Why Has Nothing Seemed To Change This Season?

If you just look at Newcastle’s results in the eight games we have played so far this season we have only one win, against a League Two Side and five defeats, and in five of those games we haven’t scored.

So nothing much seems to have changed from last season when in our last eleven league games we had one win and nine defeats under John Carver, and we failed to score in five of those games.

worried looking mike ashley yesterday

Mike Ashley and Lee Charnley shown on May 24th against West Ham

We still find it very difficult to score goals and in the final third of the field we are powder puff and just cannot put the ball into the back of the net

In defense, we are still too porous and opposing teams find it too easy to score goals against us.

We are also starting to lose games in the first half and concede early goals like we did against West Ham and Watford.

There are some good signs this season and our performances at Manchester United and Arsenal are better than  any we gave in the second half of last season in terms of a defensive performance.

But in our last three games, which have been against weaker opponents we have hardly looked resilient and have found it difficult to score goals.

In the last two seasons – the first two under the three year £3.1B deal – we have received around £80M from the Premier League and are likely to receive a similar amount next May – wherever we finally finish up in the league.

Then the total Premier League money goes up to £5B for the next three years, an increase of 70% and we are likely to start to receive around £136M for the three years after next May.

That’s assuming we stay in the Premier League.

Mike Ashley is not going to take kindly to a relegation next May, especially after he gave out £52M to Lee Charnley and the Board to bring in new players this summer to strengthen the squad.

It’s hard to say Charnley has done his job and got the best bang for the buck with the players we have brought in over the summer – not yet anyway.

So we have to assume that if things don’t improve fairly soon, Ashley will  helicopter into Newcastle and have a high-level meeting and try to find out exactly what’s wrong at Newcastle.

Ashley will also want to ensure that Charnley and the Board have identified players we can bring in during the January transfer window to strengthen the squad.

Of the four players we have brought in over the summer only Mbemba and Wijnaldum have performed anywhere near their potential and Thauvin and Mitrovic have struggled so far.

It’s not quite a crisis right now at Newcastle, but defeats against Chelsea and Manchester City will mean one win in our first ten games and seven defeats.

That’s not good and that’s a crisis.

Comments welcome.

92 comments so far

  • lochinvar

    Sep 24, 2015 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #1

    Cardiff City are giving fans the chance to select the songs played at games by introducing a ‘Bluebirds Jukebox’. (Wales Online)

    We could have our own version of ” Toon Tunes ”
    First track would be ” The theme from Lost ”

    Others ?

  • jayphoto

    Sep 24, 2015 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #2

    One thing is for sure, that Norwich game is absolutely huge in October! Think if we have less than 6 points after the Mackem game (Which is quite possible) McClaren will resign. Traditionally he’s not one to stick around ala carver and pardew when he’s out of ideas

  • jayphoto

    Sep 24, 2015 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #3

    @Lochinvar – talking heads – we’re on a road to nowhere?

  • davetoon

    Sep 24, 2015 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #4

    @jayphoto Gold, thats the first song that came into my mind also 😀

    on another note – i heard the other day that SMc now has only 3 wins in his past 19 games with Newcastle and Derby. Is that true?

  • Goldmbemba

    Sep 24, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #5

    Situations like this are a reminder not to make a football club your idol.

  • Rotonda heights

    Sep 24, 2015 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #6

    We had 3 Dutch players who played in the World Cup semi finals last year and we were playing at home against a championship team who had made 10 changes from their normal line – up!!

    Absolutely shameful. SM was never the right choice, he was just the ”safe” choice. Yet another mediocre Brit manager palmed off on the fans, when we were crying out for a new direction under a Tuchel / Viera type.

    Carr, Charnley and SM simply don’t cut it at a club with 50000+ home fans.

    I still think we have some excellent players, yes not enough and we have some shockers too, but we have just had this endless procession of dour, uninspiring managers like Dalglish, Souness, Allardyce, Pardew, Carver, and now SM.

    None of the latter are exactly blue sky thinkers and they have all just served up a feast of defensive, long ball non – football for what seems an eternity now.

    With regular relegation flirtations they are hardly what you’d call safe options either.

  • jayphoto

    Sep 24, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #7

    yea against Blackpool Wigan and Northampton…. so 2 now league one clubs and a league 2 club…
    Feel for McClaren, not sure the results are his fault, the stench was around the first team long before he came

  • lesh

    Sep 24, 2015 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #8

    Jayphoto Lochinvar

    As they’re Burning Down the House too!

  • Rotonda heights

    Sep 24, 2015 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #9


    at this rate SM will break carver’s and AP’s record losing sequences

  • Toontaff

    Sep 24, 2015 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #10

    As soon as the wally with the brolly was named manager I knew we would struggle ,, no decent manager would have given colo a new deal never mind make him captain and a proper boss would not have bought that useless cart horse French winger especially when we got young arrons

  • Rotonda heights

    Sep 24, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #11


    The way we are set up is so negative though. if we can’t even attack a championship reserve team at home with 5 dutch internationals in the team the writing is on the wall.

    yes there has been a stench around the place but it is only being perpetuated by someone who plays totally defensive football, despite having 4 quality (on paper) new players come in.

  • Slank

    Sep 24, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #12

    The problem could be any one or a combination of these:

    The coaching staff are not good enough even though in general the players are good enough.

    The coaching staff are good enough but the players in general aren’t good enough.

    The coaching staff and players aren’t good enough.

    The tactics and formation is not suitable for the players available.

    The stadium and crowd are fatalistic which has rubbed off on the players as has been suggested by the Chronicle (Is it by the tension of playing at a ground where the default setting is fatalistic? Or is it the system that is discouraging individuality? It’s probably a bit of both but even players who had a bit of spark and invention under John Carver seemed to have been cowed in recent weeks. )

    The tactics and formation is suitable for the players, the coaching staff and players are good enough but something (the ‘X’ factor) has not been found. Will it be found is the question.

    Strange as it may seem I expect us to beat Chelsea and draw at Man City.

  • Rotonda heights

    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #13


    you’re not wrong. add selling abeid and kemen, dropping aarons and perez, not hooking janmatt at swansea when everyone could see he was going to see red, etc, etc.

    SM is a much more likeable character than either AP or JC and isn’t abusive at the drop of a hat, but he still has shown no sign of a plan B or setting up to attack.

  • jayphoto

    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #14

    @Rotonda – yeah I agree with that. We’ve got the players to at least go out and have a go. If anything we’ve got the personnel to be more suited to attacking than defending. I mean, pretty sure we were in the bottom 3 for worst defences last year…? why do managers see our godawful defence and make it their game plan

  • davetoon

    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #15

    i was one that didnt want McClaren or think he was a good fit but now that he;s here – we have to give him time. I would say bottom 3 at Christmas would be my tipping point.

    Watching Tuchel manage so well at Dortmund where that could have easily gone wrong after their Talisman left makes me think more about what could have been

  • Rotonda heights

    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #16


    th odds on that double must be off the scale!!

  • sickandtired

    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #17

    4-2-3-1 now played under the third ‘coach’ in the hot seat in a row. Sorry like, but to me it’s clear that tactics as well as signings are being instructed from above.
    Ashley’s model of ‘ultimate’ control is the cause of it all, not whoever sits in the dug out. McClaren was never the man for the job – but whoever that actually is, is someone Ashley wouldn’t want anyway.
    NO Manager here – that’s the official policy. That’s as busted right now as it has been for the 9 seasons Ashley and his boot licking appointments have been here trying to re-invent the football wheel.

  • Slank

    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #18

    Rotonda @ 6

    If you believe in ‘horses for courses’ you would know from past history that our achievements have not been the stuff of legend in this and all previous incantations of this cup competition. Getting knocked out early in the competition appears to be par for the course.


    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #19

    Queen under pressure

  • Slank

    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #20

    Rotonda @ 16

    Worth a bet or two though !


    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #21

    Or any song from the album appetite for destruction by guns and roses…just for the album title


    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #22

    That would be se odds!


    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #23


  • Rotonda heights

    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #24

    sick and tired

    As a conspiracy theory I’m not sure ashey even knows what a 4231 or 433 or 451 is, let alone dictate it!!! His knowlege of football could be written on a postage stamp.

    Lochinvar you were so spot on when you said ”
    lochinvar // Sep 24, 2015 at 9:18 AM

    Mclaren is the face of beige. He was the safe bet that Charnley and Carr predictably turned to after Carver rather than having the vision of starting a new era at the club.

    There’s a book out there “How not to run a business.” .. NUFC have many chapters

  • Slank

    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #25

    I think beating Chelsea and drawing at Man City come under the heading of ‘sods law’

  • sickandtired

    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #26

    @Rotanda – that’s why he clearly gives Carr so much power.

  • Beavis

    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #27

    I think that beating Chelski & drawing against Man City comes under the heading of fantasy! Never mind 4-2-3-1, at the weekend we’ll play a 6-3-1 setup & attempt to park the bus for a point.

    Back to last night though, Simpson was in the technical area directing things for the vast majority of the match so clearly us passing the ball backwards & forwards across the back 4 and, in the first half at least, Janmaat & Mbemba being so high up the pitch was by design. Clearly us mere mortals don’t have the capacity to understand what they were trying to do!

  • The overrated Frenchman

    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #28

    Why has nothing seemed to change?…asks Ed…seriously, how can you not see the answer writ large. Ashley. Carr. Charnley. Dysfunctional squad. Inadequate head coach. Same old formula. Why would anything be different? Wasn’t this season always going to be another train wreck waiting to happen?

  • Jib

    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #29

    Rotondas Law

    Only foreign managers are any good.
    Only English players are any good.

    I’ve heard of bi-polar
    Never heard of bi-xenophobic

  • Rotonda heights

    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #30

    sick and tired

    i’m very worried about the power carr has. shocking record as a manager and people who know him tell me his style was shocking

  • Tinman

    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #31

    In all seriousness, for a long time I wanted to hear a players song choice at half time. Could get that player extra pumped up (even 0.1% is better). Also lets fans get to know the player a little better and build a stronger relationship, which is important.

  • Tinman

    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #32

    When we come to what is wrong with the team my gaze fixes mainly on one man, Moussa Sissoko (He is the top of a long list).

    Picking out individuals may be harsh but I feel it is justified in this case. He is lazy, looks disinterested during the game and thinks he is better than Newcastle. He shows class in bursts, with the right application he could be a monster.

    I heard McClaren and Simpson shouting at the players to get the ball forwards last night. Pass it quicker they said. Get it forwards they said. The players continued to pass sideways.
    Sissoko was called over, being a senior figure and a ‘key player’, McClaren spoke to him for around about 90 seconds, he was animated, waving his arms around and I could hear him telling Mouss to get it forwards faster, inject pace and up the tempo. The reaction from Sissoko was to shrug his shoulders, spin on his heel and trot off. An awful reaction. Disinterested. Didn’t care. No respect for the manager.

    Maybe that is McClaren’s fault. Does he have the balls to drop players who won’t listen to him? Time will tell. But if he doesn’t then he will go, the players will remain and the same problem will repeat once more.

  • bettyswallocks

    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #33

    We have had the fewest shots on goal of any team in the football league including the conference, confirmed this morning on talk sport. This team is not working and it was clear for all to see at West Ham that we do not look like scoring . Is there a solution?

    The only possible hope we haveuntil January when maybe something can be done in the transfer window is to get the ball to Mitrovic either from the wings or with a forward pass, and either he tries to score or holds it up for someone else to score.

    Now that’s not too complicated is it. I hope someone from the club reads this and passes it on to the coaching team as they seem to have recognised the problem but can’t find a solution.

  • Rotonda heights

    Sep 24, 2015 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #34


    There is something very wrong in the state of denmark when we can’t fashion any chances from Wijnaldum. Thauvin, De Jong, Sissoko etc.

    These aren’t the worst players by any means, but it’s as if they have no respect for the manager or what he’s trying to do.

    We never see any killer through balls or cut backs for onrushing players to score, just endless hopeful crosses to a big lumbering target man when he manages to stay on the pitch.

    It’s like Crouch v croatia every week.
    SM doesn’t seem to have moved on that effectively.

  • terencelim

    Sep 24, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #35

    Because you can’t achieve positive outcome with negative intention.


  • beefman13

    Sep 24, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #36

    Says something when a half strength Sheffield Wed fancy their chances big time away from home against us, We have no fear factor at all, wa all jelly n custard. another cup chance gone; Mike still here for that bit longer!!!

  • Ibizatoon

    Sep 24, 2015 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #37

    Ed…Do you actually mean to ask that question?

    It has appeared recently that you don’t really have much time for those who were questioning whether a corner had been turned or not.

    I do completely understand the desire to be positive about our club, I also get that after a defeat we all feel the same pain. What I don’t understand though, is why when some have flipped back in to positive mode, they suddenly have no time for, and even look down on those who haven’t.

    There’s no right or wrong way to feel about our club at present. Not sure anyone can say things are rosy though. What’s more worrying is that it appears, from his comments, that Steve doesn’t know what they are and is simply just waiting for this all to just click in to place.

    For fans to have blind faith is understandable, but the manager?

    Something needs a shake up. We can’t bring new players in, it is still early to be talking about replacing McClaren, so he’s going to have to make some bold decisions to get this current squad peforming better and quickly.

    So much for my prediction of a win.

  • hibbit

    Sep 24, 2015 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #38

    sheffield had us in there pocket from the ko they knew how we would play and stopped us in our tracks with a solid team performance they looked like the prem team /home team we were like a rabbit in the headlights no guts no pride shocking they should be ashamed and Mc clapping the crowd at the end what a fool

  • AncientC

    Sep 24, 2015 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #39

    No change has been implemented, therefore it stands to reason that nothing has changed.

    The recruitment policy of players & managers is effectively the exact same.

    Anybody would think we were in the same boat as Barcelona were, when they were attempting to replace Guardiola… bringing in a manager closest to the status-quo, and giving him a few more players based on the same old philosophy.

    Same English manager with a dubious record.
    Same players with ‘potential’ being bought. (Potential being the same old money saving exercise)
    Practically the same football with an isolated striker.
    The exact same outlook of Newcastle not being in the same league as the Swansea’s, Everton’s, or, Southampton’s of English football.

    The question here should be, “has anything changed at all”?

  • hibbit

    Sep 24, 2015 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #40

    Ibiza …we never looked like scoring never mind winning


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