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Newcastle Making January Plans – But Board Must Do This

9:57 am, Thursday, October 8th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 70 Comments

So far it doesn’t look like the £52M net spent in the summer has done much at all for the Newcastle side, with our defense still too weak and our attack not able to score enough goals.

Newcastle have the lowest number of points (3), the lowest number of goals scored (6) and the most goals conceded (17) and therefore the worst goal difference at -11, after only eight games played.

There’s nothing like the facts to concentrate the mind.

lee charnley close-up

Lee Charnley Board must fix weaknesses – nothing else

According to Steve McClaren the Newcastle Board will shortly be reviewing the summer transfer window and figuring out what to do in January.

Newcastle didn’t really fully address our big problems in the summer when we should have brought in more defenders.

We are not only still too weak in defense, but too many of our defenders are injury prone – with Dummett, Haidara, Taylor and now Mbabu out injured again.

Three have hamstring injuries with Haidara having a knee problem.

To rely on Coloccini as one of the permanent center-backs looks like an error of judgment by McClaren although Fabricio can still come through for us and help steady the ship this season.

At the moment, it looks like a luxury that we let Remy Cabella go but brought in what looks like a very similar player in many ways in Florian Thauvin.

Why bring in Thauvin when a player of similar ability, temperament  and physique had failed miserably in the Premier League last season?

We hope Thauvin comes through, but that’s always looked like a risky deal pushed through by Graham Carr.

Why didn’t we spend that money on a top center back or another striker to fix our weaknesses and balance the squad?

Two big problems we have had over the last 18 months or more are conceding too many goals  and not being able to score goals.

So if we are to spend more big money in January the Newcastle Board have to be to fix the problems – they must address Newcastle weaknesses with the current squad.

It would also work if the players we bring in can go straight into the first team and start producing almost immediately.

Therefore signing British players or even players from the Bundesliga, where the football is as physical as in England, would seem to be a good ploy.

But the Newcastle Board of Directors – Lee Charnley, Steve McClaren, Graham Carr and Bob Moncur  have to get real and start to fix the real problems we’ve had at the club now for far too long.

If they fail to do that in January there is a likelihood that we’ll be a Championship club come May – and it will have been our own fault.

Comments welcome.

Note: Hi, my name is Ben Rushton, I am 6 years old and want to raise money for the McMillan Cancer Support.

I am going to climb Mount Snowdon with my Mum, Dad and Auntie Nic and I will do my very best to get to the top while keeping everyone updated on my way up. I will be doing this on 18th October 2015 in 2 weeks time.

Please see if you can donate here to help me help other people – thanks.

Tags: Newcastle News · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target

70 responses so far ↓

  • 1 JackButler // Oct 8, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Panic is setting in, but we’ve been here before and yet the system and those who push it through are still at the club.

    How many times do we have to go round in circles until something changes?

  • 2 Blofal // Oct 8, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    To be fair Haidara never had a knee problem until McManaman decided to fly kick it.

  • 3 Munster Mag // Oct 8, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Welsh, I agree with that. Short term , Ashley isnt the problem or the solution. Medium and long term is a different issue, but he gave us plenty of money and we bought some decent talent in the summer. Added to that, players like Janmaat and Krul are decent overall. But the manager and players need to up their game a lot. Carr needs to push for a change in the transfer policy, as does SMC, and start demanding the right to buy players over 26/27. I am concerne dthat many of our players are coming from the same agents but sometime wonder if Carr is on a small percentage bonus if a Tioe ( for example ) is sold for big bucks after a few years – ie it suits Carr to keep looking for kids. I am possibly being unfair, but I have no doubt that Ashley will spend good bucks again. SMC must surely only have 4-5 games to prove himself. He is beginning to look like a man who :

    1. Cannot motivate or “get through” to his players
    2. Cant decide on a formation that suits.

  • 4 hibbit // Oct 8, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    are TWO flops better than ONE……….. cabella could be back in january they dont want him

  • 5 Munster Mag // Oct 8, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    Blofa, , and Martinez said nothing just supported the scouse knacker. Never liked Martinez since.

  • 6 JackButler // Oct 8, 2015 at 10:15 AM


    Short term, medium term, long term, Ashley is at fault no matter how you look at it. It’s obvious that Carr is pushing his own agenda on who we sign as this summers players were already coming in before SM took the job.

    Ashley is the man that put Carr on the board with an eight year contract, he is the man that elevated Charnley from secretary to chairman and he is the man that continues to allow both Carr and Charnley to operate the club on a daily basis so the finger can be pointed nowhere else as both Carr and Charnley have shown they are simply not the right men to hold their positions time after time but both remain at the club

  • 7 Jail for Ashley // Oct 8, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    From previous, probably lost on you but I’ll try and explain, Mike Ashley is the man responsible for the strategy in which the way the club is being run and after a relegation and four relegation battles in eight years is proving to be an abject failure, every decision from unheard of bonus schemes, cancelling goal bonuses to this policy of buying young untested foreign imports has his stamp all over it, brilliant for a tacky cheap sports chain, not so in the PL. But again, Ashleys decision making, he has decided to hire fawning yes men, not for their ability on footballing nous but their unquavering loyalty and willingness to carry out his instructions. What did the proven liar Dirk Llambias say about Hughton “we wanted someone who would argue back” don’t make me laugh.

  • 8 Jail for Ashley // Oct 8, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    What bit don’t you get man. Carr and Mclaren have been hired because they won’t do that !

  • 9 Jib // Oct 8, 2015 at 10:31 AM

    M’Babu out for 2 weeks – hamstring

  • 10 lochinvar // Oct 8, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    makes you cringe does it not – straight out the dark ages and from a club that’s being investigated for the financial arrangements surrounding the Olympic Stadium.
    Only hope for them is that there’s a Boots nearby selling lots of bubbles….

    West Ham chairman David Gold hopes moving to the Olympic Stadium will boost the club’s female fan base because it is based close to a shopping centre. (Daily Mail)

  • 11 davetoon // Oct 8, 2015 at 10:44 AM

    The whole irony of the manager situation is that Ashley sacked a guaranteed 10-17 position manager in Allardyce when he bought the club and replaced him with Keagan!

  • 12 Jib // Oct 8, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    Sissoko to Milan in January !!!

    Milan were quoted €18 million which they thought was too high , they think they’ll get him for €15 million in the Winter window which should be enough for us to prise Jannik Vestergaard away from Werder Bremen

  • 13 Average_Contents // Oct 8, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    Hey lads n lasses

    Don’t know if anyone’s noticed but at the bottom of ed’s article there’s a piece about my little lad who’s climbing Snowdon for macmillan and it’d be great if anyone could spare some cash and make a donation for a worthwhile cause. No amount is too small.

    He decided to do it, off his own back because his school friends nan has just been diagnosed with cancer.

    Not sure if anyone will remember but I did mention on here he wasn’t very well not so long ago (fluid on his hip and had to have an operation) so it’s going to be a struggle for him plus he’s only 6 so any extra motivation would be great 🙂

    Thanks guys,


  • 14 davetoon // Oct 8, 2015 at 10:58 AM

    He sounds like a great lad AC.

  • 15 lesh // Oct 8, 2015 at 10:59 AM


    Will Carr have any interest in changing our transfer policy? I think not and wonder whether he’s on a percentage of profits derived from the sale of players he’s brought in?

    If he is on a percentage, that would explain the purchase of players who do not strengthen the squad where we need it.

    If, however he’s paid on the basis of bonus for league placing, that might just focus his mind on the squad and its needs rather than player sales.

    My speculation, completely unfounded but…..

  • 16 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Oct 8, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    Might be something in that Milan for Sissoko rumour I could see him dominating in the slower pace of the Italian league

    Also I cant see any of our top 4 even considering Sissoko

  • 17 lesh // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:03 AM


    The only reason he sacked Sam and hired Keegan was because the fans wanted that. He wanted popularity until well, Keegangate!

  • 18 Average_Contents // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:03 AM

    There’s a link to the go fund me page there too. We tried to set up a just giving one straight to macmillan but couldn’t do it so what we’re going to do is withdraw all the donations out of his auntie’s bank and any cash donations he’s got and go to the bank to deposit it and get one of those silly cheques and get his picture taken with it.

    And yes, you all know my name 😉

    Again, any help no matter how small will go a big way in helping him achieve the enormous task he’s set himself 🙂

  • 19 Sav // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:05 AM

    Seems like the main reason for buying Thauvin was to be able to construct a deal to get shot of Cabella. There was an old woman who swallowed a fly….How Carr watched Thauvin and didn’t see the potential in Ayew beats all. And as for Cabaye, no-one needed to tell us what he could do,

  • 20 Average_Contents // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    Oh and he’s a budding little nufc to boot.

    Thanks davetoon and yeah he’s a lovely little lad

  • 21 Average_Contents // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:09 AM


  • 22 Jib // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:19 AM


    André Ayew picked Swansea himself.

    This had something to do with it (2 of his family attend)

  • 23 jimiley // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:23 AM

    The board must do this………….sack itself.

    Until the upper echelons of management are gone at this club, including Ashley, the club will continue to go backwards. The players are not the real problem. Ronaldo and Messi would look rubbish at NUFC. The club’s soul is dead. The players know it and do not perform. Its an empty vessel .

  • 24 toon kk // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:24 AM

    How come most can see can see where the problems lie but the club sticks with it’s policy’s.
    Although players always seem to go back over when they join the mad house of NUFC.

  • 25 Jib // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    I never had you figured for a member of the hysterical , knee jerk responding , over exaggerating , moaning minnies set.

  • 26 davetoon // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:28 AM

    @lesh seems like a world away now doesnt it

  • 27 Jib // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:28 AM

    toon kk
    Now you however I always had figured for a member of the………………..set

  • 28 jimiley // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:29 AM

    I was only joking. I am pretty pleased with the way things are going. I cannot understand what all the fuss is about. We should get behind Schteeve and judge him in May.

  • 29 Jib // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:34 AM

    You shouldn’t joke on here they’ve all (with a few notable exceptions) had their sense of humour surgically removed .

  • 30 Jib // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:37 AM

    Blatter Platini and Valcke suspended by FIFA !!!!

  • 31 Jib // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:39 AM

    Jerome Valcke FIFA gen sec

  • 32 jimiley // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:42 AM

    Yeah you are right, this lot have no sense of humour at all. All they do is moan. Whats there to moan about? Even Ed is getting a pain in the butt sniping away at the owner and manager etc etc. God help us if he had something to real moan about, like a dysfunctional team or owner. Keep the faith.

  • 33 Munster Mag // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:42 AM

    Danny, i will to sort a few bob for the wee man. Assume euros are ok? Jail, as Ashley is going nowehere ( until we have won sa’ink !! ) I dont see much point concerntrating on him. He has invested in some decent talent this summer and although belated, never was given credit for that. And in fairness Carr brought well but I think Ashley will cop on a bit now about the age limit, in the short term anyway.

  • 34 Jib // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    You are way too tricky for this site (too many Yanks and foreigners)
    I get you , you sarky bastid but not many will.

  • 35 Jib // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:49 AM

    Klitchko and Fury rescheduled for November.

    I wonder what excuse Vladimir will come up with then ?

  • 36 jimmysmith // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:56 AM

    Seep’s finally set off on his journey to the big house, I notice.

  • 37 Munster Mag // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:56 AM

    Sav, what age is Ayew ?

  • 38 jimmysmith // Oct 8, 2015 at 11:57 AM


  • 39 John Tudor // Oct 8, 2015 at 12:11 PM

    no correct first time Seep

  • 40 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 8, 2015 at 12:31 PM

    Fire that board!

    Tabula resa!

  • 41 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 8, 2015 at 12:33 PM

    I am pretty sure that board at my kid kindergarten could run this club better!

    …Ruth is ruthless 😉 she knows what to do!

  • 42 Average_Contents // Oct 8, 2015 at 12:35 PM

    Think so munster mate, much appreciated.

    I think whoever donates can leave a message so if anyone does decide to help my lad out could you please put your off the nufc blog just so I can keep track.

    Nice one.

  • 43 Our Toon // Oct 8, 2015 at 12:37 PM

    AC I’ll have a look at it later this evening after work and donate mate.

  • 44 Lynxie // Oct 8, 2015 at 12:41 PM

    Average Contents:
    Any chance you could direct me to that link for the young lad’s charity fundraising page please?
    Cheers matey.

  • 45 Our Toon // Oct 8, 2015 at 12:42 PM

    Wasn’t long ago 90% of you were all hailing sissoko and saying we should sign him, same with Anita when McClaren took over. When Santon played he was berated and most said dummett was better, when dummett got a run in the team it was clear to all he was shite so most hailed Haidara as the saviour amd best LB, now Haidara has had a rub in the team it’s clear Santon was by far the best option.

    I keep reading comments like Carr is making mistakes but as fans alot of you get hyped about players but after a few months hate sets in, says more about the culture at Newcastle than the ability of players.

    The only thing I blame Carr for is the lack of CB signings but I believe this has come from above his head as Colo is the highest paid player, no way Ashley wants his highest paid player to sit on the bench whilst getting massive wages.

  • 46 Our Toon // Oct 8, 2015 at 12:43 PM

    Run in the team not rub!!

  • 47 Average_Contents // Oct 8, 2015 at 12:43 PM

    Or just put toon toon! Like someone else did lol. Thanks for that whoever you are.

    Thanks Ourtoon.

    Oh big thanks to Ed for firstly putting it up on here and secondly donating £30!

  • 48 Lynxie // Oct 8, 2015 at 12:43 PM

    AC, Sorry, I found it at the top of the page (What a blind tw*t ha ha ha )

  • 49 Average_Contents // Oct 8, 2015 at 12:44 PM


    It’s at the bottom of ed’s article mate

  • 50 Jib // Oct 8, 2015 at 12:48 PM

    Our Toon
    Don’t make the mistake of equating whatever the majority on here say and the real feelings of genuine Toon fans .

  • 51 Our Toon // Oct 8, 2015 at 12:48 PM

    For a player playing for this club what incentive do they have to perform?

    The club is against getting in Europe competitions because it leads to relegation, against cup runs as it leads to relegation

  • 52 Transfer Sage // Oct 8, 2015 at 12:57 PM

    For me Ashley did allow the club to spend good money in the summer. The amount wasn’t an issue. How it was spent was not very wise. Mitro, Mbemba and Wijnaldum seem good signings, the types of players we need.

    However more effort should have been made to remove some deadwood and bring in a couple more experienced heads. However we never do this as their is no sell on value. Potential why the squad often struggles when things get tough and just fold.

    Ashley needs to look at his board if he is serious (which I don’t think he is personally) about progressing the club and winning things. He either recruits bad people consistently, Wise, Kinnear, Llambias, Charnley, McClaren (in my opinion) or deliberately gets people who won’t rock the boat and tell him to change his approach.

  • 53 Macas // Oct 8, 2015 at 1:00 PM

    Our Toon – I would have thought a hefty wage packet every week and 52000 fans turning up to watch them would be enough incentive.

  • 54 Average_Contents // Oct 8, 2015 at 1:03 PM

    Thanks lynxie

  • 55 barkel // Oct 8, 2015 at 1:05 PM

    TS –

    Removing the deadwood I imagine would be tougher than we imagine, there’s only so many players you can release before the PFA get involved! Then we have to spend very big to get the numbers to make up the squad.

    I don’t think it’s a total disaster just yet, in the last couple of games we’ve been creating more chances and scoring goals, we look a threat going forward. The second half against city was unbelievable, everything they touched turned to goals, I reckon there’s 12-14 other teams in the league they could do that against.

    It’s not going to be a great season for us, squad building this year, there’ll be 1 or 2 signed in Jan and maybe another 3 or 4 in the summer. I think we will finish anywhere between 10-16 on about 38-46pts

  • 56 Average_Contents // Oct 8, 2015 at 1:21 PM


    Much appreciated mate.

  • 57 toon-to-win // Oct 8, 2015 at 1:23 PM

    The £52m hasnt seem to have done much, but take away mitrovic’s presence against united which we got a point and wijnuldums two goals, which got a point in each game. Stick williamson in cb and lose mbemba and we would potentially be sat here with 0 points. Thauvin was a waste, think cabella in his 2nd year was a safer bet than throwing thauvin in! On the transfer topic, with van persie looking unhappy with his move to fernabache, would anyone like to see him at the toon with mitro up front?

  • 58 Jib // Oct 8, 2015 at 1:31 PM

    Van persie doesn’t seem very popular with other Dutch players (remember the conflict with Tim ?)
    and we have 5.

  • 59 Jib // Oct 8, 2015 at 1:34 PM

    RvP is a horrible piece of kit

  • 60 Tinman // Oct 8, 2015 at 1:35 PM

    Been very busy recently so haven’t managed to comment. Luckily it’s the international break.

    I saw a video of Van Persie giving around 5% effort in a warm up for Fenerbache the other day. He is an arse.

  • 61 c-dog // Oct 8, 2015 at 1:38 PM

    Scott Dann – Proven Premier League quality is a must surely

  • 62 Our Toon // Oct 8, 2015 at 1:39 PM


    Hefty wage packet and 52k is why they join us in the first place but that novelty soon wares off. Players like all people in jobs look for the next career step if they can’t get what they want in the current job. We may be daft enough to turn up and know what to expect but the players don’t have the same affinity or love for the club like some of us!!

  • 63 Tinman // Oct 8, 2015 at 1:40 PM


    Good luck to your son! Have just been fundraising for Macmillan myself recently. Now if only some of the Newcastle players had a bit of the gusto shown by your lad!

  • 64 lochinvar // Oct 8, 2015 at 1:43 PM

    To beat the like of Norwich we have to play them off the park and to start, just start to lay some demons to rest by winning by a decent margin such as 4-0

    Just wondering what state the pitch will be in after all the rugby ?
    Is it relaid ?
    Either way a badly cut up pitch wont do us any favours and suits hoofball more than football…..thats all we need , McLaren blaming the condition of the grass !

  • 65 Tinman // Oct 8, 2015 at 1:50 PM


    I imagine it will be getting a lot of love and care. This has been expected and the international break should give us plenty of time to patch it up!
    Would be a classic excuse mind

  • 66 Average_Contents // Oct 8, 2015 at 2:08 PM


    Thanks for the donation mate 🙂

  • 67 Tinman // Oct 8, 2015 at 2:22 PM

    No problem!

    Updates on my site including, a News roundup and tonight’s betting tips after going 3/3 last time out.

    Follow me on twitter @F_Newcastle to get quicker updates.

  • 68 barkel // Oct 8, 2015 at 2:31 PM


    Supposedly the pitch was re-laid during the summer with a new type of grass because the rugby was being played. They’ll have a full week to sort it out so I’m sure it’ll be fine

  • 69 nut meg // Oct 8, 2015 at 2:41 PM

    the pitch

  • 70 ilovetoon8788 // Oct 8, 2015 at 2:56 PM

    best news i heard in a long while.

    sisokko may be off to Milan for 13m. i thought we cuold barely get 5m off him. an absolute disgrace to the shirt. i think he’s the poison in the dressing room.

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