McClaren – The Loss Of 18-20 Points A Season Is Devastating

Steve McClaren has said in his press conference today that Newcastle will review their goalkeeping position in January and if necessary will bring in another goalkeeper at that time.

It will depend on how Rob Elliot and Karl Darlow perform before then, but the loss of Tim could be huge for Newcastle as McClaren has said today he gets Newcastle 18 to 20 points a season.

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Rob Elliot – in goal against Norwich City

It seems like Steve McClaren is still recovering from the shock of losing his number one goalkeeper last Saturday night when Tim was in goal for the Netherlands in Kazakhstan.

This is some of what Steve has said in his press conference today:

“Tim was vital, very important. He will get us 18 to 20 points a season. To lose that is devastating. I think the shock of getting injured is starting to show.”

“We wish him well and we will look after him.” “In the mean time it is for Rob to fill his boots and step up and perform.”  “We could have sent Karl away on loan but we like him and kept him here.”

“I certainly think by January we will know but that’s something we were planning behind-the-scenes anyway. January is now an important window”.

“There’s a lot of work in the background. In one respect, we’re working towards that, but we need to win football matches in the meantime.”

The other news is that McClaren has no intention of recalling 18 year-old Adam Armstrong from his loan spell at Coventry City and that’s understandable.

Much better for Adam to have a full season out on loan and score those goals in League One and build his confidence up.

Then he can return in pre-season next July and challenge for a first team place and hopefully we will still be in the Premier League at that time.

We do expect Newcastle to bring in another striker in January to bolster our goalscoring capabilities and with only six goals scored in eight league games we need more players who can score goals for us.

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103 comments so far

  • ilovetoon8788

    Oct 15, 2015 at 4:22 PM

    Comment #1

    Tim gets us 18-20 points?? Biggest load of thrash I heard from mclaren.

  • toonking

    Oct 15, 2015 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #2

    catchy in norway // Oct 15, 2015 at 2:17 PM

    When they check the history books in 50 years time they will see we got off to a slow start due to the fact the previous management team had turned our whole squad into a bunch of losers , there philosophy was play for a draw, hope for a win, hopefully one of the talented players might do something, if he did do something good he would be punished or even shipped out of the club.

    God forbid

    Catchy you need to go and check the history books, alan Pardew’s first season and a half saw Newcastle get of to a great start. The team who went 4-0 down to arsenal managed to get a draw, something which is now a 99.99…% certain failure.

    Pardew also give Newcastle a European spot when finishing 5th place and that is something we know is now a no hoper.

    You can hate him as much as you like but it’s now as clear as day to see that 90% of that damage was done by an owner, managing directors and a chief scout who during Europa league spend cash on winter time panic buys rather than summer time ambitious players, then insist on a full season of no transfer action what so ever before being forced to spend summer money on gambles 3 of which have proven to be wasted cash.

    Pardew had a couple of poor decisions done during his spell but fact is he’s the best of the rest and by that I mean best of Ashley choice managers

  • toonking

    Oct 15, 2015 at 4:28 PM

    Comment #3

    He’s just 1 of a group of 5 players who form a poor defence, we were 2 up against Chelsea but were lucky not to lose.

  • Mister Tuff

    Oct 15, 2015 at 4:33 PM

    Comment #4

    Fail to see the meaning of Wallys statement that Krul gets us all these points. I hope he is not paving the way for some future excuses.
    We have to win on Sunday otherwise we are in serious trouble.

  • beefman13

    Oct 15, 2015 at 4:43 PM

    Comment #5

    Mclaren that is such a lame statement about Krul, it just means to me our defense is worse than we all though and that is saying something, you are such a loony tune fella.

  • AncientC

    Oct 15, 2015 at 4:44 PM

    Comment #6

    “18 to 20 points a season”

    So about half of our points haul for this season, if we improve drastically (without Krul) over the next 30 games.

    I haven’t been critical of McClaren’s statements yet, but what is going on there…

    It’s not an odd thing to say, it’s just plain old stupid – which does not inspire much faith.

    My only guess is that he heard Ferguson say the same thing about Schmeichel and thought it would sound smart.

  • Toon Tang

    Oct 15, 2015 at 4:54 PM

    Comment #7

    Hahaaa yes. So Stevie is basically saying we should only expect around 20 points now that Timothy is out for the season.

    Doomed I tells ya…

  • Tsunki

    Oct 15, 2015 at 4:55 PM

    Comment #8

    Cue Sherlock.

  • Toon Tang

    Oct 15, 2015 at 4:59 PM

    Comment #9

    Whats the often talked about magic points total for staying up?? Is is 40? I’m sure one season a team went down with over 40 so we’d best pull our chuffing socks up like and start plowing.

    Its gonna be a long awld season eh

  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:00 PM

    Comment #10

    18 to 20 points a season? What’s his yardstick? As against playing with ten men with no goalkeeper? How on earth does he come up with that figure? If John Carver had said that …

  • sparky55

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:03 PM

    Comment #11

    The Gimp is already making excuses…he’s pathetic and doing his best to buy time. I hope Ashley does the right thing and gets shot of Maclaren sooner rather than later.

    Every club bar one who had the balls to change their manager last season saw that team to safety…there’s a clue there somewhere especially when you have such a sh!te manager in place who is soooooooooooo good he broke the only record our last sh!te manager didn’t.

    Time to invest in a good manager just for a change.

  • Toon Tang

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:05 PM

    Comment #12

    We’re nearly a quarter of the way through the season and have 3 points on the board, so by my unique mathematics approaches that means we will only have around 12 (to 15) points by seasons end.

    Nothing looks like changing. We really desperately need to win by any means on sat eh. Dirty tactics, bungs, reverse crimbo tree formations etc etc just get a win on the slab

  • Toon Tang

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:08 PM

    Comment #13

    *Sunday sorry

  • hibbitt

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:09 PM

    Comment #14

    i think that could be the most ridiculous statement any nufc manager has ever made

  • SUTTY1978

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #15

    WTF is McClaren on about? In his world Tim has already gained us four points on his own in the first 1/5th of the season. What’s that you say, we only have three points, how the hell did that happen?

  • catchy in norway

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #16


    sorry mate, your sniffing some sort of glue, you have distorted your facts a little, i will not argue that p45 finished 5th, its in the history books, what the history books will not tell you is how lucky we were in that season,
    1 chelsea and liverpool both had really shocking seasons , both would have normally both finished above us.
    2 we played in games that season and won and i was scratching my head, we would score early and hang on for 70 mins just defending.
    you mention the 4-4, i also remember the 7-3 where he said no more and tried to shut up shop at 3-3 and it went very wrong,
    i remember 2 separate seasons where we went on runs of 20+ games not winning a single game.

    the guy was an absolute joke,

    your probably looking at the results of palace and wishing we still had him, well i am glad he left, i have watched them 2 times, they won both games, but i was left wondering how in both, they were battered in both games, the game vs city, was one of those games where city had 75% possession 20+ shots, and only score 1, palace have 3 shots and score 2, pure luck. i watched one interview with warnock and they said to him they still using your corner kick routine , warnock said yes,

    i firmly believe we will finish above them this season.

  • Munster Mag

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:23 PM

    Comment #17

    I’m sorry, but SMC has just confirmed himself as an excuse making waste of space. Get rid, please, its just not acceptable. And yes, I would now go so far as to have Pardew back, assuming he was allowed by the big strikers and fast wingers and big centre half that he wanted. For SMC to come out with this, its just ridiculous. Get rid of him Ashley.

  • Tsunki

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:24 PM

    Comment #18

    I’m sure we won’t have to wait long before bloggers, whose wisdom far outstrips our collective meagre wit, kind adjustable our thinking to the correct optimistic view. Ok so we’re bottom of of table, ok so the injuries to key personnel are upsetting, ok so the senior players aren’t really putting their money’s worth into games, just get a grip people! It could be worse. 😐
    Let’s not get this continously losing to every other team all blown out of proportion eh?

  • hibbitt

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:25 PM

    Comment #19

    blackie…..if carver had come out with that load of bull he would be hanging from the city walls …….Mc’s getting away very easy i just don’t know why its still the same old crap were being served and now its verbal diarrhoea

  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:29 PM

    Comment #20

    Aye it sounds ok saying that if you’re get 80+ points a season but when you’ve averaged what we have over the last few seasons then he’s basically saying Krul is responsible for half our points ?

  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:33 PM

    Comment #21

    I see the sensationalists Niall and Biffa are at it again. Might not be a load of made up old bollocx after all.
    Jonas to sue – report

    It’s widely reported that ex-Newcastle player Jonas Gutierrez has launched a legal challenge over what he believes was discrimination on the part of the Magpies following his testicular cancer diagnosis.

    Now playing in Spain for Deportivo La Coruna, the 32 year-old is said to be pursuing a claim for damages (estimated at £2m) under 2010 Equality legislation.

    That was designed to combat unfair treatment of any worker receiving adverse treatment from their employee because of physical or mental impairment.

    PS: The BBC’s coverage of this story claims that a tribunal is scheduled to take place next March.

  • Toon Tang

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:34 PM

    Comment #22

    Which in turn means our points haul for this season will sit at around the 20ish mark if that.

    Lets be honest people, can anyone see us getting 40 points this season?

  • toon kk

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:42 PM

    Comment #23

    Eighteen / twenty points? Bull sh.t
    we’re only on three now, we’ll go down who ever our goalie is, the team’s to weak.

  • GeordieTwo

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #24

    It’s impossible to put a point total on Krul alone. So far his goalkeeping alone hasn’t won us any games this season. It’s nonsense. Definitely looks like McLaren is ready to throw in the towel. Gutless comment from him.

  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #25

    You think we’ll finish above Palace, you’d get 100-1 at the bookies for that right now

  • GeordieTwo

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #26

    Elliot is a decent keeper. Give him a chance McLaren you muppet.

  • toon kk

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:46 PM

    Comment #27

    Well go down with around 17 points, we’re the worst team in the premier league by some margin. In a word, useless!

  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:51 PM

    Comment #28

    I don’t think we’re the worst team at all, we have a poor manager hired by a team that the obvious lack of ambition has filtered into an already fragile mercenary squad.

  • Tsunki

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:55 PM

    Comment #29

    I wonder if elgalgo’s decision to sue was spurred on by the lack of any chance of a testimonial. That word doesn’t look good in context, on reflection.

  • toon kk

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:57 PM

    Comment #30

    get real we’ve been a disgrace to the black and white shirt for a long time, fans like to see potential but it doesn’t exist in our squad, most are no more than championship quality. Look at the table, it doesn’t lie

  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 15, 2015 at 5:58 PM

    Comment #31

    Shola never got a testimonial, I wonder if he’d have been embarrassed about the turn out after Shearers and Stevie Harpers

  • GeordieTwo

    Oct 15, 2015 at 6:09 PM

    Comment #32

    It’s make or break for Steve over the next couple of months. If we go into December with less than a dozen points we have no chance at all. If we have 15-18 points it’s very dodgy indeed. Anything more than that would be a miracle.

  • toon kk

    Oct 15, 2015 at 6:11 PM

    Comment #33

    Two major concerns is our work rate is dreadful along our fitness levels.
    A poor squad can grind results by hard work, but come the second half, we might as well stop in the dressing room and have a cup of tea..

  • GeordieTwo

    Oct 15, 2015 at 6:12 PM

    Comment #34

    A lot of you have been very abusive to the owner, one Mike Ashley for years now. I, on the other hand have been very patient, kind and considerate. I’ll give just one example. At one point a couple of seasons ago I told Markaccus “look mate, we’ve got to be kind and considerate to this big, fat donkey.” Of course Markaccus just wasn’t interested in that. Harrumph.

  • GeordieTwo

    Oct 15, 2015 at 6:18 PM

    Comment #35

    I can see you lot are processing what I’m saying. Certainly the owner isn’t worth tuppence, knows nothing aboot football, and I hate the look of his smarmy face. But we’ve got to give him the respect he’s due mates! Now come on, support and respect wor big fat donkey!!!!

  • Mag52

    Oct 15, 2015 at 6:22 PM

    Comment #36


    You’ve come out with some odd statements from time to time, but the idea that we will finish the season above Palace must rate as one of the oddest.

  • GeordieTwo

    Oct 15, 2015 at 6:24 PM

    Comment #37

    Catchy mate, what gives you the idea, based on our current performances that we will finish ahead of Palace? Is it something about the club we don’t understand? Is it the big, fat donkey at the top? Does he have a secret master plan that we don’t know about but you do?

  • GeordieTwo

    Oct 15, 2015 at 6:29 PM

    Comment #38

    The Donkey!
    The Donkey!
    The Big Fat Donkey!
    Mike Ashley is the Donkey!
    The Big Fat Donkey!
    To be chanted when we go behind against Norwich.

  • lesh

    Oct 15, 2015 at 6:31 PM

    Comment #39

    If Krul’s worth so many points to us a season, what does that say for our outfield defenders given the number of goals we’ve shipped over the years.

  • Munster Mag

    Oct 15, 2015 at 6:32 PM

    Comment #40

    I think we can have a bet now Catchy as lots of people seem to want it. Your old nemesis Pardew v Schteve . You say Palace will end up below us because Pardew is crap? Wrong mate, and wrong again. Pardew isnt crap at all, and Palace will be top 10, well ahead of us. Can we bet a cyber pint on it? I have spoken to two knowledgeable Palace fans and your analysis is flawed about City etc. They are happy wiuth his approach – it must be nice beating Chelsea all the time. Not bad for a so called useless manager – who was due to get Palace RELEGATED last season according to many on this site. my arse. Get a decent more like , and let him buy the players he wants, not the ones that will give Ashley a profit ( mind u I could take a few more Perez’s ) .


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