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Pundit Identities Players Newcastle Need And Don’t Need

6:16 pm, Saturday, October 17th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 78 Comments

Harry Redknapp is out of work as a football coach at the moment,  so he’s filling in as a pundit and he has today talked about Newcastle United and yes – we are in deep trouble unless we can start winning some football games soon.

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Harry Redknapp – Newcastle need more British players

This is what Harry has said to BT Sport today:

“I’ve worked with Steve McClaren, he is very, very good, enthusiastic and a good coach.

“It is massive – Tim Krul’s injury – massive.”

“Whoever has brought the players in, that is what they need to look at, he hasn’t brought those players in.”

“It is about time they started looking to bring in some British players as well, it is a club full of… it seems to be a French club almost.”

“They seem to come from everywhere but here.”

As far as British players go we had none starting in our last game at Manchester City although Jamaal Lascelles did come on for the injured Kevin Mbabu after 53 minutes.

We don’t have many British players in the squad and we really seem to rely too much on players from the continent who cost us less in transfer fees, but they are also higher risk and take some time to settle into the English game.

And some don’t settle at all,  like Remy Cabella and Manu Riviere who were both signed a year ago and haven’t made it.

As far as French players we had two starting at City – Sissoko and Gouffran – but Yoan is not a regular at Newcastle – so we really have a lot less French players than we used to have.

Players like Sylvain Marveaux, Yoan Gouffran and Manu Riviere may be leaving the club in January too.

We did buy Florian Thauvin in the summer from Marseille, but he’s struggling to make any impact so far.

It will be interesting to see who we sign in January because we need those players to make an immediate contribution to the side – if at all possible.

What do you think?

Tags: Interview · Management · Newcastle News · Premier League · Press

78 responses so far ↓

  • 1 catchy in norway // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:18 PM

    thjs is not even a story , so why post it ED.

    the man just likes to hear his own voice

  • 2 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:18 PM

    Arry we ad 1 French lad start vs Chelsea so fack orf

  • 3 welshgeordie9 // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:22 PM

    Harry come and save us and replace mcclaren, then again Pardew should still be here.

  • 4 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:22 PM

    Winless in 8 apart from Chelsea, and a few minutes vs Arsenal, possibly 45 vs Manure we’ve been absolutely f^*king atrocious
    Can’t accuse people of being table watchers but say we’ve been “not that bad”
    We’ve been worse than relegation fodder playing a majority of matches stubbornly using for some reason Pardew’s tried tested and failed 4-5-1 formation, not that bad?

  • 5 Transfer Sage // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:24 PM

    Stupid comment from Redknapp as you’d expect.

    We have too many weak players, not too many foreign players.

    Very few have a natural self belief or desire to win at all costs. That includes the British lads.

    We need a good manager, commanding CB and midfielder and some real pace added to the team.

  • 6 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:28 PM

    Sadly mind, ‘ol ‘arry’s right
    We need more British steel

    Never be in this mess if had more players like Willo Taylor Colback and Elliot
    Buy more Brit’s let’s relive arry’s vision of a mid 80’s team come on!

  • 7 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:29 PM

    Balls to arry, I’d take a Cabaye over a Colback everyday of the week

  • 8 BandB // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:30 PM

    People are confidently predicting we will recover to finish mid table.
    I am inclined to think that we won’t be able to close the gap with any of the present top 12 before the season ends.

  • 9 Jail for Ashley // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:30 PM

    Who’s more relevant or pointless ‘ol ‘arry or welshie

  • 10 BandB // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:30 PM

    Enough to overtake them, that is.

  • 11 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:30 PM

    Didn’t FDB do an interview a couple of weeks back saying he’d love a job like the managers gig….

  • 12 toon kk // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:30 PM

    Tads from previous,
    Colo was given a extension, which most including myself think was a ridiculous decision. But remember Macca has filled Pards and Carvers shoes by being a yes man. So the decision would be made for him.
    Look at most of the squad its simply not good enough, and Pardew and now Macca knows it.
    And anyone honest with themselves knows it too.

  • 13 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:31 PM

    See the Alwick brothers Jak and Ben were playing against each other today Port Vale v Peterbrough

  • 14 davetoon // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:31 PM

    Catchy – you were a big advocate of getting SMc into the club. What is your review of him after 8 games. Surely he is performing below what you expected?

  • 15 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:31 PM

    Depending on the next six games we could struggle to close the gap on the top 17…

  • 16 toonking // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:33 PM

    catchy in norway // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:17 PM


    i think his record speaks for itself. then its backed up by the strange words that come out of his mouth

    Ashley’s records also speaks for itself and whilst bad start might be accepted, suffering the same thing for 8 years is certainly one step too far, therefore ashley’s records speak for themselves too.

  • 17 BandB // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:33 PM


    It took us, hardly able to score a goal never mind register a win, months to fritter away our 10 point cushions in recent seasons.

  • 18 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:33 PM

    Toon KK
    Surely your post has just answered your own question like

  • 19 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:33 PM

    Redknapp line so many others have really misunderstood this discussion!

    …not to course offense but it seems it’s only Brits who can make this about nationally!

    McClaren is good, enthusiastic and a good coach. I had one like that when I was a kid playing football. Maybe we should bring him in 😉

  • 20 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:34 PM

    *line = like

  • 21 Rotonda heights // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:34 PM

    didn’t harry take qpr, soto and pompey down?

    the last lot of brits saylor, owen, butt, barton + given and duff (non british I know) etc didn’t exactly keep us up

  • 22 Ibizatoon // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:36 PM

    Now now you lot, Steve has asked to be judged in May, so what’s all this chit chat about? Our season is just starting, so we have no way of knowing where we’ll finish. All we know is that the rest of the league got an 8 game head start.

    I wonder if he even meant May 2016? I wonder if I’m allowed to think that as perhaps it falls under judging Steve? I best diarise May 2017 to be safe and hope for the best.

  • 23 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:38 PM

    In regards to Pardew and the squad
    Let’s not forget this squad is Pardews legacy
    He took over a squad that got us promoted, had us mid table but most importantly a squad which had a bit of fight and character
    Over the next few months he systematically under orders weeded out and disposed of anyone at the club with spine and spirit
    He left the club a battered wreck

    F**k Pardew, he’s as culpable as Ashley in this whole embarrassing 5 year sage

  • 24 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:39 PM


  • 25 davetoon // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:40 PM

    dont worry about May, if we are bottom 3 at Christmas, Mashley and the Charmless will be sweating like Snow Lions in the Sahara

  • 26 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:40 PM

    Aye, but 8 games ago he was asking us to judge after 10 games
    This claim that the season starts now is frankly embarrassing

  • 27 BandB // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:41 PM

    I am reminded of that old song “Three Wheels on My Wagon.”
    Every time we survive, comfortably or otherwise, Ashley has takes another wheel off his wagon and says “there you go lads, see if you can manage with that.”
    This year we are running on one wheel.

  • 28 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:42 PM

    Fully agree, nationality has nout to do with it
    Take wor Jonas last season
    His fight and spirit dragged this sorry excuse of a team kicking and screaming to the end of the season
    No surprise to see him discarded….

  • 29 welshgeordie9 // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:43 PM

    I hold my hands up, some of you are right, why should we have Pardew or Redknapp, Mcclaren is doing a fine job isn’t he.


  • 30 sparky55 // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:43 PM

    We need 2 centre backs, a defensive / holding midfielder, a left back and a winger.

    With the 4 players we bought in the summer that means 9 players out of a starting 11 will be new…and you wonder why we’re in the sh!te!

    You can’t make silk purses from duffer french / dutch pigs ears…not even the chosen one can do that never mind Stevie Mac…the man with the worst managerial record of any premiership manager over the last two years

    We’re sh!te from top to bottom

  • 31 Mister Tuff // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:45 PM

    toonking – I would guess that a majority on here did not want King Percy AND Mr Tubbs at the club.
    Because those posters who might have mentioned one of them in a critical post probably did not mean that they absolved the other.

    the whole lot of em -from Mr Tubbs downover have wrecked the club and made us a laughing stock =- and continue to do so.

  • 32 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:45 PM

    Fully agree, the owner seems hell bent on self destruction
    This is highlighted by forming a board of a MD who’s not fit for purpose, a scout who’s looking to keep himself in gainful employment and a manager who got the job because he was unemployed….

    All 3 share only one interest, self preservation

  • 33 toonking // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:45 PM


    I can’t remember myself weather he did a one or not but there was gossip going about when pardew was sacked that he might come to newcastle, I think he was sometimes second favourite, klopp himself was one i think got mentioned one or twice as having the love to manage us. The question always go back to cashley really and after what he at the end of last season, it begs the question why a decent manager of any type isn’t appointed.

  • 34 BandB // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:50 PM


    Despite the fact he was happy to spend the TV money that dropped into his lap this year, he wasn’t prepared to change the basic operating parameters.
    In his dealings with us he behaves like the classic miser. He knows what he wants. And he’ll happily have it. Provided he can get it for the price he wants. Otherwise he’ll do without.

  • 35 davetoon // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:52 PM

    If Charnley was the appointed CEO of Sports Direct – Ashley and the board would have sacked him after one reporting period. Yet he has allowed him to stumble through years of this dross.
    The only explanation is that Ahsley has no funkin clue about football

  • 36 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:53 PM

    Sadly there was no one on the board who could decide how to spend it
    The whole running of the club is a joke think it will all come home to roost this season, think tbh were down and the club and all involved seem to accepted that

  • 37 BandB // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:56 PM


    It reminds me of a starving man turning his nose up at a piece of bread because its 10 pence when he only wants to pay seven.
    And he will never employ a manager outside his blueprint as long as he has the proverbial hole.

  • 38 toonking // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:58 PM

    TADS 23

    We can describe manager as the main blame, owner as the main fault, charnley, carr and players or even fans no matter who is the main fault as far as I see it we are just a mess from top to bottom with a collection of greedy men.
    The best route now relegation

    We don’t get any entertainment football, european football is not a thing seen nor is the bigger name players and as for the cups we’ll still played them in the lower league. So why not go down into the championship see the greedy ones leave and ashley get another cheap league whilst we watch more entertaining football and a team containing more of the spirited players

  • 39 davetoon // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:00 PM

    This is literally the worst year in the premier league to get relegated

  • 40 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:03 PM

    Fully agree
    Sadly not sure Ashley evens to sure what his blueprint is anymore other than sell sell sell!

  • 41 Jail for Ashley // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:04 PM

    toonking // Oct 17, 2015 at 6:45 PM
    “The question always go back to cashley really and after what he at the end of last season, it begs the question why a decent manager of any type isn’t appointed.”
    It’s because he doesn’t want a decent manager who will challenge his football/business philosophy, despite the buzz word CL being used in that interview nothing was about to change just a continuation of existing to serve SD purposes, they thought they were getting a new Pardew who wouldn’t rock the boat, they outlined the job spec to him and he jumped on board because he was desperate to manage in the PL and this was his only chance, now looking very much like his last chance, Ashley does not want footballing success at a price, he is as successful in using us for what he bought us for without spending any of his own money.

  • 42 BandB // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:04 PM

    While it is now de rigeur for folks to argue “of course, we had a terrible squad and it take will take years to fix” it should be recalled that the same people were, this time last year, confident that we had had an excellent summer leaving us with a squad of top five contenders.
    After the slow start, they were convinced we would bounce back to a comfortable mid-table finish, and even by the end of the season, they still blamed Carver alone for screwing up our season.

  • 43 BandB // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:05 PM

    My point being that Ashley and Charnley probably thought the same.

  • 44 davetoon // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:10 PM

    I believe that our starting 11 minus a CB is mid table (10-15) Premier League quality

    Motivation for the squad seems to be a massive problem. The number goal for any incoming manager has to be to raise standards across the board in all areas

  • 45 davetoon // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:11 PM

    and by standards I mean off the pitch, training, fitness and most importantly mentally

  • 46 oldbobaycliffe // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:15 PM

    tads-you blame pardew but you dont blame carr surely he is the problem he is the one who has seen our defence is the worst in the pl and carr brought them all instead of buying quality he has lumbered the club with a lot of rubbish we all thinj remember he has taken risks with some players despite they have bad fitness records jong

  • 47 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:17 PM

    Must of skipped the post about Carr being in self preservation mode and the several about the whole board being rotten…

  • 48 Jail for Ashley // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:18 PM

    West Ham are a living reminder that you can not excuse the shambles of last season on this one, they also had a very poor finish last season, lots of new players and a brand new manager who’d never managed in the PL before and ironically lost to one of the worst form teams of the time on the last day. We have had a continuation of last season because no one on the board can see where they went wrong and so we have a continuation of their disastrous decision making with Mikey ringing up every now and then telling them what to do while taking a back seat!

  • 49 davetoon // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:22 PM

    We are currently ‘making our own luck’

  • 50 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:22 PM

    Yup, haven’t exactly spent silly money either, identified the weaknesses and fixed them

  • 51 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:23 PM

    Tads…Jonas has definitely always given his all (whether or not it was enough in the end)

    …the right kind of character can’t disagree there!

    We need more of that regardless of nationality!

  • 52 Jail for Ashley // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:29 PM

    Probably had Bilic lined up for awhile, he’d have been watching their games and letting them know where he wanted players bought, they got them in early and now they are starting to gel, we however sat tight and prayed McLaren, who probably spent most of his spare time trying to sort his own mess out to avoid joining us, would go on the worst losing streak before thrusting on him four players that we thought had the best sell on value and spent all summer haggling over the price.

  • 53 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:32 PM

    Fully agree again
    And there in lies the difference
    Despite courting, bizarrely, SMC since January time, we still took bloody ages to appoint the dullest appointment ever
    Then took even longer to convince the back room staff to join

  • 54 BandB // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:51 PM

    I’m going to put forward the shocking theory, based on several years of observation, that Carr is not the eminence grise he is made out to be, but is these days a far from fully active man in a largely consultant role.
    He is a far the day to-day hands-on giant who casts a long shadow over the imagination of blog members.

  • 55 Jib // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:54 PM


    Sorry for your loss.

    Wales showed their class tonight.

    It was nip and tuck right until the end
    Please don’t blame Wayne Barnes he was a good ref tonight (for an Englishman).
    In the final analysis the Welsh injury list was just too much to overcome.

    Cracking game.

    Wneud Cymru yn dda

  • 56 lochinvar // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:54 PM

    More British steel ?
    There’s none left and they just fecked the industry.
    But we know what you mean !

  • 57 Jib // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:59 PM

    B and B
    I think you are right
    Apparently Ayoze Perez was recommended by a fan who had retired to the Canaries , who phoned Carr .
    Graham went to the trouble of having a look and the rest as they say is history.

  • 58 welshgeordie9 // Oct 17, 2015 at 8:04 PM


    It was a good match mate, if it wasn’t for the late try we would have won, you right with the injuries it’s a bloody joke, just like the injuries Newcastle get, quite enjoying this World Cup.

  • 59 BandB // Oct 17, 2015 at 8:11 PM

    You agree Jib?
    That’ll surprise everyone but you and me 🙂

  • 60 angelswithdirtyfaces // Oct 17, 2015 at 8:34 PM

    Jib // Oct 17, 2015 at 7:54 PM
    Sorry for your loss.
    Wales showed their class tonight.
    It was nip and tuck right until the end”

    Cough cough Jeff
    You were predicting a real drubbing for Wales last night.
    At least you have had the grace to climb down. 😀

  • 61 angelswithdirtyfaces // Oct 17, 2015 at 8:42 PM


    I’m sure the chief scout and de facto DoF has a network of scouts doing the leg work. He is there to implement the business plan and a key cog.
    He has a position on the Board.He makes sure the scouted players tick the right boxes – and forming an integral part of the Toon 1st team isn’t on his list. He works on potential for added value as the biggest tick on his list. So actual team building from a squad is much more of a tricky job for the coach

  • 62 JamesToon // Oct 17, 2015 at 8:46 PM


    But maybe West Ham are doing well more to the fact that they invested in quality and experience I.e payet, song, Moses, Ogbonna. And already have a solid experienced backbone of Reid, Cresswell, noble, sakho. Something we haven’t had since ba/Cabaye/Ben arfa

  • 63 Jib // Oct 17, 2015 at 8:57 PM

    It’s half time in the RWC quarter final match twixt NZ and La Belle France in Cardiff.
    Even if you don’t normally watch Rugby Union , I recommend you turn to ITV for the 2nd half .
    Any thoughts of soft French pussycats will soon be dispelled.
    The All Blacks are going to win of course but it’s a cracking game.

  • 64 BandB // Oct 17, 2015 at 8:57 PM


    I took the Metro into town last Saturday, imagining the traffic would be rotten.
    The atmosphere after the World Cup game was enough to make you weep.
    Elated Scotland fans, knowing they’d nearly blown it but pulled the iron out of the fire, and progressed into the bargain.
    So like it used to be on NUFC match days and so different from the sullen mood these days.
    Regarding Carr, I agree entirely that this is the template he is working to, and wonder that folks think he is damaging the team because he can’t spot a footballer and particularly that he is somehow buying “his” type of players.

  • 65 Jib // Oct 17, 2015 at 8:58 PM

  • 66 Jail for Ashley // Oct 17, 2015 at 9:05 PM

    Yes James Toon,
    You get it !

  • 67 Jail for Ashley // Oct 17, 2015 at 9:10 PM

    Anybody who comes up with the age old yarn that says Mashers would rather have success to advertise SD in a better light obviously hasn’t seen that SD advert on SSN, local carpet shops put together bigger budget ads which goes to show he can sell as much tat with us at the bottom as pushing for CL.

  • 68 welshgeordie9 // Oct 17, 2015 at 9:41 PM

    All blacks look awesome tonight, a bit like me really.

    Ha ha ha

  • 69 Jib // Oct 17, 2015 at 9:45 PM

    There is no one quite like Jail ( perhaps Mr Tuff ) for killing the blog stone dead !

  • 70 welshgeordie9 // Oct 17, 2015 at 9:49 PM


    And they especially jail accuses me and you of killing the blog, don’t think so somehow.

  • 71 jimmysmith // Oct 17, 2015 at 10:07 PM

    One thing I have no trouble swallowing is that Newcastle will be looking at the inflated prices EPL clubs are being quoted and are paying, and contrasting that with the riches on offer and then thinking we can have our cake and eat it, and so no more Demba Ba’s, Papisse Cisse’s, or Fabricio Collocini’s. in their primes. No finished or proven EPL articles, and while I quite like the idea of bringing in only Mbemba’s, and Mitrovoc’s it would be a stretch to describe the policy as making your own luck, when its practiced by Carr and Charnley.

  • 72 jimmysmith // Oct 17, 2015 at 10:09 PM

    …….much more like riding your luck

  • 73 Jib // Oct 17, 2015 at 10:20 PM

    I’m fairly confident that Moncur and Carr who are both in their seventies are looking to step down sooner rather than later.

    I think the best case scenario was for SM to win something in fairly short order and move upstairs to work with Lee Charnley leaving Ian Cathro as head coach.

    To quote Burns (Eds favourite )
    “The best laid plans o’ mice and men gang oft agley”

    Same plan , different timescale , is all.

  • 74 Sliema // Oct 17, 2015 at 10:21 PM

    Somehow I still don’t think we are a million miles away from getting things right. Football is a funny old game, a team’s confidence can flip and everything can change for the better or worse pretty rapidly, we’ve seen it before a million times even with us under p45 consistently.

    The group no doubt lacks the right characters, and we certainly have proven that a complete of English players in your squad is not perhaps the best idea. But as everyone on here has pointed out it is the lack of ‘successful’ and proven premier league experience/talent we have in our ranks which is the real issue.

    All that said, there are players enough in our squad who individually have a lot of ability that if we can just get a bit of confidence and the right starting XI we definitely could climb the table pretty quickly.

    However the longer this joke of a run we are on continues the more difficult it is becoming to believe it is actually going to happen.

  • 75 sparky55 // Oct 17, 2015 at 10:23 PM

    The gulf in ability, organisation and togetherness between us and top 15 is pretty much reflected in the gulf between the all blacks and France tonight…it’s that wide and that embarrassing.

    …we are in big trouble

  • 76 Our Toon // Oct 17, 2015 at 10:53 PM

    I used to think toon fans were knowledgeable bunch but I’m starting to think otherwise of late, yes we’ve had a bad start and yes certain performances have been poor but it’s only 8 games!! New manager will take time to stamp his authority no matter how much some whine on about it. Unfortunately it’s symptomatic of modern culture where they can play fifa or football manager and get instant success.

    McClaren isn’t someone I wanted but I’m not writing him off or judging him after 8 flipping games. It’s madness!!

  • 77 jimmysmith // Oct 17, 2015 at 11:15 PM

    Austin is a type of player they will look at in January, not because we’d ideally want him, but because of the position we find ourselves in, and because he has only 6 months left on his contract.

    We’ll get him at the price we wanted to pay pre season, having gone without for half a season, dependant on if we can convince him to sign for a relegation threatened club.

    I think there’s been an adjustment to the policy, but whether it’s a progressive one, set against what other clubs are now doing, is contentious.

  • 78 isleofmanman // Oct 18, 2015 at 2:32 PM

    I’m listening to the radio and the completely jusifiable praise for Howard Kendal for putting together a team of unknown Brits in his great era

    We have a ridiculous number of foreign players. Getting them to respect the UK never mind The Toon is a stretch

    To be honest I’m sick to the back teeth with the current ratio. Lets have a small number of top flight foreigners. Period

    Oh and Ashley’s bag carrying and completely useless MD needs to go. If he worked in any other sector and was accountable to institutional shareholders he’d already be long gone. Idiot.

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