These Two Experienced Players Can Still Do Job For Newcastle


Cheick Tiote made a rare starting  appearance for Newcastle on Sunday and he immediately showed one of the poorer aspects of his game, when he picked up a yellow card after only 5 minutes.

Cheick picks up far too many yellow cards with lunging tackles and that´s what happened early in the game on Sunday.

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Cheick Tiote – can do a job for Newcastle this season

But the 53 times capped Ivory Coast International can still do a big job for Newcastle this term and he could start against Sunderland on Sunday even though he may be given just one half.

McClaren could again  bring in Vurnon Anita  – and Vurnon had a solid game in place of the Ivorian in the second half – maybe that display  has earned the Dutchman a starting place in Sunday?

The Newcastle head coach is trying to get Cheick some playing time so he gets match fit.

This is what McClaren has said about Cheick:

“We are trying to get Cheick involved again because we think he can be a big player for us” “He wasn’t going to last the game – it was his first game, he’s trained for two weeks.”

“We just felt we need to start him – his energy is quite infectious – and we knew he wouldn’t last and we just brought Vurnon Anita on for a bit more stability.”

“But it’s good that Cheick gets 45 minutes and he’s involved again.”

With our poor defense maybe Cheick can help to add some steel in the center – and as Steve says – he does provide energy as he plays just in front of the back four.

We´ll just have to wait and see if he can form a decent partnership in central midfield with local lad Jack Colback.

So it would be good to see Cheick make his mark for the team this season and another experienced player we have – Papiss Cisse – looked lively enough when he was brought on for the last few minutes on Sunday.

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Papiss Cisse – can also do a job for Newcastle this season

Papiss Cisse holds the best ever goal scoring run at Newcastle – 13 goals in hist first 14 games when he joined us in January 2012 from SC Freiburg for around £9M.

And he showed last season, when he was hardly fully fit with that knee problem, that he could still score goals from the bench.

Now Papiss is fully fit so there´s no reason why he cannot do that for us this season too.

Here are two experienced players who can still help Newcastle this season big time.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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125 comments so far

  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 20, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #1

    If he hadn’t of been lied to and messed around he could have been a big player this last two years.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Oct 20, 2015 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #2

    I’d rather have these two in the squad and on the bench. Can’t have enough experience so long as they stay fit.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Oct 20, 2015 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #3

    Lost a day and a bit, so only managed to watch the game last night.

    I had checked the score Sunday evening, but assumed I must be a bit worse for wear after reading we had won 6-2.

    At last! Hopefully it’ll give everyone a much needed lift. I’m still far from convinced with our set up, but some decent attacking intent during the game gives me hope.

    Time for the mackems.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 20, 2015 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #4

    Ibiza,
    I haven’t looked forward to a derby match as much as this one for two years now, I wonder what the mentality of the dressing room was to achieve something that hadn’t been done in the clubs history, it makes you wonder if it was almost deliberate.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Oct 20, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #5

    Jail…Losing so many times againt the mackems to make club history? 🙂

    Well, I suppose if you can’t break good records…

    Hopefully a chance to put things right this weekend. We do have a knack of giving them a helping hand when they need it most though.

    Rome may not have been built in a day, but a day is long enough to give the unwashed a good old spanking.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #6

    Ibiza,
    Off topic, do you use the Duo Lingo app and website for learning Spanish, it’s really good and it’s a free service as well, I’ve gained 52% fluency, it reckons !

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #7

    As many will know now I’m not a fan of McClaren and also running my own business funny enough in Derby I have employees who are all practical Derby fans and when the pre season started I knew a bit of McClaren style on what he brought in when at Derby.

    My employees have told me months ago that McClaren will work on the creative and attacking side of things first to see how it results, they also say he will try different formations to see what benefits more in attacking, then he sets up a defensive approach to games but gives players a chance to approach this method, but in the meantime could sacrifice a few games to test the ability of the formation and players.

    When McClaren came out and said the other games are basically pre season games maybe my employees where right in his methods.

    Think about it Swansea, Watford, SW, was a more defensive approach whilst against the bigger teams we were more attacking.

    Against Norwich we were creative and attacking and even though our defence is still weak even with a week training on defence McClaren knows now on what to improve, what players ability is the strongest and weakest and who to get in January.

    Patience though is what we need.

    They also stated that he plays a possession style formation with quick creative players on the wings which lead to strikers and wingers being the attacking outlook and getting goals which we seen against Norwich with both strikers scoring and Winaldum getting 4 from the wings.

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  • Ian Toon

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #8

    16Ian Toon // Oct 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Jail- Oh I see! In your befuddled mind after our first win you think it a good time to now link me with Sack Llambias. Your really not very good at inventing,
    making up stories- it can’t be to entertain, to fantasise, escaping from reality, dissembling, adopting one persona to conceal another. Your a cretin and only fellow befuddled mates of yours would buy your constant regurgitation of such drivel – you must have had an unhappy childhood, that you need to constantly relieve it.
    A further reflection, is that in my absence from the blog your about to start a further campaign. Maybe the appearance of Llambias or do you have more personas to unleash?

    Just stop the puerile games and fantasy – just get on with life in the real world.
    I bare you no malice.
    I have only ever posted as Ian Toon – as Ed has verified.
    HWTL.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #9

    Jail…I don’t, but shall take a look. Sounds good.

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  • jayphoto

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #10

    said this when we signed him and got ridiculed and retweeted and all kinds of abuse, but when Newcastle signed Wijnaldum they signed the best player in Holland including Depay! I don’t think he’s even 100% adapted to the Premier League yet either!

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #11

    Ibiza,
    It’s really good and perfect if you’re getting to practice everyday.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #12

    Jail…Just taking a look now, looks good. Thanks.

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  • Bobbybee

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #13

    Sadly i’m still in bed trying to recover but was it worth the pain? Every bit of it. 😉 It wasn’t just the result, it was the manner. Some lovely football, zipping the ball around and more movement than i’ve seen in a full game all season. What about Mitrovic’s reversed nutmeg? And his goal was so much like a Shearer goal I thought I’d slipped time. This was the run of games I said would lift us up the table, so I hope I’m not wrong. Can’t wait for next weekend now. Wonder if we can empty their ground before half time, or just after. Mitrovic is going to scare them to death and whilst he does, Perez or Wijnaldum will take advantage of space he creates. Usually nervy about this one, but not this time. 😉

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #14

    De Nada

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  • jayphoto

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #15

    @Nezza – I live nearish derby and am surrounded by Rams fans when I’m not away with work. They all said pretty much the same. They all said at times he played amazing football at Derby but it all depended on when the Big striker was on the pitch. (chris martin)
    When martin was Injured there form fell apart.
    Think we’ll see this with Mitrovic. Against Norwich he was occupying 2 opposition players most of the time. created a lot of space in the hole for Wijnaldum and Perez to run in to. I think in time if he gets some fitness this will suit De Jong too but I do worry there is no like for like replacement for Mitrovic should he get bans or injuries.
    I think in 2016 (jan and summer)we need a back up striker to Mitrovic aswell as a midfield destroyer, a CB and possibly a left back. If they spend another 50m next year on these 4 players and don’t let anyone leave we’ll have a very very strong side.

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #16

    Jayphoto

    Aye mate, but maybe he’s looking at SDJ to maybe play that role if Mitrovic gets the ban or injured?

    Or maybe even Riv, even though he’s smaller than Mitrovic but he’s quite strong and fast and could hold up the ball at times.

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  • jayphoto

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #17

    Might be wrong but I’ve not seen any threads on this but it’s interesting.
    Remy Cabella faces being sent back to Newcastle as he’s played 10 games for Marseille and they have to buy him after 12 appearances. His form has been absolutely woeful and the transfer fee and wages would take up most of cash strapped Marseille’s budget. Journos and pundits close to Marseille are saying there is no way they will want to buy Cabella full time and want to remove the obligatory purchase from the loan but it’s thought Newcastle won’t entertain the suggestion.
    Anyone seen him this season?? geez, did Carver and Pardew break him?
    On another (can of worms) note, anyone seen Benny?? Goddamn that boy has all the ability in the world. Doesn’t have to defend at all at Nice, he only moves when he;s got the ball like and he’s still not showing much intelligence in in-game decision making but wow his technical ability is out of this world.

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #18

    I think McClaren still has Bas dose on his radar are someone similar?

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  • jayphoto

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #19

    @Nezza – I wouldn’t be adversed to them just buying Chris Martin as a back up. Reckon he’d do a job in the premier league, he’s tricky for defenders to play against and his work rate is superb.
    Failing that, Andy Carroll coming on in the 75min for Mitrovic wouldn’t be the worst sight (risks AC article by ed tho)

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #20

    Jayphoto

    Haven’t seen him play but Cabella and Thuavin on the bench could prove useful with our squad now, both players are quick and could cause a nightmare for fullbacks with tired legs?

    With HBA I think we all knew what he was capable of but Pardew wanted him to defend more meaning less in attacking transition.

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  • Bobbybee

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #21

    I can’t wait to see Mitrovic link up with Arma when he returns from loans. He’ll create space for Arma to capitalise on, which is his strengths – zipping through the channels. The kid’s just a goal machine and with defences concentrating on the big fella, he’ll score for fun. Especially as we now have players who can pick the pass into the channels. We have a young team that will mature together and when they do, we’ll scare teams to death. It will take time, but the future is looking very rosy.

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #22

    Jayphoto

    He might have Chris and Hughes on his radar atm.

    But it might be that Gouffran, Cisse and Riv will have to move on but in a way it could be better for us.

    Perez, Armstrong ……… Chris or Similar, Mitrovic

    Could be what he’s looking for?

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  • jayphoto

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #23

    @nezza – honestly in france, Cabella looks is playing every week the way Thauvin played against Sheffield Wednesday! Can hardly pass a ball 5 yards… hes doing more of those stepovers that fool nobody too. Honestly can’t believe its the same player that played for Montpellier?
    Theres rumours that theres stuff going on in his head/personal life, just looks a broken player!
    Reckon McClaren has done right by Thauvin, taken him out of the firing line, let him work on his strength, learn some English, settle in the area etc. Bit surprised not to see him come on in the Norwich game when we were 5/6-2 up though

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #24

    Please, please, please tell me what our captain was doing for Norwich’s first goal. He should be charged £50 for having the best seat in the house and sitting back with his hands behind his head and his feet up. This man troubles me greatly. Your centre back and captain needs to have a large, strong physical presence and dominant character. You’ve got to ask yourself why our defence is one of the worst in Europe.

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #25

    Bobbybee

    Hell yeah mate, it could happen in January when we bring Armstrong and ship out the deadwood.

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  • Slank

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #26

    BobbyBee

    And where would you play Perez if Armstrong is the No 10 ?

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  • jayphoto

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #27

    @Nezza – yeah Martins in good form aswell this season, got 7 or 8 already I think. At 26, and with the success Ings, Austin, vardy and fleetingly the Bournemouth lad had coming from lower leagues I’ll be surprised if no one takes a chance on him! He’s looked ok at international level too (though Scotlands style is hard for an attacking player as they concede most of the ball and focus on running around a lot)

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  • beefman13

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #28

    Tiote had a few decent seasons for us, he has got to move on imo, he was becoming a liability for us before his injuries??? That central midfield area is so important, Tiote has had time, hes been getting well paid to long for doing squat, see ya.

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  • jayphoto

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #29

    At Blackley – got to agree, Coloccini is playing terrible. He doesn’t organise enough for me either and now he hasn’t got Tim Krul behind him. Krul used to organise the defence ( or at least shout directions) a lot more than Elliot does.
    I suspect had Taylor been fit then his place would have been more under threat. I think McClaren probably realises Willo is counter productive in the sense that his lack of composure and technical skills harm us going forward and Lascelles is nowhere near ready for the premier league.
    Not sure when Taylors back, but with all the prozone stats, analysis experts etc the club pay for, there is no way McClaren doesn’t see hes under performing.
    Similarly I find Janmaat quite troubling defensively. Rarely gets out quick enough to close the cross down! We have 2 short centrebacks, they need to work more on stopping the delivery from wide!

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #30

    My Aunty Eunice is in her mid seventies and can’t walk very far after a back operation. I reckon she could worry Colo if she was allowed to take a walking frame and hand bag onto the field of play. She could swing her hand bag to make him flinch and buy herself a few seconds to position her frame. Does the rule book make mention of walking frames and hand bags, Jib?

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  • will die for the toon army

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #31

    It looks like we have our first team:
    …………………….Elliott
    Janmmatt…..Mbemba……Colo…….Dummett
    Sissoko. ….Tiote…….Colback………Wijnaldum
    ………………..Perez…………Mitrovic

    Back up:
    ………………………..Darlow
    Mbabu……Taylor. ……..Lasceles……..Haidara
    Thauvin……..De Jong……..Anita. …….Aarons
    …………………..Rivere………….Cisse

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #32

    Jayphoto

    True mate, but we know McClaren wants rotation players incase of injuries, he should know now that Sissoko and Winaldum on the wings are probably going to be 1st team starters now with Cabella, Thuavin and Aarons fighting for places or maybe send 1 of the 3 out on loan till end of season and ship out Obertan.

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  • jayphoto

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #33

    Maybe McClaren has looked at the curse of newcastles defence, seen that many a manager has fallen on his sword trying to fix it and thought, sod it, we’ll just have to score 6 every game ala Keegan….
    I can handle Coloccini if we score 6 each week

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  • hibbitt

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #34

    the last thing we need to do is bring arma back to sit on the bench let the kid play learn his trade gain the experience when he does come back he we will be a better player with a season in the championship under his belt

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #35

    It’s funny how our best wingers are a CM and a AMC lol

    Jayphoto

    No doubt McClaren will have eyes on Martin if he’s still in form but it rather depends if Martins wants to be second fiddle to Mitrovic though?

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  • jayphoto

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #36

    @Nezza – I actually don’t think it’ll work out for Aarons here. Not sure why, because I like what I’ve seen and heard. His situation, and him actually reminds me a lot of David Hoilett jr at Blackburn! Great young talent, electric pace, showed flashes, got a big time agent, ran his contract down at Blackburn, asked for silly money and ignored clubs that would develop his talent to take the money at QPR and now languishes on the bench in the championship.
    Really hoping that doesn’t happen with Aarons, I don’t get the impression the coaching staff have been impressed with him all that much though

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  • will die for the toon army

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #37

    When Cisse leaves in Jan, I think we will get either Lassoga or Austin.

    For those calling for Armstrong, I wld keep him on loan for the next 2 yrs and also send him to Championship. We have Rivere use him as back up for Perez. All we need is back up for Mitrovic who can do exactly as what he does.

    Carroll or Lassoga for me.

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  • nut meg

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #38

    Jay
    I seen about 10 minutes of the Marseille game online.Just in time to see Cabella have a shot saved.He then provided a good chance for Alessandrini who skewed it well wide,he seemed to be involved in most of the moves that I seen. I have no idea about his overall form.

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  • Bobbybee

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #39

    Slank, he can play midfield out wide. The point being that Arma is the best finisher we’ve got on our books mate, by a distance. Forget his cameos under Pardew and Carver, when long balls were sent towards him and his six foot plus markers – he was truly wasted. U18’s, U21’s, England Youth and now Coventry, when he gets the right service, he scores for fun. It might be a lower level, but check out the quality of the goals – they’d grace any league. I love Perez, but a finisher isn’t his strongest point. I’ve personally watched this lad grow through the academy, U21’s and England youth and imo he’s the most natural striker since Shearer. He’s still only 18 and his loan record alone is something like 8/9 already. There’ll be a place for Perez, but Arma will walk into our team when he returns and then sparks will fly.

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #40

    Jayphoto

    Could be on to something there mate, Aarons would probably be sent out on loan coming January to develop him more like Armstrong.

    Could work out to be another Ginola in the coming years with the right guidance and experience.

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