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McClaren – The Loss Of 18-20 Points A Season Is Devastating

4:12 pm, Thursday, October 15th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 103 Comments

Steve McClaren has said in his press conference today that Newcastle will review their goalkeeping position in January and if necessary will bring in another goalkeeper at that time.

It will depend on how Rob Elliot and Karl Darlow perform before then, but the loss of Tim could be huge for Newcastle as McClaren has said today he gets Newcastle 18 to 20 points a season.

rob elliot soton 4-0

Rob Elliot – in goal against Norwich City

It seems like Steve McClaren is still recovering from the shock of losing his number one goalkeeper last Saturday night when Tim was in goal for the Netherlands in Kazakhstan.

This is some of what Steve has said in his press conference today:

“Tim was vital, very important. He will get us 18 to 20 points a season. To lose that is devastating. I think the shock of getting injured is starting to show.”

“We wish him well and we will look after him.” “In the mean time it is for Rob to fill his boots and step up and perform.”  “We could have sent Karl away on loan but we like him and kept him here.”

“I certainly think by January we will know but that’s something we were planning behind-the-scenes anyway. January is now an important window”.

“There’s a lot of work in the background. In one respect, we’re working towards that, but we need to win football matches in the meantime.”

The other news is that McClaren has no intention of recalling 18 year-old Adam Armstrong from his loan spell at Coventry City and that’s understandable.

Much better for Adam to have a full season out on loan and score those goals in League One and build his confidence up.

Then he can return in pre-season next July and challenge for a first team place and hopefully we will still be in the Premier League at that time.

We do expect Newcastle to bring in another striker in January to bolster our goalscoring capabilities and with only six goals scored in eight league games we need more players who can score goals for us.

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103 responses so far ↓

  • 1 ilovetoon8788 // Oct 15, 2015 at 4:22 PM

    Tim gets us 18-20 points?? Biggest load of thrash I heard from mclaren.

  • 2 toonking // Oct 15, 2015 at 4:23 PM

    catchy in norway // Oct 15, 2015 at 2:17 PM

    When they check the history books in 50 years time they will see we got off to a slow start due to the fact the previous management team had turned our whole squad into a bunch of losers , there philosophy was play for a draw, hope for a win, hopefully one of the talented players might do something, if he did do something good he would be punished or even shipped out of the club.

    God forbid

    Catchy you need to go and check the history books, alan Pardew’s first season and a half saw Newcastle get of to a great start. The team who went 4-0 down to arsenal managed to get a draw, something which is now a 99.99…% certain failure.

    Pardew also give Newcastle a European spot when finishing 5th place and that is something we know is now a no hoper.

    You can hate him as much as you like but it’s now as clear as day to see that 90% of that damage was done by an owner, managing directors and a chief scout who during Europa league spend cash on winter time panic buys rather than summer time ambitious players, then insist on a full season of no transfer action what so ever before being forced to spend summer money on gambles 3 of which have proven to be wasted cash.

    Pardew had a couple of poor decisions done during his spell but fact is he’s the best of the rest and by that I mean best of Ashley choice managers

  • 3 toonking // Oct 15, 2015 at 4:28 PM

    He’s just 1 of a group of 5 players who form a poor defence, we were 2 up against Chelsea but were lucky not to lose.

  • 4 Mister Tuff // Oct 15, 2015 at 4:33 PM

    Fail to see the meaning of Wallys statement that Krul gets us all these points. I hope he is not paving the way for some future excuses.
    We have to win on Sunday otherwise we are in serious trouble.

  • 5 beefman13 // Oct 15, 2015 at 4:43 PM

    Mclaren that is such a lame statement about Krul, it just means to me our defense is worse than we all though and that is saying something, you are such a loony tune fella.

  • 6 AncientC // Oct 15, 2015 at 4:44 PM

    “18 to 20 points a season”

    So about half of our points haul for this season, if we improve drastically (without Krul) over the next 30 games.

    I haven’t been critical of McClaren’s statements yet, but what is going on there…

    It’s not an odd thing to say, it’s just plain old stupid – which does not inspire much faith.

    My only guess is that he heard Ferguson say the same thing about Schmeichel and thought it would sound smart.

  • 7 Toon Tang // Oct 15, 2015 at 4:54 PM

    Hahaaa yes. So Stevie is basically saying we should only expect around 20 points now that Timothy is out for the season.

    Doomed I tells ya…

  • 8 Tsunki // Oct 15, 2015 at 4:55 PM

    Cue Sherlock.

  • 9 Toon Tang // Oct 15, 2015 at 4:59 PM

    Whats the often talked about magic points total for staying up?? Is is 40? I’m sure one season a team went down with over 40 so we’d best pull our chuffing socks up like and start plowing.

    Its gonna be a long awld season eh

  • 10 Blackley and Brownlie // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:00 PM

    18 to 20 points a season? What’s his yardstick? As against playing with ten men with no goalkeeper? How on earth does he come up with that figure? If John Carver had said that …

  • 11 sparky55 // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:03 PM

    The Gimp is already making excuses…he’s pathetic and doing his best to buy time. I hope Ashley does the right thing and gets shot of Maclaren sooner rather than later.

    Every club bar one who had the balls to change their manager last season saw that team to safety…there’s a clue there somewhere especially when you have such a sh!te manager in place who is soooooooooooo good he broke the only record our last sh!te manager didn’t.

    Time to invest in a good manager just for a change.

  • 12 Toon Tang // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:05 PM

    We’re nearly a quarter of the way through the season and have 3 points on the board, so by my unique mathematics approaches that means we will only have around 12 (to 15) points by seasons end.

    Nothing looks like changing. We really desperately need to win by any means on sat eh. Dirty tactics, bungs, reverse crimbo tree formations etc etc just get a win on the slab

  • 13 Toon Tang // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:08 PM

    *Sunday sorry

  • 14 hibbitt // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:09 PM

    i think that could be the most ridiculous statement any nufc manager has ever made

  • 15 SUTTY1978 // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:12 PM

    WTF is McClaren on about? In his world Tim has already gained us four points on his own in the first 1/5th of the season. What’s that you say, we only have three points, how the hell did that happen?

  • 16 catchy in norway // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:20 PM


    sorry mate, your sniffing some sort of glue, you have distorted your facts a little, i will not argue that p45 finished 5th, its in the history books, what the history books will not tell you is how lucky we were in that season,
    1 chelsea and liverpool both had really shocking seasons , both would have normally both finished above us.
    2 we played in games that season and won and i was scratching my head, we would score early and hang on for 70 mins just defending.
    you mention the 4-4, i also remember the 7-3 where he said no more and tried to shut up shop at 3-3 and it went very wrong,
    i remember 2 separate seasons where we went on runs of 20+ games not winning a single game.

    the guy was an absolute joke,

    your probably looking at the results of palace and wishing we still had him, well i am glad he left, i have watched them 2 times, they won both games, but i was left wondering how in both, they were battered in both games, the game vs city, was one of those games where city had 75% possession 20+ shots, and only score 1, palace have 3 shots and score 2, pure luck. i watched one interview with warnock and they said to him they still using your corner kick routine , warnock said yes,

    i firmly believe we will finish above them this season.

  • 17 Munster Mag // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:23 PM

    I’m sorry, but SMC has just confirmed himself as an excuse making waste of space. Get rid, please, its just not acceptable. And yes, I would now go so far as to have Pardew back, assuming he was allowed by the big strikers and fast wingers and big centre half that he wanted. For SMC to come out with this, its just ridiculous. Get rid of him Ashley.

  • 18 Tsunki // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:24 PM

    I’m sure we won’t have to wait long before bloggers, whose wisdom far outstrips our collective meagre wit, kind adjustable our thinking to the correct optimistic view. Ok so we’re bottom of of table, ok so the injuries to key personnel are upsetting, ok so the senior players aren’t really putting their money’s worth into games, just get a grip people! It could be worse. 😐
    Let’s not get this continously losing to every other team all blown out of proportion eh?

  • 19 hibbitt // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:25 PM

    blackie…..if carver had come out with that load of bull he would be hanging from the city walls …….Mc’s getting away very easy i just don’t know why its still the same old crap were being served and now its verbal diarrhoea

  • 20 Jail for Ashley // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:29 PM

    Aye it sounds ok saying that if you’re get 80+ points a season but when you’ve averaged what we have over the last few seasons then he’s basically saying Krul is responsible for half our points ?

  • 21 Jail for Ashley // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:33 PM

    I see the sensationalists Niall and Biffa are at it again. Might not be a load of made up old bollocx after all.
    Jonas to sue – report

    It’s widely reported that ex-Newcastle player Jonas Gutierrez has launched a legal challenge over what he believes was discrimination on the part of the Magpies following his testicular cancer diagnosis.

    Now playing in Spain for Deportivo La Coruna, the 32 year-old is said to be pursuing a claim for damages (estimated at £2m) under 2010 Equality legislation.

    That was designed to combat unfair treatment of any worker receiving adverse treatment from their employee because of physical or mental impairment.

    PS: The BBC’s coverage of this story claims that a tribunal is scheduled to take place next March.

  • 22 Toon Tang // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:34 PM

    Which in turn means our points haul for this season will sit at around the 20ish mark if that.

    Lets be honest people, can anyone see us getting 40 points this season?

  • 23 toon kk // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:42 PM

    Eighteen / twenty points? Bull sh.t
    we’re only on three now, we’ll go down who ever our goalie is, the team’s to weak.

  • 24 GeordieTwo // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    It’s impossible to put a point total on Krul alone. So far his goalkeeping alone hasn’t won us any games this season. It’s nonsense. Definitely looks like McLaren is ready to throw in the towel. Gutless comment from him.

  • 25 Jail for Ashley // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    You think we’ll finish above Palace, you’d get 100-1 at the bookies for that right now

  • 26 GeordieTwo // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:45 PM

    Elliot is a decent keeper. Give him a chance McLaren you muppet.

  • 27 toon kk // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:46 PM

    Well go down with around 17 points, we’re the worst team in the premier league by some margin. In a word, useless!

  • 28 Jail for Ashley // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:51 PM

    I don’t think we’re the worst team at all, we have a poor manager hired by a team that the obvious lack of ambition has filtered into an already fragile mercenary squad.

  • 29 Tsunki // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:55 PM

    I wonder if elgalgo’s decision to sue was spurred on by the lack of any chance of a testimonial. That word doesn’t look good in context, on reflection.

  • 30 toon kk // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:57 PM

    get real we’ve been a disgrace to the black and white shirt for a long time, fans like to see potential but it doesn’t exist in our squad, most are no more than championship quality. Look at the table, it doesn’t lie

  • 31 Jail for Ashley // Oct 15, 2015 at 5:58 PM

    Shola never got a testimonial, I wonder if he’d have been embarrassed about the turn out after Shearers and Stevie Harpers

  • 32 GeordieTwo // Oct 15, 2015 at 6:09 PM

    It’s make or break for Steve over the next couple of months. If we go into December with less than a dozen points we have no chance at all. If we have 15-18 points it’s very dodgy indeed. Anything more than that would be a miracle.

  • 33 toon kk // Oct 15, 2015 at 6:11 PM

    Two major concerns is our work rate is dreadful along our fitness levels.
    A poor squad can grind results by hard work, but come the second half, we might as well stop in the dressing room and have a cup of tea..

  • 34 GeordieTwo // Oct 15, 2015 at 6:12 PM

    A lot of you have been very abusive to the owner, one Mike Ashley for years now. I, on the other hand have been very patient, kind and considerate. I’ll give just one example. At one point a couple of seasons ago I told Markaccus “look mate, we’ve got to be kind and considerate to this big, fat donkey.” Of course Markaccus just wasn’t interested in that. Harrumph.

  • 35 GeordieTwo // Oct 15, 2015 at 6:18 PM

    I can see you lot are processing what I’m saying. Certainly the owner isn’t worth tuppence, knows nothing aboot football, and I hate the look of his smarmy face. But we’ve got to give him the respect he’s due mates! Now come on, support and respect wor big fat donkey!!!!

  • 36 Mag52 // Oct 15, 2015 at 6:22 PM


    You’ve come out with some odd statements from time to time, but the idea that we will finish the season above Palace must rate as one of the oddest.

  • 37 GeordieTwo // Oct 15, 2015 at 6:24 PM

    Catchy mate, what gives you the idea, based on our current performances that we will finish ahead of Palace? Is it something about the club we don’t understand? Is it the big, fat donkey at the top? Does he have a secret master plan that we don’t know about but you do?

  • 38 GeordieTwo // Oct 15, 2015 at 6:29 PM

    The Donkey!
    The Donkey!
    The Big Fat Donkey!
    Mike Ashley is the Donkey!
    The Big Fat Donkey!
    To be chanted when we go behind against Norwich.

  • 39 lesh // Oct 15, 2015 at 6:31 PM

    If Krul’s worth so many points to us a season, what does that say for our outfield defenders given the number of goals we’ve shipped over the years.

  • 40 Munster Mag // Oct 15, 2015 at 6:32 PM

    I think we can have a bet now Catchy as lots of people seem to want it. Your old nemesis Pardew v Schteve . You say Palace will end up below us because Pardew is crap? Wrong mate, and wrong again. Pardew isnt crap at all, and Palace will be top 10, well ahead of us. Can we bet a cyber pint on it? I have spoken to two knowledgeable Palace fans and your analysis is flawed about City etc. They are happy wiuth his approach – it must be nice beating Chelsea all the time. Not bad for a so called useless manager – who was due to get Palace RELEGATED last season according to many on this site. my arse. Get a decent more like , and let him buy the players he wants, not the ones that will give Ashley a profit ( mind u I could take a few more Perez’s ) .

  • 41 Munster Mag // Oct 15, 2015 at 6:34 PM

    Steve – what an excuse meister and spin merchant. Classic nonsense out of him.

  • 42 toonking // Oct 15, 2015 at 6:35 PM


    Chelsea yeh but Liverpool no because as a matter of fact recent seasons have shown Liverpool are a team who’s continuously showing form more like that of a team 6-10th the only time they hadn’t was during the suarz days which in Pardew teams would be like saying “they were lucky more than decent because suaez was playing”.

    When you use luck as a reason behind that 5th place what can also be brought into account is the following season was jam packed with very back luck because Newcastle united had an injury list almost double that of wigan (next worse) so back luck rather than bad form.

    Finally that third full season in charge looked like n wful season to some but it wasn’t as season as you think and 10th place was a generally expected position most would see. We didn’t have that luck of a poor Chelsea and Liverpool therefore 1-6th would be removed, our own team itself had now became a weaker team than it originally had due to no transfer brought in other than a one who played for himself, it also saw it’s second main player from that 5th place team sold and you’ve also got the fact we had a previous window of panic buyers like gouffran and then of course we see that season’s window bring injury prone dejong a French hesky and a slow cabbella.

  • 43 lesh // Oct 15, 2015 at 6:37 PM


    Thanks for posting the link to Jonas’s remuneration details.

    It might help alleviate the flak you get if, when you post such information, you at least allude to the fact that it’s from a web-based source, and reported by you.

    At least then you shouldn’t be subjected to other posters questioning you rather than the source of the ‘facts’.

  • 44 toonking // Oct 15, 2015 at 6:43 PM


    I just noticed the last bit where you firmly believe we’ll finish above them.

    If you are that certainly i’ll bet you £100 donation that the END of this season will see us FINISH BELOW palace

    the WINNER CHOOSES the CHARITY which the losing player will be donating too and I “unlike toonbrother” will most certainly keep to my words

  • 45 Our Toon // Oct 15, 2015 at 6:43 PM


    Do you have a hard on for pardew mate? If you love the bloke so much go support palace. Don’t forget pardew had us flying high in his first full season after coming in half way through to replace CH, the issue with pardew is what happens after that. The bloke wanted a say in transfers yet all his main targets were former toon players and colo.

    Out of all his signings only cabaye has played all the games, the rest of his starting XI were already there before he joined, Zaha has had a public dressing down for not tracking back, see how long he keeps performing for if that continues, palace will look completely different in 12 mths time, Bolasie will go they’ll make changes and for the worse.

    We know the man’s history here, it’s similar to his history at all clubs, starts very well….believes his own hype and then the wheels come off big time. In 12 months if he’s still doing well then you can say I told you so!!

  • 46 Our Toon // Oct 15, 2015 at 6:45 PM

    Krul wouldn’t save us 18 or 20 points, it’s an exaggerated statement to show how crucial mcclaren thinks he is, a moral booster for a lad that’s out all season and a benchmark for those coming in to replace!!

  • 47 sing in the corner // Oct 15, 2015 at 6:59 PM

    I can only infer from SMs comment that he had a long large lunch washed down with too many sherries. Incredibly crass! Defend it somebody?

  • 48 John Tudor // Oct 15, 2015 at 7:01 PM

    complete utter disgraceful statement made by a has been that never was

  • 49 Jail for Ashley // Oct 15, 2015 at 7:19 PM

    “Turning our attentions to the goalkeeping situation and the expected return of Rob Elliot between the posts could give the away team a goalscoring boost.

    Although the Ireland international had kept Chelsea at bay when injury prevented him from continuing at SJP last December, Rob had failed to keep a clean sheet in any of his previous five Premier League outings.

    More worryingly, Elliot has failed to post a 90 minute shutout in his five full Premier League appearances on Tyneside, conceding 16 goals in the process.”

  • 50 Jail for Ashley // Oct 15, 2015 at 7:25 PM

    So he’s averaged 3.2 goals a game OMG

  • 51 optimistic prime // Oct 15, 2015 at 7:33 PM

    Just saw Mclaren in the telly.
    Talking about how he’d said next 3 windows would be crucial.

    He said he’d be looking at the keeper situation and at other positions for the team in January..

    I’ve been wanting to know If they intended to spend in jan, really looking foward to seeing if Mclaren has any say or we end up with the same prospects.

    Wonder if we’ll we get a win by then.

  • 52 Jail for Ashley // Oct 15, 2015 at 7:38 PM

    If there is money to spend why the fcuk wasn’t it spent on a CB in the summer, simples ! If we were doing ok ish it wasn’t going to be spent, nothing has changed at all !

  • 53 toon22 // Oct 15, 2015 at 7:57 PM

    What are the odds for SMC ending up as the new Holland coach ??

  • 54 Jail for Ashley // Oct 15, 2015 at 8:06 PM

    About the same as him finishing above Palace !

  • 55 Mister Tuff // Oct 15, 2015 at 8:10 PM

    There is no way we’ll finish above Palace this season.
    Munster – this is not a rallying call to get King Percy back.

  • 56 hibbitt // Oct 15, 2015 at 8:19 PM

    not sure there’s anyway we will finish in the prem never mind above palace this season the next 3 games will be key

  • 57 angelswithdirtyfaces // Oct 15, 2015 at 8:37 PM


    The two sources of ‘webfacts’ for Jonas’s income don’t tally with E140k difference annually at today’s exchange rate. I suppose there is bound to be speculation of varying degrees in this kind of figure and hence a margin of error. The difference between the figures is about 20%

    How do you make Jonas aggregate salary at Toon as $18m ?
    That’s £11.63m (ish). Presumably a career total, and over how many years ?

  • 58 optimistic prime // Oct 15, 2015 at 8:58 PM


    Didn’t you see jibs post a week or so ago?

    Apparentley the CB got injured so we gave Colo a new contract instead.

    That must be it.

  • 59 Jail for Ashley // Oct 15, 2015 at 9:09 PM

    I think a new CB wasn’t bought because there was not another one available that fitted our rigid criteria so therefore cheaper to give Collo an extended deal even though the bigger picture will end up costing them hundreds of millions for not getting rid of our mop haired shirker.

  • 60 Graeme // Oct 15, 2015 at 9:14 PM

    Jail, Collo being the Cheapest, easiest option was stated in the Chronicle last week, or the week before. Doesn’t make it true, but it was reported!!

  • 61 Graeme // Oct 15, 2015 at 9:15 PM

    Have faith chaps – we have already won TWO games at SJP in 2015 – there is no reason we cant make that three!! We’re on a roll!!!

  • 62 martoon // Oct 15, 2015 at 9:20 PM

    I suppose if you think about it a goalkeeper in most matches makes a few saves which prevent goals and therefore if they didn’t a team would lose matches that they actually win or draw. So therefore you could argue Tim Krul (as well as all other goalkeepers) does earn the team as least 20 points a season so McClaren was right (just joking 🙂 ).

  • 63 Toon Tang // Oct 15, 2015 at 9:26 PM

    Where’s dennis twice? We could all do with a motivational kick in the bollocks

  • 64 Blackley and Brownlie // Oct 15, 2015 at 9:29 PM

    The first eight games have been a kind of extended pre-season.

    Hahaha. If John Carver had said that …

    And old Blackley was described as a dinosaur for suggesting they should’ve been working in pre-season on their fitness until they were sick.

  • 65 Toon Tang // Oct 15, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    Stick dennis in the dresser at HT and watch the lazy bastard team pile out ravenous as don goodmans kids on crimbo day

  • 66 Our Toon // Oct 15, 2015 at 9:36 PM


    Don’t think it mattered how they trained, the biggest issue was that the starting XI didn’t even play in preseason, Colo and didn’t play with mbemba at all, mitrovic didn’t have much of a kick

    Most of the lads used were reserve players, that’s been the biggest issue, add to that we bought players late rather than early in the window, amd we let go of certain players without replacing them!!

  • 67 bladeuser // Oct 15, 2015 at 9:43 PM

    Said it from day one SMC is a clown who before u know it will have taken us down the time to get rid is now before it is to late

  • 68 Tsunki // Oct 15, 2015 at 9:59 PM

    Turn that frown upside down, everyone! In fact if you turn the table upside down, we’re TOP! Stop being do glass half empty. We’re rebuilding, doncha know? And sometimes it all starts with digging down, and down. And down. And when you’ve sunk as low as you possibly can, you fill the hole you’ve dug yourself with concrete. Then you throw ambition into it. Then pile a load of old bolocks over it to cover it all up.

  • 69 optimistic prime // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:02 PM

    What’s the price for 5-0 the toon Sunday?

  • 70 Tsunki // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:03 PM

    And then you brick it. Very important that part. Steves got the mastery over that part alright.

  • 71 Tsunki // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:04 PM

    Seriously, it’s time for a season defining slaughter of the Canaries. G2! We’re talking Canaricide here! You’re the man on point for this!

  • 72 jimmysmith // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:05 PM

    He’s not saying without him we’d be 18-20 points worse off. He’s saying a top keeper wins you plenty of points. Clough said the same of Shilton. Ferguson of Schmeichel etc.

  • 73 Tsunki // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:07 PM

    I hope when Steves building his metaphorical wall he pays attention to what Lee shoves into his cavity.

  • 74 Tsunki // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:08 PM

    Jimmy as in no keeper at all doesn’t win any points?

  • 75 jimmysmith // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:15 PM

    As in an inadequate keeper wins you few or no points at all. I suppose he’s pointing out how important a top keeper is and specifically how important Krul to us, and possibly to spell out whats required to Eliot and Darlow.

  • 76 BandB // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:21 PM

    With our football sadly in the doldrums, it’s nice to know the old “What The ****’* He On About? game is still in full vigour at this great club of ours.

  • 77 optimistic prime // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:26 PM

    Letter to fans from Charnley

  • 78 jimmysmith // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:29 PM

    Yeah, Cloughie certainly put it better, and in better circumstances. But it may well be true. He pulls off some remarkable saves.

  • 79 BandB // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:32 PM

    “He’s just trapped that ball further than I could kick!” was my all -time Cloughie fave.

  • 80 sing in the corner // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:33 PM


    Ha ha I must be tired, actually got a couple of sentences in before I twigged…

  • 81 BandB // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:33 PM

    kick it!”

  • 82 Tsunki // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:40 PM

    …and when we get to putting the floor in our new ReBuilding, it’s time we got the planks in. And we’ve done a great job I think everyone will agree! By Jan Jan sure what will have all the fresh planks nailed on.

  • 83 Tsunki // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:42 PM

    This phone is just waiting to kill me. Get in the queue I say 🙂

  • 84 Toon Tang // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:46 PM

    I’ve had a flick through our next batch of fixtures and reckon we could pull at least 2 draws out the bag.

    Norwich draw, Scumderland defeat, Stoke scrappy draw, Bournemouth will ravage us, Leicester will ravage us and Palace will ravage us.

    That selection of 3 fixtures – Bournemouth, Leicester and palace are the most ball-achey because them 3 teams have everything we cant deal with – pace and balls man

  • 85 geordie157 // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:51 PM

    Wonder if Marveaux will get back in the match day squads or not, he’s one of a few that can create chances for Ayoze and Mitrovic.

  • 86 Toon Tang // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:51 PM

    I’ve read back my last verse and it doesnt sound too hopeful or that I have much faith in the lads

  • 87 GeordieinOhio // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:52 PM

    Was this the last Fans Forum meeting?

  • 88 Toon Tang // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:53 PM

    157, a decent bit of service to them 2 up top and I reckon they will fire. Good little and large double act if you ask me.

  • 89 Toon Tang // Oct 15, 2015 at 10:59 PM

    Jan and Feb are gonna be very interesting, got some heavyweight fixtures in that batch. Will see us into the new year with a bang. I wonder what contingency plan we have in place?

  • 90 Online Guy // Oct 15, 2015 at 11:00 PM

    Has there been any fights on here today ..?

    I don’t pop in to read about Footie nowadays ..there is no Footie worth getting into or bothered about .

    .I’m more innerested ..(misspelt but that’s how I spell it) (I dont spell it interesting) .. in the fight’s

    I only pop in to see how the latest bout is going between Mister Tuff And the Odious Jib.

    I enjoy the interjections from the sides …BandB…Et al .

    Mind I am not keen on Jib’s Platitudes, those wrote as if they were fresh or profound

    Jib, you are without doubt, and can be termed to be, a propagandist… and a Knacker.

    hO hO !!

  • 91 jimmysmith // Oct 15, 2015 at 11:00 PM

    Marv needs to take a leaf out Obertans book. Both are apparently lacking, in almost opposite ways, but you’d think Marv could actually make changes and be a part of it. least run about a bit when the opposition has the ball. It’s the EPL pal, you’ve got no hope if you won’t do it.

  • 92 Toon Tang // Oct 15, 2015 at 11:10 PM

    We should start summat now OG and maybe draw some others in to it.

  • 93 BandB // Oct 15, 2015 at 11:17 PM

    We should remember that we still have the ace that is Steve Black up our sleeves.
    QPR were bottom of the league with four points after eight games last year.
    And they’re not now.

  • 94 Tsunki // Oct 15, 2015 at 11:31 PM

    The Dream Team are working on it though. The only way is up. Oh and down. That the other only way I forgot about.

  • 95 Munster Mag // Oct 15, 2015 at 11:45 PM

    Our toon u and others misunderstand my opinion on pardew. I think he is a middling manager but was vilified unfairly here. Remember, many were saying palace were going down last season when he went there. They were all wrong and look like fools to the media that geordies always fawn after. Yes we look like muppets now. I dont want him back and dont want to see palace do well believe it or not. As for his management of zaha…last time i saw him he was tearing some left back apart. Seemed to be doing fine under your old mate. As for steve,, i think we have a bluffer.

  • 96 Munster Mag // Oct 15, 2015 at 11:49 PM

    A big issue re smc and pardew is carrs dominance in the club and of course ashleys approach to buying young. I have a feeling this is going to change because ashley will have little choice. Smc might have a chance if he brings in his own players and dumps the softies we have.but he does seem like a bluffer to me…

  • 97 BandB // Oct 15, 2015 at 11:50 PM


    I think McClaren may well bend under the pressure more than Pardew. He already looks and sounds a bit ragged.
    Pardew had a steely self-regard that makes McClaren look soft.
    Alan was always uppermost in his own mind.

  • 98 Munster Mag // Oct 15, 2015 at 11:51 PM

    Marv…another classic carr choice.

  • 99 Blackley and Brownlie // Oct 16, 2015 at 12:05 AM

    Hahaha. Krul, Shilton, Schmeichel.

  • 100 Blackley and Brownlie // Oct 16, 2015 at 12:06 AM

    You kill me Greavesie.

  • 101 Mister Tuff // Oct 16, 2015 at 12:10 AM

    OG – evening. Not really anything much happening on the football front due to the break.
    Have you been playing anywhere interesting recently.
    Have you heard of a French band called Chico and the Gypsies. (Latin -rock/pop).

  • 102 Blackley and Brownlie // Oct 16, 2015 at 12:39 AM

    It matters how the team trains. You can’t use your first eight games as your pre-season, as a grinning Makro, the man who doesnt look at the league table, seems to believe.

    But, if they’re not even training, or playing games, what chance? Players who should’ve been flogged got the opportunities for match fitness while the man who didn’t turn up got the captaincy.

    Yet, swallowing all the “great coach” hype, the sky blue optimists were praising Makro for having the lads working with the ball as opposed to doing the hard slog. It’s modern. It’s progressive. No it’s not. It’s bollocks. And to date it’s proved to be nothing but a shambles.

    And still the same discerning fans would have us believe we are seeing a new and refreshing Makro brand of football and before long it will all come together. All the signs are there that the football is improving, and it’s no surprise that duffers like Blackley can’t see it.

    It’s just a pity we’ve lost our top goalkeeper, the heir to Shilton and Schmeichel? Hahaha. You couldn’t make it up.

  • 103 Blackley and Brownlie // Oct 16, 2015 at 12:48 AM

    Carr likes to boast that he does his homework on the players he brings in. He never scored higher than a D minus for his homework but he doesn’t tell you that.

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