Poll – Can Newcastle Beat Sheffield Wednesday In League Cup?


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Newcastle will play Championship club Sheffield Wednesday on Wednesday night at St. James’ Park in the 3rd round of the League Cup and hopefully we can get a win and that would be our second win this season.

In the previous round,  we beat Northampton Town 4-1 but this will be a stiffer test – with Wednesday being in the middle of the Championship table at present.

The Owls will probably fancy their chances given Newcastle are second bottom of the Premier League with only two draws from our first six games.

It’s a win or defeat and there will be extra time and penalties if required.

How Will Newcastle Fare Against Sheffield Wednesday In League Cup?

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60 comments so far

  • Jib

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #1

    We should knock these over and put ourselves in the right frame of mind for Saturday teatime

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  • toon kk

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #2

    Looking at the way we’re playing at the moment resembles last season’s diabolical displays, then again its mainly the same gutless players.
    So I honestly can’t see where our next win can possibly come from. Same as last season we have no proven striker, so whos going to score? Mainly the same defence who can’t or won’t defend, not much pace and no creative players.
    Very poor.

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  • Graeme

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #3

    Ed, yes, of course NUFC CAN beat Sheffield on Wednesday.

    Surely, your question should be WILL NUFC beat Sheffield on Wednesday – two completely different questions.

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  • sing in the corner

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:38 PM

    Comment #4

    I’m not giving up hoping…but definitely having a holiday from predicting!

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  • toon kk

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:42 PM

    Comment #5

    The only change of picking up a point in the premier league is when we play Sunderland by a goalless draw but they have more attacking players than us and it means more to their players than ours, so we’ll loose.
    I predict we’ll go down with a record low amount of points.

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #6

    Cudda shudda wudda. A whole box of banana skins for SM as he won’t want to put too strong a team out, because he’s got bigger teams to get thrashed by next week. Bad place to be.

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #7

    I have to say it’s a fair bet we will throw the dirty mackems their customary lifeline, and revival of the season, at this rate.

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  • Jib

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:45 PM

    Comment #8

    It’s fairly clear that SM inherited a pretty disfunctional changing room which probably goes some way to explaining the retention of Colo as club captain.
    We could have appointed an Allardyce/Pulis style manager who would go through the club like a dose of salts “kicking ass” and shaking everyone up.
    I don’t think that has ever been SM’s style and in the long term I think he will prove to be the better choice.
    I’m wondering if Steve is now thinking he should have jumped ship at Derby in January and pre-empted the Carver period ,the effects of which will take ages to get over.
    Ah hindsight is a wonderful thing.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:46 PM

    Comment #9

    Jib Jibberish (the blog pest) – what’s going on behind the scenes at SJP this morning – you need to contact the club insider Uncle Peanut to get the latest griff.

    F*****g Uncle Peanut.
    Hahahahaha.

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  • Jib

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #10

    As usual a carefully thought out insightful post about NUFC by Monsieur Dur the child/adult.

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  • Tinman

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #11

    We will probably stuff them 4-0. Then get hammered in the league

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  • toon kk

    Sep 21, 2015 at 1:00 PM

    Comment #12

    Darlington had a better squad than Newcastle and they dropped out of the football league.
    Things are looking so bad folks!

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 21, 2015 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #13

    No point blaming individuals when the problem is club deep. There are problems throughout. One of the biggest is not allowing the manager to decide who he brings in. Maybe this will change now with a manager in place, but you get the feeling the transfers were decided before Macca arrived and they stuck with them. If Macca wants Austin, get him bought. Don’t allow others to decide who he has to work with when he’s capable and experienced enough to decide himself. The club has been badly run for so long that it was always going to take time to fix it. On another point, it’s no use saying the team lack confidence, whilst expecting booing to help. It doesn’t and never has. If you boo the players, you’re part of the problem – one of many problems. These are tough times and none of the players lose deliberately. With the world and his brother attacking us and hoping we get relegated, this is the time to pull together – regardless of who we blame for the situation.

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  • Jib

    Sep 21, 2015 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #14

    Well said Robert B

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  • Toonmania

    Sep 21, 2015 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #15

    My guess is McClaren & Lee Chandley will be gone by Christmas if results don’t start changing although I’m not sure how much good it will do all the time we have bad blood like Tiote, Sissoko and even the useless Colo around the place.
    these players need to go and be replaced with players who want to play for us and one’s that actually give a shite.
    If things don’t change soon I can see us getting relegated even at this early stage of the season Pardew must be laughing his socks off at us.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Sep 21, 2015 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #16

    Hello all,

    Interesting discussions on here it seems.

    I mentioned the other day that we could be seeing the effect of a toxic atmosphere behind the scenes. The more I think about it, the more I think it could be at play.

    Jib…You raise that as maybe being a reason as to why Colo was kept on. I do question though, if he’s that important to keep on to fix the issue, how come the issue came about in the first place, with him as captain?

    As for whether he wishes he had come in January instead. You can call it hindsight if you like, but a lot of people, on this blog anyway, were saying that if our managerial target wasn’t available, then we should move on as waiting could be disasterous.

    I don’t think it was just a lucky guess.

    Trust is, the club always seem to deem that we’ll be okay and have time. They don’t consider the effect this has on everyone around them though.

    Bobby…You say one of the biggest issues is the manager doesn’t have enough control, yet that is the blueprint. How or why should we expect things to improve until the club acknowledges these mistakes and then recitifies them?

    I also take on board what you’re saying about booing, but I do wonder how it is you propose fans vent their frustrations or get there point across to the club?

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  • Ibizatoon

    Sep 21, 2015 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #17

    truth is*

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  • Tinman

    Sep 21, 2015 at 1:34 PM

    Comment #18

    I still think the toxic atmosphere we are referring too will slowly evaporate with McClaren in charge and the new coaching staff in place. However it takes time to change these kind of things. I’ll give McClaren and these players some more time.

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 21, 2015 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #19

    Toonmania, with Ashley’s past record it might not be as early as Christmas. I think they’ll get longer because he’s given them three windows to turn it round and become a team that challenges. Four players was a start, but there’s a lot more to come. I understand the policy of buying with sell on value in mind, because it’s the way to generate income – but you need to buy players other teams will want in 4/5 years. We’re a young team and hopefully will grow together, but we need to get through these early stages.

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  • Jib

    Sep 21, 2015 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #20

    Ibiza
    I thought that as I typed it !

    The scenario could be – it’s bad but , if it wasn’t for Colo it would be much worse.

    We are all guessing at the inner workings of the club – but my antenna are twitching the way they have for other episodes of the soap opera that is The Toon.

    It is just too simplistic too say the squad is shite.

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 21, 2015 at 1:46 PM

    Comment #21

    Ibiza, a lot of our players are young lads. Booing them is only ever going to cause damage. Personally I just walk away if I’m unhappy, whereas I’ll stay and applaud if they’ve put up a good performance. I don’t boo because I don’t believe they don’t care or don’t try – nobody wants to lose ffs. People blame the owner, manager, board etc for our situation, then boo the players. It’s pointless and damaging. Personally, if I was that unhappy, I wouldn’t go. That simple.

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  • LGFUAD21

    Sep 21, 2015 at 1:46 PM

    Comment #22

    Interesting comments at the weekend about our bad eggs.

    The more of these types of performances I see, the more I think Pardew was on to something when he kept saying he wanted some more players like Colback.

    Pardew is still flying high at Palace. They look defensively tight and are winning games. They might not be wowing us with their football but at least they arent getting hammered. So maybe Pardew does know a thing or two about football.

    Us on the other hand are losing and playing abysmal stuff.

    The problems are so clear:
    – We play Anita and Colback together as DMs and we kill any creativity and play on the back foot.
    -We play 1 alone as a sole DM and we lack protection and get over powered.

    The problem is that we signed good young players rather than the players we needed.

    Our squad is so unbalanced:

    We lack solid CB pairing but because we have too many mediocre CBs we refuse to sign any more.

    We lack a proper defensive midfielder capable of providing cover and breaking up play.

    They shouldve paid Willo off, let Colo go and signed a big strong CB to partner Mbemba.

    As for the DM, it shouldve been a priority along with the CB. We have square pegs in round holes in the team. Colback and Anita are best at linking up play, but they cant do that well when they are having to play as defensive midfielders.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Sep 21, 2015 at 1:49 PM

    Comment #23

    Jib…I agree. Just looking at the squad is far too simplistic for me.

    I can’t deny, I have little time for our captain these days. I so struggle to think he’s one of the ones keeping things together, but that is just an opinion.

    He wasn’t even fully committed before. I wonder about the effect of Jonas leaving, or more how he left. I thought him and Colo were supposedly good mates?

    I just look around this family of ours and think, is it any wonder things aren’t going well. One too many drinks away from a family punch up. That doesn’t appear to have gone away yet. Despite our new look board and coaching team.

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  • LGFUAD21

    Sep 21, 2015 at 1:50 PM

    Comment #24

    I really want to know who the other bad eggs are though.

    Cisse obviously.

    I think the issue with Cisse and Tiote is that they have no fire left in their bellies.

    They are both past their primes, they never got their moves so they are only interested in a pay check.

    With Tiote it is worse than that as he is on a big money deal – far more than he could get elsewhere.

    Both have seen us struggle for too long, they have nothing to motivate them.

    Let’s pray we can ship both off to Turkey or the middle east soon.

    At least with Moussa, he still has a career in front of him and will play for a move (I just dont think hes good enough for a CL club)

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  • Ibizatoon

    Sep 21, 2015 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #25

    Bobby…Not having a go, but we’ll always disagree on this issue, as your fall back seems to be rather than saying something negative, just walk away. I fail to see how that helps anything or how it could be considered anything other than turning your back on this thing we love.

    I’m sure you’re aware of tough love.

    The fans need a voice, whether its a positive or negative one. Or apathy takes over, and we’ve seen what that does to SJP. No winners to be found there.

    I suppose there is always the fans forum…

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  • Ibizatoon

    Sep 21, 2015 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #26

    LGF…I do worry about this tbh. Are they bad eggs, or are they simply clued in to what is actually going on?

    I remember the general mood being that we were better off without people like Nolan, Barton etc, but in reality, those sorts have been missed greatly.

    Rather than focus on bad attitude, I’d rather question why this bad attitude has come about.

    Otherwise in 2-3 years, are we just going to be talking about Perez, De Jong, etc with bad attitudes that need replacing?

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  • Toonmania

    Sep 21, 2015 at 1:59 PM

    Comment #27

    Very true Bobbybee, but I think it will depend on our situation come December “if” we are still in this same position and with no real hope of getting out I think Ashley might make a move, you can’t be challenging in 3 windows if we are down in the Championship after 2 of em. and as much as I dislike Ashley I don’t think he want’s to see he club in the 2nd tier either

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 21, 2015 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #28

    Clearly we need to move players on and bring better ones in. The money’s there, but it’s going to take another two windows before we see the real effect on the pitch. The old guard has got to go, but we need to be careful who we bring in. Mbemba and Wijnaldum are clearly the sort of quality we should be going for. Obviously it’s too early to judge Mitrovic as we haven’t seen enough of him and Thauvin is just settling in. He probably had his best game on Saturday, so the improvement is visible. It’s crucial Mitrovic stays on the pitch either tomorrow or Saturday. (I’d give him half a game Wednesday and start him Saturday). I bought into the three windows thing so I’m not going to change after six games. It will take time, but hopefully it will be worth it.

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  • Macas

    Sep 21, 2015 at 2:10 PM

    Comment #29

    Thauvin looked even more terrified than Obertan to take his man on down the wing, and when he did he was easily tackled. Doesn’t look like the out and out winger that we so badly needed. Looked a bit better second half when he started to cut inside, so I wonder if he may be more effective played centrally, with Aarons replacing him on the wing. Not sure why he was played on the right first half though, with Sissoko in the middle.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Sep 21, 2015 at 2:10 PM

    Comment #30

    We are paying for the gutless, safety first option of appointing SM, yet another mediocre brit manager, instead of a bold option like Viera, Tuchel, Galtier and numerous others.

    They’ve given a man with a very chequered history total autonomy and appointed him to the board on top of it, largely on Carr’s say-so it would seem.

    The likes of Bilic, Flores etc are out there but we go all parochial and if it wasn’t SM, it would have been Bruce or similar.

    Carr, Charnley and SM is an unholy trinity that needs getting rid of sooner rather than later.

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  • LGFUAD21

    Sep 21, 2015 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #31

    The problem is that if the attitude of the senior players is wrong it’ll infect the team.

    Imagine if you turned up for your first day at a new job and the employers immediately started telling you everything wrong with the place.

    You’d either look to jump ship asap or you eventually get indoctrinated. I see it all the time at my place.

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  • ToonRich

    Sep 21, 2015 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #32

    We should be the Owls, but I’m not optimistic!! I live in Sheffield, and last weekend I’m told Wednesday played the best their fans had seen in years! Should have been 4-0 up against a strong Fulham side by half time. At the moment we’d struggle against some championship sides :/

    Hope to see some of the youngsters given a chance…I saw Mbabu has been training with the 1st team recently, wonder how he’s progressing?

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  • Rotonda heights

    Sep 21, 2015 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #33

    Macas

    SM is making AP look like watching Brazil!!

    More negative, more players out of position, more players not fit.

    Just the same but somehow even worse.

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  • LGFUAD21

    Sep 21, 2015 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #34

    Anyone who watched Derby last year will see that Mmclaren is capable of playing attacking stuff. Same at Twente.

    I think most of our problems come from a weak midfield that can’t do what Mcclaren wants them to do. But he has no other option.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Sep 21, 2015 at 2:14 PM

    Comment #35

    Jib Jibberish (the blog pest) you’ve just posted :-
    “We are all guessing at the inner workings of the club……..”.

    Don’t leave things like this to chance about what may or may not be – get the latest griff from Uncle Peanut (club insider).

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 21, 2015 at 2:17 PM

    Comment #36

    Ibiza, I never have, nor ever will boo players. I might if I thought they were’nt trying, but I don’t believe that. I take a long term view on it, rather than a spur of the moment reaction. Booing damages confidence, therefore long term it doesn’t help. The players know the difference between walking off to warm applause and walking off to silence, without having to make them nervous about the next game. Tough love? These are not naughty children we’re dealing with ffs. Right now, virtually everybody in the country – football wise – is wanting the club to fail. They want us relegated for several reasons, some involving Ashley and some involving our own fans. They say we deserve it, blah blah blah. If ever we needed to pull together as a club, it’s right now. Regardless of who you blame for the situation, it’s currently the footballing world against NUFC and we don’t need to rip ourselves apart to please those w@nkers.

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  • JAMSHA

    Sep 21, 2015 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #37

    Jann————–colo———-willo—————-hidera

    Thauvin————anita——–sissoko————-aarons

    ———————–Perez————Gufo

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  • DaraghL

    Sep 21, 2015 at 2:22 PM

    Comment #38

    Living in Dublin I don’t get to travel to many games. As a nice early birthday present from my sister who now lives in Newcastle I was treated to a lovely meal and a ticket to the match. Even got myself the new jersey with Wijnaldum on the back as a gift from the family.

    Next year I’ll just ask for socks.

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 21, 2015 at 2:22 PM

    Comment #39

    Toon rich, I wenta to the U21’s v arsenal last friday abd Mbabu was motm by a distance. First at right back, then following the red card at CB. He’s looking to be back to all that promise he showed in the Academy and deserves to be training with the first team. Hopefully he’ll get a run out tomorrow night if he’s not with the U21’s in London.

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  • bettyswallocks

    Sep 21, 2015 at 2:27 PM

    Comment #40

    Unfortunately we are now back on the vicious circle. The more we lose games, the more the frustration and anger sets in. This then creates tension on the terraces, which creates over cautious hesitant play with any adventurous pass that goes astray resulting in groans of more frustration. The lack of a leader on the pitch means we have 11 individuals, all lacking in confidence and direction.

    Keegan was the only manager that could transmit his enthusiasm and self belief to the players. All the others like Souness , Allardyce, Dalglish etc have all said that once the tension from the fans transmits to the team, then they can’t play.

    There was supposed to be a remit for new signings this summer that they had the gonads to play under pressure and retain their ability. They will need to find some confidence pretty damn quick or we are doomed for sure.

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