If Newcastle Players Don´t Toughen Up – It´s Bad News


What has been apparent as much as anything this season is our players are not mentally tough – when we conceded a goal there´s not a reaction and it´s almost like it was in the relegation season when once we went down too many players assumed we would lose the game and we lost a lot of games that season (18).

Our squad was a decent squad in 2008-2009 and at the time the wage bill at Newcastle was the 6th highest in the Premier League but we still went down and we were struggling with relegation almost from the start of the season.

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Aleksandar Mitrovic scoring his first goal on Saturday

We got 4 points from the first two games,  but then we lost five games in a row in all competitions (four in the league) after Kevin Keegan left the club in early September.

After 8 league games we had one win and three draws for 6 points – which is three points more than we have at the moment – but we do have some good players in the squad this season.

It´s also good to put the pressure on players now to show some guts and fight when things are not going well too many of our players hang their heads – and that’s what happened on Saturday at the Etihad.

Steve McClaren was asked if he had enough fighters in the side:

“Very well put. In the last 12 to 18 months that has been the problem at this football club.” “We’re here to turn that around and we’re going to do whatever it takes to turn that around, and you’re absolutely right – that is a difficult job. That is a tough job to do.”

“But we’ll do it. We’re determined to do it and get back to work on Monday.” “As you say, this is not just happening now. This has been happening for 18 months. We have to turn it around.”

“They’re going to have to start getting the right mentality, otherwise we’re in the fight for the rest of the season.” “We’ve just got to have some consistency and we have to deal with setbacks a little bit better than presently.

“As you say it’s something in the history and we knew it would be hard to turn around.”

With Mitrovic and Perez looking good up front that should take some pressure off the team as we become a threat up front.

That was missing while Aleksandar was out for his three match ban – so we do expect the lads to start putting up some good results on the board.

We hope the lads  start putting up some good results on the board.

But the reality is that if our players keep giving up this could be another terrible season for Newcastle and then we´ll have to depend on some good new players coming into
Newcastle during the January transfer window.

But we expect our lads to start fighting in the upcoming games.

October
Sun 18	16:00	H	Norwich City			
Sun 25	12:00	A	Sunderland			
Sat 31	15:00	H	Stoke City				
November
Sat 07	12:45	A	Bournemouth				
Sat 21	15:00	H	Leicester City				
Sat 28	15:00	A	Crystal Palace				
December
Sat 05	15:00	H	Liverpool				
Sat 12	15:00	A	Tottenham				
Sat 19	15:00	H	Aston Villa				
Sat 26	15:00	H	Everton	 			
Mon 28	15:00	A	WBA	 

What do you think?

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152 comments so far

  • John Tudor

    Oct 5, 2015 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #1

    we expect our lads to start fighting in the upcoming games.
    ala bowyer and dyer

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  • Mag52

    Oct 5, 2015 at 2:47 PM

    Comment #2

    For me, the big test for Macca is how well he comes out of the upcoming derby v the Scum.
    Lose that one, and the knives really will be out for him.

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  • John Tudor

    Oct 5, 2015 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #3

    for me he has to show some balls and drop the turds

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  • The Newcastle Armchair

    Oct 5, 2015 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #4

    Problem is, Macca comes across as the type of manager who won’t shout at the players in a hairdryer type way to fire them up.

    He seems like the guy who tries to calmly encourage them even when they’ve played shyte.

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  • The Newcastle Armchair

    Oct 5, 2015 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #5

    Unless his post match interviews are a facade and he really is the Ferguson/Phil Brown type.

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  • toon kk

    Oct 5, 2015 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #6

    Mag
    if you were manager and had a sh.t squad how would you make them better? Years of poor buys will take years to put right, unfortunately I don’t think we’ll have the time.
    Macca can’t wave a wand, we have the worst team in the premier league so what can he do?

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  • John Tudor

    Oct 5, 2015 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #7

    irrespective of what he has or was promised he took ashley s shilling and its his job to drop the shyte players and mold a team to perform which he has not

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  • toon kk

    Oct 5, 2015 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #8

    The Newcastle
    I agree with you there, Macca doesn’t seem like the type to give them a good bollocking when required.

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  • The Newcastle Armchair

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #9

    Has anyone ever saw Glengarry Glen Ross before?

    Our players need that Alec Baldwin speech driven into them!

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  • hibbit

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #10

    simson is the enforcer ……..its all a pr act with Mc cool calm and collected just another gob shite trying to pull the wool over our eyes till he takes us down well i think he’s been found out big time just not good enough

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  • Ibizatoon

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #11

    What worries me is Steves ending with Derby.

    He showed that given the right tools he can do a job (whatever that job is / was is another discussion), but Derby nosedived. Why?

    Was it Steves experience that he talks so much about?

    I understand they got injuries to key players, well, that seems a given for any NUFC manager.

    He didn’t have the answers then, it seems, so how or why is he expected to have them here, at honestly, a higher profile and pressured job than Derby.

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  • John Tudor

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:11 PM

    Comment #12

    fire the sorry loosing bitches

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:21 PM

    Comment #13

    I think we’ll be relegated with about 20points onboard.

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  • The Newcastle Armchair

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #14

    I think Steve’s second half of the season last year was down to a number of things – one being obviously that we contacted him halfway through the season and that even though he rejected us, he must have had his fancy tickled (who wouldn’t want to take the Newcastle job being a division lower) but obviously wanted to see what he could do with Derby.

    It obviously played on his mind because we must have given assurances to him that we would pursue him further until the end of the season, hence the caretaker Carver appointment. Once the key injuries hit at Derby, he must have lost the motivation and once one defeat settled in, their noses turned for the worse.

    Hiring him was obviously a big risk, but my guess is that once Mashers heard ‘ex-England manager, Dutch title winner’, given the lesser knowledge of football he has, must have given the green light for Carr to hire his mate. Ashley’s last say on the board, now out the limelight and all problems deflected from his doorstep, job done.

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  • John Tudor

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #15

    if they dont toughen up?
    i thought the recruitment policy was based on a the right attitude and mental toughness
    utter garbage thats what happens when cretins run football clubs
    give them guff and theyll still roll up

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  • martoon

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #16

    toon kk @6 – That’s the thing – I don’t think we do have the worst squad in the premiership probably about mid-table I would say. The problem is we are playing like the worst squad in the premiership 🙁

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  • hibbit

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #17

    ilovetoon………be lucky if its that many

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  • Bambams

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #18

    Neck on the line time…
    I think we will be bottom five to bottom eight but we will only survive ‘IF’ we spend major money on a creative international play maker AND get both Matip and Austin or similar.
    Van Dijk is doing very well I see….
    Charnley knows he has to deliver

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  • SPRINGY

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:32 PM

    Comment #19

    macca shot himself in the foot by backing colo and effectively making him undroppable without looking like a divvy so soon into nufc career,colo is just part of the problem tho,these players have no fear of putting in a bad performance,there heads drop without any fear of backwash from the captain,the coachs or anyone but the fans who they are not interested in fighting for so why listen to them?…..macca has to change something quick..install some fear,some aggression make the players at leastwork for 90 mins regardless of the result would be a beginning….the scum and liverpool have already realised that time is short to change things

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  • John Tudor

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:32 PM

    Comment #20

    charmless cant deliver the morning papers

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  • John Tudor

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #21

    even even.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:35 PM

    Comment #22

    Newcastle Armchair…Possibly a fair assesment, but is that not worrying when you consider the task he has at Newcastle?

    Especially when all he talks about is his experience.

    I truly do wish him well, I also don’t hold him responsible for where we are. I just question whether he is the man to take on the task at hand.

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  • SPRINGY

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #23

    bambam
    its ok sayin invest heavily but if we are in a poor position no decent player will want to come…..these matches comin up are so important not just for points,table position but also recruitment in january

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  • hibbit

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #24

    bambams……charnley does not give two hoots what we think as long as the boss is happy he’s happy……………deliver what 17th in the prem…. great ashley will be pleased

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  • SPRINGY

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:40 PM

    Comment #25

    hibbit
    on current form ashley is not going to be happy then coz 17th may as well be a champions league place!!

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  • gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola)

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:43 PM

    Comment #26

    “If Newcastle Players Don´t Toughen Up – It´s Bad News”

    I think its a bit too late for that now….Its bad news now Ed….let’s not kid here.

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:45 PM

    Comment #27

    I still cant believe Gouffran played in centre mid in that last game!

    Who will play left back in the next game? Mbabu is injured is Dummett or Haidara available?

    I would like Dummett back he is a really good defender forget about going forward just defend !!

    I think Tiote will have to start the next game not ideal but he has 2 weeks training to get up to speed even though he is shite but at least he puts tackles in !

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  • gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola)

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:46 PM

    Comment #28

    The Newcastle Armchair

    Exactly that!!!!!

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  • hibbit

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:47 PM

    Comment #29

    springy……ash will be happy if we stay in the prem its bullshit he is bothered were in the prem just in it thats all that matters to him

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  • gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola)

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:47 PM

    Comment #30

    Mbabu injured….ow dear the Newcastle fitness team strikes again.

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  • John Tudor

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:51 PM

    Comment #31

    7 weeks we are fcuked

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  • barkel

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:53 PM

    Comment #32

    The worst thing looking at those fixtures is that I would have used to think we could win them all! I think realistically we should be expecting to be around the 20-23 point mark come the end of the year, that would average out to 46points and a finish somewhere between 10th-16th. Probably somewhat optimistic given our form for the past 12months but I do love my Toon-tinted glasses!

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  • SPRINGY

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #33

    is mbabu out for 7 weeks?
    dummet and haidara still out for 2-3weeks i believe

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  • toon kk

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #34

    Lee
    we only have about six players who are premier league quality the rest are a waste of space, its not long since people thought we had strength in depth.
    There’s no one to fall back on when injuries or suspensions set in.
    strange thing is some still think we have a good team.

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  • SPRINGY

    Oct 5, 2015 at 3:58 PM

    Comment #35

    barkel
    cant see gettin that many points but hope im bloody proved wrong!!

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  • SPRINGY

    Oct 5, 2015 at 4:01 PM

    Comment #36

    lee
    maybe thats why they stepped that young left back up from the reserves just before the the man city game,seems very coincidental that they do that then mbabu gets injured…makes me wonder if mbabu felt it during training last week and brought him in as cover?

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  • SPRINGY

    Oct 5, 2015 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #37

    looks like injurys
    18th oct
    haidara
    dummet
    colback
    obertan
    good
    aarons
    rivierre(may need another op)
    marveaux
    dec 15th
    s taylor
    no date
    k darlow
    mbabu needs scan ..looking likely to be several weeks

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  • toon-to-win

    Oct 5, 2015 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #38

    Coloccino
    Williamson
    Taylor
    Good

    Bigimarana
    Marvaux
    Tiote
    Gouffran

    Cisse
    Riviere

    Just to clarify this is not my starting 11 for the next game! Think this list are the players that need to be shipped out fast. The likes of obertan, Anita etc should be our squad players and obviously some quality brought in to expan the then depleted squad and improve it dramatically! I would take Austin for all the above so if imagine Austin would cost around £8-10m in Jan so if we got £10m for that lot it say it’s good business!!

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  • hibbit

    Oct 5, 2015 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #39

    springy………..same could be said about colbeck was touch and go all week for the chelsea game but had to play him now out for 3/4 weeks………goofy anyone

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  • The Newcastle Armchair

    Oct 5, 2015 at 4:38 PM

    Comment #40

    Ibiza

    It is very worrying, but I, like you know that Ashley is a gambling man, and would much rather take a punt on a cheap ‘experienced’ (when was he last in the prem?) manager.

    Someone pointed out today that Macca was his hope to guaranteeing mid-table for years to come, but unless he has a vice-versa season here where the first half is poor, but the second half is more wins, then I’m afraid Ashley has been put into checkmate.

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