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Is This Newcastle’s Best Team Against Sunderland?

4:17 pm, Saturday, October 24th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 153 Comments

All three of our left backs are now fit again – so Steve McClaren will have to choose between Paul Dummett, Sadio Haidara and Kevin Mbabu, who started at left back in the previous two games against Chelsea and Manchester City.

Paul Dummett started the last game against Norwich where he lasted until the second half when Sadio replaced him.

kevin mbabu

Kevin Mbabu – in at left back?

Steve McClaren will be tempted to start the same side that played well last week at home to Norwich in the 6-2 win and we think that’s exactly what he will do.

However, we would love to see Kevin Mbabu return at left back.

There is also a choice to be made in defensive midfield as to who starts there – and it’s between Cheick Tiote – who started last time out – and the reliable Vurnon Anita, who came on at half-time for Cheick and Anita had a good game.

This is the team we hope that starts tomorrow at the Stadium fo Light in a 4-4-1-1 formation.

Janmaat Mbemba Coloccini (c) Mbabu
Sissoko Colback Tiote Wijnaldum
Subs: Woodman Dummett Lascelles Anita de Jong Cisse Thauvin

What would your team be for Sunderland?

Comments welcome.

Tags: Coaching · Newcastle News · Other News · Premier League

153 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Thump // Oct 24, 2015 at 4:27 PM

    Dummet or Haidara will start, not Mbabu.

  • 2 Mister Tuff // Oct 24, 2015 at 4:40 PM

    Could be a good weekend – victory for us tomorrow and a defeat -hopefully – for Palace -should silence the last remnants of the pro Percy Brigade – well at least some temporary respite may be had before they wind themselves up again.

  • 3 quadrapole // Oct 24, 2015 at 4:43 PM

    Tiote will be a liability in this game, was not a big fan of Anita but I think give him enough games and he could be a great player for NUFC

  • 4 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 4:48 PM

    You’ll never see the back of the Pardew-in-crew Tuff

  • 5 toonking // Oct 24, 2015 at 4:51 PM

    If we can beat the scums sunday and west brom hold on today i’d say myself bottom 2 this season could be taken by both villa and scums. avioding 17th could require more points than ever team, if they continue like they are chelsea could be in it!

  • 6 toonking // Oct 24, 2015 at 4:53 PM

    you won’t see the back of the anti pardew crew either, antient seemed to like looking at a palace twitter account as though he was a palace fan

  • 7 nufc 11 // Oct 24, 2015 at 4:54 PM

    It would be a brave choice but I’d take colo out and put dummet at cb and play colo/moussa with tiote mbabu at rb colback lb and jannmat rm to protect mbabu gini will protect collack far more solid team something to think about eh?

  • 8 Mister Tuff // Oct 24, 2015 at 4:54 PM

    sutty – accepted it will be hard to once and foreall to purge even the slightest thought of King Percy – Gods work is never done.
    Aye bloody good riddance to the eel pie brigade.

  • 9 toonking // Oct 24, 2015 at 4:55 PM

    If anti pardew crew were so happy to finally see the back of him why do they now seem to be posting so much about pardew and the palace games which are being lost, ANTI PARDEW FANS ARE EMBASSED

  • 10 toonking // Oct 24, 2015 at 4:56 PM

    The reason they emarressed because of ANOTHER CRAP MANAGER

  • 11 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 4:59 PM

    Toonking, what word are you grasping for there??

  • 12 toonking // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:00 PM

    all in all leister were the sh1t team because i could have been in with a shot of winning 5k had they scored another goal swansea themselves were too good as they scored 1 goal too many.

  • 13 nufc 11 // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:02 PM

    mbabu,mbema,dummet, colback,
    jannmat moussa, Tiote/Anita, gini,
    perez, mitro

  • 14 toonking // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:03 PM


    It works both ways the anti pardew crew hated it when the talk was about he’d done as good as anyone would do, we don’t appoint decent managers and tis eam isn’t as good as made out but when the anti pardew stuff is getting posted why wouldn’t we be debating our wn opinions?

  • 15 Shadow_Shearer // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:10 PM

    Pardew gets over hyped, espically by media when he wins encase he’s English. Every toon fan knew years ago he is Tactically clueless

  • 16 croftus5678 // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:11 PM

    hairdryer lb and mbabu and mbemba at cb ! if only 🙁

    go for a back 5 and forget the dm.


  • 17 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:18 PM

    I like a good pro/anti Pardew argument, they’re good fun.
    Fact is that Ashley doesn’t appoint good managers. Pardew was a league one chancer. Carver was an absolute no mark, McClaren is a championship chancer. Not sure why anyone would vehemently stick up for anyone who has been manager at the toon recently.
    Theres always a hope for some of us that Charnley (as it’s he who decides now) will appoint someone who lives up to our desires and expectations. I don’t sit in the better the devil you know camp.

  • 18 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:22 PM

    Regarding team selection, i wouldnt want to drift too much away from what played against Norwich. We won and we attacked well. Keeping a stable team will see better team performances. Just hope we play the same formation and players at home and away. Never understand the mentality of playing differently just because it’s in a different stadium, makes no sense.

  • 19 Munster Mag // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:25 PM

    Sutty i was always in the ” stop blaming pardew for everything bar the tyneside rain” brigade. He’s a mid table middling manager, not a crap one. What i laugh at, were the guys who said he would relegate them last season. I don’t remember any of them being big enough to admit they called it wrong. For the record, again, i’m glad he’s gone. But i am far more glad that carver was sacked!

  • 20 toonking // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:27 PM

    shadow shearer.

    KK a hopefully good one walks out

    dennis wise was an awful appointment

    JFK was a crap manager

    shearer wasn’t suite for managment

    chris hughton was only here for a year and a half before getting sacked due to likely arguements with cashley and has went on to only manage championship teams

    derek lambsarse was a stupid appointment onto the board

    JFK was a stupid appointment onto the board AGAIN

    charnley was a stupid appointment.

    pardew isn’t hyped he’s quite simply the best of what we call yes men.

    I want decent manager not these yes men and unless you’ve got belief in ashley then yes men is all we’ll get so we’re generally stuck and might as well accept the rest until we can enforce out that man right at the top called cashley.

  • 21 Munster Mag // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:28 PM

    Sutty smc has far more about him than pardew. Much greater international contacts too and far greater respect abroad

  • 22 Mister Tuff // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:30 PM

    There is a point that as King Percy is no longer here – why debate anything about him – however the pro Percy Brigade keep extolling his non existent qualities.
    So on that basis an infrequent and mature debate about King Percy between the different groups is healthy and is a debate I like to partake in. So let’s have a debate -pro Percy Brigade -where are yee ya bastards yee kna who yeez are.

  • 23 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:32 PM

    NUFC 11

    I like that team!

  • 24 Hail Wor Ashley // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:38 PM

    Don’t recall anybody ever saying Pardew would immediately relegate Palace, on the contrary, most said he will do very well initially, then a slow descent before they’re either relegated within 2 or 3 seasons or habitually fighting relegation battles. Ya’ know, like his entire career pattern to date.

    We’ll finish above Palace this season.

  • 25 toonking // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:40 PM


    you might not be so bothered and happy enough to have a pro/anti pardew debate but it’s when people like our toon are twisting every week a positive pardew point is made and go on to saw “go support palace” when at the same time hardly anyone seems to against a negative pardew opinion.

    My biggest hope when he was gone and carver then mac was appointed is this would show a crap is more likely to get appointed and I wasn’t talking like someone who rated pardew like a decent manager, it was shown clearest of all that season we’d been fighting relegation and them made even clearer when he’d kept him after those two stupid incidents on the side of the pitch.

  • 26 Jail for Ashley // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    There was about five seriously anti Pardew posters on here who blamed everything on him, the majority of us new what the bifgest problem was. But you simply can not excuse his time here and we’d still be in the same boring rut if he was still here, ffs why are you so passionate about sticking up for him, was it the fake glasses.
    For the record, given his past history I did say he’d relegate Palace immediately and was wrong, big deal.

  • 27 toonking // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:50 PM


    Why the fcuk are you only every complaining at one like munster?

    Start twisting to those like antient and tuff who decided to kick all this off

  • 28 Mister Tuff // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    Munster – not accusing but do you eat eel pie and do you own a pearly king suit.

  • 29 Goofy // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    Maybe a bit ironic coming from me but maaann that Gabriels got some amount of teeth 😀

  • 30 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:55 PM

    Munster, as I said Pardew is a league one chancer, McClaren is a Championship chancer. He’s a slight upgrade on Pardew. My biggest fear was that he would play the same brand of negative football and that definitely how we started the season crap 4231 at least he can see when things don’t work, Pardew ploughed on with that regardless, unwilling to change unless forced.
    One of the funniest/most annoying was during his phase of playing Cisse whose only attribute is as a poacher on the right wing. Ba got sold and instead of putting Cisse back to playing up front he played Shola and kept Cisse on the wing because that where Cisse had played in training during the week!
    His conversion of every player in the squad into either a defensive midfielder or left back was also one of my personal highlights of his reign as King!

  • 31 Munster Mag // Oct 24, 2015 at 5:57 PM

    Well at least you are big enough to admit you called it wrong jail. I believe in fairness and the criticism of him went beyond fair because he cudnt win with many here, no matter what. And believe me there were more than 5 blokes here. I also think the sackpardew campaign made us look stupid to the media given the surge at palace under him when he went there. But as i have said many many times he was no genius, although he was compromised here by ashley etc. He should have resigned but he got a beautiful career and family move so fair play to him. Im glad he is gone but wud have preferred a more broad minded replacement of him.

  • 32 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:00 PM

    Regardless of the hate tinted or rose tinted (fake) glasses everyone wears when viewing Pardew who would you prefer here as Manager

    1. Pardew
    2. McClaren

  • 33 Jail for Ashley // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:04 PM

    You’re wrong there, what made us look stupid was the failure to appoint a decent manager n line with the tenth best supported club in Europe, had we have got in someone to move us forward people wouldn’t be saying he’s done well at Palace, they’d be saying you’re flying now without him

  • 34 Munster Mag // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:05 PM

    Some good criticism there sutty. I don’t know why he didnt play 442 with ba and cisse. I have to laugh though because guys were killing him here even when we were doing well. Another unfair criticism was that he was ungracious. Thats crap too. After defeats he often praised the opposition unlike sam wenger hughes fergie and most others. It doesnt count for much but he was always hammered irrespective. Thats whats unfair imo. He did have some cracking excuses though. Blamjng the senegal FA for cisse being crap was laughable and i said that at the time.

  • 35 Jail for Ashley // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:08 PM

    My favourite was the grass being too long on a third division Scottish club’s pitch, or was it blaming the fans for egging us on to score, mmm it might have been the one where he said we’re at a disadvantage because the local youth are thick……

  • 36 Jail for Ashley // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:10 PM

    Would you rather have Chlamydia or Gonorrhoea ?

  • 37 Munster Mag // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:12 PM

    But thats spilt milk jail. We made a massive internet play to get him out and then he saves palace. I know what u are saying but the vast vast majority of fans i know, in ireland and england said we looked like spoiled brats who were demanding european football and not getting it. So we scream for our mid table boss to get sacked. Anyway gotta go fellas good talking to ye

  • 38 welshgeordie9 // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:12 PM

    Pardew to Carver to Mcclaren, yeah well done.

  • 39 Jail for Ashley // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:12 PM

    Yes, Munster fairplay to him, him and his boss treat us to shite for four years so he could get his dream move, well done Alan, top man, nice old chap, any time !

  • 40 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:13 PM

    Munster, he didnt play the two uptop because as I said he loved his 4231 even if it meant (and it usually did) shoehorning everyone into position they were not used to.
    I think the thing that used to get on everyones tits was that he had his favourites who were undroppable regardless of how badly they were playing. I will say he was obviously a decent pitchside manager in terms of motivating the team, that was shown when he was banned for nutting Meyler and Carver came in for seven games in which we were panned left right and centre.
    Slight Pardew positive to end on there!

  • 41 Jail for Ashley // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:13 PM

    Yes we demand European football, we’re the tenth best supported club in Europe !

  • 42 Munster Mag // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:14 PM

    Sutty i would take smc easily

  • 43 Lindisfarne // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:14 PM

    Mbabu – slight doubt
    Haidara – available along with Dummett for LB slot

  • 44 Lindisfarne // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:17 PM

    A win tomorrow and we will be out of the relegation places.

  • 45 Munster Mag // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:17 PM

    Well maybe a reality check is needed then jail but u know that i think.

  • 46 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:19 PM

    As I said it’s a good bit of banter this pro/anti Pardew lark!

    So Welsh, you would prefer Percy over McClaren I take it. Is that on the basis of the fact you think the football is better under Pardew or that we would finish higher in the league? Serious question.

  • 47 Lindisfarne // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:21 PM

    “”The visitors have now scored only four goals in their last six league games and, before they fell behind, they were restricted to an ambitious long-range effort from Yohan Cabaye.”” BBC match report

    Ring any bells?!

  • 48 jane // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:24 PM

    a narrow defeat to Leicester is no shame nor is 6th position in the league. credit where credit is due. people mention embarrassing things Pardew did but Mourinho and Wenger have a history of antics too.

  • 49 goommy // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:24 PM

    LB – Haidara
    DCM – Mbabu

  • 50 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:25 PM

    I don’t think anyone was demanding Europe when Pardew was here, we were just craving a bit of decent football, less absolute hammerings and maybe a Derby win once in a while. Lets see if McClaren can tick one of those off tomorrow.
    We’ve had a hammering of Man City so cant give him any plus points on that side
    We have played some decent football and more goals in one game than a Pardew team in his four years here but I’m not ticking that one off.

    The fact is that if we had employed someone like Tuchel there would have been a massive feelgood factor going into the season. That alone would have seen us pick up another 6-8 points over what we have.

  • 51 Lindisfarne // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:27 PM

    Gudjohnsen / Heskey / Ameobi

    Niel Lennons OAP Army!

    “”A combination of aerial ability and an eye for a pass rendered Ameobi a menace.”” Guardian match report

    Go on Son!

  • 52 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:27 PM

    Jane. I don’t remember seeing Wenger put the nut on anyone or shove a match official or call a respected manager a c**t. He might have called Pardew one but that’s fair game!

  • 53 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:32 PM

    Lindi, surely not Eidur Gudjohnson? Didn’t know he was still playing, let alone at Bolton!

  • 54 toonking // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:32 PM

    sutty i’d take mac most days but not at the time he was appointed, he should have been appointed back when we first lost pardew allowing him the time to get use to his surrounding and coming in at a time where fans were most interested in next season. Coming in during the summer time he’d needed to get a couple of wins because fans themselves were now sick of the run they had and wan’t to see a team more like a top 10 then a relegation battler. His most difficult issue at as manager of us is knowing we’d have put his england record ahead of all else and that was an awful one and it’s team was very defensive.

    I was over relieved with that 6-2 win against norwich last week and having finished as a score line like it did it should give us a chance of getting ourselves atleast a draw against the scums and even if we don’t get a point there fans will have some belief in mac knowing we’d just got a 6 -2 win at home, had we lost against norwich next monday might have been the most negative day even known on this blog.

  • 55 welshgeordie9 // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:37 PM


    We played better football under Pardew and we would probably still finish higher, wish Pardew had the same kind of funds Mcclaren is going to get with this three transfer window plan.

  • 56 jane // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:39 PM

    Wenger has had his moments, didn’t he kick a water bottle?

  • 57 Shadow_Shearer // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:40 PM

    My favourite pardew excuse, is when he said something like.
    “Only reason we didnt play well was the opposition didn’t let us”

  • 58 toonking // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:44 PM


    wenger himself has had some very bad moments at times. Once a player who picker up the ball asked wenger what to do “decide for yourself, why don’t you think it out.

    His most controversial moment happened whenhe’d made some threatening behavior to a ref, he was suspended 10 games and fined 4 weeks wages.

  • 59 Lindisfarne // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:44 PM


    He was playing there last season, now in China.

  • 60 welshgeordie9 // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:45 PM


    Every manager comes out with an excuse not just Pardew, mourinho comes out with one every match, blames everything and everyone apart from himself, fergie as well when things weren’t going his way.

  • 61 check the toastie // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:46 PM

    welsh – you clearly have dementia of sorts regards pardew, worst negative football I’ve ever witnessed in ground. total plank Percy

  • 62 welshgeordie9 // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:47 PM

    I hope tomorrow’s match is just as good as this one tonight, arsenal look very good when they attack.

  • 63 welshgeordie9 // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:50 PM

    Negative football that every season we do well against the top teams, how many times have we beaten Chelsea at home, beaten them away, beat Man city away, beat Man Utd at old Trafford, beaten Liverpool at home, oh yeah I’ve got terrible memory me.

  • 64 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:51 PM

    Welsh, do you seriously think we played better football under Pardew? Wow.

  • 65 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:52 PM

    Jane, that’s brilliant! Is the water bottle alright now, was there any permanent damage?

  • 66 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:54 PM

    Welsh, that really was a big part of the problem, he managed to get the team up for games like that but would the lose to reading, fulham, villa, swansea etc.

  • 67 welshgeordie9 // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:55 PM

    Twice in the row before Pardew left, we were in the top half by january and finished in the bottom half by the end of the seasons if only Ashley given Pardew more money to in invest in both of the January’s windows then we would have finished in the top twice not bottom but of course Ashley didn’t.

  • 68 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 6:58 PM

    Toonking, yep the 6-2 has bought him a bit of time.
    I think most people were hoping for a clean break from the previous and many including myself saw McClaren as a continuation instead of a change. A loss against Norwich followed by defeat tomorrow would be curtains for him.

  • 69 Jail for Ashley // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:00 PM

    welshgeordie9 spent his first few months on here being very anti Pardew in between winding people up, once his juvenile brain realised there was more mileage in getting a rise pretending to be pro Pardew he started with that, the kid is a complete waste of space with absolutely no interest in the club other than because of Ed’s efforts has the best blog/chatroom on t web. He’s a fcukin idiot!

  • 70 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:00 PM

    Welsh, on the other end of that argument is why could Pardew only motivate the team for half a season?

  • 71 croftus5678 // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:00 PM

    i dont see the point in the pard’s debate tbh !

    its like saying who’s better shearer or cole ! they are not our current players/manager so why cry over spilt milk as the saying goes.

    pards had his good times and his very bad times but had the same owner as macca and the same supporters to deal with both are apparently good defensive coaches but both are imo not improving the defence much apart from mbemba and the improvement of hairdryer !

    pards is not our manager and didnt cope with fans pressure too well in the end as we ground him down which is prob what we will end up doing to macca if results stay wayward.

    lets just support what we have now and look forward to what we may become if we dont dwell on the past that we can never change.

  • 72 welshgeordie9 // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:04 PM


    That happens to a lot of teams, Liverpool is good example, they do well against the big sides and play badly against the Lower sides, every season it happens to them and they are not exactly crap are they, that’s why Rodgers got the sack.

  • 73 Munster Mag // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:04 PM

    Sutty the football under pardew want necessarily long ball imo. More like standard English football. It certainly wasnt all long ball but it was negative. I must check out palace tonite because i dont like them doing well. My bro in law is a palace fan so we had plenty of aggro when they shot up the league last season. My criticism of fans on here though was that pardew was never given credit for 5th ( even if we had come 7th that wud have been good)… Then no investement…the lma award…besting chelsea man u etc. It was negative and ridiculous all day long irrespective. Put it this way, i hate sam far more.

  • 74 jane // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:05 PM

    the water bottle suffered much more than David Meyler’s head.

  • 75 welshgeordie9 // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:06 PM

    Jail for Ashley

    Stop being a pissing drama queen and grow the hell up, why have you got to stick your nose in.

  • 76 welshgeordie9 // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:08 PM

    No interest in the club is that right jail, you keep telling yourself that, you clown.

  • 77 welshgeordie9 // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:10 PM

    Anyway I’m quite looking forward to tomorrow, big game, long day. With 3 matches on live.

  • 78 TroubledToon // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:21 PM

    Ok guys… Enough of Pardew for today…
    Poor ol Charlie Austin’s feeling left out cuz no1 mentioned him on the blog today!!!

  • 79 croftus5678 // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:23 PM

    @77 troubled


    so…erm…any update on the austin transfer 😉

  • 80 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:24 PM

    Wonder if we will have Niall bloody Quinn commentating tomorrow?

  • 81 Jib // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:25 PM

    Welshie don’t forget Wallabies v Pumas
    4 big games

  • 82 John Tudor // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:25 PM

    so very true jail
    what no inane comments on the arrival of his star player

  • 83 Shadow_Shearer // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:28 PM

    I would say Pardew’s football is defending as a team, attacking as individuals. That’s why there was very little movement, & ideas going forward.

    So far macca looks the other way around, but it’s still early days

  • 84 Jib // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:29 PM

    Nowt wrong with Niall Quinn.

    He’s a gentleman.

    Played for the Arse and the scum but still one of the good guys.

  • 85 TroubledToon // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:33 PM

    @ croftus: I’ll leave the updates to Ed.. No1 can replace him 😉

  • 86 Mag52 // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:37 PM

    Looks as if I’ve come in at the end of another pro/anti Pardew debate started, as they usually are, by the anti brigade.
    Beats me why they can’t move on to the Palace blog and rubbish him on there. Probably because most of the fans there are more than happy with a manager who took a team without a win in 9 games and anchored in the bottom three in the division to top ten in the table, and who are at present up there again. Not bad for a ‘crap’ manager.
    Too late to regret his leaving you guys, even if you feel partly responsible for it.

  • 87 scout // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:45 PM

    Agreed about Quinn, met him at Sedgefield races he’s a top bloke. Cracked on for ages about the racing he’s a gentleman.

  • 88 will die for the toon army // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:48 PM

    In Mcca I trust:

    Team for 5under1and:

    Mcca will never alter his formation he has got his attacking formular he was lookimg for all he needs is to sort out that defence.

  • 89 Moonraker15 // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:52 PM

    I agree Quinny seems to be a gent but when he does this commentary he just can’t hide his bias towards the mackems! Same as when Man city are on he gets very excited haha

  • 90 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:54 PM

    Mag, I’ll ask you the same question I asked everyone earlier. Who would you want as Manager now

    McClaren or Pardew?

  • 91 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:56 PM

    Will die. I hope McClaren will change his formation. At some point things can stop working, it can be injuries to players or other teams working you out. Good managers adapt to that by changing things round. I’m not saying change it for tomorrow!

  • 92 Jib // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:57 PM

    Quinny isn’t as biased as the Waddler , and Chris played for us !!!!

  • 93 will die for the toon army // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:58 PM

    Pressure for tomorrowz game.

  • 94 croftus5678 // Oct 24, 2015 at 7:59 PM

    so…who do we rate as our current best cb’s in order ?

    mine is

    janmaat 😉
    mababu (untested)

  • 95 Munster Mag // Oct 24, 2015 at 8:07 PM

    Sutty, Quinn is entitled to a little bias I guess, but I listened closely to him last time and he was pretty fair, He has hude respect for NUFC as a club, unlike some of the moronic gobshites that we have to suffer – eg Ian Wright. Quinn just loves sport – he’s a fanatical Dublin and Tipperary GAA fan ( dad is from Tipp ) and loves a pint. If he wasnt an ex Makem we’d be grand with him !

  • 96 Munster Mag // Oct 24, 2015 at 8:11 PM

    Job, wasnt Waddler a Makems fan originally – is he from the makem end of durham or something ?

  • 97 Munster Mag // Oct 24, 2015 at 8:11 PM

    Sorry meant Jib not Job

  • 98 catchy in norway // Oct 24, 2015 at 8:14 PM

    oh my lord, you have me started on P45,

    pure chancer full stop, couldnt defend or attack, couldnt even talk to the press, had no idea what he had just witnessed or couldnt recall it.
    the guy trained on defending 4 days a week and attacking only 1

    his stats are embarrassing reading .

    11/12 season, goals for 56 (6th best) against 51 (9th best)
    12/13 season, goals for 45 (15th best) against 68 (16th best).
    13/14 season, goals for 43 (11th best) against 59 (14th best).
    14/15 season, goals for 40 (15th best) against 63 (19th best).

    throw in with these facts the number of records the guy broke for us, not one of the a good record.
    In every full season as Newcastle United manager, Alan Pardew has gone on a run of games that lasted at least one third of the season where his win ratio was between 14% and 29%:

    10/11 – 14 games / 2 wins (14%)

    11/12 – 17 games / 5 wins (29%)

    12/13 – 14 games / 2 wins (14%)

    13/14 – 20 games / 4 wins (20%)..

    its embarrassing that guys still come on here and talk about him as if he did good things for the club and its reputation. things like nutting a player, pushing a linesman, calling other managers bad things when others can hear.

    these guys come on and act like none of this ever happened

    Alan Pardew was the first Newcastle United manager to lose 6 consecutive Premier League games

    In the 2013-14 season, Alan Pardew’s Newcastle United lost 4 home games in a row without scoring a goal – the first time in the club’s entire history that this has happened.

    n the 2012-13 season, Newcastle under Alan Pardew lost their final 3 home games, the only time in the club’s history that they have done so.

    and just to finish it all off, lets talk about the man being a winner
    Alan Pardew has conceded more goals against Sunderland as manager of Newcastle United than Keegan, Dalglish, Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear and Hughton combined (12 vs 11).
    Alan Pardew’s Newcastle United have conceded 9 goals to Sunderland in their last 4 encounters.

    Alan Pardew’s Newcastle United fired their first Sunderland derby blank since 1989, their first home blank since 1985, their first two consecutive home blanks since 1901 and their first three consecutive home blanks ever.
    Alan Pardew has managed Newcastle United for 36% of Tyne-Wear derbies in Premier league history (9/25), yet has overseen 57% of the Newcastle defeats (4/7), 41,4% of the goals conceded (12/29) and only 14% of all the goals scored (5/35).

    Newcastle United took 1.76 Points per game from Sunderland prior to Pardew’s arrival. Under Pardew they have taken 0.75 Points per game.

    In 21 games played over 20 years under 10 different managers Sunderland only managed to beat Newcastle United 3 times, and never by more than a single goal. In a 10 month period between April 2013 and December 2014 Sunderland beat Alan Pardew’s Newcastle United 4 times by an aggregate score of 1-9.

    Alan Pardew has lost more Tyne-Wear derbies than the previous 22 Newcastle United managers combined.

    guys give it a rest, he was never good enough, if you accept him, then you are loser just like him….

  • 99 will die for the toon army // Oct 24, 2015 at 8:15 PM

    SUTTY. .

    I know wat u r saying which is true. He will adjust to that but as of now we will have to win games.

    oardew or Mcca? Mcca all the way.

  • 100 Mister Tuff // Oct 24, 2015 at 8:16 PM

    it could be an idea for the now discredited remnants of the pro Percy Brigade (aka the Legion of Dishonour) to move to a Palace blog – where they could swap stories of the good times with the King ( of the I’m the King and I’ll eat your meal fame). They’ll be amongst friends and can eat a slice of eel pie and sing a few Chas n’ Dave songs. Later they could get on the dog and bone and order a Ruby Murray.

  • 101 Tinman // Oct 24, 2015 at 8:17 PM


    You’re joking right?

  • 102 Munster Mag // Oct 24, 2015 at 8:24 PM

    Catchy, in the interests of balance in plain english most fans and pundits look at it like this: He came to us as a middling team, left us as a middling team, got 5th , did solidly or better in Europa, nearly relegated us , won a LMA, was badly compromised in player purchasing and sales, probably lost a lot of him vim and vigour from the stress, nutted a player disgracefully and abused City boss , left us in solid nick to Carver, saved Palace brilliantly and is now regarded as an England dark horse. Guys like you were on here screaming blue murder about his every decision, right or wrong ( always wrong according to the detractors ) but the facts above are as valid as your facts. And as I said mate , jeez no i dont want him back. Feck I hope i havent burned the dinner ( Italian sausages and pasta by the way ) on the wife and kids , writing about an ex manager !

  • 103 scout // Oct 24, 2015 at 8:25 PM

    I’d start Kev ahead of dummy he’s kak.

  • 104 cestriasteve // Oct 24, 2015 at 8:31 PM

    If we can contain Lens then we will beat the mackem scourge, so that’s the hardest thing Steve McClaren has to sort out in my opinion.

  • 105 will die for the toon army // Oct 24, 2015 at 8:31 PM

    catchy in norway

    You have made my night. That sums u Pardew piece of crap jst had one good season wen we finished 5th.

  • 106 Mag52 // Oct 24, 2015 at 8:33 PM


    It’s a fair question, and I’ll give you a fair answer.
    We are in exactly the position now as we were last season, at which point we set off on a six match run of wins (5 in the league) and never looked back till AP left.
    This, incidently, with an inferior squad to the one we now have. Can Macca do that ? I don’t think so.
    With the support, in terms of new players, that Ashley has so far given to Macca, I’d expect Pardew to outperform SM, particularly if the going, and thus the pressure, gets tough.
    Not saying that McClaren is a bad manager, just saying that when AP left, there were a number of better ones out there who we could have got if we were a seriously ambitious club.

  • 107 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 24, 2015 at 8:40 PM

    Was nout wrong with Pardew, it was the way the club was run behind the scenes which was the major problem and seen us and him hung out to dry. He was the face of the club for the cowards in the background, that takes balls and I respect it even though he signed upto it. The internet patter and sack pardew was an emabarrasment and would of been better targetting Ashley from the start instead of his minnion.

    He left here because he knew he couldn’t win not football matches but the respect a manager needs, he couldn’t win, the personal vendetta by the small amount was shocking, and it was a small amount. Alot more fans seen what the major problem was with the club and alot of fans targetted Pardew because they couldn’t get to Ashley.

    He hung MA out to dry on soccer AM one saturday i remember it well. He risked his job but it’s never mentioned on here. The yes man went out the window that morning for me. He spoke out on live TV that Mike Ashley hurts the club with his decisions and that’s all that needs to be said with who causes the problems at NE1.

  • 108 Jail for Ashley // Oct 24, 2015 at 8:47 PM

    But you didn’t give an answer ?

  • 109 Jib // Oct 24, 2015 at 8:51 PM

    Chris Waddle is from Felling and played around Pelaw and Leam Lane area as a young ‘un (Magpie territory)
    I do believe he turned to the dark side because he had elder brothers who were Toon fans and bullied him as a kid.

  • 110 Jail for Ashley // Oct 24, 2015 at 8:53 PM

    But Mag52, we did look back, we were in another dire run of form till we beat Everton !

  • 111 will die for the toon army // Oct 24, 2015 at 8:57 PM

    I wld agree that MA made some mistakes but wat I wld say is that he gave Pardew the tools to use for at least a top 12 position but not relegation fights.

    All the players sold were replaced but Pardew jst didnt know how to use them or he was jst poor at wat he was doing.

    1.Caroll was replaced by 2 very good strikers in Demba Ba and Cisse but he failed to use them well.
    2. How cld u brush ur best player thats Hatem Benfa away after he had made ilu finish 5th. He changed formations way too much.
    3. Pardew jst didnt have a formular to make a team he wanted instant success. They provided the tools for him look at the players we signed and the ones that left. Those players were upcoming young stars that Pardew jst failed to maintain their development.
    4. Look at the players that were Pardewed. Hatem, Santon, Mbiwa, Marvuex, Abeid, Cisse, Vuckic, Bigi, Fergie, Adam Campbell, Goufrann, The list goes on and on. Wat shocks me he once used those players got him results and all of a sudden plays them out of position or drops them.

  • 112 will die for the toon army // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:10 PM

    I think even some of u fans r Pardewed, One guy dont remember jst put up a team of:

    Now wat was he thinking? You have jst got a victory and u want Mcca to alter players in that way. in their wrong positions. Know and understand people’s positions. Mcca never alters players position thats why he risked Mbabu jst to keep Mbemba in his favourite position.

  • 113 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:11 PM

    Will die, completely 100% agree with your last sentence!

  • 114 Toon Tang // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:12 PM

    Hows things people.

    The big one tomorrow eh

  • 115 Toon Tang // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:16 PM

    Could do with some real leadership tomoz, no fannying around with ventriloquism and thrown voices etc, just good old fashioned ‘open your mouth and shout a few orders or encouragement or something’

  • 116 Thump // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:18 PM

    @Will Die: I’m by no means a Pardew fan (in fact, I actually celebrated his leaving by getting utterly trollied) but…

    1. I think internal politics got in the way there. Ba was shifted out to the left to incorporate Cisse in a 4-3-3, his goals dried up and he started to struggle for form. The following season, he found himself in the same position and allegedly gave Pardew a piece of his mind. Even then, Ba is a mercenary – regardless of how – or rather where – he played, he was always going to get his payoff when somebody met his release clause.

    2. Ben Arfa made us finish 5th? That’s not entirely accurate, is it? Even then, formations aren’t the problem, the problem was that Ben Arfa simply didn’t fit into Pardew’s style of play – I would argue that this was the case of a lot of players brought in during his reign – and as such he would put the square pegs in the round holes (“Ben Arfa isn’t defensive enough” etc.)

    3. Let’s be fair now, everybody wants instant success. We put a couple of lines on the lottery and we go to bed thinking that we’re going to be loaded come the morning – that’s human nature, mate. Again though, it all comes back to Pardew having the tools he needed to make a decent squad. We’re seeing what he wants to do over at Palace (though I still firmly believe they’re going to fall hard next season) and with the say over transfers, he’s found a decent formula.

    4. Abeid, Vukic, Fergie and Campbell weren’t going to make it here. You could argue the case for Abeid, but the other three have had question marks over them for a long while. Goofy has always been a bit shite, and Marveaux, while talented, is far too lightweight for the more physical game in the premier league. I’m trying to think of french wingers in the Bundesliga (probably the most physical league next to the prem) and outside of Ribery, none are really coming to mind.

    The biggest mistake Ashley has made is giving the transfer power to the likes of Carr, because most managers will struggle to manage a squad they had no say over. With McClaren being on the “footballing board”, we might actually see a little bit more power. Ultimately I think it’ll come back to Ashley realising it isn’t working and granting power back to the manager

  • 117 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:21 PM

    Mag52, would you classify one outperforming the other as finishing higher in the league or also based on the football we play? Everyone enjoys winning but when those wins are scrappy and often lucky wins it doesn’t give you the same sense of satisfaction as giving a team a good tonking!
    The odd win where you are under the cosh and break away to get the winner are great but season after season it becomes a chore to watch. Pardews legacy is turning St James’ into a morgue.
    I want to see us play with a bit of swagger and with attacking intent. I’d prefer that and finishing a couple of places lower. I want a positive goal difference at some point. We showed more of that in one game than I have seen in the last 4 years. The last time we were doing that was under Hughton.
    We were never going to win anything with Pardew, we’re not going to win anything with McClaren so the success is all shades of grey, it’s up to the individual how it’s assessed.

  • 118 Mag52 // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:25 PM


    In 9th. position when he left for Palace – from 18 th.

  • 119 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:27 PM

    Will die, he played Mbemba at RB against Man U so you’re argument doesn’t really stand up there!
    He’s also played Wijnaldum at no.10, def mid & now left wing.
    I do agree we should keep the players in the same formation and positions as the last game though with 1 or 2 players in or out of the starting line up, a CM & the LB position are up for grabs.

  • 120 Munster Mag // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:27 PM

    Tuff, give up the silly londoner jellied eels nonsense. Makes you sound like a flat capped whippet racer. All rubbish. Catchy, you must have enjoyed raining the daft “sack pardew ” website that made us looks like spoilt ” we scream if we dont get europe ” brats . Most neutral media wud say this …Pardew arrived an we were mid table. He’s a middling ( not crap ) manager who left us mid table, He once got 5th , he once nearly relagated us. He has a temperment issue, he likes himself. He has a habit of beating big clubs, so tactically he is no fool ( sorry but u dont beat mourinho every time by being useless ) . He did quite well in europa, and was compromised badly by his chief scout and owner. He left us a middling team, did a staggering job with Palace ( many here screamed bye bye Palace ) and then Charva came…..oh dear. I know you dont want to accept that analysis because u screamed at his every decision but thats the way most people view Pardew.

  • 121 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:29 PM

    Pardew also got us to the quarters of Europa and we narrowly missed out on the semi’s. There is no doubt he was seriously hindered in what he could achieve here at the Toon. He did well with the full squad at his disposal and didn’t without hence the terrible runs. The injury record was unreal. But to suggest it was his fault and aim personal vendetta’s at him was ludicrous and shameful which is why pundits took his side and many Toon fans.

    To put it simply, it was bullsh1t.

    Ashley ruined Pardew’s chances of succeeding and he will any other manager while these policies are in place.

  • 122 will die for the toon army // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:29 PM


    Ben Arfa was amazing second half of the season.

    Am waiting to see wat Mcca is going to do coz he is a situation of Pardew were hr has two talented players who cant defend in Ssisoko and Wijanldum. If he pulls it off I bet he will have had 1 better off than Pardew.

    For Palace, I believe its all going to fall. What Pardew is building at Palace has no foundation.

  • 123 Munster Mag // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    Will die…are you a complete halfwit? Do you ever accept that some players are just not very good, or do you blame managers for their failings ?? Fergie, Gouffy, vukic …ruined by Pardew ….are you having a laugh ????? Santon is a crap defender at left back. End of. Mbiwa did not fancy aggressive high ball english tactics. HBA is lazy blastard. Face facts. Cambell ??? FFS would you ever get real.

  • 124 Munster Mag // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:34 PM

    Sutty, I agree with you re the lack of attaack under Pardew. Thats a fair point. Mind you although we stuffed the Makems, i dont recall the prem stuff with Houghton being brilliant.

  • 125 will die for the toon army // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:36 PM

    Come on Lads.

    Players will b altered coz we want to know their best positions. But once u get it keep him there dont alter him again.
    Pardew was a crap manager and I still believe he is. Wrong choice we made to bring him at Toon.

  • 126 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    Pardew was sh!te personified and his heart was never in it because of the circumstances of his appointment…he didn’t give 2 sh!tes if we won or lost so long as picked up his wages along with some tart in the bigg market…he’s a sleaze ball and everyone in football knows it…good riddance to the cnut and because there is a god his next fall from grace will never be far away.

    Enough of the past…we are where we are and even at 3rd bottom we’re in a much better place.

    This blog should be p45 free zone FFS and Catchy’s resume of his rare management feats should be proof enough of what nonce he was.

    Nuff said

  • 127 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:39 PM

    Munster, a couple of weeks before stuffing the Mackems we beat Villa 6-0, that was the last time we scored 6 before last week. Bear in mind Hughton only had about a dozen PL games before he was sacked, so to absolutely stuff two teams in that time is quite impressive!

  • 128 Jail for Ashley // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:43 PM

    You still haven’t answered the question !
    I said to a Norwich fan about Pardew taking the eight year deal, he said you can’t blame him for that, I don’t have to like for it and I certainly don’t have to respect him for it either !

  • 129 Jail for Ashley // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:43 PM


  • 130 Blackley and Brownlie // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:44 PM

    “…the vast vast majority of fans i know, in ireland and england said we looked like spoiled brats who were demanding european football and not getting it.” Hahaha. Who gives a ****? Not me. Why would any NUFC fan care about what other fans think?

  • 131 toonking // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:46 PM

    will die

    in fairness pardew himself had managed to get the club finishing in 5th place and 10th place during two of his 3 seasons in charge, the only season he didn’t was that europa league season but was close to getting us into the semis and our team that season was more like a relegating battling team than top10 team because injuries occured left right and centre on one occassion we had no CB available and the overall points total for injuries was 42 (twice as big as the next worst injury hit team).

    All these players that you are saying pardewed the closest i’d go with is cisse the rest were either no use to begin with or didn’t make things any easier with there our behaviour.

  • 132 Mag52 // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:46 PM


    We all love to see exciting attacking football. The KK years at NUFC will forever be a wonderful memory even if he fell at the final hurdle.
    But you can only play that sort of football with those sort of players, and until recently, with the acquisition of two guys who have a pretty good idea where the goal is(Gini & Mitro) we’ve been lacking those players. Let’s all hope that last week was not just a one off.
    Having said that, the wins AP chalked up at Old Trafford, against Spurs, against Chelsea, at the Etihad, might not have been achieved by spectacular attacking football, but by God weren’t they satisfying and against the odds when you look at the comparative strengths of those teams.
    Results like those are dismissed by the anti Pardew faction as lucky or scrappy, but when you look at the teams we put out in those matches they were actually pretty damn good.

  • 133 Jail for Ashley // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:51 PM

    You still haven’t answered the question, would you want Pardew or McLaren or even have Pardew back !

  • 134 will die for the toon army // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:53 PM

    Am done with Pardew Nuff said.

    Sissoko, Mitro, Wijnaldum and Perez have been spot on for the last 4 games. They have got us 9 goals and 7 assists among them that is consistency. The other statistics r also good.

    Its the defensive side that is bad. We jst hop Dummett or Cheick can change something coz they r the new recruits

  • 135 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:54 PM

    The whole top and bottom of it is he just wasn’t as bad as all the vitriol aimed at him on here. How far it went online was bullsh1t. It’s a good job it wasn’t seen by the majority.

    The argument, it was done so we could get a better manager and have a fresh start was genius eh? Nearly got us relegated. And should of aswell. John Carver. Why would you think Ashley would hire a Klopp again? I mean, he gave so many signals out that he would didn’t he?

    Howay man, it’s obvious why NUFC are struggling and it ain’t anything to do with the coaches and managers.

  • 136 Jail for Ashley // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:56 PM

    Everyone who didn’t know that , knows it now, Pardew deserved everything he got for being Ashleys willing patsy !

  • 137 will die for the toon army // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:00 PM

    Klopp & De Boer r way up our league. Guys we shld face facts. I want us to build our club in the way Arsenal Liverpool and Manure did their thing step by step.

    Westham r going to b like Spurs rushing things if u r not Maktum or Abromavic u cant do it alot of money is lost.

  • 138 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:00 PM

    Mag52, I’ll give it to you that there were some good wins over the years, when we beat Man U 3-0 at home was probably the highlight. Ones like the Spurs away win are exactly my point on scrappy very lucky football, it was basically Tim Krul vs Spurs, they could have beaten us by 6 or 8 that day! It was the most saves ever made by a keeper in the PL without conceding.
    We had a team under Pardew with ba, Cisse, Ben Arfa and Cabaye. Four players who know where the goal is. He fell upon a 433 formation that worked, we were winning and playing decent football. For no discernible reason he decided to scrap that after 6 or 7 games and go negative again, consequently we started losing, including getting beaten 4-0 by Wigan.
    He had good players at his disposal while he was here, he just didn’t get the best out of them most of the time. He was boom and bust, short winning runs followed by long barren losing spells.
    I’m not arsed what he’s doing at palace, doesn’t bother me one way or the other but he managed to lose 4 in a row there last season.

  • 139 toonking // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:03 PM


    I didn’t think myself he was the best of managers to hope for entertainment but pardew’s teams as the months went on did seem to face bigger and bigger issues with having the players he needed for an attacking game, each and every season seem to get transfer window in which we’d lose a key player in the attack and overtime this made his attacking plans more and more difficult whilst at the same time he still knew our defence was in a very bad state.

    The real turn around in formation began during that europa league season my thought here was he might have given up with his 4-3-3 concerned the same could happen again when who ever was his next main role got removed and knowing the defence is such an awful one his best hope of getting results is to try avoid conceding whilst waiting for that chance to break.

  • 140 Thump // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:06 PM

    @Will Die: He was amazing the second half of the season, you’re right, but we were charging forward the first half of the season. His form certainly helped us, but you’re making it out like we couldn’t have finished in a (very) respectable position without him. Some managers know how to handle flair players (Keegan, SBR, Fergie, even Mourhino), and others don’t – those that don’t blame the player, rather than realising that a player like that allows you to push on up the pitch. On the other hand, Ben Arfa was a one man show. I don’t recall him ever really passing the ball around in neat little triangles (though I do remember some of his cheeky chips over the heads of players on him like a fscking rash).

    Pardew is gone, and that’s all that matters. I want him to prove me wrong and make Palace a premier league team – at least then we can say “He was more thanb a bit shite for us, but he clearly knows more than we gave him credit for” and then we can point the finger at those who really deserve the blame – starting with Ashley.

    Anyway, let’s put old P45 to bed and focus on tomorrow.

  • 141 will die for the toon army // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:08 PM


    Pardew Nuff said. I hsve no comment.

  • 142 Mag52 // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:08 PM


    Would I want Pardew here now in place of Macca ? No way in the world. We have to move on as he has.
    However, if we get in a sticky situation near the foot of the table and need a few wins to keep us safe, I know who my money would be on to get them.

  • 143 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:09 PM

    Prodigy, you cant blame fans for seeing that something is crap and wanting something better. Just because we didn’t get it doesn’t mean that the desire was misplaced.
    I wouldn’t have chosen McClaren, I sure as shit wouldnt have chosen Carver.
    At some point in the future, near or distant the fans are going to want McClaren out. The expectation will be that they will employ someone better, who knows what we will get? Hopefully at some point we stumble on the manager who will bring us success.
    The one thing I will demand is that we are entertained while this is going on and not forced to watch anti-football defensive dross.

  • 144 Moonraker15 // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:09 PM

    Can’t believe anyone can be PRO Percy! He’s now lost 5 games the same number as us so his pattern continues. I reckon I’ll have a bet we finish above them this season !

  • 145 Munster Mag // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:11 PM

    Blackley, are you having a laugh?? geordies are paranoid about what the ” southern media ” think . Its constantly mentioned and as long as i know fellas from your neck of the woods, it has been apparent. If you dont, big deal. My point was that most reasonable non biased fans would agree with the assessment of Pardew as a middling mgr, not the gimp portrayed by a small hard core minority on this site. Wht would any Toon fans care what others think? Because they dont like being seen as myopic screaming brats who demand the manager is sacked when they are mid table. Pardew was a bit of a tool, but the fact of the matter is that he arrived and we were middling, and he left when we were middling. And that must really hurt the screamers.

  • 146 toonking // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:16 PM


    That is normally what gets me still bring up things about pardew, they might not thing themselves it was embarressing but it was.

    Fans wanted a new manager fans got a new manager so if we are to still be sitting in a relegation battle come january will these fans remain in praise of mac or will they begin demanding him to get sacked.

  • 147 will die for the toon army // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:20 PM

    Mcca iz the right Manager for NUFC at the right time. Not Rogers nor Klopp nor De Boer. The return of KK and Big AL showed me that we really never needed a big name Manager at this time.

    A big Name Manager is always bigger than the club and they tend to have the favour of the fans.

  • 148 will die for the toon army // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:24 PM


    Am behind Mcca this season even if we finish 17th. We r a team in transition and we need to build a top 10 club.

  • 149 Mister Tuff // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:25 PM

    Quite a few of the pro Percy Brigade have been flushed out of the undergrowth tonight – trying to substantiate their prior top manager claims instead of just accepting he was a knacker.

    Not Percys fault though – he should never have been employed in the first place by Mr Tubbs.
    Why the hell didn’t they offer Klop the job – too bloody tight.

  • 150 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:26 PM


    Every manager is going to see the same problems. I said this when Pardew walked last year, are we going to go through 4 managers a year and keep blaming them? This is a huge problem.

    Try giving mourinho or guardiola a squad of 14-15 purples and the rest made up of youngins and upcoming foreign youngings and they will meet their fate. Keep selling and not replacing in good time and you end up bottom of the league. Now we are are changing the culture but not the policies, what is really going to change?

    The club deserves to go down and it’s not the first time. His luck is going to run out sooner rather than later. He’s only spent 50 mil to reap the rewards of the TV money next year. He wants that back though which has been proven on the untested players he has purchased. Some will come off some won’t and we will start over.

    The quicker people start realising the manager means nout the better for me. The club is disabled through a lack of ambition and forward planning. We arn’t building or trying to win anything under these policies, how people can blame a coach or manager is bizarre to me. Knock the tactics and footy aye, build websites errr ……

  • 151 Tuttelbom // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:26 PM

    I would like to see us trying out Anita/Tiote in the mf. Doesnt think Colback has done anything special to justify a starting spot this term.

  • 152 daffy // Oct 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM

    Last time the toon beat Sunderland
    Magna Carta was in its infancy & shearer had hair

  • 153 ToonJovi // Oct 25, 2015 at 9:07 AM

    Anita over Tiote all day for me today, Tiote is lacking confidence, fitness and is all over the place at the minute,,. add that to his disciplinary record…. no thanks for today Cheik!

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