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Lee Charnley Should Put These Plans In Place Now

9:35 am, Friday, September 25th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 117 Comments

One of the things that identify good and successful companies is the level of planning they do and you see detailed planning behind all of the most successful companies.

And one of the things that caused Newcastle United´s precipitous fall from grace from last January was a lack of foresight from the person running the club – Lee Charnley.

Maybe it was just a lack of experience in the job.

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Lee Charnley should always be thinking ahead

Lee admitted that he had no plan to replace Alan Pardew when Alan left in early January and that it was a total surprise to him.

That was even after the early season troubles when our results were hopeless and there were demonstrations from some fans that Pardew be sacked.

Why hadn´t Charnley thought through what he would do if Alan kept losing games  before we finally won at home to Leicester and then had some very good results?

And Charnley then compounded that first mistake by putting the inexperienced and untested John Carver in charge mainly because it was the easy choice – he was already there.

And even when it became obvious to most that Carver was simply out of his depth and was saying weird and strange things during his press conferences Charnley didn´t make a move to replace him.

Well not until it was too late with Newcastle flirting with relegation and Charnley was lucky we won our last game of the season an were not caught by Hull in that final game.

He was lucky because he had done absolutely nothing to correct a very bad situation.

We cannot imagine that Mike Ashley was too happy with that.

Lee Charnley hopefully is now working with the rest of the Board to see who we can bring in during January and getting from Mike Ashley exactly how much money can be made available at that time.

And the other thing he must do is have a plan for what he will do if Steve McClaren presides over the real disaster scenario that say – Newcastle lose the next five games.

We hope that doesn´t happen, but that thinking has to be done now.

It´s not negative to do that early on, so that Newcastle are not again caught flat-footed as we were last season when Alan walked out the door.

That´s the work the Managing Director needs to do.

Lee has only been in the job 18 months and at the end of the 2013-2014 season we lost seven of our last eight games.

Newcastle then had a bad start to last season and then Alan Pardew left and we only just survived – and now we are in trouble again at the start of this season with Steve McClaren – who Lee appointed.

So an awful  lot has happened in  the 18 months since Lee Charnley was appointed Managing Director, most of it unfortunately negative.

One last thought – we wonder when the plans for the new state-of-the-art training ground at Benton will start to be implemented?

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Financial Fair Play · Financials · Management · Newcastle News




117 responses so far ↓

  • 1 hibbit // Sep 25, 2015 at 9:38 AM

    this is PR damage limitation they seen the fans mood change in the last game and our pr guru keith bishop was at the game the pr shit will come thick and fast now to try and calm the uprising that they know is coming

  • 2 Jib // Sep 25, 2015 at 9:45 AM

    Hibbit man it’s an interview with a player who has been at the club for 10 weeks , was the Eredivisie player of last season and who is clearly shellshocked and thinks the club doesn’t do what it says on the tin .

    Do you actually know what PR stands for ?

  • 3 ShirebrookToon // Sep 25, 2015 at 10:00 AM

    how many will we concede tomorrow I wonder

  • 4 barkel // Sep 25, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    I think we need to go gung-ho tomorrow, all out attack for the first 20-25mins and try to force a goal. It’s the only way the team will get the crowd excited and we all know what a great place St James’ is when the crowd are in full voice

  • 5 stan anderson // Sep 25, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    In all honesty if we were to get stuffed the next 2 games by double figure scores i would not be to upset.It would just show how piss poor we are.
    I dont want it to happen,but i do expect a tonking.

  • 6 Rotonda heights // Sep 25, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Ed

    We have simply paid the price yet again for going for the ”safe” option in SM. Another bang average, mediocre Brit manager who had a couple of seasons in the sun way back when.

    Tuchel, Viera and a host of better more exciting, dynamic options were out there but Carr cosied up to SM afte rhe rejected us twice and look where we are now. This club has no self respect whatsoever.

  • 7 stan anderson // Sep 25, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Wishful thinking Barkel.If only it would happen,but it wont .We will try to contain them and get clobbered as they will score early on and we will not have a plan B.

  • 8 Rotonda heights // Sep 25, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    barkel

    I don’t think SM has realised that we actually want to see our team attack!! Same with Allardyce, AP, Dalglish, Souness etc etc. Only KK & SBR seemed to get that.

  • 9 hibbit // Sep 25, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    jib i do know what pr stands for and the the club use it like north korea bishop is a master in the art damage limitation and the damage was done on wednesday night…. the staff and players dont just give these interviews promising to do better there stage managed not for the fans but to try control the situation to the clubs advantage the mood in the crowd changed in that game big time and the club know the next 3 games are going decide the mood of the fans for the rest of the season if the players had put the effort in on wednesday the fans would have been a lot more tolerant in the next 3 games but they didn’t did they hence the pr blitz

  • 10 Jib // Sep 25, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    Unless the team start like a train , the crowd will get on their backs – whoops Steve Howey talking about the toon on SSN – he’s saying the same as me – fans can accept defeat – it happens – but they require players to show commitment to the cause it is time to for everyone to get on the players cases .

  • 11 Blofal // Sep 25, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    http://www.skysports.com/football/news/29210/10004890/yohan-cabayes-defensive-qualities-are-benefiting-crystal-palace?

  • 12 Ian Toon // Sep 25, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    Rotonda- I have it on good authority that were not in for Klopp as Manager/ Coach
    to replace Macca. But it’s not all bad news as his twin brother Klippity is in the frame.

  • 13 scrotty // Sep 25, 2015 at 10:43 AM

    Has anyone else noticed the ironic fact that the type of player this squad is missing is a Joey Barton type figure. I’m not sure if he still has no club but at this moment in time I’d have him back.

  • 14 runheed // Sep 25, 2015 at 10:45 AM

    Rotunda…. You have, as they say, hit the nail on the head as usual. That, my fine friend is exactly what we want to see. That is what the game is and should be all about. Attack is the only real philosophy of football. Does anyone have an alternative?

  • 15 runheed // Sep 25, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    Jib. Nice backup comment. We want to see them look like they have some intent.

  • 16 Oldgit1 // Sep 25, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Here’s a plan, drop sissisco and put his World Cup plans down the toilet.

    Persevere with obreton on the right wing, move Mbamba upto a defensive midfielder. And bring in mike Williamson as C H. Sorted.

  • 17 barkel // Sep 25, 2015 at 11:00 AM

    @Oldgit1

    Is sissisco a player we’re going to buy before the world cup in 2018? 🙂

    Seriously tho, I think we should keep Mbemba as a centre half, I would however bring in another centre half and go either 3 at the back with wing back or 5 at the back and Colo as a sweeper

  • 18 Sav // Sep 25, 2015 at 11:02 AM

    I think we are under the illusion that Charnley actually knows anyone in football or could pick a good manager if he had a choice. He is an accountant. Bob Moncur has been on the outside too long, Carr is largely overseas and seems to have his own agenda and obviously, he can’t ask Macca. We’ve had this situation before with Ashley (Joe Kinnear, anyone?) and Llambias the casino manager. Charmless is out of his depth. If Macca goes, it may be Caithro who gets promoted, if only because the Chinless One knows where to reach him.

  • 19 beefman13 // Sep 25, 2015 at 11:06 AM

    barkel i always thought Colo would make a very good sweeper and even Anita for that, but Mclaren is rigid in this one up front stay in the prem bollocks, which isnt working at all, every team we play have us sussed, i still say our Academy sized midfield has no fear factor or forward thinking to it, we are in a mess, i dont know how they can look at themselves in the mirror, even while shaving!

  • 20 jimmysmith // Sep 25, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    This team wants to attack, but has lacked a player to hit, in the absence of Mitro. Macca, like Pardew before him, wants to attack, but without the right outlets up top, is quite rightly worried about getting a pasting if we leave ourselves exposed at the back. Teams will just soak it up, and do you on the counter attack, especially us, so low on confidence.

  • 21 beefman13 // Sep 25, 2015 at 11:19 AM

    last season we started appallingly, young Aarons was introduced, mainly through injury and we started flying, and i give that kid a lot of credit for our turnaround, then he gets injured and we just were not the same, did he make such a difference i really think he did, now this year he has been in and out, with Mclaren saying he is bringing him along slowly, utter utter horsecrap , if you are good enough you are in, simple as. look at Martial and Stirling etc, and while Aarons may not be at that level yet he is for me one of the first on the teamsheet.

    Mclaren, this job has pressures mounting by the day, you cant escape, you could for England.

  • 22 AncientC // Sep 25, 2015 at 11:23 AM

    Carver deserved his chance at the gaffer role – it may not have worked out, but I don’t have a problem with that decision. Carver comes in for some criticism that seems almost personal, which I don’t quite understand.

    For me, I enjoyed Carver stepping up and calling a few players out… at the very least it showed he cared.

  • 23 The overrated Frenchman // Sep 25, 2015 at 11:24 AM

    Off-topic I know, but has everyone been as surprised as me with Windjalum? (never know if I’ve spelt that right). Technically average at best (being kind), lacks stamina, no physical presence, poor awareness of what’s happening around him. I wondered why he wasn’t a target for bigger clubs, but it’s obvious now. They have proper scouts who can see these things even in a lesser league. No doubt he’ll give us the odd good performance (like Anita) but I think we have yet another duck egg on our hands.

  • 24 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 25, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    “And even when it became obvious to most that Carver was simply out of his depth and was saying weird and strange things during his press conferences Charnley didn´t make a move to replace him.”

    Do you reckon Makro is out of his depth, Ed? You’ve criticised Carver relentlessly, even in umpteen posts that have nothing to do with him. You have always highlighted Carver’s weird utterances at press conferences, but now you appear to be shifting the emphasis to that as you increasingly realise he didn’t have such an easy job. (You’ve just stated in a previous article that Makro has a better squad.)

    What’s weirder than anything Carver ever said or did is Makro’s inane grin after every defeat as if he’s just been pleasured. What do you say about that?

    You’ve criticised Charnley. Has he made the wrong choice again? Is it obvious to you now that Makro is out of his depth? Or are you backing Makro as the right man for the job going forward from today?

  • 25 hibbit // Sep 25, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    blackley by all accounts Mc was carrs choice not charnley

  • 26 The overrated Frenchman // Sep 25, 2015 at 11:35 AM

    McClaren’s inane/smug/smarmy and generally annoying grin has gotten under everyone’s skin at a million miles an hour it seems….

  • 27 archaeomag // Sep 25, 2015 at 11:46 AM

    @ED
    “Lee Charnley should always be thinking ahead”

    You assume that he is capable “thinking”- I think the jury is out on that one.
    Looks like a rabbit starring into the oncoming headlights.

  • 28 Lindisfarne // Sep 25, 2015 at 11:53 AM

    If we are going to lose then we may as well give an opportunity to players who are not regular starters. There is no culpability and only the potential to win a starting place in the first team. Those who have played consistently poorly over the last three games should not be able to take to the field, as they represent the great amount of frustration that Supporters feel and need to see addressed.

  • 29 jimmysmith // Sep 25, 2015 at 11:59 AM

    De Jong needs to play now that he’s fit. He’s a mature player and this is a crisis happening that needs to be contained. Widj and Sissoko i’d partner behind him alternately holding while the other gets forwars. They’ve both played there and are two of our more dynamic players. Mitro as an outlet up top, and Perez and Aarons, I think, buzzing around him. Aarons deserves a run if only because he’s the only one he hasn’t been handed his chance, and of course we know of his great natural ability. I think that side would get stuck in and not get outmuscled and would also have something going forward. Anita can sit down and Colback can play at left back.

  • 30 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:05 PM

    Hibbit
    I don’t buy the line that Charnley takes the old man’s list and draws a red line through his top player choices. Charnley is not a football man. He should have no input on the player side other than negotiating in accordance with the old man’s assessment of worth. Is anyone saying that Charnley is qualified to assess a player’s worth? And the old man must surely know his budget and criteria when drawing up his list?

    But when it comes to the choice of a manager/coach/figurehead, chief executives will invariably have a strong view and the final say along with the owner. In our case, I reckon Lucky Lee has fancied Makro and taken comfort from the old man’s blessing. Anyone who knew next to nothing about football could point to Makro’s considerable experience and say that’s why I appointed him.

  • 31 bettyswallocks // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:05 PM

    Thinking logically about our tactics to date, we haven’t had any real options going forward without a proper frontman to hit balls to whether long or short.
    To try and play the ball up to a pipe cleaner with a pea stuck on top , it’s obviously not going to stick and get held up for others to join the attack.

    I’m hoping Mitro is as good as I think he is and can keep his cool enough to become the saviour we need now . What a chance for him to become a hero.

  • 32 Munster Mag // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:06 PM

    At this point, we need a manager with real personality and “zing” , to get the team believing and attacking. Sadly we have got SMC and its that dull inane grin again…

  • 33 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:06 PM

    Prediction New 0 Chelski 7

    next game

    also drubbing of epic proportions…

    Then panic ensues and we will only get worse.
    People are right, its not a relegation fight…

    its just relegation, I actually do rate Mitrovic funny enough.

  • 34 Rotonda heights // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:08 PM

    Ian

    The old ones are the old ones

  • 35 Rotonda heights // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:09 PM

    Cheers Runheed

  • 36 Rotonda heights // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:11 PM

    lots of poor managers have a wealth of experience (of being poor)

  • 37 bettyswallocks // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:13 PM

    Scrotty….. I would have Barton back in an instant ,baggage and all he would generate some motivation and has plenty of PL experience to help get us out of this mess.

  • 38 Rotonda heights // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:14 PM

    Appointing inadequate managers doesn’t make it an easy job for them.

  • 39 Rotonda heights // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:17 PM

    betty

    that said he didn’t keep us last time (sending off at liverpool with shearer glaring at him sticks in the mind) He hardly helped QPR’s cause either. 2 relegations already, wouldn’t want him to make it a triple, although some fire and passion certainly wouldn’t go amiss.

  • 40 Ian Toon // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:19 PM

    The Daily Telegraph – by Luke Edwards. Friday 25th September 2015
    Mike Ashley, the Newcastle United owner, will remain loyal to under-fire managing director Lee Charnley and chief scout Graham Carr as they draw up plans for a risky January overhaul of the first-team squad. Carr and Charnley have attracted intense criticism for the way they have conducted player recruitment, focusing entirely on young players from abroad, with head coach Steve McClaren floundering as he tries to improve results.
    The quality of the four players signed in the summer at a cost of more than £50 million – players described as “exceptional” and capable of making an “immediate impact” by Charnley in an email to season-ticket holders – has also been questioned.
    Carr was responsible for recommending all of them and his recent track record in the transfer market is poor.
    But, rather than dismiss the two most powerful men at St James’ Park and bring in new people to run the club in his absence, Ashley is determined to show he will not be swayed by public pressure or media criticism and will sanction more signings in the January window.
    Carr, though, could be replaced in the summer as he is almost 71 and McClaren will argue the case for a more innovative technical or sporting director to help Charnley with recruitment.
    The transfer kitty will be supplemented by player sales, with ­McClaren keen to rid the dressing room of the players whose poor
    attitude, flimsy commitment and flaky mentality have left him facing calls for his removal after just eight games on Tyneside.
    McClaren defended them publicly, but Newcastle are expected to listen to offers for Cheick Tioté, Papiss Cissé, Gabriel Obertan, Vurnon Anita and Moussa Sissoko in the new year. They will also sell the likes of Mike Williamson, Sylvain Marveaux and Yoan Gouffran if ­anyone is willing to take them.
    Carrying out a major overhaul of the squad in the middle of the season is a gamble, but it will suit ­McClaren if he can persuade his squad they are playing for their ­futures, even if it is to earn a move.
    McClaren is not under any immediate threat as he holds a place on the board and there is sympathy for him because of the problems he inherited. Instead, he will push for players to be signed in January who have already played in the Premier League or who have international experience.
    Despite his place on the board, McClaren was repeatedly overruled in the summer, most notably on the non-signing of Queens Park Rangers striker Charlie Austin. When he asked for an experienced international centre-back, Newcastle decided to extend the contract of captain Fabricio Coloccini instead.
    The faith in McClaren could vanish if David Moyes became available, although his problems at Real Socieded were eased by victory over Grenada on Tuesday night.
    Moyes, however, would not work as a head coach without the final say on players coming in or out. McClaren is willing to work under those conditions, which is one of the reasons he was the only candidate interviewed to become Alan Pardew’s permanent replacement.
    Newcastle began the campaign with optimism after signing Aleksandar Mitrovic, Chancel Mbemba, Florian Thauvin and Gini Wijnaldum, but McClaren inherited too many players who either wanted to leave or who had already shown they are not good enough.
    The tension in the dressing room has been hinted at by both goalkeeper Tim Krul and new signing Wijnaldum. Asked what needed to change for Newcastle to recover, Wijnaldum replied: “I think the attitude – we must stay positive because if we don’t stay positive it is going to go wrong, but we need men now out on the field. Players who want to work hard and give everything to get a good result.”
    Krul added: “Everybody has to look at themselves in the mirror and ask if they gave everything [against Sheffield Wednesday]. If not, they have to start straight away, because what we are doing at the moment is really not good enough. Everybody needs to grow now. We need to come out and show we are real men.”

  • 41 Rotonda heights // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:20 PM

    aarons, abeid and perez were the bright spots last season. Now abeid and kemen have gone and SM clearly doesn’t fancy aarons and rarely starts Perez.

    If SM’s only game plan is to stick with the tortuous 4231 and just keep hitting hopeful high crosses, it’s going to be a long old season.

  • 42 barkel // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:22 PM

    Pretty sure Barton signed at Burnley, I think Nolan is still free though after leaving West Ham, would be good to have him against the Mackems! We have named 25 players though so we’re stuck with what we’ve got unless we can find some exceptionally gifted kids!

  • 43 Rotonda heights // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:26 PM

    beef

    always thought colo could do a job sweeping behind MBemba and possibly Lascelles with wing backs getting forward but SM seems really rigid w.ith his 4231

  • 44 Rotonda heights // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:30 PM

    oldgit at 16

    ” bring in obertan and willo and we’re sorted”
    Either you were being ironic or I think you need to up the dose!

  • 45 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:33 PM

    Like Pardew before him, Makro was pleased with his squad before a ball was kicked. He may not have been talking about Europe like Pardew, but like Pardew, he was shocked at how the players performed. Its the manager’s job to assess the squad’s strengths and weaknesses but neither of them saw it coming.

  • 46 Lindisfarne // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:36 PM

    Jimmysmith

    433 would seem the most obvious formation to play with our supposedly most talented players.

  • 47 bettyswallocks // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:39 PM

    Rotonda……. At least Barton could cross the ball accurately , I remember him creating a lot of chances for Carroll. We don’t have anyone at all that can put the ball in the box with any consistency .

  • 48 John Tudor // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:40 PM

    maybe he will be swayed by relegation when its too late

  • 49 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:41 PM

    If De Jong and Aarons are the answer, what’s the question?

  • 50 John Tudor // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:42 PM

    “Too late too late was the cry”

  • 51 John Tudor // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:43 PM

    or was it toilet toilet

  • 52 ilovetoon8788 // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:45 PM

    mclaren is a mediocre manager and time will proof it.

  • 53 barkel // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:46 PM

    hold everything lads, just got an email from Lee

  • 54 ilovetoon8788 // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:51 PM

    we’ll park the bus at chelsea and mancity. probably get a draw in 1 game and will lose by a single goal against 1 of them after defending for our lives for 89mins.

    then mclaren will come out and say ”we are starting to turn the corner and attitude has been impressive and must build on this.”

    parking the bus and scrapping result against city and chelsea will mean F-all because it’s in open games like against Norwich where our defensive liabilities will be exposed big time.

  • 55 Blofal // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:53 PM

    Good article on how most teams in the EPL are playing a 4-2-3-1

    http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/possession-nine-tenths-bore-how-4-2-3-1-sucking-fun-out-premier-league?#:IVWQqmcGNbu8OA

  • 56 Tsunki // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:55 PM

    OK I’m just going to browse through today’s Leemail. 🙂

  • 57 Tsunki // Sep 25, 2015 at 12:57 PM

    We shall fight them on the beaches, meanwhile try not to boo the lads off every game it upsets them. That’s about the gist I think.

  • 58 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:00 PM

    New manager, new backroom staff, £50m spent, four so called “exceptional” new players bought, the majority on the blog in high anticipation whilst Old Blackley was still pointing out the horse had not arrived.

    The manager has gone from licking his lips with excitement to grinning inanely. And old Cassandra Blackley has gone from searching his shed for bolts for the cart to slapping himself at the idea that De Jong and Aarons are our saviours if only Makro could see it.

  • 59 ilovetoon8788 // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:01 PM

    sick at reading Lee’s email. really rotten to the core. the players like sisokko thauvin COLO, could give F-all and we are suppose to continously get behind them, while they big up moves for themselves elsewhere.

    good joke.

  • 60 Blofal // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:02 PM

    If we park the bus against Chelsea we will lose. We can’t defend and they have the talent to pick us apart. I would try and attack them. Change it up a bit.

    ———————Krul
    Janmaat – Mbemba – Coloccini – Haidara
    ——————-Sissoko
    Wijnaldum————————-Aarons
    ——————-De Jong
    ————-Mitrovic—Perez

    Bench: Elliot, Colback, Anita, Cisse, Thauvin, Lacaselles, Obertan

  • 61 ilovetoon8788 // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:02 PM

    oh and Lee’s email is obviously from the club PR department working very hard to make it sound like it’s from Lee’s mouth.

    not a chance on earth it was from Lee Charnley himself. he couldn’t be arsed and asked the PR department to do something useful.

  • 62 sweendog // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:03 PM

    This team is far better on paper than where we are at the moment. Wijnaldum is correct, give him a chance in his correct position, this shows he is frustrated he is not showing us what he can do, fair play for doing this.
    Like someone said earlier play to your players strengths not to a set formation, that’s what a good man manager does, lets see if McClaren is that.

  • 63 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:06 PM

    Old Cassandra Blackley went from reminding bloggers of all the deawood still piled high in the cart to comparing Thauvin’s promising debut to that of Damian Duff’s in a pre-season friendly. Still, it’s far too early for some of us to be saying we told you so. But I will say de Kong and Aarons, our new saviours if only Makro and Costco would see it, are not the answer.

  • 64 sweendog // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:07 PM

    Blofal .. looks good, although no Colback, I’d maybe have Colback instead at DM
    ———————Krul
    Janmaat – Mbemba – Coloccini – Haidara
    ——————-Colback
    Squidward————————-Aarons
    ——————-Wijnaldum
    ————-Mitrovic—Perez

  • 65 sweendog // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:08 PM

    Although Sissoko instead of Squidward may be ok as Sissoko is usually good against Chelsea, just Sissoko has been very poor all season.

  • 66 sweendog // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:10 PM

    Only thing I would suggest is Perez would need to drop to cover Aarons when Chelsea have the ball.

  • 67 Reyantoon // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:11 PM

    I do too haven’t understand what PR means 🙂
    If McLaren can’t turn it around by end of October,he has to admit the job is too much for him and resign, because it’s highly unlikely he’ll get sacked anytime soon.
    He hasn’t managed other PL club since boro,so he might not realized that so much things have changed since then.He said he has been in such kind of pressure so many times and thinks he can handle and turn it arnd but he failed to do so in so many occasions.Hope he gets luck this time but his record tells negative,which makes me feel pessimistic.Therefore,Ed is right in that Charn should prepare the plan B coach behind the scene incase we sunk in to more trouble!!

  • 68 Tsunki // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:14 PM

    it’s exciting. You don’t know if youre going to get a Leemail, a Stemail or a Fabmail.

  • 69 Tsunki // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:15 PM

    Propaganda Revision.

  • 70 John Tudor // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:16 PM

    resign the board

  • 71 Tsunki // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:21 PM

    Nobody seems to be able to answer what do we do after sacking Carr. Who do we get? And will work under the same policy Carr has? And if we get the new guy and things continue as usual, who do we sack next?

  • 72 toon kk // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:21 PM

    Start paying the players on a win only basis, if they only were payed for each game we won we’d see a vast improvement imeadently.

  • 73 Blofal // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:30 PM

    Tsunki it’s not so much about Carr being the scout… its about him at 71yrs old assuming the role of Director of Football.

    Carr’s opinion on player recruitment appears to overrule that of the manager and that should not be the case.

  • 74 Tinman // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:32 PM

    Charnley speaks… http://forevernewcastle.com/charnley-reassures-fans-after-awful-start/

  • 75 mindshaft // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:33 PM

    The teams a mess, Krul doesn’t trust his defence, the defence dont trust Krul or midfield, midfield don’t see anyone ahead making runs so pass sideways, the forwards don’t trust midfield to make a pass so hang back
    Nobody trusts McClaren !!!

  • 76 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:33 PM

    A handful of games into the season and Ed wants the knacker who gave us plan A and plan B to get to work on plan C.

    Where are all those fans who, about a month ago, were in good cheer after our result at Man Utd? It’s now all about crap players, crap staff, crap ownership, and plan C. Your optimism and bullishness has dried up in a flash.

    I’d love to see you lot in a casino, swaggering in with your fat wallets, and then slowly and surreptitiously drifting away from the tables as you lose a few bob. Surely plan A has a long way to run if you ever believed in it. Stick with the new signings and don’t let them slink off into the shadows. Wait and see if your prediction was right instead of turning for port at the first sign of choppy waters. Come back you scoundrels.

  • 77 Tinman // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:33 PM

    First Haye, now Klitschko.. Is the boxing world running scared of Tyson Fury?

  • 78 Rotonda heights // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:35 PM

    Tinman

    You can just see Bishiop telling him to do that. Charmless would never have the gumption to do it off his own bat.

  • 79 Rotonda heights // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:35 PM

    bishop even

  • 80 Mister Tuff // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:35 PM

    Collective failure is always a good card to play when you, yourself are responsible for poor judgement and poor appointments.
    Why accept blame yourself when you can spread it out and deflect some of the blame to others.
    This is how I read Penfolds email.

  • 81 toon kk // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:37 PM

    Tsunki
    I think anyone with any modern day football knowledge could fill Carrs boots easily.
    Mind its amazing how many people supporting Newcastle have slowly but surely had there expectations on who would be a good signing reduced, also people often say sign him up, just because its another face through the door, regardless of their quality.
    Mash has definitely lowered ambition for everyone.

  • 82 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:38 PM

    Tsunki
    How do the long time successful football clubs set up their scouting and recruitment systems? And while we’re on, as weve been asking for some time, where is the news on the millions to be invested in the training facilities?

  • 83 Rotonda heights // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:38 PM

    ilovetoon

    it may even prove it

  • 84 Tinman // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:39 PM

    Rotonda,

    Anyone could have written it! Emails are useless.

  • 85 jimmysmith // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:46 PM

    A case of hope and realizatdion. It’s a common theme in life. The side has some quality, but its in the throes of transition, of reinventing itself, a rebirth, if the club is to be believed, and if they are serious about taking it up a notch, and they continue with a policy of bringing in largely young and foreign players, about a dozen players will have to be replaced in the next 18 months, and that can’t be achieved without significant growing pains. We just didn’t see it.

  • 86 c-dog // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:46 PM

    Krul
    Bembs, Colo, Scelley
    Janners, Siss
    Cols, Vurn,
    Ayoze, SDJ
    Mitro

    f**k it

  • 87 The overrated Frenchman // Sep 25, 2015 at 1:57 PM

    Does the side really have quality? Isn’t that best judged by performance? This squad has been woeful under three (admittedly very poor) managers. Surely though, the time has come to admit that this team is one of pretenders, and fundamentally lacks quality, reflected in the results and generally feeble performances over a long period.

  • 88 John Tudor // Sep 25, 2015 at 2:03 PM

    you only get what you pay for
    hence from me not a penny more

  • 89 loonie-toon // Sep 25, 2015 at 2:09 PM

    ———————Krul
    Janmaat – Mbemba – Coloccini – Haidara
    ——————-Sissoko
    Obertan————————-Aarons
    ——————-wijnaldum
    ————-Mitrovic—Perez

    Bench: Elliot, Colback, Anita, Toney, Thauvin, Lacaselles,de Jong I would try this obertan looked pritty lively wen he was playin so would start him and arrons on flanks for pace. And sossoko in Dmf roll he plays well there

  • 90 John Tudor // Sep 25, 2015 at 2:11 PM

    sissoko cant hold a candle

  • 91 John Tudor // Sep 25, 2015 at 2:11 PM

    play lacaselles in cb and collo in front

  • 92 John Tudor // Sep 25, 2015 at 2:14 PM

    and strip collo of team captaincy

  • 93 toon kk // Sep 25, 2015 at 2:14 PM

    The overrated frenchman
    I’ve always said we’ve got a poor squad, for a long time, many disagree, although I think a lot are seeing this is the case.
    Many were optimistic before the season kicked off, with many saying top eight, top six and a few even thought top four was possible.
    Our squad just escaped relegation and on the basis of four kids with very little experience, and no premier league experience would transform a very poor side.
    I don’t think so.

  • 94 toon kk // Sep 25, 2015 at 2:19 PM

    Loonie
    I agree with your team. I would like to see that too.

  • 95 hibbit // Sep 25, 2015 at 2:36 PM

    loonie i would play perez were you have oberton and toney were you had perez toney looked a handful when he came on lets go for it

  • 96 cyprus // Sep 25, 2015 at 2:41 PM

    Love news readers… Just now, breaking news:

    “Brendan Rodgers is not scared of the near future. He’ll use that fear for motivation.”

  • 97 cyprus // Sep 25, 2015 at 2:43 PM

    JT,
    A detail. Sissoko won us THIS game a couple visits ago…

    He must play. And play well too, if we are to win again.

  • 98 loonie-toon // Sep 25, 2015 at 2:46 PM

    I ant seen Toney play yet that’s y he’s on my bench as you can see no cisse I would bring him on and drop Perez on right mid sub obertan and bring on Toney in second half e got to b givin a chance wen we’re lacking threat up front

  • 99 cyprus // Sep 25, 2015 at 2:49 PM

    Loonie,
    Did you say Obertan there? Excuse the pun, mate, that’s crazy. He can’t deal with League 1…

  • 100 loonie-toon // Sep 25, 2015 at 2:50 PM

    Who would you put as the captin onli person I see in the team is krul to sort defence and want wini captin at his last team you fink he would b more vocal on and off the field

  • 101 Jib // Sep 25, 2015 at 2:50 PM

    toon kk
    I think us optimists based it on a bit more than the 4 kids as you call them.
    There was a new coaching team who were making all the right noises a new openness from the club and the first few games (Swansea excepted ) seemed to show the right attitude.
    I, for one am not wearing a hair shirt quite yet , in a post yesterday I mused that this could strengthen SM’s hand on the board vis a vis transfer targets and Luke Edwards article would seem to bear that out.
    It always was a scenario of 3 windows minimum.

  • 102 hibbit // Sep 25, 2015 at 2:51 PM

    loonie the heads will be down by then put him on from the start if he runs out of steam take him off and put oberton on then he was full of running when came on in the cup

  • 103 hibbit // Sep 25, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    jib which games have the team showed the right attitude in ??

  • 104 Jib // Sep 25, 2015 at 3:06 PM

    Hibbit
    Soton Man U Arsenal

  • 105 loonie-toon // Sep 25, 2015 at 3:08 PM

    Ye obertan far from best player we have but he runs is socks off when I have seen him play I would defo drop cisse from the squad he looks like he ant wanted to b here for long time. The best we seen of him wen he was up front with ba we have got to change formation that is a must I reckon on stead buyin Thauvin we should of got in Townsend

  • 106 hibbit // Sep 25, 2015 at 3:15 PM

    jib thats 2 games out of 8 could hardly call that good 2 draws and a cup win 2 points from 18 nothing to cheer there

  • 107 hibbit // Sep 25, 2015 at 3:17 PM

    loonie thats it he run like a headless chicken could have been a world class sprinter but a footballer never

  • 108 toon kk // Sep 25, 2015 at 3:23 PM

    Jib
    The who squad lacks quality in every area, from defence, creating players, passing ability, pace and even goal scorers. We’re crying out for proven quality with pace. The young lads that came in would have worked perfect mixed with quality not to depend on. As for new manager and staff they can’t turn years of poor signings into stars it will Never happen.

  • 109 beefman13 // Sep 25, 2015 at 3:26 PM

    ——Krul
    Janmaat – Mbemba – Coloccini – Dummett
    ——————-Sissoko
    Wijnaldum————————-Aarons
    ——————-De Jong
    ————-Mitrovic—Perez
    love this team on paper, cant do nowt about curly top but if they get the electric shock treatment b4 kick off, we may cause a few probs, i watched Wijnaldum many times out wide a few years ago and he was fantastic.

    I think Colback needs time out and Anita for sure, Thauvin needs a reality check, not sure if he has got owt between his lugs.

  • 110 hibbit // Sep 25, 2015 at 3:29 PM

    beefman…. thauvin is another one who thinks he is way better then he is

  • 111 loonie-toon // Sep 25, 2015 at 3:39 PM

    Are u21 teams seems to b doin better then are 1st team instead of buyin young crap we should b bringing them threw home grown lads that love r club and town as much as the fans do

  • 112 AncientC // Sep 25, 2015 at 3:39 PM

    ——————Krul
    Anita – Mbemba – Coloccini – Colback
    ——————-Sissoko
    Janmaat————————Aarons
    —————Wijnaldum
    ————-Mitrovic—Perez

    Janmaat further forward as he seems to be our only route to goal at the moment… Colback at LB as Haidara looks error prone and likely to get caught out of position.

  • 113 JackButler // Sep 25, 2015 at 3:39 PM

    So lee Charnley has released an email where he denies there’s a crisis at the club and calls for calm.

    Sounds like a man knowing his arse is on the line

  • 114 loonie-toon // Sep 25, 2015 at 3:43 PM

    Anyone got the skysports app on there fone should look what lee been sayi. Lol it’s him we want rid of not smc

  • 115 JackButler // Sep 25, 2015 at 3:43 PM

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/lee-charnley-emails-newcastle-united-10133766

  • 116 JackButler // Sep 25, 2015 at 3:50 PM

    Gotta love the way they shyte on us from up on high and then ask us to play our part but standing behind the team in their time of need.

    Take, take, take, take

  • 117 beefman13 // Sep 25, 2015 at 3:50 PM

    hibbit, Thauvin is like a prancing pony, the Marseilles fans hated the kid, hes obviously got talent but why do players like him have to be continually mollycoddled in to getting a performance, and he can stick that daft bow tie were the sun dosnt shine. pompous get.




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