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Newcastle May Have Top Teenager In Their Ranks

4:46 pm, Thursday, October 1st, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 125 Comments

There´s some very interesting news over the last 24 hours that Newcastle are about to fast track Gideon Adu-Peprah to the first team after the 17 year-old left back was signed in the summer from Manchester City.

The 17-year-old left-back signed for the Magpies on a free transfer and has played two games for the Newcastle U-21 side since he arrived.

Gideon Adu-Peprah 99

17 year-old Gideon Adu-Peprah looking good at Newcastle

One of Newcastle weaknesses in defense is both at center back and left back and Newcastle may look to bring in a top left back in January with Haidara and Dummett vying for the left-back position but both picking up a number of injuries in their careers.

They are currently both out injured and of course Kevin Mbabu played an excellent game on his Premier League debut at left back for us against Chelsea last Saturday – so Kevin has a big chance to stay in the team if he can continue to play so well.

The Ghana-born Adu-Peprah signed on for two years at Newcastle and can play at both left back and center back.

The teenager is making rapid progress moving up from the U-18 squad to the U-21 squad in a short time frame.

Gideon picked up a slight injury after only 20 minutes while playing for the U-21 side against Swansea last Monday at Whitley Park, but the injury is not thought to be a serious one.

Steve McClaren was at that game so it´s a pity he didn´t get to have a longer look at the teenager who is getting good press for his performances so far this season.

We may have a young star on our hands here.

Hope so.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Coaching · Gideon Adu-Peprah · Newcastle News · Newcastle Youth




125 responses so far ↓

  • 1 JackButler // Oct 1, 2015 at 4:50 PM

    It’s always good to hear about young player doing well, but right now we are desperate for leaders in the first team. We need a captain, someone to lead the players, to set the example, someone with a voice both on and off the pitch as right now we have a mute chancer wearing the armband

  • 2 will die for the toon army // Oct 1, 2015 at 4:53 PM

    Our Future Captain is either Krul or Colback. KRUL for me.

  • 3 Lindisfarne // Oct 1, 2015 at 4:56 PM

    Gotta be Krul to be kind!!!

  • 4 JackButler // Oct 1, 2015 at 4:59 PM

    I don’t see Coldback even being a regular in the starting 11 in time, he works hard but offers little else

  • 5 Tinman // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:00 PM

    Hold on, he was just promoted to the U21’s so now he is being fast tracked to the first team?
    The step up from U21 to First Team is far greater than U18 to U21.

    I thought this was going to be about Mbabu

  • 6 Tinman // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:03 PM

    I’ve tried to pin down some of the reasons why Newcastle will never win a trophy in my most recent blog post. I can’t help but think our mentality is completely wrong. We are trying to copycat the big boys instead of sticking to what we know.
    http://forevernewcastle.com/why-newcastle-will-never-win-a-trophy/

  • 7 barkel // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:03 PM

    Krul needs to concentrate on learning how to kick a ball, excellent shot stopper but poor distribution! Captain for me any of Janmatt, Gini or Mitro. I was very impressed with how Mitro got the crowd going against Chelsea, showed a lot of the passion that everyone was crying out for.

  • 8 Lindisfarne // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:05 PM

    I hope Schteve reads this:

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/oct/01/robert-lewandowski-bayern-munich-pep-guardiola-lionel-messi

  • 9 Ibizatoon // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:06 PM

    Tinman…We have two choices as I see it.

    The first, we view this as proof of the excellence of our youth academy.

    The second, that the jump from U-21’s (perhaps even U-18’s) isn’t that far from the level of our current 1st team.

    Then again, maybe he’s just really good and never belonged in the U18’s in the first place. Perez was bought for the development squad, but showed he was aleady above that level in no time. Has anybody seen this lad play?

  • 10 Tinman // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:08 PM

    @barkel,

    How is it that a professional footballer who trains 5 days a week for the last 10-20 years still kicks a ball like a 13 year old. It’s embarrassing. A skill which can be so easily improved yet is neglected by him

  • 11 Ibizatoon // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:10 PM

    Barkel…For me, Janmaat is the shout for now. Gini, perhaps even De Jong are future options for me.

    As for Mitrovich, yes he rallies the crowd up, but he has shown that he’s not quite responsible enough in himself to be the team captain.

  • 12 Tinman // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:10 PM

    @Ibiza,

    I have not seen him. I would guess few have with only two U18 matches, will be a wait and see. Could be decent if City brought him in. But then they did cast him off. Maybe it is because he is injury prone, in that case he would fit right in.

    We’ll know more about him next season I guess. But LB is a position that needs improving.

  • 13 JackButler // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:11 PM

    Ibiza

    Agree mate, I don’t think the gap between our youth level and first team is that big simply because of the standard of some of the first team players. When you look at the standard of some of our defenders the likes of Kevin Mbabu comes in and makes a massive impact on his debut and with no natural cover for Jaanmat and with Willo and Colo being the standard bearers for the central position thee are plenty of opurtinities for the youngsters to step up sooner than expected

  • 14 Tinman // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:13 PM

    @Lindisfarne,

    Fantastic article. I hope Steve reads that too mate!

  • 15 Ibizatoon // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:16 PM

    Tinman…Given the quality within the Man City setup, it’s not that straight forward to know why they haven’t made it. It could simply be he was looking for a club where he’d have a greater chance of cracking the first team.

    Seems he made a good call joining the top of the injury league team 😉

    JB…Purple policy, still in full flow 🙂

  • 16 Tinman // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:16 PM

    Mitrovic should never be captain. Not for a while at least. He is still too young and immature for that. Besides he doesn’t need the armband to jee up the other players and fans, he does it anyway

  • 17 Mag52 // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:16 PM

    Jack Butler.

    Hey so Colback works hard – that’s something you can’t in all honesty say about a lot of our present team.
    His game will improve, and I can see him as a future captain.

  • 18 barkel // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:18 PM

    I know, it’s very annoying. Although I do think he is starting to improve, perhaps because he has been playing the ball a lot shorter recently though.

  • 19 Tinman // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:19 PM

    @Ibiza,

    Coming from City is one positive for the lad. Hopefully he can come through the ranks and this injury is just a niggle!

  • 20 JackButler // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:20 PM

    Mag52

    At this level though you need more than hard work, right now he’s needed but if we continue to spend he will soon find himself involved less and less. Look at Jonas when he was here, ran himself into the ground for the side but offered very little else and with the likes of Winni in the side he’s far better placed to take the armband in the coming seasons

  • 21 lesh // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:23 PM

    Mmmm

    So, Robin Knoche could be a target wh?

    Knoche Knoche,

    Wo’st dort?

  • 22 lesh // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:26 PM

    Try again

    Knoche Knoche.

    Wo’st sort?

    Vielleicht es ist es ein großes Pferd?

    Vielleicht es ist es ein großes Pferd wer?

    Vielleicht es ist es ein großes Pferd ich bin ein Londoner.

    Ho, ho, ho ho (in German that is)

    😐

  • 23 will die for the toon army // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:27 PM

    I wld really like Wijanldum to be our Captain . He has won a trophy before and he has hunger for
    more and a very talented player to rely on . he is the best shout .

  • 24 lesh // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:28 PM

    Whoops, * sort – dort.

    There’s no way I can copy and paste as good as Jib, der Google Meister!

    😉

  • 25 Mag52 // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:28 PM

    Jack Butler.

    Problem is though Jack, how long are we going to be able to hold on to a player as good as Winni ? Unless of course MA has really turned over a new leaf.

  • 26 lesh // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:30 PM

    An ex Citeh lad eh?

    Could he say he’s been rejected by better clubs than us!

  • 27 JackButler // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:30 PM

    Mag52

    Who knows mate, Ashley could fund a push for Champions league or sell every single player no one knows what the hell his gonna do

  • 28 will die for the toon army // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:35 PM

    No one knows wat Ashely is going ti do? So we jst hope. Wat do we have to hold on to players? You see even Manure sell their best!!!!!

    We jst have to have a Plan B for selling and buying players.

  • 29 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:38 PM

    This is the lad who is snapping up some of the youngsters for the club..

    I’v never heard of the bloke in all honesty!

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/meet-steve-nickson-newcastle-united-10173026

  • 30 brklyngeordie // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:38 PM

    Must be said again with how atrocious the football at the club has been over the years that the only thing that would make me a bit happier is giving a bigger chance to the youth would rather find out about an unknown then watch some unmotivated has-been pull on the black & white

  • 31 JackButler // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:38 PM

    Will die

    We’ve always had a plan B, it’s called panic buying in January. 😉

  • 32 will die for the toon army // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:46 PM

    We have a younger and growing squad for the future. It has very good players from Wijnaldum, Mitro, Aarons, Thauvin, Mbemba, Perez, Arma, Mbabu, Toney???

    That is wat we have at the moment and that is the future of football. All we have to know those players will b come for once they become better.
    I
    Chelsea and Man City have aging players.

  • 33 JackButler // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:49 PM

    Will die

    Chelsea currently have around THIRTY players out on loan, they are simply buying everyone up and loaning them back out, money’s doe st only buy you success but it also buys you future success. It will always be an uphill struggle for the vast majority of clubs because of this

  • 34 Lindisfarne // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:49 PM

    Tinman

    I hope in a couple of seasons we will be challenging in the Cups and in the top half of the table. I don’t know how much longer Carr will be around, but long term maybe Schteve will become Dof and Cathro (or other) become HC.

  • 35 JackButler // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:53 PM

    Correction.

    Chelsea have THIRTY TWO players out on loan, how is this allowed in the modern game!!!

    http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/the-definitive-list-of-all-32-chelsea-players-out-on-loan-a2925211.html

  • 36 will die for the toon army // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    I think Cathro is short term he will leave soon. Only if we give him a pay rise. Mcca once he is success we will have him for long term like 15 yrs.

  • 37 John Tudor // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:55 PM

    money talks thats how

  • 38 Lindisfarne // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:55 PM

    JackButler

    The number of players Chelsea own also stops the other top teams from potentially unearthing a diamond. I would not like to have the experience of another Obertan but NUFC can offer, with more likelihood, a younger player will get game time and so be a more attractive proposition than sitting in Chelsea Reserves and not (as yet!) a League contender.

  • 39 WWSBRD // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:56 PM

    JB
    tbf Chelsea buys loads of players to loan them out as a side business which allows them to fund themselves…nothing illegal in it

    If Ashley did it I’d be fine with it

  • 40 Lindisfarne // Oct 1, 2015 at 5:57 PM

    will die for the toon army

    Admittedly I get the feeling Cathro is only here short term and that we are a stop gap, for some unspecified reason.

  • 41 lew // Oct 1, 2015 at 6:01 PM

    Thauvin linked to Barcelona in January??

  • 42 lew // Oct 1, 2015 at 6:02 PM

    http://www.footballdaily.co.uk/post/grant-elliott/barcelona-to-bid-for-premier-league-star

  • 43 JackButler // Oct 1, 2015 at 6:02 PM

    WWSBRD

    Not saying it’s illegal mate, but UEFA are said to be looking into how many players a club can loan out, as basically the richest clubs are buying up all the top kids with their wealth given them an unfair advantage. Also a lot of the time there are disputes over the fees paid.

  • 44 Tsunki // Oct 1, 2015 at 6:09 PM

    Thauvin going to Barcelona? Is he allowed a weekend off so soon? I thought he wasn’t due any holidays yet.

  • 45 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 1, 2015 at 6:20 PM

    JB…I think they should look into this kids trafficking which buying young ones down to 14-16 basically are!

    …treading them like trading objects makes it no better!

  • 46 toonking // Oct 1, 2015 at 6:22 PM

    players who might turn decent in the future is no good because we might have already seen them getting sold when we’re relegated, what we need is players who’ll have the on field performance right now.

    thauvin to barcalona like all else really a stupid media report, we were at one stage odds on for charlie austin where’s he QPR. Being linked to barcalona might make him sound like a decent player but he’s still not decent enough to play and perform consistantly at this minute in time and that is unformunately what we need.

  • 47 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 1, 2015 at 6:26 PM

    *treating

  • 48 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2015 at 6:45 PM

    Anyone listening to Talk Sport on BBC Newcastle?

    Had an interesting point from a fan messaging the show.

    He suggested that Newcastle should address the difficulty in bringing players to the region by having the training complex around London. The players can then live the London lifestyle with their families/partners and the players can fly up to Newcastle once every couple of weeks for games.

    Let’s face it, players don’t really go out in the city and interact with fans too much, do a lot less charitable work in the area too (although still do some).

    What are people’s thoughts?

  • 49 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2015 at 6:47 PM

    I favour looking past the Man City game. Mainly because it will probably be another loss. Can we beat Norwich? Norwich is 12th with 9 points. We surely have to be competitive with them if we’re to avoid relegation? They’ve scored 11 and allowed 12 and have a win and 2 draws most recently. Score for the match? I see a 2-2 draw.

  • 50 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2015 at 6:48 PM

    Jesper

    Very true, clubs are so obsessed with finding the next big thing they don’t think of the impact on these young lads.

    Although on the other hand they do pay them, give them fantastic training, loan opportunities and plenty of other perks.

    It’s a difficult one to call really.

  • 51 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2015 at 6:51 PM

    I wouldn’t get into moving the training ground to London Transfer mate. Let players fly down to London on their time off if they want to. They have plenty of dosh. What other non-London club would consider having their training ground in London? It’s a slippery slope. Might as well move the club there eventually.

  • 52 will die for the toon army // Oct 1, 2015 at 6:51 PM

    Transfer Sage

    That guy is a donkey jst. If u don’t want to stay North dont come.

  • 53 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2015 at 6:52 PM

    The club will attract good young players if they play winning football. That means getting rid of Ashley of course…

  • 54 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2015 at 6:53 PM

    Ashley’s had his chance. More than. He is a complete football failure. Time to leave Mike.

  • 55 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2015 at 6:57 PM

    will die for toon army

    It’s just a point for debate, it could be something to consider though. Many jobs allow people to work from home or work remotely away from the central office.

    Consider St. James’ Park our office and then let the players do their day to day work in the capital. It wouldn’t have a negative impact on the area.

    Apparently many clubs do this in Scotland. It’s also common in America with many of the sports over there.

    Let’s face it, the players are not local lads anymore, they don’t have an affiliation with the area, they are only here for a few years of their career.

    Look how clubs like palace have overtaken a lot of northern sides as many players are willing to play for a less established team but with the lifestyle they want.

    I know fine well if I played abroad I’d want to be in the best spots, Paris, Rome, Madrid, Barcelona, Munich, Marseille….I wouldn’t want to go to an area where my family/wife wouldn’t have as much to do.

  • 56 will die for the toon army // Oct 1, 2015 at 6:59 PM

    Jesper

    I dont think the young lads get stability. Stability is a very good thing it sets up ur mind. Imagine Arma seeing that we buy new established strikers amd we keep moving him around. He will never get good. He will always b a loan player.

    They r jst getting money out of the kids wen was the last time Chelski developed a player. If Coutios wasnt that good he wld still b moving around.

  • 57 beermonkey // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:00 PM

    sage

    wouldn’t it just be easier to have a company jet and fly them for training

    although I thing the team could become split
    overall I not keen on it

    but if the club want the players something could be done I am sure

  • 58 will die for the toon army // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:06 PM

    There r many things that come with football. I know but that’s how Cities become attractive. We have to stick to our City. Make a beautiful stadium and training ground.

    MA left things for Lee. He runs sh@t now so we have ti blame Lee.

  • 59 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:08 PM

    Beer

    I’m not saying it’s good or bad, without the research done on player’s views it’s not going to matter what we say.

    I think the argument for moving the training there is that:

    1. the players can have their family home in London

    2. they then only need to fly to the region once every two weeks for the games, instead of flying in multiple times for training

    3. we would be considerably closer to a lot of away grounds.

    I’d personally not have a problem if we moved our training facility down south, I know some don’t like the idea but the world is changing, it’s very multicultural and diverse now, people work all over with the traditional attachment growing up in one area has.

  • 60 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:09 PM

    will die

    Can still have a beautiful stadium where the games are played. By basing our training elsewhere (which nobody sees anyway) we might be able to attract better players to play in our city.

    I understand your point though. I just don’t think where the players live and train will have a massive impact on the area.

  • 61 beermonkey // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:15 PM

    sage

    there are pluses and negatives to both sides

    but were supposed to be developing local talent if we managed to bring 3 4 through over the next few years would this not alienate them

  • 62 toonking // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:15 PM

    TS

    I’d say that’s quite a good idea myself. The north east never has been and never will be viewed as a great city for footballers, most of it’s land is made up of coutryside and historic building and industrial side. We do have one of the largest shopping centre in europe but even that is packed with a vast amount of your every day shops rather than those epensive ones you’ll get down south.

  • 63 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:15 PM

    What about Sunderland away? Can we beat them? I certainly hope so if we plan to stay in the Prem. The season would slide into disaster if we lost to Norwich and Sunderland.

  • 64 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:17 PM

    Didn’t Michael Owen live away and fly in Transfer mate? Is that the model we want to adopt for the club? Every city in England has the London problem. I just don’t thing the answer is to move training there. Just a thought. As you say more research would provide a better answer.

  • 65 toonking // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:19 PM

    by footballers i do mean foreigners mainly,

  • 66 will die for the toon army // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:20 PM

    I think it does wat abt the Homegrown players and the academy kids. That wld work for foreigners. U can feel welcome in another City wen u play for another. We forget things like taxes for the training ground wont go to our city. Then bumping into our players or may be sharing a meal in the same restaurant.

  • 67 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:21 PM

    toonking

    Exactly, I fully understand the pull of London. They have the top designer stores, they have more music, more theatre, other sporting events, more clubs in the area therefore more colleague and potential friends from previous clubs, more socialising for wives and girl friends.

    I love the north east, I love the country side, the beautiful scenery, the history, the people, the culture, the food….everything about this region I love. I can see though why young men coming from abroad, earning vast sums of money don’t….it doesn’t fit with the lifestyle others will have.

    Beer

    Very true, something American teams who do the same don’t need to consider, they rely on college/high school teams for the development.

    Not sure of the solution, other than having a norther base or youth football and a southern base for senior players.

  • 68 Essex Geordie Bill // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:23 PM

    I’m not a youngster anymore, but having mis-spent my early social years in Newcastle I am wondering what there is in London that can’t be found in our fair city.

    Or am I showing a touch of naivety?

  • 69 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:23 PM

    will die

    A lot of players don’t get out in the city much anyway, not like 15/20 years ago.

    And taxes will go to central government anyway, not the local area.

    Yes there will be some money lost in the local economy but it definitely won’t be a significant amount.

  • 70 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:27 PM

    G2

    I honestly wouldn’t mind it if it helped the club. Players are very distant from us already, I cant imagine it would be much different. People already criticise he current lot for having no passion for the club/city so what difference would it make.

    As I say, it happens in many other jobs, people accept that and have structured a lot of businesses within close proximity to London, just a thought.

    Essex Bill

    I agree, for me this area has everything I want. However if you earn 50k a week and have a super model girlfriend there’s a good chance she will want to live in London, the countries fashion capital.

    It also has brillaint theatre, more high brow (but not better in my opinion) restaurants, more entertainment, more sport, etc.

  • 71 beermonkey // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:31 PM

    sage

    it wouldn’t hurt to have our own training at a more central location
    we could do something with a lower league club build our own hotel for the players to stay

    as long as all the staff and players are together it doesn’t matter where they train

    Manchester doesn’t have any trouble luring players

  • 72 will die for the toon army // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:33 PM

    Transfer

    How will the players know tge fans r angry? When do u lose and fly back to land be around and face us at the mall and restaurants?

  • 73 Lindisfarne // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:35 PM

    The nearest a new training facility will get to London is Shirebrook, Nottinghamshire. Just the other side of the road from the SD distribution centre, with zero hour contracts for all support staff on a week on / week off basis.

  • 74 toonking // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:35 PM

    G2

    I think it’s the distance more than anything, I think newcastle itself is second when it comes to distance between it and longdon carlisle 1st.

    Whilst central entland might have some bits of trouble at allowing players interest outside football i think they’ve got a lot more cities in as much of an area as what most the north east seems to have before getting towards york.

  • 75 Jib // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:38 PM

    Knoche Knoche
    Wer ist da ?
    Vielleicht
    Vielleicht ist wer?
    Vielleicht ist es, weil ich ein Londoner

  • 76 will die for the toon army // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:39 PM

    The first 8 yrs we had no Plan jst a club full of mercenaries. Looking for a quick pay cheque and a stepping stone. Start winning trophies and all will change.

  • 77 Blackley and Brownlie // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:43 PM

    I’ve seen this lad play for the under 18s. Showed some promise in terms of speed and strength but not a stand out player. I couldn’t see him getting near the first team any time soon.

  • 78 will die for the toon army // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:46 PM

    Black

    Kid is 17yrs.

  • 79 Jib // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:50 PM

    Knoche Knoche
    Wer ist da
    Zerren
    Zerren, die
    Zerren meinen Schwanz

  • 80 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:57 PM

    Will die

    The players don’t face the fans at the malls and restaurants though. Even now.

    Beer

    Manchester doesn’t as they are two I a which pay huge money, and Man Utd particularly have the prestige of one of the worlds greatest clubs.

    I’m not saying it’s right to move south though, just I can understand the argument and I wondered if it would ever be considered by clubs up north.

  • 81 angelswithdirtyfaces // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:58 PM

    If we re-located training near London we have given up before we start. It’s saying Newcastle is a dump – so we’ll bus you in and out again for home games only. This is a very bad message to give.
    Players are hardly going to identify with the Geordie nation if we tell them it’s got not much going for it. The quality of life is actually lower in the SE than almost anywhere else in the UK.

  • 82 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:58 PM

    Blackley

    Ever find it odd how few newcastle and sunderland youngsters get a chance in the first team?

  • 83 toonking // Oct 1, 2015 at 7:58 PM

    esex bill
    look at it like this I myself live in county durham but almost every town i visit is like a ghost town with nothing but the asdas, argos and sports direct. When want to play in a casino i’m having to go into newcastle and for fun like bowling or cinema i’m getting two buses for metrocentre.

    I’ll always enjy sites like durham cathedral, northumbria, tyne bridge, high force, farn islands and bambera castle………. myself but when your a visitor as footballers will be these are just another tourish attraction that will only have it’s interest on 1 or 2 visits.

  • 84 clinath@ed // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:01 PM

    Your assuming every player would want to live in London. There would be some UK players who would object to it surely. Then you’d be back to square one.

  • 85 toonking // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:02 PM

    They want shopping centres and various entertainments when not training or playing, not the same tourish and camera site.

  • 86 Jail for Ashley // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:03 PM

    Transfer,
    Very interesting point but can’t comment as I’m in the passenger seat of a fast moving van on the A47 !

  • 87 cyprus // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:04 PM

    Agree with a previous poster. SDJ time to prove yourself mate. Can you get stuck in? Can you perform? You were supposed to be a bargain. Ie. Top top player for ‘ only’ 6 mil. Which isn’t exactly an SD bargain level. Do it now mate. I recognise all the bad luck. So you got till Xmas:)

  • 88 cyprus // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:08 PM

    What’s the conversation. Moving Newcastle to London eh 😉

  • 89 toonking // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:09 PM

    clith
    I guess we can get lots of these great british players and sell all them crap greedy foreign players

  • 90 Ibizatoon // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:11 PM

    Transfer…Firstly, a fine debate to bring to the table. Give yourself a pat on the back. Although, I do hope we don’t get too distracted from the main topic of interest….will Austin finally join NUFC?

    Anyway. I think after all is said and done, unity and identity are two huge components which may get lost somewhat with training being London based, rather than in Newcastle.

    It is interesting though, as you say, it could / should deal with the old age issue of being able to attract certain players to the NE, without it just being a case of paying inflated wages.

    I’m a romantic, so think it should be kept in Newcastle. Might not actually be the smartest outlook though as far as attracting the best players and bringing success.

  • 91 Ibizatoon // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:17 PM

    Toon Prodigy @29…Now, call me cynical, but as I read that, and the Chronicles gushing and then promoting to the fans ” It should be celebrated as a fine hat-trick of sorts from Nickson by Newcastle fans”, it did strike me as preperation for a new club messiah, to replace Carr, who has recently come under fire.

    Heck, I’ll do it myself. Ibiza, that’s so cynical.

    Nice to meet you, Steve Nickson. Keep up the good work.

  • 92 will die for the toon army // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:20 PM

    Lee and The Council shld sit down and See how to work on that?

  • 93 Average_Contents // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:22 PM

    Just found this on newsnow. Never seen it at the time but bearing in mind he’s a spuds fan it’s eerily accurate from an outsider’s view.

    Fcuking bang on actually.

    In April Seb wrote this piece on Newcastle United & Mike Ashley … has anything changed in 2015/16?

    Imagine a world without aspiration.
    The skies are grey and dull, the rain falls in a lazy drizzle and the streets are deserted. Abandoned cars lie rusting by the side of the road, ply sheets line shop windows and the wind rattles through the vacant buildings.
    The trains haven’t stopped here for years.
    This was a thriving town once, a proud place; the industry boomed and the nightlife pulsed. But something happened here, something terrible. Someone reached into this city’s gut and ripped its soul from within.
    Welcome to Newcastle.
    The resistance against modern football has never been stronger than it is now. As the seasons pass, the game moves further away from its public and the realisation grows that, like a thief in the night, modernity has snuck through our bedroom window, stolen something we love, and replaced it with a superficial imitation.
    And nowhere is that more apparent than at St James’ Park.
    Mike Ashley’s ownership of Newcastle United has been well covered and the business model from which he operates is pretty much understood. We know that players are bought to be sold, that ambition never extends beyond lucrative inertia, and that a team is fielded almost out of commercial obligation.
    Mike Ashley

    Whilst the club still maintain the pretence of a future objective and hide, with that odd hubris, behind quasi-impressive financial results, the supporters know the truth and are able to see between the lines and appreciate that, really, the reality could only be more stark if the ownership were drilling for oil in the centre-circle.
    The tragedy isn’t in the detail, though. It isn’t in the recruitment strategy, the Wonga association or even in the Sports Direct hoardings, spreading as they are like aggressive melanoma. No, the true evil is in the principle.
    English football has its rich and its poor. Between the Oligarch-funded aristocracy at the top and the penny-pinchers at the bottom of the professional pyramid, there is an enormous disparity in wealth. Supporters accept that, though, because the affection that the game breeds has a wonderful ability to soften hard truths.
    Your football club is your football club and that’s really all the matters. Whether sat in a hospitality box watching the Champions League, or stood under a leaking roof for an FA Cup qualifier, the life of a fan is almost identical. Some may have it better, and they may get to see more famous players at bigger grounds and in more comfortable surroundings, but the set of accompanying emotions—supporter-to-supporter—are identical.
    Goals are celebrated; referees are hated; poor team selections are lamented.
    It’s all the same, it’s the common quality that binds fans up and down the country and it exists because, irrespective of their circumstances, all clubs share the ambition of moving from a Point A to a Point B. In some cases, that may represent an incidental distance, in others it may be a chasm, but in every instance it’s a forward motion and the achievement of that objective carries the same emotional significance.
    That hope is right at the heart of fan culture. Realism isn’t relevant, because most supporters are hopelessly optimistic and they will believe, until it’s absolutely impossible, that their team will eventually have their day and that a brighter tomorrow is always in reach
    Mike Ashley deserves to be judged within that context. He has sabotaged that dynamic; he has removed the sense of aspiration from a Saturday afternoon and replaced it with a set of self- serving mechanics that inspire nothing in anybody.
    That’s a heinous crime. Football, superficially, is just balls, corner-flags, painted lines and goal posts, but when stripped back solely to those components, and when its wonderful intangibles are replaced with a cynical money-making doctrine, joy can be hard to find.
    When a club reaches that point, it stops filling its traditional role in supporters’ lives and becomes little more than a vehicle for a wealthy individual’s business interests.
    Picking through Newcastle United’s accounts and making depressing conclusions about financial intent is relevant, sighing at their eagerness to sell players to the detriment of their side is rational, and castigating the club for their current John Carver-themed malaise is very fair, but all of those points miss a bigger, darker truth: Ashley has taken the joy out of fandom.
    He is a footballing vandal. He is entitled to run his club as a business and to make prudent decisions to protect his investment, but he has a moral obligation to preserve the very relationship that he is destroying.

    Fans make unreasonable demands all the time: they always want more money to be spent, better players to be bought, and for more games to be won. This isn’t that, though; this isn’t the same. Newcastle United fans aren’t being disenfranchised by their own unrealistic expectations, but by the relentlessly reinforced understanding that their club is wilfully stagnant.
    What a terrible thing to know.
    On the season’s final day, we’ll be treated to stock images of what is supposedly the worst fate to befall any fan. Fully grown men, tear-stained cheeks reddened by the May sunshine, will clap stoically as they look relegation in the face.
    That, apparently, is as low as it gets.
    But imagine having to almost wish for that? In Newcastle’s case, that’s probably not too far from the truth. A temporary exit from the Premier League would deny Mike Ashley the broadcasting revenue that he covets above all else, would limit the commercial revenue and lower marketing platform that have become the club’s focus, and would apply the necessary external pressure to possibly force a sale.
    Simplification though that may be, there’s a hint of realism to it. Ashley is the swollen leech who needs to be burnt away, and relegation is the only flame hot enough for the task.
    The football community and its legislators need to care more about this. Modernity is a creeping force which has taken a lot from the game and which, more often than not, has to be grudgingly tolerated. The current situation at Newcastle should never have occurred, though, because not only has it eroded the bedrock relationship between the supporters and their team, but it has set a precedent which will inevitably be followed elsewhere.
    It has been an act of sporting terrorism.

  • 94 Average_Contents // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:23 PM

    It’s long winded mind but definitely worth the read imho unlike Ibizatoon’s which are just long winded and usually just guff 😉

  • 95 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:24 PM

    Ibiza

    Thank you sir. Thought it was a good point raised in the radio.

    I personally would prefer it to stay in the area but wouldn’t object to it moving if it would benefit the club. After all clubs are no longer representative of the local people. If I want local lads giving it their all I go and watch Spennymoor Town.

    I really don’t know the best way to approach this.

  • 96 Average_Contents // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:26 PM

    Oh, hello ibiza. Didn’t see you there 😀

  • 97 cyprus // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:29 PM

    AC a bit outdated and over the top. Read the last sentence carefully.

  • 98 beermonkey // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:34 PM

    sage

    it is an interesting thought and would it be so bad ??

  • 99 Our Toon // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:37 PM

    TS

    I think it’s an awful idea the chap suggested, I believe location has very little to do with it, probably 5 or 10 percent think about London. Why has the north been more successful than the south or even London for that matter?

    The 2 Manchester clubs, Liverpool even us at one point were attracting the very best players, the problem we have is the lack of ambition both on and off the pitch, players see that and prefer to look at location because of it. If location was so important then Aguero, Silva, Kompany, Coutinho etc wouldn’t be in England full stop. Money talks and we don’t like that!!

  • 100 lesh // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:38 PM

    But if they’re thinking of fast-tracking 17 year old Gideon to first-team LB, where does that put Mbabu? What’s his natural position? Could he provide some CB or DM cover?

    Why I ask? Because Mbabu’s had a taste of the Prem and could be very pi$$ed off if he’s put back with Beardsley’s squad.

  • 101 Ibizatoon // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:38 PM

    AC…Reading it, I thought it was mine 😉

    How you doing? Still as charming as ever I see.

    Interesting piece. We’re not allowed to comment at this stage though, as we’re still waiting to see if Ashley has really changed or not. I’ll assume the sarcasm has been picked up and there is no need for another smiley.

    Transfer…A good point indeed. Without exploring out of the box ideas, we wont progress.

    Perhaps a better alternative would be to put up ‘London’ signs on the streets of Newcastle and lie to new signings? No? Alright, it’s just my first idea!

    Back on to the real discussion, it is true that football has moved on from the traditional understanding of things. Teams often aren’t full of local, born and bred, players. Should it matter where they train? I do think it could be a slippery slope though.

    It’s really not a debate about where the training ground is, but what does your club and what it stand for mean to you? If it’s all about success, winning things and keeping up with the times, then sacrifices of tradition and local pride will likely be sacrficed along the way.

  • 102 Jail for Ashley // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:48 PM

    A_C,
    Good read that !

  • 103 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2015 at 8:56 PM

    Our toon

    Also a very valid point.

    I’d counter that by agreeing money does talk but when you consider a ub who offers the same money then location could matter. It could be why you seem to get a lot of players heading to London/southern clubs though not money is more equal among those outside top 4/5

  • 104 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Oct 1, 2015 at 9:05 PM

    Not every football player covets staying in London the French and African players always do and some English players will fancy it but a lot of players are from countries with families and are generally quite grounded !

    Dutch , Swedish, Norwegian, German , Eastern Europeans all produce players of great pedigree who have different mentalities than other players and would settle in Newcastle this is the markets we should be looking to get players

    Also not every kid that is from the North wants to move to London we should be casting the net wide to try and snare all the young talent from areas such Newcastle, Aberdeen , Glasgow , Manchester , Burnley , Leeds with the promise that if you are good enough you will get game time

    Money means a lot to footballers but money and game time in the premiership can make a good difference we just need the right coaching team with a blend of senior players to make it work

  • 105 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2015 at 9:06 PM

    To me relegation is more than acceptable if it gets rid of the lying parasite at the top.

  • 106 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2015 at 9:10 PM

    Terrible news from Oregon. Another massacre in a college in a small town. Sad but not likely to change anytime soon. Congress is owned by powerful interest groups like the National Rifle Association.

  • 107 toonking // Oct 1, 2015 at 9:10 PM

    Those who are all based outside newcastle and that includes those who are just across the road in gateshead, here is a question.

    If the difference in high quality shops and shopping centres weren’t expected to be so fussy for these fottballers and there families then why do our local club like gateshead, darlington, hartlepool and in my case spennymoor not manage to see such huge crowds?

  • 108 Average_Contents // Oct 1, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    Cyprus

    How can it be outdated? He’s still here.

    I’ll agree on the last sentence. Begrudgingly.

    Although, in the authors defence, he is a darn sarf lol

    Ibiza

    I’m good mate just majorly busy, like I haven’t had a day off in forever and it’s starting to catch up and yourself?

    Obviously charm is a commodity that never lessons despite the ravages of time. Expect more lol.

  • 109 Average_Contents // Oct 1, 2015 at 9:31 PM

    Go on, admit it you shithouse.

    You’ve missed me lots and loads.

    Before you say anything, remember, I’m Ronnie fcuking pickering Lmfco.

  • 110 Average_Contents // Oct 1, 2015 at 9:33 PM

    Who’s the first person off this blog people thought of when seeing that tit shouting it’s mouth off?

    Google.

  • 111 Average_Contents // Oct 1, 2015 at 9:35 PM

    Bedtime

    Ritual.

  • 112 toonking // Oct 1, 2015 at 9:43 PM

    our toon

    Whilst you are right when say more northern clubs have had better sucess I’d say most of that was during the days of pride passion and locals being in that team. It’s about money more than anything these days and with that come greed and wanting to stand out above the rest.

    Liverpool itself is a team which is now beginning to show increasing signs of a team no longer in top6 terms. The lucky thing about Manchester united is they’ve always had this great team and most people in the outside world would have describe them as englands barcalona., city might not have been such a reknown team to the outer world prior to it’s current owner but what’s helped them out more than anything is giantic wages mot would probably seem them as the real madrid in england.

  • 113 Ibizatoon // Oct 1, 2015 at 9:51 PM

    AC…Sorry, food called!

    Were you calling me “shithouse”? How rude 🙂

    No one has missed you. Come on man, don’t do this to yourself.

  • 114 Our Toon // Oct 1, 2015 at 10:04 PM

    Toon King

    That’s the point I’m making, location doesn’t mean anything to 90% of players, the most important is money followed by ambition. It’s the same for all of us in our jobs, you wouldn’t want to work for a company that has ZERO ambition and doesn’t offer growth or career progression….even if they paid well.

  • 115 Our Toon // Oct 1, 2015 at 10:05 PM

    If players are turning us down then it’s purely because we have no ambition and don’t want to meet there financial demands. Unlike qpr and Swansea as was the case with Gomis, ayew and remy!!

  • 116 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Oct 1, 2015 at 10:08 PM

    @Our Toon

    Yeah Swansea dont seem to have a problem getting British players and top foreign players to join them !

  • 117 Ibizatoon // Oct 1, 2015 at 10:11 PM

    OurToon…Let’s not forget it was a game of Fifa which swayed Remy in the end….yeah right.

  • 118 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Oct 1, 2015 at 10:27 PM

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/how-many-1998-premier-league-stars-can-you-name#.scRWOpDxo

    Test your premiership knowledge lads!! I got 17 out of 19

  • 119 Jail for Ashley // Oct 1, 2015 at 10:29 PM

    I’m now on a fast moving train after a speeding incident caused me to miss my first train and still can’t cpmment on the London thing which incidentally will never happen

  • 120 toonking // Oct 1, 2015 at 10:30 PM

    ourtoon

    What transfer and myself really relate location too is when your not one of them teams who can provide the large wages. When a foreign player is coming over his intentions are to get that chance of a premier league game those large wages and winning as many games as they can, as we know globally well known clubs and those who’ve got this billionaire owner it’s as easy as pie to get quality but those in the middle or lower end will not provide the winning frequency and top wages are going to be limited to just the one or two and this is when location itself can help because these players will know that both clubs are fight in the same area of the table they’ll both be giving simular wages but what those in the south can provide is more in terms personal enjoyment having got the better cities and towns.

  • 121 Our Toon // Oct 1, 2015 at 10:40 PM

    Toon King

    I don’t get that at all mate, I know plenty of people who dislike the hustle bustle nature of London but don’t mind going for a weekend or a week. Outside of Chelsea Arsenal and Spurs who all have more money than us who would you say is better than what we already have at other London clubs?

    It’s a non issue which is only being highlighted because we are inept at making the right decisions and paying the going rate. All clubs get around the same budget from tv deal, all clubs have money to spend, what other London club apart from the 3 I’ve mentioned has more financial might than NUFC both on and off the pitch?

  • 122 Fostino // Oct 1, 2015 at 10:41 PM

    I got 18 out of stock 19. The Blackburn player got me.

    If only we got deli Ali that time. .he’d have been perfect for our cm position.

    Barca want thauvin. …hmm. .he must be good???

    When on earth is Rolando signing new contract. He signs then tbe future looks bright with Mbabu. ..this lb…dummett…Armstong…Rolando. ..through the academy.

  • 123 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 1, 2015 at 10:48 PM

    AC…you lost me at “Just found this on newsnow” mate 😉

  • 124 Our Toon // Oct 1, 2015 at 10:49 PM

    The south may provide more in terms of entertainment, shopping etc but the north provides more in terms of peace and tranquillity, the North is more deprived in terms of industry but the people are perceived to be friendlier and more approachable.

    If you want money and entertainment then these players would be pushing for a move to Paris or Milan ahead of Watford or QPR, the London thing only becomes an issue when you run out of all other excuses for mismanagement and lack of ambition. QPR throw alot of money around, but Fernandes wants his team to do as well as possible and won’t stop spending as they have a project but have had managers take liabilities with his genrousity. Ashley has a glass ceiling!!

    Remy didn’t want to join us and went to QPR, he had no issues coming here on loan but remember he was off to Liverpool until they cancelled negotiations, he didn’t seem to bothered about the big lights of London at that point. Chelsea swooped in for him though but I vet if you offered him chelsea or Liverpool right now he’d take Liverpool all day long because his career is drifting away!!

  • 125 Our Toon // Oct 1, 2015 at 10:51 PM

    Fostino

    Rolando needs to prove his fitness before signing a new contract, injured again albeit for a few days but he’s not filling me with confidence with all the knocks and injuries he’s getting at this young age, doesn’t bode well for the future!!




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