There’s Enough In That Dressing Room To Turn Things Around


It´s not really a new experience for Steve McClaren to have a poor initial run of results at a new club.

At Middlesbrough back in 2001 he lost the first four games before starting to turn things around and at Wolfsburg in 2010 he lost the first three games.

Newcastle haven´t won yet after six games and it would be a brave person to forecast a win in our next two league games – at home the Chelsea and then on the road at Manchester City.

daryl janmaat scores newcastle goal

Daryl Janmaat scoring after 62 minutes

We are coming off a poor performance at home to Watford losing 2-1 when 60% of our fans through we could win the game and only 20% thought we would lose against Watford.

So that´s a double whammy – we lost the game and at the same time we played poorly – and we didn´t deserve to get anything out of the game.

The 54-year-old has said immediately after the game that he was thinking of maybe going to a more down to earth pragmatic approach in an attempt to win games:

“That’s something we will have to question and look after every game.”   “Can we be free-flowing? Can we be this or that? What identity have we got?”

“And we are still searching for the best team. We are also still searching for the best identity within the personnel we have got here.”

“It’s about results, and we have to try to find a way of playing. We have to be pragmatic.” “I don’t think we have an identity yet.”

“I have seen enough in those first four games – the attitude and the spirit,” “At times, we were a little bit naive in terms of losing our shape and wanting to win things and do things.”

“There’s enough in that dressing room. We have seen enough not to panic and to stay calm. There is no crisis, but only we can turn it round. We must keep working.”

Newcastle play Sheffield Wednesday at home in the 3rd round of the League Cup, so there´s a chance to get a win on the board, albeit against a Championship club.

But we?l take it and it may help to raise the confidence of our players a little bit.

Sheffield Wednesday beat Fulham at home 3-2 on Saturday and they are in 14th place in the Championship with 9 points from eight games.

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83 comments so far

  • croftus5678

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:04 PM

    Comment #1

    win against sheff wed’s then fans be happy.

    then lose to chelskum and city and bottom of prem and fans will go mad.

    then we will start pulling out results and out of relegation.

    i’m no fortune teller but i cant see it going any other way i’m afraid ! does anyone expect any different ? even on top form i couldnt see it being any different tbh.

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:12 PM

    Comment #2

    We need to go back to basics with a 442 with Mitrovic and Perez as or De Jong and Perez as the front 2 with Aarons and Obertan as the wingers with Sissoko and Wijnaldum as the midfielders and work with that staying compact and having our fastest players on the pitch at the same time

    Mitrovic holding it up with Perez and Sissoko making runs just behind him would work well

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  • jimmysmith

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:12 PM

    Comment #3

    Surely you didn’t imagine we’d have 2 points after eight games, after spending 50 million and not selling any of our best players, and having the sixth or seventh most expensive squad and wage bill in the league.

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  • Toon fm Exeter

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:18 PM

    Comment #4

    14Toon fm Exeter // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:13 PM

    I re-itterate what I said yesterday without the word foreign even though we only play with 1 Englishman we will get nowhere with these prima donnas. They are overpaid , do not put the effort in and are not fit to wear the black and white stripes. I have seen some dross served up since the mid 60’s but at least they put a shift in. There has to be something fundamentally wrong with our scouting system as we go for the same type each time and it does not work. We have no one coming through the ranks , we are doomed I tell ya doomed. I hope I am proved wrong but we will be cast adrift by late October and I can’t see where a win is coming from, the championship beckons.

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  • Munster Mag

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:18 PM

    Comment #5

    I dont agree croftus.we may be best off being a defensive team ( if he wants identity) because we dont have the pace to cope with all these fast teams. I think relegation is quite possible because of the standard of the promoted teams. What are the relegation odds?

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  • croftus5678

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:21 PM

    Comment #6

    @3 jimmy

    if its me your asking i’d have guessed at points wise we would have had

    southampton 0
    swansea 0
    manure 0
    northampton win
    arsenal 0
    west ham 3
    watford 3

    so 6 points and after the sheff wed win and chels/city losses still 6 points from a further 2 games !

    so yes imo we are 4 points addrift of where i thought we could be.

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  • SPRINGY

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:23 PM

    Comment #7

    jimmy
    i went off last years results as comparison and guidance,thought the best we’d get from southampton was a draw,a draw at swansea,losses to man utd arsenal and west ham and beat watford……after man utd and arsenal tho thought we might got something at west ham….but let down badly by a shite performance

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  • SPRINGY

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:28 PM

    Comment #8

    can anyone genuinely( not wearing toon tinted glasses) see us pickin up more then 4-5 points from our next 9 games…al be honest im struggling

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  • croftus5678

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:30 PM

    Comment #9

    @5 munster

    you have a good point as what was classed as lower teams are spending bigger money on better players from abroad or paying better wages to a better quality of player that there is not much of an almost guarenteed relegation club like there used to be as the gaps closed a lot now.

    its the stage that the manager who gets the best out of their players becomes more valueable than the players themselves imo ! not calling macca as its too early imo esp based on the teams we have played so far to make a judgement on him yet.

    and i really hope not on the defensive side as its the main reason i personally wanted pards out as it was very boring and negative to watch.

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  • jimmysmith

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:30 PM

    Comment #10

    The club has spent a lot of money on that squad. I’d have expected six points too, possibly a couple more, but I didn’t expect the performances we’ve seen in the last two games, or the lack of discipline and professionalism we’ve seen from a few players in almost all.

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  • croftus5678

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:33 PM

    Comment #11

    wins at nowich / scumderland / bournmouth / leicester and just because 😉 palace.

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  • SPRINGY

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:36 PM

    Comment #12

    croftus
    hope ya ryt….cant see it myself….unless theres a vast improvement

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  • SPRINGY

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:44 PM

    Comment #13

    chelsea=0
    mancity=0
    norwich=3
    scum=1
    stoke=1
    b’mouth=0
    leicester=1
    palace=0
    liverpool=0

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  • croftus5678

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:45 PM

    Comment #14

    @12 springy

    tbh buddy thats when i personally will be spitting my dummy out if we dont get too many points from those games !

    watford was a certain 3 points for me but they clawed 2 points from games i didnt think we would so it took the edge off for me.

    thing is i can remember looking at the fixtures before the season and thought we would be in the bottom 3 with hardly any points in even the next 2 games so i can not say i’m shocked nor have call to cry about it just yet !

    i cant blame the club for the fixture list ! if we’d have had the first 10 games like bournmouth / watford / sunderland / norwich ect ect we may have been top half by now but we would have been suicidal come jan with how many we would have lost on the trott.

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  • SPRINGY

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:45 PM

    Comment #15

    ok 6 points…maybe a point off liverpool

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:47 PM

    Comment #16

    The thing that worries me the most is the lack of work rate from our team ! Other teams work for 90 minutes but we only seem to do this when we are a couple of goals down

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  • croftus5678

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:48 PM

    Comment #17

    @15 springy

    lol you ever seen play your cards right ?

    “higher or lower than a 6……it’s a 5 eeewwww flock it >,<" lol

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  • SPRINGY

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:50 PM

    Comment #18

    croftus
    when the fixture list came out i looked at last seasons results in same games and thought theres not many points there…and not daft enough to think macca would of had us playing mint with these games to contend with….need patients but…..could be a shit load of pressure by the time norwich, scum and rest of the games we fancy our chances against come round

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  • SPRINGY

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:51 PM

    Comment #19

    think i’ll go………lower bruce…or should i say croftus!lol

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  • SPRINGY

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:54 PM

    Comment #20

    lcbp
    when you watch someone like leicester after us its embarassing how lazy our lot are…bunch of big time charlies think they are better then they are and only need to show up to win a game…..theres a serious attitude problem over there

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  • Munster Mag

    Sep 20, 2015 at 11:57 PM

    Comment #21

    Croftus….pards dull? True but he aint dull at palace. And so i go back to the guy who didnt want to get pardew the Players he wanted. Carr. Dont blame ashley for the choice of players….

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  • SPRINGY

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:04 AM

    Comment #22

    do you think ashley or charnley would get rid of carr or macca first if things are’nt good after 15 matches?

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:26 AM

    Comment #23

    What’s there enough of in the dressing room??

    Condiments? trouser presses? Maybe them leads that make it look like you’re walking an imaginary dog. Them leads used to be the life and soul of the party at one point eh

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:29 AM

    Comment #24

    I bet there’s at least one trouser press in the dressing room for Thauvins tux. If we’re getting beat every week we might as well look sharp doing it.

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:31 AM

    Comment #25

    I’d probably use the aforementioned press to iron out McClarens game plans. Not been sharp enough yet brother.

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:33 AM

    Comment #26

    I doubt we’ll even reach the 30 points mark this season nevermind 40…

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:36 AM

    Comment #27

    We can stay up with 30 points so no worries. we just need 3 teams to get 27 28 and 29. This WILL happen I can almost guarantee it.

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:38 AM

    Comment #28

    60% of the time it works every time…

    (A wise philosopher once wrote)

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:40 AM

    Comment #29

    Having a mad 5 min. Will burn myself out in a min and probably need 8-10 hours recuperation time.

    Bare with me people..

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:43 AM

    Comment #30

    We ran into the 6th min so will leave you with one more knowledge nugget before sleepy times…

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:44 AM

    Comment #31

    Football is a game of 2 halves.

    I’m here all week. Night all

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  • jimmysmith

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:45 AM

    Comment #32

    Yeah, you’d expect some bumps, but Jesus. I think we need to go to Tiote and find out what his problem is, and try to get him back on board as a matter of urgency, and hope that Mitro can settle down. I think without that happening, which looks a long bow, it’s almost certainly 2 DM’s, a dearth of goals and still in the bottom six come January, and some desperate manoeuvring in the market.

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  • Blofal

    Sep 21, 2015 at 3:13 AM

    Comment #33

    This is my preferred team against Sheff Wed. Cisse will play because Mitrovic will be back vs Chelsea. I kind of wish we had Armstrong back because I would start him!

    ———————-Elliot
    Janmaat – Lacaselles – Williamson – Haidara
    ———————-Anita
    Obertan – Wijnaldum – De Jong – Aarons
    —————–Perez – Cisse

    Subs: Krul, Sissoko, Coloccini, Thauvin, Colback, Gouffran, Mbemba

    That there is our entire squad!!! All the rest of the first team are injured!

    Injuries:
    Riviere, Tiote (supposedly), Marveaux, Saylor, Dummet, Darlow

    http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php

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  • brklyngeordie

    Sep 21, 2015 at 3:28 AM

    Comment #34

    Really think we need to take this game against Shef Wed as an opportunity to really give Lascelles and Mbemba a look as a pair Colo really is worrying and I know it’s not popular but Aarons at LB Bale played and was very good there in his early days Aarons just needs to be on field imo

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  • brklyngeordie

    Sep 21, 2015 at 3:31 AM

    Comment #35

    Really can’t stomach Haidara for another game not hard nosed enough for a defender and not good enough offensively to justify his selection the man cannot cross with his preferred foot all you need to know

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  • stuart no9

    Sep 21, 2015 at 4:22 AM

    Comment #36

    Forget the fixture List and the hard games we’ve had and coming up . Every side in the prem Has had a hard game more than once so trying to justify our position by claiming we had to play these and we had to play them is total Bulls..t? The same as ” bedding new players in ?” Naa , other teams and players don’t suffer like we do , it’s simply a tactic used by the manager to gain time before the inevitable happens . We have heard this all before and that is why SM may not be around as long as the lady ones .
    Ok , give him time, but when £400m is up for grabs over the next 3 years via TV rights , time is of an essence and to be honest by Xmas , if we are still in bottom 3 , what’s Ashley’s cheaper option ? Pay Macca and his team off and try to preserve his £400m TV rights or keep Macca and risk losing a bloody lot of money – even by his standards, oh and his world wide advertising ( free advertising ) ash may be loyal to his employees , but he’s not an idiot . So my guess is Xmas . If he survives that long , it may come earlier .

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  • stuart no9

    Sep 21, 2015 at 4:26 AM

    Comment #37

    * other ones *

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  • lesh

    Sep 21, 2015 at 4:47 AM

    Comment #38

    Blofal

    Ok it’s southern journos commenting on our current plight and they’ve been having a go about Tiote and his absence.

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-poison-like-cheick-10094484

    Food for thought, nevertheless.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Sep 21, 2015 at 5:22 AM

    Comment #39

    lesh…I have got to say that there might be a few pointers there but this might be a cliche “that was just alot of English bullsh.. at one time”;

    I always love it when Brits (not talking about you lesh) go xenophobic on everyone’s arses 😉

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  • willowdalerez

    Sep 21, 2015 at 5:23 AM

    Comment #40

    I’m not pleased with our start but not panicked, paranoid or frothing at the mouth about it either.

    Macca wasn’t my top choice for head coach but I believe he can do the job and Cathro was a great pickup assistant coach.

    Like everyone on here I repeatedly stated the obvious we needed to bring in another striker on top of Mitro (Austin was my choice) and a top CB but that didn’t happen and overall I was pleased with our transfer business (can’t lay this at Ashley’s feet… Charnley if anyone).

    When I really will begin to judge Macca is how we preform after Mitro’s return and in particular in our fixture with Norwich and then by ending our drought in the Derby (if Sunderland takes a 6th straight off us god help Ed this board will need a moderator 24/7). I expect with Mitro back (in check and in form) we should pick up at least 4 points in the next 4 games (at least 1 from Norwich and of course all 3 at the Stadium of Light) maybe a point off Chelsea who javen’t looked their typical form or an overconfident City (who may try to rest a player or two against our squad). I am serious about this, no joking here we have some talent in that room now mgmt has to put together a winning formula and serve Mitro some decent chances… Gini and Thauvin have time to come good its our wobbly defense that needs to get in order and Cisse needs to sit. Hope Colback gets played back and the team gets it act together… Newcastle may not be a top 4 club but the pressure is 20X that of playing for Leicester or Watford or Swansea or Palace… that’s what Cathro and Macca have got to sort out or the likes of Mitro could go the likes of an awful combination of Barton / Ben Arfa at their worst. Not worried about the midfiler plenty of talent their just need a plan, somebody to feed and some fire in their belly… What to do about Colo… I’m not a sage but I’d say he should have a personal sit down with Macca he doesn’t ant to go out the captain of relegation fodder and that mihgt not make him faster but it has to put some spirti in him and it’s all we can do until the Jan window.

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