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Newcastle Could Suffer Shock Departure

5:33 pm, Wednesday, October 21st, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 123 Comments

Newcastle signed Florian Thauvin from Marseille over the summer for around £12M – and it was a surprising signing and  essentially in part exchange for Remy Cabella – who is currently on loan at Marseille.

But it was seen by many fans as a strange signing since Cabella and Thauvin were of the same build and fairly similar in their playing styles, and if Cabella didn’t make it why did Newcastle think Thauvin would make it?

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Florian Thauvin – in action at Old Trafford

Cabella has now played 9 times for Marseille and once he plays 12 games the deal is automatically made – and Remy would be transferred to Marseille permanently in January – that’s going to happen.

The fee is said to be around £6M – half of what Newcastle are paying for Thauvin.

Steve McClaren did say the reason Newcastle signed Thauvin was for his crossing ability and we saw some of that that skill in the early games, but he’s not been able to retain his first team place and like Cabella is inconsistent when he plays.

Florian has made 7 appearances for Newcastle with one goal and three assists but they came against Northamtpon Town in the League Cup which we won 4-1.

There’s a report in Mercato365 that suggests that his time with the Magpies could already be coming to an early end, but there’s no way this lad will be leaving in January.

First of all it’s far too early and with Newcastle coming into some form now (hopefully) then it will be much easier for Florian to find his feet on the pitch.

The other thing is he cannot leave in January and play for another club, because he’s already played for two teams and would face the same restrictions Ben Arfa faced last January at Nice.

Ben Arfa had already played for the Newcastle U21 side and Hull City and that was two clubs according to FIFA, which was simply ridiculous – a Newcastle reserve side shouldn’t have counted – but the Frenchman was not allowed to play at Nice until this season.

Ben Arfa also seems to be making up for lost time this season at the south of France club.

But we certainly haven’t given up on Florian and he’s a talented player and also seems to have the right attitude.

He needs to be supported and it’s up to Steve McClaren and the rest of the Newcastle coaches to start to get the best out of him.

That’s very possible.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.

Tags: Coaching · Florian Thauvin · Hatem Ben Arfa · Loan Moves · Newcastle News · Premier League · Remy Cabella · Transfer News and Rumours

123 responses so far ↓

  • 1 BeeGuy // Oct 21, 2015 at 5:59 PM

    The guy needs some muscle to play in the EPL. He should be in the weight room every day, bulking up, so he does not get pushed off the ball.

  • 2 beefman13 // Oct 21, 2015 at 6:00 PM

    This kid Thauvin needs to see 100 psychiatrists, wrap him in cotton wool, say prayers for him at the cathedral, and feed him grapes with the help of a local Virgin.

    This may do the trick, we have to look after our heroes on 40g’s a week.


  • 3 Thump // Oct 21, 2015 at 6:00 PM

    There’s a report in Mercato365

    Ah, a reliable source.

  • 4 Bambams // Oct 21, 2015 at 6:00 PM

    I just wish this kid was quicker. Far too early to judge znd he is not a defensive type player so will find it easier to show what he can do when team is playing with confidence
    I still think SDJ will have a huge part to play in this team. The bloke for whatever reason has not reached full fitness yet and he cannot be judged yet. He is a class act, top top player.
    With him, Wini, Aarons and the two up front we would create. Problem is we can’t play too many offensive players due to our very weak defence.

  • 5 Sliema // Oct 21, 2015 at 6:03 PM

    Can’t believe how many people have already written this lad off. I’ll admit it looks like a bit of a strange one paying this much for him after his poor season… but he is here now and we should see how he fares over the course of the season rather than his handful of minutes to date.

  • 6 Sliema // Oct 21, 2015 at 6:06 PM

    Similarly I have seen a few people writing off SDJ on this blog. Show some patience ffs.

  • 7 goommy // Oct 21, 2015 at 6:13 PM

    I think he just need time to blend with PRM. Don’t know, maybe I just keep supporting him and SDJ for time being.

    Time will tell..

  • 8 croftus5678 // Oct 21, 2015 at 6:30 PM

    i’m far from writing off thauvin myself as he’s allready proved what he’s capable of with us when he played against northampton when he scored 1 goal and had 3 assists and could have easily been 4 if perez was to have scored !

    so 6 games 1 goal 3 assists as a player who’s yet to get used to the prem aint too bad imo.

  • 9 croftus5678 // Oct 21, 2015 at 6:34 PM

    @6 sliema

    i’m suspect of writing off siem tbh !

    i was a big fan of the lad also as smart players are hard to come bye but siem’s just let me down after such a promising start before his injury.

    your right though i shouldnt be so quick to condemn as i’d soon be making myself look a fool if he does hit form.

  • 10 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 21, 2015 at 6:35 PM

    I think there is deffo question marks over him and SDJ. I’d love to say im confident they will come good but im no where near.

    When I look at Montero, Ayew or Payet im gutted to be honest. Obviously wages come into it which we wouldn’t pay and that is the difference.

  • 11 Munster Mag // Oct 21, 2015 at 6:54 PM

    Get rid of thauvin. Little straight line pace. Probably wont defend. Bye bye. Sdj…..i think he is too brittle but hope for best

  • 12 Reyantoon // Oct 21, 2015 at 6:54 PM

    Mitrovic scored typical world class goal on Saturday,as beauty as the one he scored agt City.Started to show what he is capable of doing and how important he’s upfront.Just needs more of those type of balls from wijnaldum,
    Sissoko and the like.Glad that he started to prove them wrong (criticizers and moaners) and slams their mouth shut!!

  • 13 will die for the toon army // Oct 21, 2015 at 7:11 PM

    Toon- Prodigy

    Montero and Ayew have u guys watched Swansea lately. Payet may b he is a very good player. But with wat we have signed in the last 2 seasons these are upcoming players who will get good with tye right coaching.

    De Jong, Colback, Cabella, Thauvin, Wijnaldum, Mitrovic, Colback, Ayoze, Janmatt, Mbemba, Rivere.

    Those were good signings and jst needed a good coach. let’s hope in Mcca, Cathro and Simpson they have one.

  • 14 check the toastie // Oct 21, 2015 at 7:12 PM

    Thauvin looked the real deal when we went down to ten men against Arsenal, a lot stronger than Cabella, hopefully he comes good.

  • 15 check the toastie // Oct 21, 2015 at 7:16 PM

    we just need rid of collo and get in a top class holding midfielder and we could go places. plus a keeper on loan, Elliot is gash. If we had a Tiote from four years ago, Wijnaldum could play ACM, unfortunately he is now hopeless.

  • 16 SUTTY1978 // Oct 21, 2015 at 7:17 PM

    Croftus, the problem with your positive assessment of Thauvin is that we don’t play in league two. We could have picked from a long list of players to splash that last 8 figure sum on and we chose a crappy player who was horrendously poor in a week league. I’d have struggled to see it as a good deal if we had got him on a free.
    The problem is that just like Obertan he will be stuck here for five years taking up a squad space and wages and offering nothing in return.

  • 17 cyprus // Oct 21, 2015 at 7:18 PM

    SDJ will have a ‘huge part’?

    That’s like really big, right? Right now I just hope he plays a part- any positive part

  • 18 sparky55 // Oct 21, 2015 at 7:20 PM

    Wasn’t Mbabu bought by newcastle as centre half???

  • 19 croftus5678 // Oct 21, 2015 at 7:29 PM

    @18 sparky

    yes he’s a cb

    @16 sutty

    aye i know and i’m just as confused as you about why we signed him tbh ! tbf though if we went back 2-3 years when at bastia we prob would not have had a chance at a player with his promise.

    hopefully he’s a late bloomer…i just think its unfair on him to be judged on a few games when the likes of ober who’s been here a lot longer should be way ahead of him in the dole cue imo.

  • 20 GeordieTwo // Oct 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM

    Sunderland’s squad looks really weak. Their owner has really let them fall apart. I think we can beat them this time. 😀

  • 21 beefman13 // Oct 21, 2015 at 8:10 PM

    I hope Thauvin proves us all wrong I really do.

    Anyway I see Mbabu as a terrific utility player across the back four, I’ve always liked Aarons but this injury thing with him is just to frustrating for words.

  • 22 firebug666 // Oct 21, 2015 at 8:12 PM

    I am quietly confident of a win on Sunday, thinking maybe 2 or 3 nil, it’s about time we kept a clean sheet.

    Figure Mitrovic and Perez will be in on the goals again, Mitrovic creates a lot of space when making his runs, taking defenders with him.

    If Sissoko is on form again they could be in for a thrashing.


  • 23 Blackley and Brownlie // Oct 21, 2015 at 8:33 PM

    I’d prefer to try Colo as a holding midfielder. His current skill set seems far better suited than as a CB.

  • 24 SUTTY1978 // Oct 21, 2015 at 8:34 PM

    Croftus, unfortunately he’s an early bloomer rather than a late bloomer. He’s already has his peak, it’s been and gone. Would have had no complaints if we had bought him from Bastia, that would have been a risk worth taking on a player who looked like he could be a future world beater.
    The crazy thing is that we bought him for more money at a later point where he had already proved he was just a flash in the pan player.
    When you look at the quality of the other players we bought in the summer it makes it even more annoying. Love Mitro Gini & Mbemba and wanted them here as soon as we were linked. With Thauvin it’s the polar opposite.

  • 25 TroubledToon // Oct 21, 2015 at 8:51 PM

    There goes Ed again with another Diva headline 😀

  • 26 martoon // Oct 21, 2015 at 9:00 PM

    I know I’m biased but I’d much rather have our squad than the makems. I was trying to think of any of their squad I would take and I can only think of two Lens and Defoe. Any other suggestions?

  • 27 Mag52 // Oct 21, 2015 at 9:13 PM

    I think we’ve got to say the jury is still out as yet on Thauvin.
    Recollecting some of the comments about Sissoko in the weeks leading up to the Norwich game, there are some on here who would have seen him out of SJP in the blink of an eye. Hopefully he’s now going to crack on and show us how good he really is.
    Thauvin is a young man playing in front of the biggest crowds in his career in what is reputedly the toughest league. I’d give him longer to settle in.

  • 28 beefman13 // Oct 21, 2015 at 9:21 PM

    Troubled Toon, ive always thought Colo would be a v good defensive midfielder, Dummett and Mbemba centre halfs, sacrifice either colback or Anita for Colo, freshen it up, Mbabu left back and Janmatt right back. to many teams i think are now targeting Colo as a weak link.

  • 29 Jib // Oct 21, 2015 at 9:22 PM

    Ha ha ha
    Munster wants Thauvin down the road after minutes of playing time in the EPL.
    You’ve got to love Irish sports knowledge.
    A song for you Munster here

  • 30 MadisonToon // Oct 21, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    Quite the performance on Sunday, what I was hoping for but not expecting. I do think it would have been a game where we could have given Thauvin a bit of a run out to improve his confidence and let him at a defense that’s scared and liable to give him some extra space. However, with Sissoko and Gini in the form they were in last game it would have been some tough love to take them off.

    I agree with the above posters, Thauvin hasn’t been given enough time or opportunities to prove himself yet. He showed what he is capable of against Northamton Town. He can do it, he’s just adjusting to the PL. Keep him in the weight room for a while and convince him of the importance of strength to complement trickery and we could have quite the player. If we let him think his trickery is enough and that he’s just being unlucky then we will have HBA 2.0 on our hands…all down to coaching. I loved what HBA could do on his day, but his prima donna attitude was never going to work. It’s one of the things I dislike the most about the current professional soccer attitude and not something that has any place at SJP.

    Anyway, I digress, so let’s keep the faith with Thauvin through the season and let him adjust, he’s still young and has room to grow and make this move come good.

  • 31 catchy in norway // Oct 21, 2015 at 9:44 PM

    Well for what it’s worth, I believe both florian and remy Both have a future at SJP, it’s hard to judge cabella with a shyt coach like p45 guiding him.

    We have options and once this squad gets there confidence back, we will fly up the table

  • 32 SUTTY1978 // Oct 21, 2015 at 9:46 PM

    He was crap in France, it is nothing to do with adjusting to the premier league.
    If we buy a player who is very good in another league then I’m always willing to give them time. All he is shown is that he looks good against league two players. I’d be happy if he comes good but there is no chance.

  • 33 JAMSHA // Oct 21, 2015 at 9:58 PM

    wont bother if thauvin goes, never wanted him, overrated, i knew he would be a waste

  • 34 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 21, 2015 at 10:06 PM

    As for Sissoko, it will take more than one good performance against Norwich to sway me into thinking he is an amazing player.

    Even Obertan has had decent games now and again.

    You have to be very near to consistent for this league, it’s no good showing up when you feel up to it or when your lucky.

  • 35 Mister Tuff // Oct 21, 2015 at 10:10 PM

    Don’t know if many saw the FA response in respect of the news that Platini was being investigated. Here it is below:-

    “The FA supports the statement issued by UEFA on Thursday 15 October concerning the ethics case against Michel Platini.

    This statement expressed respect for the significant work performed by Mr Platini at UEFA, requested that he be afforded due process in contesting the charges, and encouraged the relevant bodies involved to reach a final decision on the merits of the case by mid-November.

    The FA wishes Mr Platini every success in fighting these charges and clearing his name, and has no interest in taking any action that jeopardises this process.

    However, notwithstanding the above, at the UEFA meeting on Thursday, The FA learnt more information relating to the issues at the centre of this case from Mr Platini’s lawyers.

    We have been instructed that the information must be kept confidential and therefore we cannot go into specifics.

    As a result of learning this information, The FA Board has on Friday morning concluded that it must suspend its support for Mr Platini’s candidature for the FIFA Presidency until the legal process has been concluded and the position is clear.

    A decision can then be taken on who to support in the Presidential election on 26 February 2016.”

    The area of contention, which I think is outrageous and shows how out of touch the FA are is the third paragraph – where they wish Mr Platini every success in fighting the charges and clearing his name.
    Surely they should not be taking sides at the commencement of this investigation by supporting Platini. Surely they should have said something along the lines of supporting the investigation and hoping that if anything untoward was established then justice should take it’s course.
    But hoping that Platini clears his name suggests that they think he’s innocent and wrongly accused.
    in my opinion shows how useless the FA are. They are going to look a bit daft if he is found to be corrupt. And these tools are doing this in the name of English football. They need investigating and the lot of em cleared out.

  • 36 Roosta // Oct 21, 2015 at 10:10 PM

    Come on Thauvin, most Toon fans only dream about playing on the hallowed turf at SJP, if you get another chance take it and go for it, fans already have you down as a bit of a show pony, you have been Pony up until now except for one league cup game, its up to you son.

  • 37 MadisonToon // Oct 21, 2015 at 10:12 PM


    Very true. He does so little some games. He has the potential but he’s too old for us to be talking about his potential.


    ‘Crap in France’ is one way to rate a winger with 23G/14A in 101 matches who was 18-21 during that time. Ligue 1 is certainly no PL, but if we got a goal every four games from our wingers that would be 9-10 for the season and a very reasonable contribution IMO from a winger. Differences in league quality, sure, but you have to expect improvement with age and I think his acquisition wasn’t a bad move. Time will tell, but that seems like a harsh assessment given his career so far.

  • 38 jimmysmith // Oct 21, 2015 at 10:16 PM

    We have a few players who might do well at a senior club. I don’t blame Sissoko overly for not shining week to week. He’s a good player, but we’ve never had enough of them, and the ones we’ve had have often carried the can. I don’t think Sissoko, or Colo are the problem as much as we could do with three or four more of similar calibre, and always have done under Ashley.

  • 39 Munster Mag // Oct 21, 2015 at 10:22 PM

    Logically, there is nothing to suggest that we will see Sissoko play well every week. He hasnt approached that type of consistency and unless SMC is a genius, he wont so lets relax about him. I hope I’m wrong re Thauvin because he started better than Cabella, but I took a negative view on Obertab, Santon, Mbiwa and Marveaux and have no reason to think I was wrong. Perhaps Thauvin can be a player for home games , but against fast full backs away from home ( eg West Ham ) , he looked both slow and fairly disinterested.

  • 40 Jib // Oct 21, 2015 at 10:29 PM

    Mr Tuff nowhere in that statement do the FA say they “HOPE” for anything !!!

    Wishing someone success is not the same as saying they hope they win.

    At the RWC in South Africa , Nelson Mandela wished both sides success , but he only hoped for a Boks victory .

    You need some English comprehension lessons me lad.

  • 41 jimmysmith // Oct 21, 2015 at 10:35 PM

    Thauvin does need time, although I agree he hasn’t given a great first impression. He cost twelve million quid though, and I think the club were thinking he might have slotted straight in. Our rotten start can’t have helped him. It hasn’t been ideal for anyone, but we are showing signs of unity and spirit and improvement. We need Tiote and DeJong contributing more and a couple of decent January signings, to give us a side in which our better players can relax and show more.

  • 42 jimmysmith // Oct 21, 2015 at 10:44 PM

    Lot of pressure at Newcastle, and it just keeps building with every trophy less season. I think we often forget the impact that must have on the players and staff. It’s been the cause of countless casualties over the years, many big names among them.

  • 43 Mister Tuff // Oct 21, 2015 at 10:56 PM

    Jib Jibberish – abuser of disabled persons – thought you would be attracted out to start a nonsensical argument – for no other purpose that to cause division.
    I posted the FA statement and then in my own words my take on what they said. If you were not happy with my interpretation – the original text was provided.
    I fail to see why my use of the word hope instead of wish caused anyone to be mislead.
    Indeed if you knew anything about English grammar you should know that hope is a synonym of wish.

    You are a complete tool and grossly offensive -why don’t you clear off from our blog.

  • 44 Mister Tuff // Oct 21, 2015 at 11:06 PM

    Really says a lot when your post is not to comment on the story but to continue your trolling.

  • 45 manxpie // Oct 21, 2015 at 11:16 PM

    catchy you still about?

  • 46 manxpie // Oct 21, 2015 at 11:16 PM

    tuff you really need to look in the mirror a bit fella

  • 47 Offkey // Oct 21, 2015 at 11:18 PM

    Earlier this yer I got in a debate saying that we had played colo in defensive midfeild. No one on here agreed, well you were wrong.

    2011 he played as holding midfeilder in at least one game against Aston villa…..maybe more and he seemed clumsy to say the least…..we lost…..

    Maybe he has improved but……I doubt it, no to colo in midfeild

  • 48 Offkey // Oct 21, 2015 at 11:20 PM

    All you ‘true’ fans can’t remember stuff like that……pffft

  • 49 Offkey // Oct 21, 2015 at 11:22 PM

    Maybe you all weren’t at that game…….you must have had cold or summat and missed motd

  • 50 Offkey // Oct 21, 2015 at 11:23 PM

    Memory like my missus

  • 51 Munster Mag // Oct 21, 2015 at 11:26 PM

    Jib u should have no concerns re irish sports knowledge especially re football. You lot had to suffer muppets like Ian wright and gazza as analysts along with plenty more buffoons. Across the irish sea we were laughing at you, with a degree of sympathy.

  • 52 Mister Tuff // Oct 21, 2015 at 11:32 PM

    manx – don’t need your input, don’t need you to “pull up” Jib for his abuse ( you’ll have missed it no doubt or were crossing to road at the time) I can do the heavy lifting and have no qualms in commenting on filth and abuse – you’ll have missed that as well I suppose.

  • 53 manxpie // Oct 21, 2015 at 11:44 PM

    tuff the part about trolling is my point! plus you feed him every time its as tho you actually love him being on here its not just you of course theres a few that feed him and then go on saying how your fighting some shite NO YOU ARE NOT!!
    ya feeding him time and time again ffs

  • 54 Munster Mag // Oct 22, 2015 at 12:19 AM

    Who is this Jib bloke. Jib can u summarise who u are and describe yourself in terms of your toon support and history?

  • 55 jimmysmith // Oct 22, 2015 at 12:19 AM

    I think to successfully play DM in this Newcastle side you’d almost need to run about and put yourself about a bit more than Colo is likely capable. He might manage it in Spain or Italy for Juve or Sevilla, but in the the EPL, for us?

    I remember Colo playing there that one time, not clearly, but enough to know it didn’t really work and that he was a better proposition at the back.

    Santon was similar. Nice player, not enough hustle for the position. Who knows? It’s a different set of players and a different tactical approach, but you’d think at 33, and in this league, Colo is a centre back, and in his last season or two at this level.

  • 56 jimmysmith // Oct 22, 2015 at 12:20 AM

    almost certainly

  • 57 Tsunki // Oct 22, 2015 at 12:25 AM

    Man pie we’ve heard that argument before – ignore him and he’ll go away. Here’s a theory – no he won’t. Even if he was on here by himself he’d pick fault. it’s right that he’s called out for his inane rants. He is quite the turd, especially with half a gallon of clan dew inside him.

  • 58 Mister Tuff // Oct 22, 2015 at 12:26 AM

    manx – I understand the “don’t give them any oxygen argument ” but I do think it correct to highlight abuse and to respond to his daft post about the words wish and hope. Come on man you’d do the same – and fight your corner.
    Was it wrong for me to highlight a poster insulting another poster by use of the word mongoloid.
    Would you raise concerns about this -say for example if you had a Downs Syndrome sibling/relative – or say nothing. Come on honest answer.

  • 59 manxpie // Oct 22, 2015 at 12:30 AM

    munster please is that a joke? its not funny tbh
    i don’t get the stick colo is getting last game he was in the right position for there goal last game it was just a perfect ball plus good play by there striker people forget he also made a brilliant tackle on the edge of the box and a great block on near the post
    but i suppose willo isnt playing so e’s the next basher!

  • 60 Tsunki // Oct 22, 2015 at 12:31 AM

    Man pie ha ha there’s a vision sorry mate but it’s sooo funny 😀

  • 61 Tsunki // Oct 22, 2015 at 12:36 AM

    It’s true though colo may be many things but the stick is out of proportion.

  • 62 manxpie // Oct 22, 2015 at 12:40 AM

    tsunki oh okay then so how about turning up on the blog say a few hours later since he posted then bringing him up in a pointless post that “isn’t” the equivalent of trolling lol!

    have a look every bloody day it happens where is this ignoring ya speak off?

    i didnt see the “mongaloid” post and i agree that its way out of order but tell ED instead he can do something!
    and tuff as i say i didn’t see it but you are on every day kind of playing with him like your enjoying it thats why i said look in the mirror and look at your first post to me or when i was on today proper fishing like!

  • 63 manxpie // Oct 22, 2015 at 12:43 AM

    ya need to play innuendo bingo by the sounds of it tsunki you’d be shite at it tho

    wheres belfast gone btw the blog must be bad if he’s dissappeared! whos offended him like?

  • 64 Tsunki // Oct 22, 2015 at 12:47 AM

    Manxpie jeff is on all the time, ergo insulting someone all the time. Other posters who have an alternate life away from the blog can only reply to his personal insults when time allows. Anyway, it’s a blog, not a live helpline. Discussion takes place over extended threads of time, it’s the nature of it. I don’t see the problem in addressing an old issue if it’s an unresolved or persistent one.

  • 65 Tsunki // Oct 22, 2015 at 12:48 AM

    Don’t understand the innuendo bingo thing I must have missed that day.

    I also have been wondering where Belfast was nobody volunteering info though.

  • 66 Mister Tuff // Oct 22, 2015 at 12:49 AM

    manx – are you on about me suggesting a new breakaway group was being formed – come on man that was obviously not serious. I wouldn’t have put you in the “I want to be offended”/blog victim group.

  • 67 Tsunki // Oct 22, 2015 at 12:51 AM

    I think belfast and BandB had a bit of a hair pulling contest.

  • 68 manxpie // Oct 22, 2015 at 12:52 AM

    tsunki it is when its the same people over and over again thats my point man there is plenty that ignore him me included obviously and guess wat they don’t get involved in arguments that last days

    but theres a few that are constantly arguing with him some times days apart thats the ridiculous part

  • 69 Tsunki // Oct 22, 2015 at 12:54 AM

    Ah I see I remembered when I GOOGLED it! Yes Manxpie I would be ruddy awful at it I truly would.

  • 70 manxpie // Oct 22, 2015 at 12:59 AM

    tuff i’m not but you seem to have a pop every time me munster or mag are on at some point especially me tho and it wears thin like

    tsunki ya fill ya mouth with water and face each other and play clips of wat could be innuedoes of telly or radio and see who laughs and then obviously spits water over there opponent its on radio 1 lol

  • 71 Tsunki // Oct 22, 2015 at 1:02 AM

    Manxpie fair enough. But on the other side of the coin, if you do analyse his posts, you can appreciate how jarring and relentless he can be, especially to his favourite targets. The other night he (under the influence it appeared) came out with one of his Jeff Trademark insults by referencing me ( wrong poster unfortunately) as a “mongoloid” a term that is not just hopelessly outmoded and inappropriate but additionally a risky area to get into with somebody whose personal circumstances he knows nothing about. Now of course Jeff attributes his lapse to a mysterious hacker who went to all the trouble to hijack his account to make two spineless snipes, and then disappeared. But jeffs style is his finger print. Personally, not only do I think he is worthy of redress, but if it made life useless on here for him, the more the merrier.

  • 72 manxpie // Oct 22, 2015 at 1:04 AM

    ah right well they’ve both been missing not missed i might add but missing maybe jail after all this time has actually been chatting up belfast! own up belfast [they both begin with b!]

  • 73 manxpie // Oct 22, 2015 at 1:09 AM

    ok tsunki well for me if the likes of tuff or jail stopped addressing him it would make a difference infact i will email ed now and say its not right because its ruined the blog massiveley for a long time and i wont reply to the so and so…. so i just hope no one else will

  • 74 Mister Tuff // Oct 22, 2015 at 1:13 AM

    manx – really I do not think that is right about having a pop at you – that is just not true – every time you are on – no not having that it is plainly not true.

  • 75 optimistic prime // Oct 22, 2015 at 1:13 AM

    Colo as a DM that’s hilarious!

    A bloke who’ll rarely tackles as a defender and people think he’ll dominate a midfield and protect the back four.

    I’ll take a pint of what whoever came up with that bright ideas drinking.

  • 76 manxpie // Oct 22, 2015 at 1:33 AM

    tuff remember the “crowing”?
    or anything to do with pardew and the cigars?
    pardew lovers?
    i’ve stated my case many times on him and they’ve actually come true thats why i want to see why catchy doesn’t understand my mindset!
    bur come on tuff you cant help youself when the name pardew comes up

  • 77 Mister Tuff // Oct 22, 2015 at 1:38 AM

    manx – do you really believe that I think other posters are strutting backwards and forwards in front of their computers, crowing like cockerels, preening their feathers and smoking exploding cigars at the same time. Man you cannot be serious.

  • 78 manxpie // Oct 22, 2015 at 1:40 AM

    for anyone interested here is the email i’ve sent Ed

    Hi Ed I am having to email you as there is a problem poster on the blog who obviously has been on before in the name jeff he is now called jib and recently used very offensive language regarding disabled people and i have been informed it certainly isn’t the first time and that he is constantly on the look out for conflict or in the recent form “trolling”
    For me and many others he is ruining the blog and has done for some time i hope you can block him for now anyways as it ruins the reading especially of wat this blog is about

    Thanks if you can help,

    [and f off if theres spelling mistakes or grammer mistakes!] that is all you need to do instead of carrying on arguments and entertaining shits!

  • 79 Mister Tuff // Oct 22, 2015 at 1:41 AM

    manx – please tell me you don’t wear a chicken suit and smoke cigars!

  • 80 manxpie // Oct 22, 2015 at 1:44 AM

    tuff well put it this way you really don’t show much humour in your posts as in the sarcastic manner infact you come across as very pompous instead lol
    now i know on this kind of format its very hard to read context but you hide it very well

  • 81 manxpie // Oct 22, 2015 at 1:47 AM

    only at weekends tuff !

  • 82 Mister Tuff // Oct 22, 2015 at 1:55 AM

    manx – come on – most of my posts have a gag in them.

    And that’s me away to the pit.

  • 83 Reyantoon // Oct 22, 2015 at 4:54 AM

    I have always rated GK Elliott highly.Glad he signed a long term deal and deserves it because the lad is a good GK and has potential.Never let the team down when given the chance to play.I think he will do a decent job in the absence of Krul.What i like most about him is- his quick ball throwings or distribution.If he stays injury free,i think we have got a real deal behind the back 4.
    Liked the look of Toney as well.The lad looked calm and confident with good height at just 19.
    I think he is a good signing.Resembles shola Ameobi the way he plays i guess.
    McLaren should stick with the same starting 11
    that started against Norwich.Tiote & Dummett,
    who came back after long absence,haven’t done much wrong in the last game.So should start..
    Haven’t seen much of Sunderland game this season.They looked poor the way where they are on the table but always play well against us.
    It’s difficult game but we have momentum and a bit of confidence now.If we score first,i think we will hummer them.
    We fear no one from now on 🙂

  • 84 Jib // Oct 22, 2015 at 5:58 AM

    Truth be told I’ve feared no one since Man United away. I was truly fearful of us getting battered there , and we more than held our own.
    From then on it was obvious to anyone who knew anything about footy (not many on here like) that we had the foundations to make at least a top 10 side with some tweaking.

    Sundays game is going to be tough and what they used to euphemistically call “character building” – dirty , a good preparation for some of our new players for (hopefully) a good run in the FA cup , meeting sides with little skill , but much physicality.

  • 85 Reyantoon // Oct 22, 2015 at 6:30 AM

    Jib – very true.I feel the same way.Didn’t get the chance to see how we played at Swansea and westham away but we played quite well mostly from the games i saw.I started to feel positive after the Chelsea game.We still can make the top ten if we continue to play like that.Still disappointed the way we exited early in the league cup but started to feel relief like and encouraged after the Norwich game.If we show the same character and combinations that we showed against norwich on Sunday at our biggest rivals,surely our season will kick on more brightly..

  • 86 Thump // Oct 22, 2015 at 6:40 AM

    Seems those in glass houses are throwing stones again.

  • 87 Jib // Oct 22, 2015 at 6:46 AM

    Try talking about footy.
    It’s really quite easy.

  • 88 Jib // Oct 22, 2015 at 6:51 AM

    My feelings on the Sheff Wed debacle are that the club reverted to type and decided that with such a bad start we had to concentrate on the League , understandable really.
    Hopefully come the weekend of January 9th (the 3rd round of the FAC when EPL clubs enter) we will be in the frame of mind to give it a good go.

  • 89 Toonfan8 // Oct 22, 2015 at 6:54 AM

    This derby match will have a huge influence on our season, if we win there, we will gain great confidence….

  • 90 firebug666 // Oct 22, 2015 at 6:59 AM


    It’s a game we have to win, there can be no excuses this time, we know the team can play now, so they better produce the good on Sunday.

  • 91 catchy in norway // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:03 AM

    Jib Rey

    I too think that things have been changing for the good under Shteve , we now look like a team that is trying to create goals rather than rely on individual bits of skill, we now attack down both wings and through the center, before hand it was pretty much all down the right.

    Yes we still have a soft center ,but things will change in that department too, I don’t believe for one minute that Shteve sees colo as his no1 , I think he had to win the players over first and while colo was still there it was logical to keep him as captain, he has to much power , give Shteve one season to implement some football into the squad , get the players on his side , then colo will be gone, unless he has a dramatic change in form.

    Some things just need to be done a certen way, to achieve the result you want

  • 92 Toonfan8 // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:10 AM

    I know we have better team now then them, but it is huge game, it doesnt have favorites. I am confident, that we will win this game, and it will give us great confidence…we can kick on with this game

  • 93 Jib // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:12 AM

    If you stopped to think about it , it was clear that the Colo contract extension was more about club politics than anything else.
    When a new coaching regime starts,compromises have to be made in order to make the transition as smooth as possible.

  • 94 Reyantoon // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:14 AM

    Jib – true but the dissappointment is that we throwed in our strong eleven, if i remember correctly,and exited.If we had played fringes and lost,that ‘d have make a lot sense.

    You are spot on there @91 but i see you called Pardew S**t the other day 🙂

  • 95 SUTTY1978 // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:15 AM

    I think Carver would have got us more points than McClaren has.

  • 96 Jail for Ashley // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:16 AM

    Nobody knows expect a few of the inner circle, why our yellow bellied want away curly haired captain was given a contract extension rather than being shipped off back to play in front of the Pope.

  • 97 Jail for Ashley // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:17 AM

    That is a completely irrelevant point !

  • 98 catchy in norway // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:22 AM


    I think my views on Pardew are well documented on here, I think he is the worst manager we have ever had , he can not coach, or talk to the press, it’s more about a sharp suit and a pair of glasses to make look the part

  • 99 catchy in norway // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:23 AM


    That’s only what you think. 😉

  • 100 catchy in norway // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:23 AM


  • 101 Jail for Ashley // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:23 AM

    I think John Carver was the worst manager we ever had

  • 102 SUTTY1978 // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:25 AM

    Jail, agree but just putting it out there! People now seem to be rewriting history to suggest that we have been playing great football from the start of the season and that McClaren is working wonders. We’re on six points after nine games!
    We have had two good halves of football plus one good full game. That means we have had 14 bad halves of football out of 18.

  • 103 catchy in norway // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:25 AM


    I don’t class him as a manager, he was caretaker manager

  • 104 hibbitt // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:30 AM

    john carver should never have been offered the job never mind given it

  • 105 catchy in norway // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:31 AM


    I’m not rewriting history, but if you think that any new manager was going to come in and change the losing mentality that our club has instal a new winning one , change the style of play from a defensive to an attacking one , in the first 9 games against the teams we have played , u are a deluded man

  • 106 Jail for Ashley // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:36 AM

    Also fully agree, I said before the Norwich game that if we get four points from Norwich and the mackems we’ll be ok, it’ll still be a long hard season but we now know that we can beat the likes of Norwich, but people seem to forget that we are still very much in a relegation struggle with a quarter of the season gone, Schteve is implementing a new philosophy yatter yatter, W Ham have had long ball specialist FSA for a few years yet Billic has somehow passed on his style fairly quickly and effectively, lets hope it works out for Mclaren but lets not get carried away.

  • 107 Jail for Ashley // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:37 AM

    See Billic.

  • 108 hibbitt // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:41 AM

    i think if we had beat watford people would be looking at things much more positive that was the game most fans expected to win 9 points would be looking good to go into the sunderland game with

  • 109 Ron Knee // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:42 AM


    We also had luck on our side. Six shots at goal, six goals scored. How often does that happen in football? And how many times did Norwich hit the woodwork?

    I think we’re going to need similar luck against SAFC.

  • 110 hibbitt // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:45 AM

    ron thats ok the fat man says we now make our own luck……the elfs are working overtime

  • 111 Ron Knee // Oct 22, 2015 at 7:47 AM


    They need to!

  • 112 catchy in norway // Oct 22, 2015 at 8:02 AM


    Do you think West Ham were in the same situation as us ?. I don’t . Have West Ham had as many hard fixtures as us . I don’t think so.

  • 113 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 22, 2015 at 8:06 AM

    West Ham were just as bad as we were in the second half of last season. They have also beaten Arsenal, Man City and Liverpool so far this season – at least 2 away from home, but I think it was all three. Not exactly an easy start!

    Still, they made greater changes in overhauling the squad which allowed for greater opportunities to dispel a losing mentality.

  • 114 Jail for Ashley // Oct 22, 2015 at 8:09 AM

    West Ham were dire last season, funnily enough losing their last game to us, they have played long ball for the last three years by all accounts managed by a ‘hoof ball’ specialist and everybody has played nearly half the teams in the division.

  • 115 sing in the corner // Oct 22, 2015 at 8:09 AM

    Looking at the fixtures after the Watford setback, the Norwich and mackem games were always going to be the springboard. A win on Sunday or at the very least get a convincing performance if its a draw, and we can look forward to Sroke, Leicester, Bournemouth and Palace with confidence that theres some points to bag. I think we have to be brave and positive – put SAFC on the back foot, because we have to face it – our defence is woeful and we need to score goals.
    4-4-2 is the only way. Play to your strengths and let Sissoko, Wij Perez and Mitro off the leash.

  • 116 cyprus // Oct 22, 2015 at 8:11 AM

    I love it when the little guy sets lofty goals. People laughed early this year, on the national news, when people there reiterated their top 4 ambition. Really funny eh. Check the table 🙂

  • 117 cyprus // Oct 22, 2015 at 8:12 AM


  • 118 Ian Toon // Oct 22, 2015 at 8:14 AM

    Belfast – I hope you and yours are doing just fine. We can afford to shed a good number of contributors from the blog but your at the bottom of my list- for what it’s worth.

    Tsunki- I see you( and a few others) have singled out Jib for using unacceptable language in describing a poster. This was wholly offensive. Yet because a poster used ” arrested development” a while ago when describing a fellow poster it went unnoticed. In the context used it meant exactly the same thing. At the time I drew this to Ibiza’s attention as he appeared to be in tandem in his then posts with the party. I am all for playing the ball and not the man ( or woman!!) – how about you.
    I personally have not had a problem with Jib and neither have a good number of others. I am selective when I respond but equally am all for self regulation. Good to see a few having their wings clipped of late which is in everyone’s best interest.
    Don’t worry I don’t plan to become a regular poster.
    Sorry this wasn’t football related.

  • 119 catchy in norway // Oct 22, 2015 at 8:16 AM


    It was six shots on target , but I seen a few more shots blocked

  • 120 Ron Knee // Oct 22, 2015 at 8:23 AM


    That must have been when I was hiding behind the sofa!

  • 121 catchy in norway // Oct 22, 2015 at 8:23 AM

    Lil jail

    West Ham have had some good results, but we have to look and think we played well against Man U Chelsea Man C (first half) and took points off top teams, Arsenal we were doing ok until a man was sent off.

    I was happy with the way we played , and with a little bit of luck we could have taken more points from them games.

    For me the Swansea game is the only one we were well beaten in every department ,

    Watford just had better forwards on the day as both teams were poor

  • 122 Tsunki // Oct 22, 2015 at 8:27 AM

    Ian, the poster in question was me. And how nice that you haven’t been a target of jeffs random digs, you are one of a select few. Perhaps there’s a reason.

  • 123 Jib // Oct 22, 2015 at 8:37 AM

    Now here’s an interesting thought.

    Recently Schalke revealed that Newcastle had bid €18 million in summer for a defender , everyone assumed it was Joel Matip.

    Meanwhile in summer Arsenal and another unnamed club tried to activate Benedikt Höwedes release clause of £12.6 million (his contract is to June 2017).

    What if we were never after Matip and we are the other unnamed club ???

    Benni Höwedes is 27 , a regular in the German national side , can play anywhere in the back 4 and , makes John Terry look like a pussycat !!

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