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Devastated Tim Krul – Scan Confirmed My Biggest Fear

10:30 pm, Sunday, October 11th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 46 Comments

Tim Krul has talked since learning he is set for a long recovery after he has been diagnosed with a ruptured Anterior Cruciate Ligament injury which will take anywhere from six months to nine months and maybe more to fully heal until the Newcastle goalkeeper can play again.

Tim said it was his biggest fear that he had indeed torn his cruciate ligament – the scans have confirmed that today.

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Tim Krul – his worst fears realized

Tim wasn’t even supposed to play last night in Kazakhstan but during the warm up to the Euro 2016 qualifier goalkeeper Jasper Cillessen injured himself and in came Tim at short notice.

And the Dutch were 2-0 up and cruising to victory when Krul injured himself in the 81st minute when he fell awkwardly when challenging for the ball.

This is what Krul said on Sunday night as reported in the Chronicle:

“I am devastated the scan has confirmed my biggest fear that I have torn my knee cruciate playing for Holland.” “My recovery and hard work starts now to fully recover.”

“I am devastated I cannot play a part on the pitch to help the team and turn the season around.” “I still believe the club can and should be up with the top teams.”

Karl Darlow is also out with an ankle/foot injury and 18 year-old England U19 International goalkeeper Freddie Woodman has been recalled from his loan at Crawley Town.

Rob Elliott – who has never let Newcastle down when he’s come into the first team and so far played 28 times will be in goal against Norwich City next Sunday with Freddie on the bench.

Unfortunately for Rob the Republic of Ireland lost 2-1 in Poland tonight in the final group qualifier for the Euro 2016 Championships and if they are to qualify for the finals in France next summer it will be via the playoffs which they qualify for in 3rd place of Group D with 18 points.

The Norwich game is a vital game for Newcastle and we must start winning some games soon.

This is bad news for Tim Krul and bad news for Newcastle United.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Freddie Woodman · Injuries · International break · International News · Karl Darlow · Newcastle News · Rob Elliot

46 responses so far ↓

  • 1 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 11, 2015 at 10:44 PM

    I feel for Krul. This is the worst thing that can happen to a footballer!

    Sadly he hasn’t been good for us for a long time and maybe it’s time we address that! That and our shaky defense…

  • 2 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 11, 2015 at 10:46 PM

    Maybe with a proper manager come January!

    …at some point Ashley is bound to see his mistakes

    Get that board in order and get some quality people at management!

  • 3 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 11, 2015 at 11:01 PM

    I thought Elliot was injured also? Is he fit?

  • 4 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 11, 2015 at 11:13 PM


    I can’t see how changing managers is going to help the situation? They are still going to be given young inexperienced players instead of filling the gaping holes and leadership problems throughout the squad. The same problems have existed under Pardew, Carver and they were blamed for everything under the sun, a manager can only work with what he has. Add in a half a dozen injuries and we are done.

    The squad needs sorting oot not the manager and coaching staff.

  • 5 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 11, 2015 at 11:23 PM

    TP…if you don’t think it matters who coaches these kids then I don’t know what to say!

  • 6 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 11, 2015 at 11:32 PM


    Of course it matters, I just think the problems stem from the transfer policies not the coaches. 8 games is nout really. These coaches have alot of experience they know the problems.

    If they bring in some experience and solid performers instead of so many gambles we will be alot better off I think.

  • 7 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 11, 2015 at 11:48 PM

    TP…we don’t just have one problem mate!

    …there are plenty! Sure recruitment is one of them, but from Pardew to McClaren they have been complicit in what goes on.

    They are just making matters worse…they are what you call opportunists!

  • 8 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 12, 2015 at 12:00 AM


    The only thing these managers have in common is that they sign on the dotted line into a flawed system where it is near enough impossible to succeed. I don’t think it’s because they are all useless. What is the point of chopping and changing coaches and blaming them without sorting out the major issues throughout the club?

    Who can really achieve anything with the way we do our business?

    I think where we are is deserved really because of the neglect and policies over the last 5 years or so, until that’s corrected and we start changing our ways we will continue to spiral. It must happen in January or we are done for I reckon.

  • 9 Blofal // Oct 12, 2015 at 12:07 AM

    This is Elliot’s chance. On his day he is just as good as Krul and a better distributor of the ball.

    With enough games under his belt could be very good. The only problem is he can be a little injury prone. We might have to bring in a keeper on loan in January.

  • 10 jimmysmith // Oct 12, 2015 at 12:09 AM

    “I still believe the club can and should be up with the top teams.”

    All the while playing against confident pros, who are determinedly running around trying to keep you down.

    Our belief is a fragile one. You might think that we’ll be relying on one or two of the three promoted teams who haven’t had their own self belief dented yet, and who are still playing on adrenaline, eventually falling victim to the remorseless nature of the league, and one or two of Villa, Sunderland or Brom.

    We are among that group, despite having a talented young set of players, thanks mainly to the awful decisions connected with the second half of last season, and a long history of underspending.

    It’s not that long ago that we were a real chance of pushing into the top six, and instead of adding to the squad in that January window, we sold Johann Cabaye and didn’t replace him.

  • 11 mikeyconcon // Oct 12, 2015 at 12:11 AM

    Feel bad for him. Never nice to see an injury like this. Hope his recovery goes well. On his day he’s a top class keeper.

  • 12 The overrated Frenchman // Oct 12, 2015 at 12:18 AM

    Not a top-class keeper in my opinion. Capable of having great days, making great stops, but too many flaws in his game in general.

  • 13 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 12, 2015 at 12:20 AM


    Wasn’t that through sheer luck because of injuries though? For once we seemed to have a stable side throughout the season. What is it, 1 in 8?

    I think we need to branch out and start paying the going rate for top players on 80-100k a week. We need to start battling for players Swansea and West Ham are snapping up, I think it’s fair to say these young lads and our policies just ain’t cutting it. It’s OK bringing a couple of youngsters in at a time but when your whole recruitment policy involves it, it starts to cause problems. Leadership being one of them.

    Rob Lee had it bang on last week, these youngsters have no one to turn to or look up to, especially when the going gets tough.

    New countries, culture, club. Difficult.

  • 14 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Oct 12, 2015 at 12:30 AM


    Sorry mate, you’re looking at this upside down. Pardew isn’t a great coach, the jury is out on whether he’s a good coach. However, with some backing he does seem capable of getting good football out of Crystal Palace, and is seeing their rise up the table. Without that backing he was a relegation struggler. I’m not saying that he’s a brilliant manager, but he’s better than the results he had at Newcastle seemed to indicate.

    Surely the same could be said for McClaren.

    You don’t want to point the finger at Ashley because it’s more effort to oust an owner than a manager. Getting rid of McClaren won’t achieve owt, because they’ll just hire another puppet on a string who is just like him.

    When are you going to start attacking the puppeteer? Until he leaves, you’re forever going to be whinging about managers, yet you don’t seem to grasp how utterly futile that pursuit truly is.

  • 15 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 12, 2015 at 12:35 AM

    I don’t think a team with Ba, Cabaye, Remy, Debuchy, would see us bottom of the league. If we had of been pushing and making them feel wanted and paying the going rate in wages we could have a top side.

    They have went the youngings route on cheaper wages and using us as a stepping stone, surely we are better than that.

  • 16 Menelauos // Oct 12, 2015 at 12:36 AM

    Tore, Kryochowiak, Willems, Sule, Austin.
    That would give is a team in the top 8.

  • 17 jimmysmith // Oct 12, 2015 at 12:45 AM

    One thing that will occur, when a player has established himself, is that he becomes one of those experienced players we now lack.

    The policy I think can work, and even pay rich dividends for the club, so long as we keep our better players.

    We need to stay up first and foremost of course, and we need to offer competitive money to our senior players, and we have to be sincere about achieving top eight, a domestic cup, and European football.

    But we certainly shouldn’t be in this mess, and there certainly was no need for it.

  • 18 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 12, 2015 at 1:05 AM


    I was over the moon we didn’t sell anyone and was open to progress and moving forward for once. I think the mistakes over the last 5 years are evident now though. The policies are too much of a gamble.

    I look at the team and don’t see one leader. Both Sissoko and Colo have wanted to leave, Cisse isn’t happy. We have only one other recognized Premier League player in Colback in the side. The rest are adapting or are youngings who still need to prove plenty, or are struggling, Williamson, Obertan, Gouffran.

    I can’t see it working short or long term.

  • 19 Blofal // Oct 12, 2015 at 1:12 AM

    It can only work if you keep your leaders. Unfortunately the club has a policy of removing strong personalities from the dressing room as soon possible. Gutierrez, Nolan, Barton and Santon were all given the boot.

    The player we need more than any other right now is Gutierrez. And I think Coloccini played better with him in the team.

  • 20 jimmysmith // Oct 12, 2015 at 1:16 AM

    I think Ashley is committed to it and I think it can work. But there has to be a finite time for it to achieve something worthwhile. If we stay up, then another two seasons to deliver, to my mind. I think that is a reasonable time scale. If not, he surely has to be forced out once and for all, and to be honest if it happened now, you wouldn’t blame the fans. It’s been a terrible 12 months in particular, and a largely grim eight years.

  • 21 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 12, 2015 at 1:27 AM


    They have got rid of every high earner off the books in the past 5 years to bring in untested youngings on cheaper wages and now it’s coming home to roost. Why they persist with this model is ridiculous. You would think they would of caught on after our scrapes. There has to be a balance of experience in the squad surely.

  • 22 Blofal // Oct 12, 2015 at 1:44 AM

    TP the scary thing is they have actually improved the model!

    The first model under Llambias was to have the first team “purple players” backed up by “utility” players that could just fill in when there was an injury. Anita was bought for that purpose. Failed miserably!!

  • 23 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 12, 2015 at 1:48 AM


    But we will let players move on if they do well, we don’t fight or improve their wages.. Which puts us back to square one with bringing in more untested youngsters. We’re a shop really, pretending we’re competing, all to bring in a tidy balance on the lowest budget possible.

    Throwing 50 mil at the same policies that got us into the mess to begin with is a bit of a joke to me. But Ashley thinks he can recoup most of it.

  • 24 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 12, 2015 at 2:03 AM


    Is that why Anita was bought? I always thought it was because they thought they were making a profit on Cabaye but it didn’t come off that window.

  • 25 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 12, 2015 at 5:23 AM

    TP…you are all too focused on one aspect in your blame -game and it’s you no good!

    We are going absolute nowhere with that thinking. You are not accepting those who work in positions with responsibility actually has responsibility.

    You are even neglecting accountability. For you it seems that’s only applied to the owner. You cannot just focus on him if you want to come out on top.

  • 26 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 12, 2015 at 5:31 AM

    Ruddy…morning mate. I just disagree with 50% of the blog on this matter…whole heartedly 😉

    Personally I think it’s right in front of us why we are stuck where we are (I know who’s at the top don’t worry) and we actually play s big part in that.

    This idea about just focusing on the system out in place by our owner, a flawed system agree, and at the same time disregarding everything else – cause that is actually what is happening here, has proved so far to be a mistake.

    We are at the same place as we were under Pardew with under qualified people taking us back worth. They are here because it suits them. The board needs to be changed and personally that’s where my main focus is (I still have one eye on the flawed system)

  • 27 Ron Knee // Oct 12, 2015 at 5:58 AM

    Morning jesper

    While it’s always difficult to predict what the parasite will do, I think the clock is ticking for Charmless.

    Ashley spent around £50 million to avoid last season’s angst and to ensure stress-free, mid-table mediocrity but he’s not getting it.

    I wouldn’t like to be in Charnley’s shoes if the next two matches are disappointing.

  • 28 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 12, 2015 at 6:06 AM

    Morning Ron…I think other clubs have proved the system can and does work. You need the right people to exercise it and they need to know when and when not to focus on just signing foreigners from foreign leagues.

    I think it has shown when we put pressure on the coach and the owner something happens…but when we stop they also sort of stop.

    Charnley is never going to make the right calls he has shown that (he just makes matters worse) so lets hope once and for all he’s out next along with the rest of the board.

  • 29 headtheball // Oct 12, 2015 at 6:11 AM

    Our esteemed owner stated we would make our own luck so I have every faith he will leave no stone unturned and no horse or cart unbolted to reverse our plight.
    Repeat after me ” Mike is the Man ”

  • 30 Ron Knee // Oct 12, 2015 at 6:16 AM


    I think Charmless was able to wriggle out of things last season – Percy’s shock departure; JC proving unbelievably incompetent – but he hasn’t got the same excuses now.

    He would have convinced Ashley that McClaren was a safe pair of hands and the £50 million was wisely invested.

    Let’s see what happens in the next two matches.

  • 31 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 12, 2015 at 6:26 AM

    Ron…it’s the safe -pair of hands thinking that’s getting us in trouble again 🙂

    …we need something new and someone who’s up for it. Both as a manager and as a GM!

  • 32 Ron Knee // Oct 12, 2015 at 6:45 AM


    The problem is trying to get inside Ashley’s head. We don’t know what goes on there!

    He will see that things are going badly but is he able to analyse why? Is he capable of self-criticism?

    Does he blame the gods, the supporters, Charmless & Carr, McClaren, the players, himself?

    If he gives Charmless the sack isn’t that an admission of his own failure?

    It’s a puzzle – just like that extension to Coloccini’s contract!

  • 33 firebug666 // Oct 12, 2015 at 6:58 AM


    Is he able to analyse why?

    You know he get’s all his football advise off his mate JFK right! 😀

    Ashley will not want relegation, he want’s his free advertising, but I’m not sure he can do anything about it while he keeps his pet in charge.

    We know how he likes to breed loyalty into his staff, but blind loyalty is a recipe for disaster.

    Where is this ruthless business man I keep hearing about?

  • 34 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 12, 2015 at 6:58 AM

    Ron…lets see how big a man he is 😉 lol

  • 35 lesh // Oct 12, 2015 at 7:01 AM


    Of course sacking Charnley’d be seen as confirmation of Ashley’s poor judgement and it’s because of that, I suspect that Llambias might drop in to help cover a period when Charnley’s not able to act as MD, a period of sickness or unavoidable absence – a face-saving charade.

    Hey ho

  • 36 lesh // Oct 12, 2015 at 7:02 AM


    How big? It remains to be seen.

  • 37 Ron Knee // Oct 12, 2015 at 7:06 AM


    ‘On grounds of ill-health’: it’s got a nice ring to it!

  • 38 Ron Knee // Oct 12, 2015 at 7:09 AM


    If he really was a big man he’d realise he wasn’t cut out for the football business and move on. We can but dream!

  • 39 catchy in norway // Oct 12, 2015 at 7:25 AM

    i hate to say this about the kid, as i like him, but i think this could be a blessing in disguise, i think he has been shocking for well over a season now, and he has to be the worst kicker in the top 2 divisions, his best part used to be his shot stopping, reaction saves, now you dont seem to have to shoot very hard at him and it goes in..

    i wish him a speedy recovery

  • 40 catchy in norway // Oct 12, 2015 at 7:29 AM

    The biggest problem we have at the club right now is LC , I have no faith in his ability to lead the club in the right direction. He is not brave enough to stand on his own 2 feet, he is the kind of guy that seeks approval for everything he does, I fear he misses out on a lot of opportunities because of his indecision

  • 41 firebug666 // Oct 12, 2015 at 7:31 AM


    I agree mate, his distribution is terrible, and he holds onto the ball far too long before he kicks it out of play.

    Elliott has a much faster and better distribution, but is not as good at shot stopping.

  • 42 jimmysmith // Oct 12, 2015 at 7:57 AM

    Well Ashley is trying to develop talent, and if it was easy everyone would be doing it. It stands to reason then he needs to employ the best people to make it work. It’s not easy to imagine Charnley, Carr and McC etal pulling it off, though that is hard to judge, given it’s a tall order. Maybe in time, but bloody hell, how long might it take.

  • 43 lochinvar // Oct 12, 2015 at 8:05 AM

    Mackems in chaos as Allardyce states he still wants to Manage England – hardly a sign of confidence or commitment to his new job. Linked with Phil Brown as his assistant Manager to create a dream coaching team ! What ? On top of that he wants to sign Tomkins from West Ham before we think about that. All original thinking then.
    Only hope is that their decisions implode along with Villa and one other to give us a chance of avoiding doomsday.

  • 44 Jail for Ashley // Oct 12, 2015 at 8:11 AM

    Jimmy Smith,
    You are one of the most frustrating posters I read on here, “The policy can work but we need to keep our better players”
    What is that supposed to mean, the flawed policy in place us designed to get rid of the best players, the only reason nobody was sold last summer was the near miss last season !

  • 45 jimmysmith // Oct 12, 2015 at 8:20 AM

    Where is the evidence that the policy is “DESIGNED” to get rid of the better players. We have failed to keep our better players because they wanted to go, suggesting we hadn’t done enough to satisfy hem. Surely there is a significant difference.

  • 46 Ravostag // Oct 12, 2015 at 12:36 PM

    I think woodman has the potential to b the best he might get a chance when elliott gets inj as well. At this rate we need about 5 keepers

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