effort, came infield and made himself available for the ball
    Jamaat was up and down the wing despite clearly hurting from something, at one stage I though he’d done hie groin then he scored.
    Mbemba showed his inexperience with the second goal but was good in the air and the ground.
    Wini showed real class but is not integrated into the team yet.

    Colo stood as far away from Deeny as he could manage.
    Haidara just isn’t good enough
    Cisse doesn’t care
    Colback just doesn’t have a football brain

  • 99 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Sep 19, 2015 at 7:07 PM

    Well well nearly got the score right had Watford for a 2-0 win.
    Just got in from the game another woeful performance and that’s from the manager never mind the team. Why drop Anita for Colback and play one up front
    Get rid of the wally with the brollie is he has not got a idea.
    nailed on for relegation.
    I cannot see where we are going to get our first Premiership win this season.
    Mackems game now is a game for who takes bottom spot.
    My MOM Janmaat least he looked like he cared Thauvin did OK but looks lightweight Mbemba Ok. Colback Hiadara – shit Colocini and Cissse not much better.

    my predictions I made after the WHA game…
    TOONS?Fixtures up to New Year
    Premier League
    Newcastle v Watford Sat 19 Sep 15:00 loose
    Newcastle v Chelsea Sat 26 Sep 17:30 loose

    Man City v Newcastle Sat 3 Oct 15:00 loose
    Newcastle v Norwich Sun 18 Oct 16:00 draw
    Sunderland v Newcastle Sun 25 Oct 12:00 loose
    Newcastle v Stoke Sat 31 Oct 15:00 draw

    Bournemouth v Newcastle Sat 7 Nov 12:45 draw
    Newcastle v Leicester Sat 21 Nov 15:00 draw
    Crystal Palace v Newcastle Sat 28 Nov 15:00 loose

    Newcastle v Liverpool Sat 5 Dec 15:00 loose
    Tottenham v Newcastle Sat 12 Dec 15:00 loose
    Newcastle v Aston Villa Sat 19 Dec 15:00 win
    Newcastle v Everton Sat 26 Dec 15:00 loose
    West Brom v Newcastle Mon 28 Dec 15:00 draw

  • 100 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Sep 19, 2015 at 7:08 PM

    And sadly it has not taken us long to go back to playing hoofball

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