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These Two Players Can Save Newcastle In January

10:06 pm, Tuesday, October 13th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 39 Comments

Newcastle will go all out in the January transfer market and try to get two players we were after in the summer but didn’t bring in – probably because we wouldn’t pay the transfer fees requested by their clubs at that time.

Newcastle will have a decent chance of getting good deals on QPR striker Charlie Austin and Schalke’s center-back Joel Matip simply because their contracts run out at the end of June.

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Joel Matip – Schalke 6′ 4″ center-back

Newcastle definitely balked at the £15M QPR wanted for Austin in the summer but in retrospect we should have brought the 26 year-old in and it’s almost certain we would have scored more than the six goals we have scored in the first eight games – the lowest in the Premier League.

But that’s what happens when you are too thrifty and don’t look at the big picture.

The big pictureis that if we are relegated we will lose out on £135M next season in the Premier League so overpaying say £3M for Austin doesn’t really mean too much if it saves our PL status.

We’re not sure why Newcastle didn’t try harder to get Matip in over the summer, but we suppose once head coach Steve McClaren gave Fabricio Coloccini a one year extension to keep him at the club until the summer of 2017 and kept him on as captain – another top center-back was not required.

But central defense is still a weakness,  with Coloccini so far not being too convincing at the back although new signing 21 year-old Chancel Mbemba has looked good.

To make things worse Steven Taylor picked up a severe hamstring injury that will keep him out of the side until December.

We hope we can get out of the mess we are in by the end of the year.

However, Newcastle should try to bring in some good players in the January window if we are to keep our Premier League status this season.

At the moment that looks somewhat dubious with the team in 20th place in the league table and 6 points from safety after eight games played.

Comments  welcome.



Tags: Newcastle News · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target




39 responses so far ↓

  • 1 jimmysmith // Oct 13, 2015 at 10:15 PM

    Running Newcastle successfully requires both expertise at all levels and money, and plenty of it. How often do new owners come in and implement that right away. Never. If Ashley goes, and I’m not saying he shouldn’t, it will almost certainly be a long, hard road to hoe with absolutely no guarantees along the way. That’s true enough, isn’t it? Ashley’s day of reckoning is coming, but I can’t say I’m thrilled at the prospect of him failing.

  • 2 Charlietoon // Oct 13, 2015 at 10:25 PM

    Mbemba is looking good. Now he just needs a decent partner that every fwd and mid in the league has not already figured out how to beat.

  • 3 GeordieinOhio // Oct 13, 2015 at 10:26 PM

    Jimmy,
    when Abramovich bought Chelski, I think he spent over 100million on new players …I could be wrong tho.

  • 4 jimmysmith // Oct 13, 2015 at 10:37 PM

    Does Ashley own that piece of land independently of Newcastle, now. If he were planning a sale owning that would give him leverage and an opportunity to bump up the price, if a big bankrolled buyer came in with plans to expand. What’s going on there? And yes, what’s going on with the training facility?

  • 5 angelswithdirtyfaces // Oct 13, 2015 at 10:46 PM

    Two players CANNOT save Newcastle in January or any other month

    1) We’ll need a lot more than two players to make enough difference if we’re in the bottom 3 at New Year.

    2) Did Austin save QPR from relegation ? Is he that good ?

    3) Colo is part of the propblem not the solution. We also need FBs and a solid tackling DM if the back 5 (6) are to form anything like an impregnable unit.

    4) Psychologically the team may have already pretty much relegated itself. Any two players will both need PhD’s in counselling to have any impact on a losing mentality

    5) We’ve too many journeymen needing moved on – lack of activity in team building in previous windows means too much needs to be done.

    6) Too many signings have failed to shine – probably 1 in 3 so the bar needs to be a lot higher.

  • 6 OneAlanShearer // Oct 13, 2015 at 10:52 PM

    We need a bare minimum of 4 players more like 6 now. A keeper to challenge Krul when fit…Darlow is not it.
    A centre back to replace saylor who is constantly injured. A centre back to take colo’s place.
    Two fullbacks to challenge Janmaat and upgrade on Haidara.
    A defensive midfield playmaker to replace cabaye still!!
    A striker to replace cisse.

    All this should have happened in the summer.

    People might say it’s not necessary but I guarantee you it is.

    We use to have a decent starting xi that was immediately exposed by a lack of quality in the squad outside of that xi.

    Now we don’t have a decent starting xi so we are starting every match exposed.

    We need leaders on the pitch now.

  • 7 The next Mike Williamson // Oct 13, 2015 at 11:03 PM

    I’d rather a good defensive midfielder than a striker. mitrovic and perez are good but we have no one in midfield that can win the ball, protect the defence, or start up attacks. I’m hoping tiote returns to form, then we can get Carrick or someone beside him. bring Dummett back to add some defensive solidity and things will be a bit tighter at the back.

    personally I’d bring in a tall central defender, 2 defensive midfielders, and a young winger from the championship. sell tiote, Sissoko gouffran obertan williamson cisse

  • 8 jimmysmith // Oct 13, 2015 at 11:05 PM

    They’ll have been looking to reshape the squad incrementally, but six players, whether needed or not, and the right six players, in the January window, is well beyond Carr and Charnley, on previous evidence. Ashley’s claim of making our own luck, obviously hasn’t started yet. We are most likely going to need some from somewhere else this season.

  • 9 Our Toon // Oct 13, 2015 at 11:07 PM

    Williamson

    Carrick is not the answer, I’m a team like man utd he’ll serve a purpose because they have alot of possession but for us he’ll be pants, the lad has no legs whatsoever. Watch the arsenal game again, him and schweignstiger got ripped apart

  • 10 Blofal // Oct 13, 2015 at 11:14 PM

    Cabaye’s replacement is Wijnaldum. He is still adjusting to the premier league but I believe he is a future star for us.

    Mbabu has slotted himself in nicely as backup for Janmaat. We need a LB as Dummett isn’t good enough going forward plus I think will become a CB and Haidara isn’t quite up to scratch yet.

    We do need an upgrade big time in defensive midfield and centre half. Plus a backup striker for Mitrovic. I think Mitrovic (besides the red cards) has adapted much better than expected and is going to be a starter for the rest of the season. We still have Riviere who has all the qualities of a great holding striker if he can find some composure in front of goal. Cisse needs to go though.

  • 11 Our Toon // Oct 13, 2015 at 11:16 PM

    We need a CB, LB and DM, I think the squad has enough about it to stay up and predict we will finish 12th from here on in. To many are panic has set in with some, probably get slated for saying that but I honestly think we have enough about us, as long as we don’t continue getting injuries.

    We were awful against Watford, West ham have started well and beaten Arsenal, Liverpool and Citeh away, the first team in history to do so in 1 season, gave a decent performance against Arsenal after being down to 10 men before 20mins, had the best chances against man utd away, poor 2nd half against chelsea and citeh, drew against a team that beat us last season in Southampton both home and away. Add to that they were miles ahead of us in terms of fitness. Swansea we were poor but again down to 10 men due to ill discipline, overall we’ve played last season’s top 10 barring Watford and a resurgent West ham!!

    It would be a different story if we’d lost to the teams in the lower half of the league

  • 12 jimmysmith // Oct 13, 2015 at 11:41 PM

    Twelfth is on the cards, as is rock bottom. Confidence and determination being so key to holding your own in this league.

  • 13 BandB // Oct 13, 2015 at 11:59 PM

    Tomorrow’s back page of The Sun claims Jonas is suing the Toon for £2m over the way he was treated. I haven’t got a subscription, so I have no idea what case it makes.

  • 14 solano // Oct 14, 2015 at 1:05 AM

    BnB: Whatever the details of Jonas’ claim, I think we have had more than a few hints/rumours of how the club were perceived to have behaved upon finding out about his condition,so it’s no great surprise.
    What will be interesting to see is how the real Super Toon Geordie mega fans turn against Jonas/Judas for challenging Sports Direct’s methods of treating sickness at work.
    I note the £2m claim is the same amount that KK claimed for his unfair dismissal case and many chose to stick to the club’s offiicial line and slag the greatest figure in our recent history…even after they lost in a court of law! I can see Jonas being blamed for threatening our January budget by the sycophants and the pinky wonga people!

  • 15 Toon Tang // Oct 14, 2015 at 1:14 AM

    I hope Jonas gets his money with added bonuses on top as well. Hes got the backing of the whole of Newcastle and further. Ashley can eat a bag of dicks.

  • 16 Toon Tang // Oct 14, 2015 at 1:14 AM

    Would love to see Jonas ruin Cashley

  • 17 Mister Tuff // Oct 14, 2015 at 1:21 AM

    solano – I think if they can get away with it the Club will try to twist this into making Jonas look like he was at fault and as you suggest blame him for whatever.
    Will be very interesting to eventually get some detail into what happened exactly.
    I wouldn’t put it past the beggars to cough up “out of court/tribunal” so we don’t get to hear the fine detail.

  • 18 Mister Tuff // Oct 14, 2015 at 1:30 AM

    Hope this latest Jonas saga will eventually kill off the last remnants of the pro Percy Brigade – and let it dawn upon themselves that King Percy really was a scumbag and all the crap about him being a top man/top man manger is eventually established as a load of hooey.

    Tubbs……………………………………OOT
    Penfold………………………………….OOT
    Wally…………………………………….OOT
    Pops Carr……………………………….OOT
    King Percy acolytes…………………..OOT
    Jib Jibberish…………………………….OOT
    Fool from the Valleys…………………OOT
    Ian Toon (love letter to Percy)……..OOT

  • 19 lesh // Oct 14, 2015 at 1:33 AM

    Geordieinohio

    Abramovich did spend a lot on players but the difference between him and Ashley for example, is that Abramovich is said to have had billions to ‘launder’.

  • 20 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 14, 2015 at 4:05 AM

    On Jonas, im not quite sure of the ins and outs of his case so cannot comment. He was a loyal servant and did well after he returned from illness, i’v alot of respect for the man and did want him given another year. His experience amd determination would of been good for us I think.

    But saying all this, I think it’s important to note he had been going downhill for a while, every Toon blog across the internet was up in arms everytime he started for well over a year when Pardew persisted with him. Im sure Pardew has spoken about this and was quoted as saying it was purely to do with “footballing reasons”.

    Until we find out what the case involves it’s hard to guess really. I do think Jonas was being planned to be sold though before his illness not because of it if that’s the just of it all. He was allowed to come back in and train and win a place back in the side also under Pardew and Carver when he was fit enough. Im sure he started out in the reserves to get his match fitness back and slowly integrated back into the first team which is the way clubs operate after serious injury etc.

    It’s interesting Jonas has went there so he must think he has a case, just have to wait and see.

    As far as I can gather though, from what I’v read, he was aloud to get well back home and then integrated slowly on his return. He has spoken many of times about his treatment and not being offered a new contract. I don’t think the lad was ever going to get a new contract if he was ill or fighting fit I could be wrong but I think the club had already made the decision to not offer him a contract before his illness? He hadn’t been great.

  • 21 Reyantoon // Oct 14, 2015 at 4:33 AM

    Jib
    If you’re out there,i use Idman az to watch toon matches on tv sometimes.However,since mid September,the channel disappeared or changed the unlock key (biss key) for some reason.Do u have any information or idea why the channel get locked?And is it possible to unlock it?

  • 22 Reyantoon // Oct 14, 2015 at 4:38 AM

    Thank u in advance and sorry to forgot the initial greeting as it is early in the mrng 🙂

  • 23 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 14, 2015 at 5:48 AM

    Are there any statistics on how long we can just sit back and soak up the beating before relegation is almost certainly unavoidable?

    …nothing is given I know but stats don’t always lie!

  • 24 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 14, 2015 at 5:56 AM

    My worry is now that Charnley and possibly Carr got their man in McClaren what will happen if it doesn’t work out?

    We more or less know now that due diligence was not done and they only really wanted McClaren (they have their reasons and it doesn’t seem to be football related).

    What will they do if they (the board) have to intervene? What about the biggest culprit of them all…Charnley!

  • 25 Ron Knee // Oct 14, 2015 at 6:16 AM

    Morning jesper

    As a board member, how can McClaren intervene against himself?

    Even if we continue in our woeful way I don’t think Charmless will try to sack McClaren. He’s modelled himself on the tree sloth after all!

  • 26 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 14, 2015 at 6:22 AM

    Morning Ron mate…that’s a really good question isn’t it 😉

  • 27 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 14, 2015 at 6:24 AM

    Ron…so back to my first question. Is their any statistics on how we can take this charade before relegation is inevitable?

  • 28 John Tudor // Oct 14, 2015 at 6:27 AM

    ferkt

  • 29 Ron Knee // Oct 14, 2015 at 6:30 AM

    I suppose there’s a vague resemblance:
    http://www.livescience.com/27612-sloths.html

    Didn’t BandB post some stats yesterday?

  • 30 Ron Knee // Oct 14, 2015 at 6:38 AM

    This is what she posted yesterday:

    “This is the time last season when we suddenly shot up the league, from 18th place on seven points after eight games, to fifth place on 19 points after 12.
    It saved our season.
    The next four games are crucial. Any fewer than seven points before the international break starts and we are likely to be in the bottom three at Christmas.
    This time last year, three of the teams in the bottom four went on to be relegated.”

  • 31 mindshaft // Oct 14, 2015 at 7:39 AM

    buying players in Jan window is extremely difficult so anyone thinking we’re going to revamp the squad is misguided, I would expect one or two in at best
    also difficult for us to have a clear out as players are happy to pick up wages and it’s also unlikely anyone will actually want to buy them

  • 32 BandB // Oct 14, 2015 at 8:07 AM

    lesh

    Sorry I missed you last night. You posted at bath/bedtime, or “Bloodletting” as the hour is known in this house.

    Solano

    As I was drifting off to sleep I was wondering how much hate was heading Jonas’s way and how much of it will come from supporters.
    If he gets to court or tribunal he gets to give his evidence under absolute privilege.

  • 33 martoon // Oct 14, 2015 at 8:22 AM

    BandB – according to news this morning Jonas is suing on the grounds the club discriminated against him because he had to pay is own medical bills. Thus contravening some 2010 act about discriminating against someone on the grounds of mental or physical illness. I’m not sure if he has a case or not?

  • 34 davis_toons // Oct 14, 2015 at 8:22 AM

    Alan Pardew wages is currently top 10. We couldn’t afford him now..haha.

  • 35 martoon // Oct 14, 2015 at 8:25 AM

    On topic I’ve heard the same story from 2 separate sources with ‘friends in the club’ that Charlie Austin is a done deal for January with contracts signed and everything!

  • 36 Jib // Oct 14, 2015 at 8:32 AM

    Reyantoon
    I assume you live outside the UK.
    Since the Summer Idman has been blocked when I try it in Spain , I can only assume it is part of that countrie’s internet policy , it may be the same where you are.
    The match on Sunday is on

    http://www.cdn.com.do/envivo/?p=cdn2

    This is broadcast from the Dominican Republic
    and has the commentary in beautiful Caribbean spanish a bit like having the commentary in English by Shaka Hislop.

  • 37 TroubledToon // Oct 14, 2015 at 9:42 AM

    Ed, last time the 2 saviours were Colo n Mitro!!!

  • 38 lesh // Oct 14, 2015 at 9:43 AM

    When you consider what Jonas’s goal against West Ham was worth to the Club, he was let go with nowt – as far as we know.

    I’d have thought that given the circumstances, he’d have been thanked to such an extent there’s have been no need for him to take legal action – if the report is true.

  • 39 James RS // Oct 14, 2015 at 11:13 PM

    We need a new goalkeeper now too with Tim Krul out for the season. The others we have just aren’t good enough




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