Newcastle Could Suffer Shock Departure


Newcastle signed Florian Thauvin from Marseille over the summer for around £12M – and it was a surprising signing and  essentially in part exchange for Remy Cabella – who is currently on loan at Marseille.

But it was seen by many fans as a strange signing since Cabella and Thauvin were of the same build and fairly similar in their playing styles, and if Cabella didn’t make it why did Newcastle think Thauvin would make it?

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Florian Thauvin – in action at Old Trafford

Cabella has now played 9 times for Marseille and once he plays 12 games the deal is automatically made – and Remy would be transferred to Marseille permanently in January – that’s going to happen.

The fee is said to be around £6M – half of what Newcastle are paying for Thauvin.

Steve McClaren did say the reason Newcastle signed Thauvin was for his crossing ability and we saw some of that that skill in the early games, but he’s not been able to retain his first team place and like Cabella is inconsistent when he plays.

Florian has made 7 appearances for Newcastle with one goal and three assists but they came against Northamtpon Town in the League Cup which we won 4-1.

There’s a report in Mercato365 that suggests that his time with the Magpies could already be coming to an early end, but there’s no way this lad will be leaving in January.

First of all it’s far too early and with Newcastle coming into some form now (hopefully) then it will be much easier for Florian to find his feet on the pitch.

The other thing is he cannot leave in January and play for another club, because he’s already played for two teams and would face the same restrictions Ben Arfa faced last January at Nice.

Ben Arfa had already played for the Newcastle U21 side and Hull City and that was two clubs according to FIFA, which was simply ridiculous – a Newcastle reserve side shouldn’t have counted – but the Frenchman was not allowed to play at Nice until this season.

Ben Arfa also seems to be making up for lost time this season at the south of France club.

But we certainly haven’t given up on Florian and he’s a talented player and also seems to have the right attitude.

He needs to be supported and it’s up to Steve McClaren and the rest of the Newcastle coaches to start to get the best out of him.

That’s very possible.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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123 comments so far

  • BeeGuy

    Oct 21, 2015 at 5:59 PM

    Comment #1

    The guy needs some muscle to play in the EPL. He should be in the weight room every day, bulking up, so he does not get pushed off the ball.

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  • beefman13

    Oct 21, 2015 at 6:00 PM

    Comment #2

    This kid Thauvin needs to see 100 psychiatrists, wrap him in cotton wool, say prayers for him at the cathedral, and feed him grapes with the help of a local Virgin.

    This may do the trick, we have to look after our heroes on 40g’s a week.

    Unbelievable!

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  • Thump

    Oct 21, 2015 at 6:00 PM

    Comment #3

    There’s a report in Mercato365

    Ah, a reliable source.

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  • Bambams

    Oct 21, 2015 at 6:00 PM

    Comment #4

    I just wish this kid was quicker. Far too early to judge znd he is not a defensive type player so will find it easier to show what he can do when team is playing with confidence
    I still think SDJ will have a huge part to play in this team. The bloke for whatever reason has not reached full fitness yet and he cannot be judged yet. He is a class act, top top player.
    With him, Wini, Aarons and the two up front we would create. Problem is we can’t play too many offensive players due to our very weak defence.
    Imo

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  • Sliema

    Oct 21, 2015 at 6:03 PM

    Comment #5

    Can’t believe how many people have already written this lad off. I’ll admit it looks like a bit of a strange one paying this much for him after his poor season… but he is here now and we should see how he fares over the course of the season rather than his handful of minutes to date.

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  • Sliema

    Oct 21, 2015 at 6:06 PM

    Comment #6

    Similarly I have seen a few people writing off SDJ on this blog. Show some patience ffs.

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  • goommy

    Oct 21, 2015 at 6:13 PM

    Comment #7

    I think he just need time to blend with PRM. Don’t know, maybe I just keep supporting him and SDJ for time being.

    Time will tell..

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  • croftus5678

    Oct 21, 2015 at 6:30 PM

    Comment #8

    i’m far from writing off thauvin myself as he’s allready proved what he’s capable of with us when he played against northampton when he scored 1 goal and had 3 assists and could have easily been 4 if perez was to have scored !

    so 6 games 1 goal 3 assists as a player who’s yet to get used to the prem aint too bad imo.

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  • croftus5678

    Oct 21, 2015 at 6:34 PM

    Comment #9

    @6 sliema

    i’m suspect of writing off siem tbh !

    i was a big fan of the lad also as smart players are hard to come bye but siem’s just let me down after such a promising start before his injury.

    your right though i shouldnt be so quick to condemn as i’d soon be making myself look a fool if he does hit form.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Oct 21, 2015 at 6:35 PM

    Comment #10

    I think there is deffo question marks over him and SDJ. I’d love to say im confident they will come good but im no where near.

    When I look at Montero, Ayew or Payet im gutted to be honest. Obviously wages come into it which we wouldn’t pay and that is the difference.

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  • Munster Mag

    Oct 21, 2015 at 6:54 PM

    Comment #11

    Get rid of thauvin. Little straight line pace. Probably wont defend. Bye bye. Sdj…..i think he is too brittle but hope for best

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  • Reyantoon

    Oct 21, 2015 at 6:54 PM

    Comment #12

    Mitrovic scored typical world class goal on Saturday,as beauty as the one he scored agt City.Started to show what he is capable of doing and how important he’s upfront.Just needs more of those type of balls from wijnaldum,
    Sissoko and the like.Glad that he started to prove them wrong (criticizers and moaners) and slams their mouth shut!!

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  • will die for the toon army

    Oct 21, 2015 at 7:11 PM

    Comment #13

    Toon- Prodigy

    Montero and Ayew have u guys watched Swansea lately. Payet may b he is a very good player. But with wat we have signed in the last 2 seasons these are upcoming players who will get good with tye right coaching.

    De Jong, Colback, Cabella, Thauvin, Wijnaldum, Mitrovic, Colback, Ayoze, Janmatt, Mbemba, Rivere.

    Those were good signings and jst needed a good coach. let’s hope in Mcca, Cathro and Simpson they have one.

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  • check the toastie

    Oct 21, 2015 at 7:12 PM

    Comment #14

    Thauvin looked the real deal when we went down to ten men against Arsenal, a lot stronger than Cabella, hopefully he comes good.

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  • check the toastie

    Oct 21, 2015 at 7:16 PM

    Comment #15

    we just need rid of collo and get in a top class holding midfielder and we could go places. plus a keeper on loan, Elliot is gash. If we had a Tiote from four years ago, Wijnaldum could play ACM, unfortunately he is now hopeless.

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  • SUTTY1978

    Oct 21, 2015 at 7:17 PM

    Comment #16

    Croftus, the problem with your positive assessment of Thauvin is that we don’t play in league two. We could have picked from a long list of players to splash that last 8 figure sum on and we chose a crappy player who was horrendously poor in a week league. I’d have struggled to see it as a good deal if we had got him on a free.
    The problem is that just like Obertan he will be stuck here for five years taking up a squad space and wages and offering nothing in return.

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  • cyprus

    Oct 21, 2015 at 7:18 PM

    Comment #17

    SDJ will have a ‘huge part’?

    That’s like really big, right? Right now I just hope he plays a part- any positive part

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  • sparky55

    Oct 21, 2015 at 7:20 PM

    Comment #18

    Wasn’t Mbabu bought by newcastle as centre half???

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  • croftus5678

    Oct 21, 2015 at 7:29 PM

    Comment #19

    @18 sparky

    yes he’s a cb

    @16 sutty

    aye i know and i’m just as confused as you about why we signed him tbh ! tbf though if we went back 2-3 years when at bastia we prob would not have had a chance at a player with his promise.

    hopefully he’s a late bloomer…i just think its unfair on him to be judged on a few games when the likes of ober who’s been here a lot longer should be way ahead of him in the dole cue imo.

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  • GeordieTwo

    Oct 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM

    Comment #20

    Sunderland’s squad looks really weak. Their owner has really let them fall apart. I think we can beat them this time. 😀

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  • beefman13

    Oct 21, 2015 at 8:10 PM

    Comment #21

    I hope Thauvin proves us all wrong I really do.

    Anyway I see Mbabu as a terrific utility player across the back four, I’ve always liked Aarons but this injury thing with him is just to frustrating for words.

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  • firebug666

    Oct 21, 2015 at 8:12 PM

    Comment #22

    I am quietly confident of a win on Sunday, thinking maybe 2 or 3 nil, it’s about time we kept a clean sheet.

    Figure Mitrovic and Perez will be in on the goals again, Mitrovic creates a lot of space when making his runs, taking defenders with him.

    If Sissoko is on form again they could be in for a thrashing.

    Hopefully!

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Oct 21, 2015 at 8:33 PM

    Comment #23

    Check
    I’d prefer to try Colo as a holding midfielder. His current skill set seems far better suited than as a CB.

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  • SUTTY1978

    Oct 21, 2015 at 8:34 PM

    Comment #24

    Croftus, unfortunately he’s an early bloomer rather than a late bloomer. He’s already has his peak, it’s been and gone. Would have had no complaints if we had bought him from Bastia, that would have been a risk worth taking on a player who looked like he could be a future world beater.
    The crazy thing is that we bought him for more money at a later point where he had already proved he was just a flash in the pan player.
    When you look at the quality of the other players we bought in the summer it makes it even more annoying. Love Mitro Gini & Mbemba and wanted them here as soon as we were linked. With Thauvin it’s the polar opposite.

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  • TroubledToon

    Oct 21, 2015 at 8:51 PM

    Comment #25

    There goes Ed again with another Diva headline 😀

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  • martoon

    Oct 21, 2015 at 9:00 PM

    Comment #26

    I know I’m biased but I’d much rather have our squad than the makems. I was trying to think of any of their squad I would take and I can only think of two Lens and Defoe. Any other suggestions?

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  • Mag52

    Oct 21, 2015 at 9:13 PM

    Comment #27

    I think we’ve got to say the jury is still out as yet on Thauvin.
    Recollecting some of the comments about Sissoko in the weeks leading up to the Norwich game, there are some on here who would have seen him out of SJP in the blink of an eye. Hopefully he’s now going to crack on and show us how good he really is.
    Thauvin is a young man playing in front of the biggest crowds in his career in what is reputedly the toughest league. I’d give him longer to settle in.

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  • beefman13

    Oct 21, 2015 at 9:21 PM

    Comment #28

    Troubled Toon, ive always thought Colo would be a v good defensive midfielder, Dummett and Mbemba centre halfs, sacrifice either colback or Anita for Colo, freshen it up, Mbabu left back and Janmatt right back. to many teams i think are now targeting Colo as a weak link.

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  • Jib

    Oct 21, 2015 at 9:22 PM

    Comment #29

    Ha ha ha
    Munster wants Thauvin down the road after minutes of playing time in the EPL.
    You’ve got to love Irish sports knowledge.
    A song for you Munster here

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  • MadisonToon

    Oct 21, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    Comment #30

    Quite the performance on Sunday, what I was hoping for but not expecting. I do think it would have been a game where we could have given Thauvin a bit of a run out to improve his confidence and let him at a defense that’s scared and liable to give him some extra space. However, with Sissoko and Gini in the form they were in last game it would have been some tough love to take them off.

    I agree with the above posters, Thauvin hasn’t been given enough time or opportunities to prove himself yet. He showed what he is capable of against Northamton Town. He can do it, he’s just adjusting to the PL. Keep him in the weight room for a while and convince him of the importance of strength to complement trickery and we could have quite the player. If we let him think his trickery is enough and that he’s just being unlucky then we will have HBA 2.0 on our hands…all down to coaching. I loved what HBA could do on his day, but his prima donna attitude was never going to work. It’s one of the things I dislike the most about the current professional soccer attitude and not something that has any place at SJP.

    Anyway, I digress, so let’s keep the faith with Thauvin through the season and let him adjust, he’s still young and has room to grow and make this move come good.

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  • catchy in norway

    Oct 21, 2015 at 9:44 PM

    Comment #31

    Well for what it’s worth, I believe both florian and remy Both have a future at SJP, it’s hard to judge cabella with a shyt coach like p45 guiding him.

    We have options and once this squad gets there confidence back, we will fly up the table

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  • SUTTY1978

    Oct 21, 2015 at 9:46 PM

    Comment #32

    He was crap in France, it is nothing to do with adjusting to the premier league.
    If we buy a player who is very good in another league then I’m always willing to give them time. All he is shown is that he looks good against league two players. I’d be happy if he comes good but there is no chance.

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  • JAMSHA

    Oct 21, 2015 at 9:58 PM

    Comment #33

    wont bother if thauvin goes, never wanted him, overrated, i knew he would be a waste

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Oct 21, 2015 at 10:06 PM

    Comment #34

    As for Sissoko, it will take more than one good performance against Norwich to sway me into thinking he is an amazing player.

    Even Obertan has had decent games now and again.

    You have to be very near to consistent for this league, it’s no good showing up when you feel up to it or when your lucky.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Oct 21, 2015 at 10:10 PM

    Comment #35

    Don’t know if many saw the FA response in respect of the news that Platini was being investigated. Here it is below:-

    “The FA supports the statement issued by UEFA on Thursday 15 October concerning the ethics case against Michel Platini.

    This statement expressed respect for the significant work performed by Mr Platini at UEFA, requested that he be afforded due process in contesting the charges, and encouraged the relevant bodies involved to reach a final decision on the merits of the case by mid-November.

    The FA wishes Mr Platini every success in fighting these charges and clearing his name, and has no interest in taking any action that jeopardises this process.

    However, notwithstanding the above, at the UEFA meeting on Thursday, The FA learnt more information relating to the issues at the centre of this case from Mr Platini’s lawyers.

    We have been instructed that the information must be kept confidential and therefore we cannot go into specifics.

    As a result of learning this information, The FA Board has on Friday morning concluded that it must suspend its support for Mr Platini’s candidature for the FIFA Presidency until the legal process has been concluded and the position is clear.

    A decision can then be taken on who to support in the Presidential election on 26 February 2016.”

    The area of contention, which I think is outrageous and shows how out of touch the FA are is the third paragraph – where they wish Mr Platini every success in fighting the charges and clearing his name.
    Surely they should not be taking sides at the commencement of this investigation by supporting Platini. Surely they should have said something along the lines of supporting the investigation and hoping that if anything untoward was established then justice should take it’s course.
    But hoping that Platini clears his name suggests that they think he’s innocent and wrongly accused.
    in my opinion shows how useless the FA are. They are going to look a bit daft if he is found to be corrupt. And these tools are doing this in the name of English football. They need investigating and the lot of em cleared out.

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  • Roosta

    Oct 21, 2015 at 10:10 PM

    Comment #36

    Come on Thauvin, most Toon fans only dream about playing on the hallowed turf at SJP, if you get another chance take it and go for it, fans already have you down as a bit of a show pony, you have been Pony up until now except for one league cup game, its up to you son.

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  • MadisonToon

    Oct 21, 2015 at 10:12 PM

    Comment #37

    @34

    Very true. He does so little some games. He has the potential but he’s too old for us to be talking about his potential.

    @32

    ‘Crap in France’ is one way to rate a winger with 23G/14A in 101 matches who was 18-21 during that time. Ligue 1 is certainly no PL, but if we got a goal every four games from our wingers that would be 9-10 for the season and a very reasonable contribution IMO from a winger. Differences in league quality, sure, but you have to expect improvement with age and I think his acquisition wasn’t a bad move. Time will tell, but that seems like a harsh assessment given his career so far.

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  • jimmysmith

    Oct 21, 2015 at 10:16 PM

    Comment #38

    We have a few players who might do well at a senior club. I don’t blame Sissoko overly for not shining week to week. He’s a good player, but we’ve never had enough of them, and the ones we’ve had have often carried the can. I don’t think Sissoko, or Colo are the problem as much as we could do with three or four more of similar calibre, and always have done under Ashley.

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  • Munster Mag

    Oct 21, 2015 at 10:22 PM

    Comment #39

    Logically, there is nothing to suggest that we will see Sissoko play well every week. He hasnt approached that type of consistency and unless SMC is a genius, he wont so lets relax about him. I hope I’m wrong re Thauvin because he started better than Cabella, but I took a negative view on Obertab, Santon, Mbiwa and Marveaux and have no reason to think I was wrong. Perhaps Thauvin can be a player for home games , but against fast full backs away from home ( eg West Ham ) , he looked both slow and fairly disinterested.

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  • Jib

    Oct 21, 2015 at 10:29 PM

    Comment #40

    Mr Tuff nowhere in that statement do the FA say they “HOPE” for anything !!!

    Wishing someone success is not the same as saying they hope they win.

    At the RWC in South Africa , Nelson Mandela wished both sides success , but he only hoped for a Boks victory .

    You need some English comprehension lessons me lad.

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