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There’s Enough In That Dressing Room To Turn Things Around

10:57 pm, Sunday, September 20th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 83 Comments

It´s not really a new experience for Steve McClaren to have a poor initial run of results at a new club.

At Middlesbrough back in 2001 he lost the first four games before starting to turn things around and at Wolfsburg in 2010 he lost the first three games.

Newcastle haven´t won yet after six games and it would be a brave person to forecast a win in our next two league games – at home the Chelsea and then on the road at Manchester City.

daryl janmaat scores newcastle goal

Daryl Janmaat scoring after 62 minutes

We are coming off a poor performance at home to Watford losing 2-1 when 60% of our fans through we could win the game and only 20% thought we would lose against Watford.

So that´s a double whammy – we lost the game and at the same time we played poorly – and we didn´t deserve to get anything out of the game.

The 54-year-old has said immediately after the game that he was thinking of maybe going to a more down to earth pragmatic approach in an attempt to win games:

“That’s something we will have to question and look after every game.”   “Can we be free-flowing? Can we be this or that? What identity have we got?”

“And we are still searching for the best team. We are also still searching for the best identity within the personnel we have got here.”

“It’s about results, and we have to try to find a way of playing. We have to be pragmatic.” “I don’t think we have an identity yet.”

“I have seen enough in those first four games – the attitude and the spirit,” “At times, we were a little bit naive in terms of losing our shape and wanting to win things and do things.”

“There’s enough in that dressing room. We have seen enough not to panic and to stay calm. There is no crisis, but only we can turn it round. We must keep working.”

Newcastle play Sheffield Wednesday at home in the 3rd round of the League Cup, so there´s a chance to get a win on the board, albeit against a Championship club.

But we?l take it and it may help to raise the confidence of our players a little bit.

Sheffield Wednesday beat Fulham at home 3-2 on Saturday and they are in 14th place in the Championship with 9 points from eight games.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Coaching · Management · Newcastle News · Premier League · Press · Press Conference

83 responses so far ↓

  • 1 croftus5678 // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:04 PM

    win against sheff wed’s then fans be happy.

    then lose to chelskum and city and bottom of prem and fans will go mad.

    then we will start pulling out results and out of relegation.

    i’m no fortune teller but i cant see it going any other way i’m afraid ! does anyone expect any different ? even on top form i couldnt see it being any different tbh.

  • 2 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:12 PM

    We need to go back to basics with a 442 with Mitrovic and Perez as or De Jong and Perez as the front 2 with Aarons and Obertan as the wingers with Sissoko and Wijnaldum as the midfielders and work with that staying compact and having our fastest players on the pitch at the same time

    Mitrovic holding it up with Perez and Sissoko making runs just behind him would work well

  • 3 jimmysmith // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:12 PM

    Surely you didn’t imagine we’d have 2 points after eight games, after spending 50 million and not selling any of our best players, and having the sixth or seventh most expensive squad and wage bill in the league.

  • 4 Toon fm Exeter // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:18 PM

    14Toon fm Exeter // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:13 PM

    I re-itterate what I said yesterday without the word foreign even though we only play with 1 Englishman we will get nowhere with these prima donnas. They are overpaid , do not put the effort in and are not fit to wear the black and white stripes. I have seen some dross served up since the mid 60’s but at least they put a shift in. There has to be something fundamentally wrong with our scouting system as we go for the same type each time and it does not work. We have no one coming through the ranks , we are doomed I tell ya doomed. I hope I am proved wrong but we will be cast adrift by late October and I can’t see where a win is coming from, the championship beckons.

  • 5 Munster Mag // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:18 PM

    I dont agree croftus.we may be best off being a defensive team ( if he wants identity) because we dont have the pace to cope with all these fast teams. I think relegation is quite possible because of the standard of the promoted teams. What are the relegation odds?

  • 6 croftus5678 // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:21 PM

    @3 jimmy

    if its me your asking i’d have guessed at points wise we would have had

    southampton 0
    swansea 0
    manure 0
    northampton win
    arsenal 0
    west ham 3
    watford 3

    so 6 points and after the sheff wed win and chels/city losses still 6 points from a further 2 games !

    so yes imo we are 4 points addrift of where i thought we could be.

  • 7 SPRINGY // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:23 PM

    i went off last years results as comparison and guidance,thought the best we’d get from southampton was a draw,a draw at swansea,losses to man utd arsenal and west ham and beat watford……after man utd and arsenal tho thought we might got something at west ham….but let down badly by a shite performance

  • 8 SPRINGY // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:28 PM

    can anyone genuinely( not wearing toon tinted glasses) see us pickin up more then 4-5 points from our next 9 games…al be honest im struggling

  • 9 croftus5678 // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:30 PM

    @5 munster

    you have a good point as what was classed as lower teams are spending bigger money on better players from abroad or paying better wages to a better quality of player that there is not much of an almost guarenteed relegation club like there used to be as the gaps closed a lot now.

    its the stage that the manager who gets the best out of their players becomes more valueable than the players themselves imo ! not calling macca as its too early imo esp based on the teams we have played so far to make a judgement on him yet.

    and i really hope not on the defensive side as its the main reason i personally wanted pards out as it was very boring and negative to watch.

  • 10 jimmysmith // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:30 PM

    The club has spent a lot of money on that squad. I’d have expected six points too, possibly a couple more, but I didn’t expect the performances we’ve seen in the last two games, or the lack of discipline and professionalism we’ve seen from a few players in almost all.

  • 11 croftus5678 // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:33 PM

    wins at nowich / scumderland / bournmouth / leicester and just because 😉 palace.

  • 12 SPRINGY // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:36 PM

    hope ya ryt….cant see it myself….unless theres a vast improvement

  • 13 SPRINGY // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:44 PM


  • 14 croftus5678 // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:45 PM

    @12 springy

    tbh buddy thats when i personally will be spitting my dummy out if we dont get too many points from those games !

    watford was a certain 3 points for me but they clawed 2 points from games i didnt think we would so it took the edge off for me.

    thing is i can remember looking at the fixtures before the season and thought we would be in the bottom 3 with hardly any points in even the next 2 games so i can not say i’m shocked nor have call to cry about it just yet !

    i cant blame the club for the fixture list ! if we’d have had the first 10 games like bournmouth / watford / sunderland / norwich ect ect we may have been top half by now but we would have been suicidal come jan with how many we would have lost on the trott.

  • 15 SPRINGY // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:45 PM

    ok 6 points…maybe a point off liverpool

  • 16 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:47 PM

    The thing that worries me the most is the lack of work rate from our team ! Other teams work for 90 minutes but we only seem to do this when we are a couple of goals down

  • 17 croftus5678 // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:48 PM

    @15 springy

    lol you ever seen play your cards right ?

    “higher or lower than a 6……it’s a 5 eeewwww flock it >,<" lol

  • 18 SPRINGY // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:50 PM

    when the fixture list came out i looked at last seasons results in same games and thought theres not many points there…and not daft enough to think macca would of had us playing mint with these games to contend with….need patients but…..could be a shit load of pressure by the time norwich, scum and rest of the games we fancy our chances against come round

  • 19 SPRINGY // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:51 PM

    think i’ll go………lower bruce…or should i say croftus!lol

  • 20 SPRINGY // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:54 PM

    when you watch someone like leicester after us its embarassing how lazy our lot are…bunch of big time charlies think they are better then they are and only need to show up to win a game…..theres a serious attitude problem over there

  • 21 Munster Mag // Sep 20, 2015 at 11:57 PM

    Croftus….pards dull? True but he aint dull at palace. And so i go back to the guy who didnt want to get pardew the Players he wanted. Carr. Dont blame ashley for the choice of players….

  • 22 SPRINGY // Sep 21, 2015 at 12:04 AM

    do you think ashley or charnley would get rid of carr or macca first if things are’nt good after 15 matches?

  • 23 Toon Tang // Sep 21, 2015 at 12:26 AM

    What’s there enough of in the dressing room??

    Condiments? trouser presses? Maybe them leads that make it look like you’re walking an imaginary dog. Them leads used to be the life and soul of the party at one point eh

  • 24 Toon Tang // Sep 21, 2015 at 12:29 AM

    I bet there’s at least one trouser press in the dressing room for Thauvins tux. If we’re getting beat every week we might as well look sharp doing it.

  • 25 Toon Tang // Sep 21, 2015 at 12:31 AM

    I’d probably use the aforementioned press to iron out McClarens game plans. Not been sharp enough yet brother.

  • 26 ilovetoon8788 // Sep 21, 2015 at 12:33 AM

    I doubt we’ll even reach the 30 points mark this season nevermind 40…

  • 27 Toon Tang // Sep 21, 2015 at 12:36 AM

    We can stay up with 30 points so no worries. we just need 3 teams to get 27 28 and 29. This WILL happen I can almost guarantee it.

  • 28 Toon Tang // Sep 21, 2015 at 12:38 AM

    60% of the time it works every time…

    (A wise philosopher once wrote)

  • 29 Toon Tang // Sep 21, 2015 at 12:40 AM

    Having a mad 5 min. Will burn myself out in a min and probably need 8-10 hours recuperation time.

    Bare with me people..

  • 30 Toon Tang // Sep 21, 2015 at 12:43 AM

    We ran into the 6th min so will leave you with one more knowledge nugget before sleepy times…

  • 31 Toon Tang // Sep 21, 2015 at 12:44 AM

    Football is a game of 2 halves.

    I’m here all week. Night all

  • 32 jimmysmith // Sep 21, 2015 at 12:45 AM

    Yeah, you’d expect some bumps, but Jesus. I think we need to go to Tiote and find out what his problem is, and try to get him back on board as a matter of urgency, and hope that Mitro can settle down. I think without that happening, which looks a long bow, it’s almost certainly 2 DM’s, a dearth of goals and still in the bottom six come January, and some desperate manoeuvring in the market.

  • 33 Blofal // Sep 21, 2015 at 3:13 AM

    This is my preferred team against Sheff Wed. Cisse will play because Mitrovic will be back vs Chelsea. I kind of wish we had Armstrong back because I would start him!

    Janmaat – Lacaselles – Williamson – Haidara
    Obertan – Wijnaldum – De Jong – Aarons
    —————–Perez – Cisse

    Subs: Krul, Sissoko, Coloccini, Thauvin, Colback, Gouffran, Mbemba

    That there is our entire squad!!! All the rest of the first team are injured!

    Riviere, Tiote (supposedly), Marveaux, Saylor, Dummet, Darlow

  • 34 brklyngeordie // Sep 21, 2015 at 3:28 AM

    Really think we need to take this game against Shef Wed as an opportunity to really give Lascelles and Mbemba a look as a pair Colo really is worrying and I know it’s not popular but Aarons at LB Bale played and was very good there in his early days Aarons just needs to be on field imo

  • 35 brklyngeordie // Sep 21, 2015 at 3:31 AM

    Really can’t stomach Haidara for another game not hard nosed enough for a defender and not good enough offensively to justify his selection the man cannot cross with his preferred foot all you need to know

  • 36 stuart no9 // Sep 21, 2015 at 4:22 AM

    Forget the fixture List and the hard games we’ve had and coming up . Every side in the prem Has had a hard game more than once so trying to justify our position by claiming we had to play these and we had to play them is total Bulls..t? The same as ” bedding new players in ?” Naa , other teams and players don’t suffer like we do , it’s simply a tactic used by the manager to gain time before the inevitable happens . We have heard this all before and that is why SM may not be around as long as the lady ones .
    Ok , give him time, but when £400m is up for grabs over the next 3 years via TV rights , time is of an essence and to be honest by Xmas , if we are still in bottom 3 , what’s Ashley’s cheaper option ? Pay Macca and his team off and try to preserve his £400m TV rights or keep Macca and risk losing a bloody lot of money – even by his standards, oh and his world wide advertising ( free advertising ) ash may be loyal to his employees , but he’s not an idiot . So my guess is Xmas . If he survives that long , it may come earlier .

  • 37 stuart no9 // Sep 21, 2015 at 4:26 AM

    * other ones *

  • 38 lesh // Sep 21, 2015 at 4:47 AM


    Ok it’s southern journos commenting on our current plight and they’ve been having a go about Tiote and his absence.

    Food for thought, nevertheless.

  • 39 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Sep 21, 2015 at 5:22 AM

    lesh…I have got to say that there might be a few pointers there but this might be a cliche “that was just alot of English bullsh.. at one time”;

    I always love it when Brits (not talking about you lesh) go xenophobic on everyone’s arses 😉

  • 40 willowdalerez // Sep 21, 2015 at 5:23 AM

    I’m not pleased with our start but not panicked, paranoid or frothing at the mouth about it either.

    Macca wasn’t my top choice for head coach but I believe he can do the job and Cathro was a great pickup assistant coach.

    Like everyone on here I repeatedly stated the obvious we needed to bring in another striker on top of Mitro (Austin was my choice) and a top CB but that didn’t happen and overall I was pleased with our transfer business (can’t lay this at Ashley’s feet… Charnley if anyone).

    When I really will begin to judge Macca is how we preform after Mitro’s return and in particular in our fixture with Norwich and then by ending our drought in the Derby (if Sunderland takes a 6th straight off us god help Ed this board will need a moderator 24/7). I expect with Mitro back (in check and in form) we should pick up at least 4 points in the next 4 games (at least 1 from Norwich and of course all 3 at the Stadium of Light) maybe a point off Chelsea who javen’t looked their typical form or an overconfident City (who may try to rest a player or two against our squad). I am serious about this, no joking here we have some talent in that room now mgmt has to put together a winning formula and serve Mitro some decent chances… Gini and Thauvin have time to come good its our wobbly defense that needs to get in order and Cisse needs to sit. Hope Colback gets played back and the team gets it act together… Newcastle may not be a top 4 club but the pressure is 20X that of playing for Leicester or Watford or Swansea or Palace… that’s what Cathro and Macca have got to sort out or the likes of Mitro could go the likes of an awful combination of Barton / Ben Arfa at their worst. Not worried about the midfiler plenty of talent their just need a plan, somebody to feed and some fire in their belly… What to do about Colo… I’m not a sage but I’d say he should have a personal sit down with Macca he doesn’t ant to go out the captain of relegation fodder and that mihgt not make him faster but it has to put some spirti in him and it’s all we can do until the Jan window.

  • 41 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Sep 21, 2015 at 5:33 AM

    willowdalerez…I think most people will agree the fault lies with Charnley and consequencely Ashley. Ashley might not be at the table but he has made Charnley in charge. That’s fault enough (and it’s not the first time he’s put the wrong people in charge)

    But we need to look at this so-called brave new world and new board and call it what it is “the emperor’s new clothes”;

    In four games time you have to be able to put blame on McClaren whether you think he’s a good manager or not.

  • 42 scout // Sep 21, 2015 at 5:45 AM

    Well win games we shouldn’t, thats just how it works and why bookies make millions from football bets.

  • 43 willowdalerez // Sep 21, 2015 at 6:07 AM

    Jesper – Spot on. 4 more games it is and it’s exactly what Macca asked for (I think he reckons he’ll get a smidgeon of breathing room if he can take all 3 pts in the Derby and knows a revolt is coming if he doesn’t). That’s why I will definitely be watching the Norwich fixture just as closely (their 2 wins don’t say much as they were taken off Bournemouth and Mackems).

    Jesper – let’s hope that includes a steal from Chelsea or City 😉

  • 44 SUTTY1978 // Sep 21, 2015 at 6:17 AM

    Still searching for the best team? Well perhaps you should have tried a few different formations in preseason? That way you would have found out that this team does not work in 4231 and we would not be in such a mess. Really annoying when he says were still searching for this and that but then makes an entirely predictable single change for a match and no change of shape. Strangely that lead to the entirely predictable outcome of another defeat. Get yer head out if yer arse and try something different.
    Ginger feckin Pardew

  • 45 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Sep 21, 2015 at 6:25 AM

    willowdalerez…I don’t mind being proven wrong all season if it means we won’t see a revolt!

    …don’t think we can take it this time. But one has got to wonder if Ashley will ever learn how this game played!

    If the McClaren appointed should bring one positive along it should be that finally we would have consensus between the players signed and how play!

    …or at least you would think so 😉

  • 46 chicousa // Sep 21, 2015 at 6:32 AM

    I agree, Haidara is struggling and needs to sit. Aarons needs to be on the pitch, even if LB is not his desired position. If our RB is our brightest offensive weapon, then Aarons can do same from left. I also agree that it is time to give Lascelles some game time, knowing full well he will make a few mistakes….but can’t be worse than Colo has been last few matches!

  • 47 cyprus // Sep 21, 2015 at 6:35 AM

    You’re usually quite unbiased and I agree with that approach. It keeps things calm and gives a balance. But, when it comes to Pardew, all that goes out the window. You condescendingly refer to an out ‘crew’ and how wonderful things were and would’ve been. Do check that site, if it exists still. The man was no good for NUFC, get over it man, you’re bigger than that. Really.

    Now we arrive once more to that ‘loser team’ point. Like all, I have no solution. But, things have changed dramatically recently, so we can hope they will figure it out and establish a winning mentality.

  • 48 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Sep 21, 2015 at 6:38 AM

    *how we play

  • 49 Jail for Ashley // Sep 21, 2015 at 6:40 AM

    So according to Munsterbrother, it is now Graham Carr deciding policy at the club as well as picking players !
    Munsterbrother must have a lot of inside information to be so sure of this !

  • 50 cyprus // Sep 21, 2015 at 6:46 AM

    In truth many among us (if you know what I mean) claim to know how the club is run and how decisions are made and who makes them. You are right: we don’t.

  • 51 Santon03 // Sep 21, 2015 at 6:55 AM

    Janmaat definitely a great captain material, worked hard and able to influence the team and the fans.

    Cisse shouldn’t start another game, sell him. even though we have 11 on the field, we were playing like 10 vs 11 with him on the pitch. We were able to put more pressure after he was substituted, he nolonger respect #9 shirt imo.

  • 52 Ron Knee // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:04 AM

    Regardless of Fatso’s suicidal business model, regardless of McClaren’s game plan, there was (just) enough quality on the field to beat Watford. Why do we only seem to wake up when the opposition scores -and it’s usually too late?

  • 53 cyprus // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:04 AM

    re Cisse, you are right. But let me play devil’s advocate. Our CFs have been fed scraps for quite a while now. How many through balls, chances, do they get? I know CFs make their own chances too but they need help as well. We’ve tried others there and they too look… lost. Not defending, just saying.

    An indication: Aarons does a wonderful run (and before him in the same last match Thauvin) and takes a hopeless shot, when a CF (Perez and Cisse in each case) was waiting for an easy through ball…

    I recorded it so was able to check this stuff out 🙂 ie. why so few chances for the CF.

  • 54 Ron Knee // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:09 AM

    But didn’t Cissé have a couple of good chances on Saturday and fluff them?

  • 55 cyprus // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:12 AM

    Ron, he did, you’re right, but they were ‘fluffable’ by anyone really. CFs need loads of chances, it’s the nature of the beast. Even when Shearer was involved in such games, ie. with very few chances, he’d fluff away as well.

    PS. Not defending Cisse just saying

  • 56 Ron Knee // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:15 AM

    A bit of luck going our way wouldn’t hurt, either!

  • 57 SUTTY1978 // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:16 AM

    Ron, actually we usually only wake up when they score 2, hence why we didnt even have a go at Arsenal!

  • 58 cyprus // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:17 AM

    Janm to me is a hard one. Very good going forward. ‘Brings in’ the crowd. Gave his all.

    BUT: there’s little vocal communication with the players. Defensively (even last game when he walked with MOM), he needs serious work. Much like Santon himself.

  • 59 cyprus // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:18 AM

    I do agree re the luck thing. But that was the case in that R season 🙂

  • 60 SUTTY1978 // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:18 AM

    Cyprus, i’ve been saying for a while that Carr only scouts players with good scoring records, while never looking at the players that create the chances for them. We therefore have a squad full of players who can score but dont because theres no one to pass the ball to them at the crucial time in the crucial areas.

  • 61 cyprus // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:21 AM

    No excuses, but: Opponents are scoring with one counter, one half chance… Arsenal from an OG. WH with a (first) wonder goal which 99 out of 100 would not go exactly there. Etc.

  • 62 cyprus // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:27 AM

    That seems to be the case

  • 63 bob52 // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:31 AM

    Not happy that everybody’s getting on Haidaras back for that mistake on Saturday, the lad gives his all every game, closes down, tackles , good in the air and is a threat going forward, people. I’d prefer to look at are those who don’t give 100% and Cisse stands out every game like a sore thumb.
    Attitude is the key and Haidara is one who has got it!!

  • 64 firebug666 // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:34 AM

    All it would take to get a win a play well is for the players to dredge up a little bit of pride for the shirt, and passion for the game, to stoke up the boilers and transfer that energy into the game.

    We have shown none of the above.

    McClaren says we have no identity, and he is right, without pride, passion, energy, and a will to win the club has no soul, (that was ripped out by Ashley) and without that soul there can be no identity.

    Our players are just lethargic, lazy and making up the numbers. It’s not one or two that are to blame, it’s all of them.

    These players should be pushing each other, encouraging each other berating each other for poor things, and congratulating each other for the good things.

    There is none of this in our team, 11 men tramp out onto the pitch and then 11 individuals do their own thing for 90 plus minutes, and troop off again disappointed.

    The team has no identity?

    The team has no heart or soul!

  • 65 Yorkshire Magpie // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:36 AM

    I have a bit of positive news, I’m going to the game on Saturday and this happens rarely, iv only been to 8 Newcastle games and most of them have been in cup competitions, out of them 8 games I am yet to see them loose, In my first game I saw them beat inter Milan in the champions league and my last game was the Capital One Cup victory over man city last year. I would love this to continue and ill have my fingers crossed. HWTL

  • 66 JamesToon // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:43 AM

    Has to be 442 imo against wednesday:

    De Jong-Toney

  • 67 cyprus // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:46 AM

    Yorksh, glad you’ve never seen them loose, they often are 🙂 Kidding, hope you’re luck continues!

    True, but the stats don’t exactly match. In fact, mostly, if I were to bet, I’d say they do try, a lot. e.g. Colb is third in the PL in terms of km’s covered. That’s just not lazy.

    The problem is in the final third. Despite the conceded goals, they actually look better defensively. Krul hasn’t been so busy, e.g. like that record breaking Spurs game. It’s reasonably quiet back there, despite the goals conceded.

    But, it’s surprisingly quiet up front as well. Very little is coming from the left, and scraps from the right… let me work on the solution 😉

  • 68 Santon03 // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:48 AM


    he didn’t make the effort for someone to give through balls to, when he does always flagged off side. he disappeared most of the 1st half, he had 2 chances and 2nd one didn’t even worked the gk.

  • 69 cyprus // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:48 AM

    Toney eh.Digging deep there.

  • 70 Mag52 // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:52 AM


    Re Pardew. Sorry but Ed is spot on about AP. We punched way above our weight with him as manager.

  • 71 cyprus // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:52 AM

    All true there. Except I think he does try. When I look at the close ups, I see a tired, determined and defeated man. In fact, all close ups of NUFC players are like that.
    That’s why I think, and I may well be wrong, that it’s not a lack of trying. Even of ability. Even re Cisse. It’s in terms of tactics, pre-planned moves, incisive creative through balls.

    We huff and puff more than most teams, stats say.

  • 72 cyprus // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:53 AM

    Sorry from my side too, but must disagree 🙂 I took too many spankings and embarrassing displays mate.

  • 73 firebug666 // Sep 21, 2015 at 7:54 AM


    The point is things would start to click if the players played with passion and pride, if they shouted at and to each other giving instructions etc.

    They need to be a team playing for each other but they are not.

    We have some very good players in the squad, now we need a system that will suit them and some passion from the players, then maybe we will get some favourable results.

  • 74 cyprus // Sep 21, 2015 at 8:00 AM

    True. They never seem to talk to each other, urge each other on, it’s eerie. I’ll be honest, I haven’t panicked yet, I see something there, although it’s kinda hiding 🙂 I avoid looking at that table!

    Let’s see what this Mitro guy can do… we haven’t really played with our ‘full’ team yet… but he too will need help, more chances created.

  • 75 cyprus // Sep 21, 2015 at 8:04 AM

    It’s about believing too and there’s only way to get that; start winning. But in order to start winning, you need to believe in the first place. Vicious cycle and we’re caught in a downward spiral. We need a ‘lucky’ break. A shot which will bounce off two heads and a butt, off the two posts and the goalie, then in 🙂

  • 76 firebug666 // Sep 21, 2015 at 8:08 AM


    The other day I was thinking about the problems we have, and wondering about a Mitrovic and Riviere pairing up front, in a 4-4-2 with Wijnaldum holding the midfield, and de Jong as the playmaker, Perez on the right wing and Thauvin on the left wing, would have liked another CB in but going with what we have Janmaat in his usual RB position with Colback at LB, and the maybe Taylor and Mbemba as the CB pairing.

    I know it’s a risky team but I think the time to take some risks is here.

    As for is it time to panic yet? Well I’m with BandB, I started after we got beat of York City.

  • 77 sing in the corner // Sep 21, 2015 at 8:14 AM

    Been staying off the blog a bit, trying to take stock of the situation.
    In the ground on Saturday I found it hard to believe SM played Cisse again up front 1st half, basically on his own, after the overwhelming evidence of the West ham game earlier in the week.
    I believe SM has the ability to affect a change,. but I worry about his judgement right now. I also can’t see why he wasn’t banging the door down insisting on changing the captain and bringing in the 2 CB many were calling for. Colo was the same as he was all last term. Very poor in all departments in this game. The other players see the calamity at the back and it flows through the team. They see Cisse lacklustre and continuing to be picked and that has to tell them something.
    Its been covered before but having no leader, no organiser, is IMO the biggest immediate problem. We lack punch up front of course, but no captain means we are poor at scrapping for the cause and grinding anything out as well.

  • 78 cyprus // Sep 21, 2015 at 8:21 AM

    Agree re risks. Maybe what you suggest will work.

  • 79 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Sep 21, 2015 at 8:31 AM

    “There’s Enough In That Dressing Room To Turn Things Around”

    I beg to differ. Sorry. Poor team poor attitude, no pace.

    Turn what around ? Its relegation battle all the way to the end unless we don’t go down sooner.

  • 80 davis_toons // Sep 21, 2015 at 8:33 AM

    What is happening to our scouting Network..

    “Whoever scouted Riyad Mahrez for Leicester City should be given a bonus. Then the freedom of the city. Then his own chat show. For €450,000 (£330,000), Mahrez was the best news in this part of England since foxes were told of the hunting ban.”

    ..Another “HBA”..

  • 81 toonbrother // Sep 21, 2015 at 8:38 AM

    it beggars belief mclaren has taken this long to see what a destructive influence colo is on the pitch
    Lascelles is a 100 times better
    mclaren needs to be bold and admit he got it wrong given a new contract to a player well past his expiry date
    be bold or face the sack stevie mac
    end of

  • 82 nut meg // Sep 21, 2015 at 9:02 AM

    Regarding the captain,I agree. We don’t need or want a silent Harpo Marx type.We do need & badly want a vocal leader to drive this team, to bully them if necessary,to organize,someone for them to look up to,to respect. Someone who gets the players to carry out SM instructions on the field, a REAL LEADER of men is a must not a harp playing pantomime artist.Until that happens I fear for our future.

  • 83 The overrated Frenchman // Sep 21, 2015 at 9:02 AM

    So I wonder just what happens if we are stuck in the relegation zone after ten games? Does McClaren fall on his sword and resign? Or will we simply hear more excuses. Is Ashley going to wait until the last game of the season again before he decides to be pro-active? I can just see it coming when we get relegated. McClaren; “It’s a wake up call”
    Ashley; “We’ll make our own luck in the Championship” Ed; “I blame the Sack Pardew crowd” Charnley; “We spent less on gas and electricity this year Mike” Carr; ” The extensions on the holiday house are finished. That’s my job done”

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