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Newcastle Need These Players – Not Trophy Signings

9:17 am, Saturday, October 24th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 92 Comments

There has been lots of news in the press – it´s true it´s mainly been from the national press – about Newcastle signing 33 year-old Manchester United goalkeeper Victor Valdes, who seems to be a player who has been squeezed out at the Red Devils by new manager Louis van Gaal.

With Tim Krul being out for the season, there has been lots of news that we should sign Victor either on loan or permanently in January.

victor valdes

Victor Valdes – Manchester United top goalkeeper

But we have strengthened the goalkeeping department since last season and we now have Rob Elliot, Karl Darlow and young Freddie Woodman as first team goalkeepers at the club to fill in for Tim.

The first thing the club has to do is give a chance to these players to see if they can fill the boots of Tim – and we expect  Rob Elliot can do that and Karl Darlow and Freddie Woodman can push him to play very well if the Republic of Ireland International wants to keep his place in the side.

It´s a huge opportunity for 29 year-old Rob Elliot who has a contract at the club through June 2019.

Only if the goalkeepers we have cannot do the job should we look at bringing in another more experienced goalkeeper in January – probably on loan.

And we see a couple of reports saying it would be good for Newcastle to buy Valdes – because it would be a trophy signing and be good for Newcastle.

But we made a lot of those trophy signings in the past under Freddie Shepherd and most of them consisted of bringing in older players with big names but way past their best.

We paid them huge wages while they performed often at a mediocre level – at best.

Patrick Kluivert was signed in 2004 just before Sir Bobby Robson was sacked and is a good example of a singing like that.

We don´t need that kind of trophy signing and they didn´t work in the past.

Under Mike Ashley,  we have gone in the other direction and try to sign low profile young players on the cheap who can potentially become good players in the future – but our success rate at that has been 50% at best.

Ayoze Perez who was signed over  a year ago from Tenerife is a good example of that – we paid £1.4M for him and Spurs bid £15M for him in the summer – so some of those signings have been very successful.

The type of continental signing we need are also players like Gini Wijnaldum who are (very) good players who want their chance in the Premier League and Newcastle go out and pay out good money for them – £14.5M in Gini´s case.

Gini is looking like a very good player for us with six goals so far this season and of course he scored four goals last time out and  maybe four tomorrow too at Sunderland.

🙂

The other thing we need to do is to pay  a little more when necessary for British players because they don´t have such a long learning curve and in the past we´ve had to wait for continental players to adjust to the pace and physical nature of the English game.

And some simply  don´t make it with Remy Cabella (and Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa) being an example of one of them.

So instead of only recruiting from the continent we should also bring in more English players like we recently did with Jamaal Lascelles and Karl Darlow.

The Newcastle United brand needs to become more  global and higher profile and the best way to do that is to finish in the top six in the Premier League and we need to spend our money wisely to build a side that can do that.

Not on trophy signings and not always on cheap continental players.

It has to be a combination of those various types of signings and include players in Britain who are of  known value – like Charlie Austin of QPR as one good example.

And very good continental players who can come in and adjust quickly to the Premier League – like Joel Matip of Schalke as a good example.

Trophy signings are a thing of the past at Newcastle and should remain that way – we need to spend our money wisely and not always sign cheaper players from the continent.

And we should only be signing a player like Victor Valdes on loan in January if is our current goalkeepers cannot get the job done.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Freddie Woodman · Karl Darlow · Loan Moves · Newcastle News · Rob Elliot · Tim Krul · Transfer News and Rumours




92 responses so far ↓

  • 1 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:17 AM

    Someone in a previous thread made a very good point earlier…it’s not really about if we should play Anita…It’s more about who should play with him.

    Tiote and Colback are very much the same player…both clumsy in the tackle, both a bit headless and both niggly nasty best@rds who disrupt…but it’s Anita that brings calm and intelligent passes along with the not so physical harassing.

    Back in the day we used to have Dave MaCreery to do the job Tiote and Colback do…he did nothing but spoil…no fancy runs once he got the ball, no turning on the spot into trouble, no fancy 30 yard cross field passes…he’d harrass, spoil, put his head in where it always hurt, get the ball and pass it 5 yards to his midfield partner and job done.

    That’s why I think we should play either Colback or Tiote with Anita…I think we’ll achieve a lot more

  • 2 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    Kluivert scored 13 goals for us in that one season he was here, damn good return and a quality player. Never got what people had against him. Mitro probably wont get to 13 goals this season.

  • 3 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:46 AM

    Sparky, the problem is that what does Anita offer other than a five yard pass and running round a bit? Nowt. All well and good having one player to do the dirty work and lay it off but only if the player they lay it off to can do something with it. Anita just does the same laying off but without the dirty work and without an attacking contribution. The whole lot need clearing out. CM has gone from recently being our strongest position within the team to our weakest. We at least have 1 decent CB, we have no decent CM’s. This can obviously be attributed to our two best CM’s being turned into wingers but I do feel they play well there.

  • 4 nut meg // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:47 AM

    sutty
    25 PL games 6 goals

  • 5 Laurent Robert 32 // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:48 AM

    I was really please that Kluivert signed, and thought he did generally ok. Albeit he peaked earlier, he was still a very accomplished player and had excellent touches and control. He scored a number of goals as well. The pairing with Bellamy may have been more functional because of his running off the ball.

  • 6 Ibizatoon // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:52 AM

    Sutty…Was just checking that out as that stat surprised me. In the PL he got 6 in 25 (roughly 1 in 4), in the domestic cups he got 2 in 6 (1 in 3). It was in Europe that he did well for us, scoring 5 goals in 6 games.

    Seeing as we don’t have Europe, a fairer benchmark for Mitro would perhaps be 8 goals in 31 games, which is nearly 1 in 4 games.

  • 7 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:56 AM

    Nut meg, 6 in PL, 2 in FA cup, 5 in Uefa cup – 13 total

  • 8 Laurent Robert 32 // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    Some of Kluivert’s goals for us: http://youtu.be/ikdDOroelU0

    My namesake with a few of assists as well.

  • 9 Small World // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    Kluivert was a standout player in that team, however if he had been applying himself properly his goal tally would have been double that. The guy was truly world class and hell bent on pissing away his career prior to joining us. He scored more often on the pick up with the lasses in the Osborne Road bars where he did most of his “training”. He did a job for us, where as he could have done a brilliant job for almost any club in the world had he had the mind to do it. I don’t think we fought off any major competition in signing him, and likewise what did he do after leaving the Toon?

    Mitro will give his all for out team, though most likely never be in the same class Kluivert was. If he does make that grade, we’ll be laughing – but I severely doubt it.

  • 10 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:00 AM

    I remember a game we played against Sochaux I think it was. He was immense, think we won 3 or 4 nil. One of the best performances I have seen from a toon player.
    Bear in mind also that he was generally played out of position. He was a classic no.9 but obv. Shearer had that spot so he was either used as a sub or left in a 433.

  • 11 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:03 AM

    Sutty

    I’m just talking about which combination out of the three players we have available to us would work best for the game tomorrow.

    My point is why have two players that do the exact same thing (harass and spoil) play in the same team when good intelligent passing from midfield to Sissoko, Winji, Perez, Mitro or whoever will be key tomorrow.

    Tiote is still off the pace but I guess will come good over the next month or so and he can recapture his presence of old and stop turning into trouble and losing possession (something he does at least 5 times a game BTW) then our options are greater and varied depending on who we’re playing…but for tomorrow I believe we have to start with a c calm head and someone who can pick a pass as opposed to two hot heads with limited ability…so IMO that means Anita and an other.

  • 12 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    I certainly wasn’t meaning my comparison as a slur on Mitro, love the guy already. Also agree that he could have been even better if he hadn’t been chasing the ladies quite so much. Pretty sure his missus divorced him just after he came here so must have been enjoying himself!

  • 13 Laurent Robert 32 // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    I think that regardless of the potential of a player, yes it would be ideal if they play to their maximum effort, but even without that and are relatively ‘coasting’ they still possess more skill than the average ‘grafter’ or ‘he gets stuck in’ merchant. You need a balance throughout the team.

  • 14 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    LR, your namesake being a prime example!

  • 15 Ibizatoon // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Sutty…Didn’t take it as a slur against Mitro 🙂

    Was just offering some perspective on the achievement.

  • 16 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    Ibiza, lets compare him to Riviere then, he’s had a full season!

  • 17 Ibizatoon // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    Sutty…We may as well bring Shola in to the mix then 🙂

  • 18 Laurent Robert 32 // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Sutty, yes, bit his skill levels were incredible, and that’s what Sir Bobby recognised as well. Privilege to see those great goals.

  • 19 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:31 AM

    Let’s big it up for John Robertson and Billy Whitehirst then!…both very prolific whilst at newcastle

  • 20 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    LR, I know, one of my fave players as well!

  • 21 AncientC // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:36 AM

    Completely agree with Sutty in regards to Anita. You could watch our games and forget Anita was even on the pitch for large periods, such is the anonymity of his contribution. Anita is good at harrying players, but he seems ineffectual to me.

    Tiote is shaky at the best of times, but for me, I would rather have a shaky firewall over Anita acting as a shadow. I don’t rate Anita as a neat passer either, he stabs the ball at other players which makes it difficult for those on the end of his passes to control.

  • 22 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    seems strange then how we held Norwich at bay in the 2nd half last week when they threw everything at us with Anita on the pitch and Tiote off it then doesn’t it?

  • 23 sing in the corner // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Regarding all this continuing Tiote talk..
    He has DONE NOTHING IN THE LAST YEAR to prove he is back to the player people seem to be remembering with rose tinted specs. That, in a nutshell, is what he has to do if he’s going to start a game, in my opinion.

  • 24 Tsunki // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    Not strange Sparky. Tiote at his best is a demolition man who breaks the opponents midfield with sturdy tackling and laying the ball off to someone who can create play. Anita on his day is a clean distributor and sometimes astute tackler who is busy enough to frustrate the opponent trying to create their own possession play. The former is ok when you are defending a slim lead, the latter when you want to get one. I know which I would prefer theses days, seeing as Tiote is way off his game.

  • 25 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    Tsunki

    My point pretty much exactly…that’s why IMO it should be Anita plus AN OTHER and never Colback and Tiote

  • 26 Tsunki // Oct 24, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    My biggest problem with Tiote, form aside, is his inability to make a creative pass, or to participate in one-two play.

  • 27 AncientC // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    sparky55 – Anita coming on isn’t necessarily the reason we didn’t concede as many in the 2nd half against Norwich.

    Didn’t they hit the woodwork and have an effort cleared off the line in the 2nd half. Also, our side seemed more interested in containing than attacking for the first 15/20 minutes of the 2nd half. You can also factor in the moral factor hurting Norwich once we did score in the 2nd period.

  • 28 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:03 AM

    along with his very unique ability to collect a pass and perform a very ungainly pirouette into trouble and lose possession…he’s got that particular unique talent off to a tee.

  • 29 AncientC // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:05 AM

    I have been a big critic of Tiote in the past, so I am not singing his praises, I just believe Anita is a bit of a passenger.

    Tiote will have an impact on a game when he plays. If you had to pick one player from our side that has minimal impact on a game, it would have be Anita. (for me anyway)

  • 30 Jan Stavik // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:05 AM

    Why all the talk about Matip, Ed? He’s a Titus Bramble kind of defender, do we really want that? He has serious concentration issues, and suddenly looses his man… I would stay far away from him, for sure not pay big money for him.

  • 31 Fostino // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:06 AM

    Let’s call a spade a spade. Anita average at best. Tiote shown himself to be a great dm. He gets the nod. This can allow the other cm to push forward if he is on his game. That might not be colback. He’s nothing amazing either but coukd be wini in the middle with thauvin taking the wing spot or the much lived rolando when he returns

    On another point I’d love to see dummett on the middle with mbemba before Xmas. Colo passed it. We Def new a new l.b. at Xmas. Haidira average

  • 32 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    Ancient C

    So what you’re saying is we seemed to come out in the 2nd half with the instruction of containing the lead and as part of that strat?egy SM took off Tiote and brought on Anita????

    I wonder why that would be

  • 33 AncientC // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:11 AM

    sparky55

    Tiote was taken off because he was on a booking and lacking fitness.

    McClaren:

    “I know Cheicky hasn’t played for a long time, and the tireder he gets the more impetuous he gets.“Another yellow would have put us in a lot of trouble, and I didn’t want to risk that.“At 3-2 at half time, it was too big a moment to take a risk.”

  • 34 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    Fostino

    I agree..Dummett and Mbemba would be a much better Colo is way past being finished..he must have though all his birthdays had come at once when they offer that extended deal…Especially when his bags were already packed for a deal on much less than 60 k a week.

  • 35 sing in the corner // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:18 AM

    People continue to talk up the Tiote of 12 to 18 months ago for a place in the side’s central midfield instead of our current unfancied pairing of Colback and Anita. I can’t understand it. It’s Football Manager / gaming talk for me. It’s not a comparison you can make surely? Has he shown he can deliver any time recently? I haven’t seen it…

  • 36 Tsunki // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    I think SM is trying to get Tiote interested. I don’t understand why he so unfit, and why he’s willing to be shoe horned into the match day team when he’s clearly nowhere near. I agree Anita is average, that’s why I said ‘ on his day’. But at worst he’s average and still distributes the ball and importantly doesn’t mess up the side or create many dangers. We need someone better there for sure, or Anita to pick up his good form consistently. But Tiote ( I didn’t even mention his pirouette tactic, which seems from not being quick enough to pick out a creative pass) at his best is a break up asset that frustrates opponents midfield possession. Other than that he is messy, not intuitive, creates dangers from set pieces, and dangerous if not subbed in a timely fashion. I’d stick with Anita until we got better.

  • 37 sing in the corner // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:21 AM

    Sparky

    I think the Jail / Band B theory from earlier has it nailed. He is an Ashley / Charnley man, their dressing room capo, loyal through and through and therefore a Made man til the end.

  • 38 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:22 AM

    If he was lacking fitness he shouldn’t have started if he could only last 45 minutes and his booking was a 100% certainty and no surprise to anyone that it happened so why put the rest of the team and the result at risk…he should not have started the game without more games as a sub under his belt.

    In the modern game you can’t give away a free kick within 40 yards of your goal without it putting your defence under severe pressure…and with Colo as part of our defensive unit we are at a major disadvantage when any decent ball into the box is delivered.

    Tiote is a liability and is the last person you want on at the start the game with on Sunday…happy to seem him give us some fresh legs with half an hour to go but being so off the pace and so sloppy in possession we simply can’t afford to start with him tomorrow…IMO

  • 39 sing in the corner // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:23 AM

    Tsunki

    Spot on there. Tiote is not the antidote, but one is needed in January.Preferably one who can lead / talk.

  • 40 sing in the corner // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:25 AM

    Sparky

    Exactly.
    I can only assume they want to accelerate him into the frame to secure a sell-on spotlight for January?

  • 41 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:30 AM

    sing in the corner…seems strange when he is so obviously such a weak link and the way the club have treated so many other players who were signed in around the same time as him by the same management.

    He’s done nothing but show disloyalty and contempt to the club…and deep down he know’s he’s finished which means it’s all just about the money for him.

    No headline news there then

  • 42 Tsunki // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:30 AM

    Well SM did say he was using games to find out weaknesses, you’d think the derby would be where the results of his experimentation would have to be brought to bear. Dummett still not good enough at RB, Janmaat & Haidara to stay awake and keep a rein on going forward ( always a problem with our full backs), midfield to Harry theirs tirelessly off the ball, retain possession in favour of the tiresome ‘ magic ball ‘ forward, even if this means long periods of to-and-fro play along the back because this frustrates and tires the opposition. This last bit is important because we do more miles than any other team because we have it done to us week in week out. Oh and don’t expect our forwards to constantly track back. This shouldn’t be necessary if our midfield just does it’s job!

  • 43 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:34 AM

    SITC

    That last post of mine was re Colo…with reference yours @ 40…yes…I agree…I think Tiote will be on his way and they’re hoping to add some value onto his transfer fee by getting him more involved…but that’s a risky play and more proof it’s more about than money at our club than anything else.

  • 44 Tsunki // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:36 AM

    I think it’s a bit simplistic to call signings like Kluivert ‘trophy’ signings. They weren’t all dire, but their most important asset was their name. They brought a kudos to the club, and they without doubt retained bums on seats. It may be thought of as a FFS weakness but these big signings were about more than football. The Shearer signing was the pinnacle, because we got the big name, the Local Hero attachment AND we got a damn fine footballer to go with it.

  • 45 sing in the corner // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:36 AM

    Sparky

    I’m not sure he’s even a really weak link, my main point is he’s pretty much an unknown quantity now that he’s been out of the picture for a while. Anybody else would have had a run in the reserves to build up fitness and form. But we just don’t know if he can be counted on right now. Especially for the derby game. Anita isn’t a strong choice, but we know he’s fit, on the pace. We pretty much can guarantee Tiote isn’t.

  • 46 AncientC // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:38 AM

    sparky55 – It doesn’t say much for Anita when the manager would rather opt to start Tiote who isn’t fully fit.

    I completely agree with you on Tiote’s misgivings btw, I just don’t think Anita is better.

    There was a moment in the Norwich game where a cross was coming in towards Mbokani and Mbokani got in front of Colo. Tiote ran across like a Gazelle and cut the cross out to save Colo’s blushes.

    Not everything about Tiote is pirouettes.

  • 47 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:39 AM

    Tsunki

    Maybe our season starts tomorrow 🙂 …maybe everything until now has been done simply to find the best combo/ tactics to put the unwashed to the sword tomorrow…maybe SM is far more cunning than any of us could possibly have imagined…maybe Norwich was a fluke…who knows …but I’m not confident…especially if tiote and Colo start tomorrow.

  • 48 sing in the corner // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:39 AM

    Sparky @43

    Ah, makes sense now,so forget my @45 🙂

  • 49 Tsunki // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:40 AM

    OK I’ll call a spade a spade. Tiote should not be included in the derby day squad. The End.

  • 50 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:43 AM

    Careful Tsunki…we could get the Blog police showing you a yellow with that one… and it’s been nice and peaceful this morning without a certain presence!

  • 51 Goofy // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:44 AM

    Anita has a lot more to offer than either Colback or Tiote, he has great vision, doesn’t panic, chases back well and makes clever little attacking passes. Tiotes passing stats doesn’t mean anything when you at his form, he receives the ball takes to long to control it, makes stupid asses in front of our back four, (lost count how many times) he’s to clumsy and always passes back or sideways offering nothing to the midfield but chaos. Colback is good at the tackle when he’s not a yard of the pace but always seems to panic when he has the ball, making my ass clench through anxiety. We definitely need a better holding midfielder.

  • 52 Tsunki // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:48 AM

    Sparky – i’ve been in the fence about SM, always thought of his impending appointment as typically Ashley lacklustre and sideways. But i’ very long since dropped this ‘Ten Games’ lark firstly because look how long we gave Pardew’s dismal reign, second because it was plain to see he was a virtual janitor with a pre season that was not of his conception or desire, with players he had inherited. He may have put a tick in the ‘ yes’ box for some of our signings but he still ended up with a makeshift squad not of his type. I do actually buy the ‘ extended preseason’ idea because it was a good time in a tough calendar to find out what these boys are made of under pressure, not just physically but mentally.

    And now the derby. This is effectively the only ” Cup” we will see this season. It has to be our day. If we don’t come out with any credit, it will put massive pressure on McLaren. But if we don’t and we crumble once again, do we call for his head, or do we join him in shouting for PROPER reinforcements in January? I’ve a sneaking feeling I would do the latter. So far, I don’t think SM has enjoyed the support his predecessor had.

  • 53 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:49 AM

    goofy…spot on…that’s our archilles heel right there…a £15-20 million rated DM would transfer our team into a top eight side…along with a 10 million rated centre half to replace Colombo of course.:-)

    Once these two key positions are sorted I believe we have a squad that could even challenge for a Europa league slot.

  • 54 Tsunki // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:50 AM

    Goofy ha ha I think I’ll call Tiote Kaptain Kaos from now on 🙂

  • 55 check the toastie // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:51 AM

    I am currently so underwhelmed with Anita and Tiote i would consider putting Mbemba into DCM tomoro, bringing Dummett in at Centre Back and Haidara at full back, would make our front six really strong and competitive, obviously we still have a flaky back four but so be it. Think Mbemba would be a revelation in the mixer.

    ——————————Elliot————————-
    Janmaat——-Collo————–Dummett——-Haidara
    ———————Mbemba—–Colback——————
    ——-Sissoko————-Perez———-Wijnaldum—–
    —————————Mitrovic—————————

    Would personally consider dropping Collocini for Williamson, totally useless at defending currently.

  • 56 Tsunki // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:51 AM

    Columbo ha ha it gets better… : D

  • 57 Tsunki // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:53 AM

    Check – worth a shot but on derby day? Quite Quite risk. But if he pulled it off would would would new King!

  • 58 Tsunki // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:53 AM

    Check – worth a shot but on derby day? Quite Quite risk. But if he pulled it off Steve would be the new King!

  • 59 check the toastie // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:54 AM

    I am not usually an advocate of Centre BAcks going in midfield as most cant actually run and lack an engine, but this boy could be the new Marcel Desailly, think hes the Real Deal.

    Should never have got rid of Santon, that was a monumental fcuk Up.

  • 60 Tsunki // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:55 AM

    Quite Quite? Would Would Would? My phone has developed a stutter! 🙁

  • 61 Tsunki // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:56 AM

    Santon? Eeeeeerrrrrhhhhhhhh……..

  • 62 check the toastie // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:56 AM

    Tsunki – you spot on about Tiote mind, hes now officially Shit, Awful footballer and will cost us points everytime hes on the pitch. should be farmed out in January.

  • 63 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:57 AM

    Tsunki

    Can’t really disagree with any of that like…the run up to xmas will determine a lot…whether Ashley sticks, twists, spends a fortune or just sells…there is no such thing as a long term plan in newcastle…it’s month to month and Ashley loves the drug of gambling and last season showed that…he gambled we had enough points when P45 left and we did by the skin of out teeth…and he’s gambling now and loving it…because when you’re as wealthy as he is newcastle going down is going to kill him…he’ll still be well up on the ownership of NUFC and will shrug his shoulders and move on.

    The fans have far more passion than he ever will…you can see at other clubs the owners are kicking every ball and it means everything to them…not to ours…it’s just a advertising hoarding and a means to satisfy his gambling habit.

  • 64 Goofy // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:58 AM

    @sparky.. I’d try dummet with mbemba just for his height, we are going to concede a lot of goals through headers especially from corners, Colo is to small, I’ve always like Colo and can’t blame him completely for the amount of goals we’ve conceded in the last 3-4 years but he’s been guilty of a few blunders. He does offer calmness when has the ball, unlike Williamson who panics if an opposing player is within 10 yards. Give Dummett a go, he looked better in CD than LB.

  • 65 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 11:58 AM

    is = isn’t!

  • 66 AncientC // Oct 24, 2015 at 12:00 PM

    I don’t think a draw is any good against Sunderland.

    Stoke looked impenetrable away to Swansea, horrible to watch though, always giving it back to the keeper who hoofs it up the pitch. We will not get much change for our money out of that game.

    We really need a win at Sunderland – a draw against Stoke would take us into the next fixtures on a good run.

    2 points from the next two games and it is panic stations.

  • 67 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 12:00 PM

    goofy…again I agree…Dummet and M’bemba should be the shape of things to come and they need to be put together sooner rather than later so the right decisions can be made come January

  • 68 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 12:03 PM

    Goofy…and before the Wikipedia merchants jump in with their “he’s not small…he’s 6ft tall”…it’s not that he’s small…he just seems it because he can’t jump and he cowers when there’s anyone near him because he’s a coward.

    …but the sentiment is correct…he’s hopeless defending in the air and positionally which leads to many goals against us for sure.

  • 69 Goofy // Oct 24, 2015 at 12:06 PM

    6ft? He looks tiny, but yeah he doesn’t like the aerial challenge.

  • 70 Tsunki // Oct 24, 2015 at 12:07 PM

    ————————–Plantpot——————–
    Doormat—-Columbo—-Dimwit—–Hairdryer
    —————–LaBamba——-Coalsack———
    ——-Scirocco——–PiriPiri—-Winegum——
    ————————–Nitric———————–

  • 71 The Newcastle Armchair // Oct 24, 2015 at 12:10 PM

    Howay then lads who can predit the 3 o clock scores today

  • 72 The Newcastle Armchair // Oct 24, 2015 at 12:11 PM

    predict*

    I’m getting as bad as Ed these days

  • 73 Goofy // Oct 24, 2015 at 12:15 PM

    Elliot (ouch)
    Mantwat Coco. Dumtit. Hairdryer

    Sadsack. Tatty

    Soccs. Piri piri (by Brian) oven

    demong

  • 74 Our Toon // Oct 24, 2015 at 12:18 PM

    Haidara at LB so he can try to nutmeg more wingers?

  • 75 sparky55 // Oct 24, 2015 at 12:31 PM

    Aston Villa 2 Swansea 1

    Leicester 2 Crystal Palace 2

    Norwich 1 West Brom 2

    Stoke 2 Watford 1

    West Ham 1 Chelsea 2

  • 76 Mag52 // Oct 24, 2015 at 12:46 PM

    If it’s a question of who should play alongside Anita, Tiote or Colback, for me it has to be Colback. He knows what level of effort is expected in the derby match, and he’ll give it.

  • 77 ilovetoon8788 // Oct 24, 2015 at 1:01 PM

    to me simply i haven’t seen the best of tiote and looks out of fitness and long way way off his best. i would stick with anita and colback and slowly bring tiote to fitness.

    the last i’ve seen tiote have a good game is over 2 years ago. fact.

  • 78 defenders needed // Oct 24, 2015 at 1:01 PM

    I was happy with the formation we played last week, for me though sissoko doesn’t track back enough resulting in the first goal last week he is to lazy and this needs addressing. But with our shaky defence been the fact only two knowing what they are doing been janmat and mbemba I would consider a Brendan Rodgers stile play like below. Allowing the full backs to push forward.

    —————————–Eliot—————————
    Janmat—mbemba— colo—dummit—hairdryer
    —-v————————————————-v—–
    ———sissoko———Anita———Gini———-
    ——————–Perez———————————-
    ———————————–Mitro——————–

    But Tiote is no good for us any more, and as much effort colback puts in been the work horse he is, it still doesn’t remove the fact he is a useless footballer. Haidara at left back is a bit sketchy also. January definitely needs investing for a CB a LB and a CDM to replace tiote and use colback as a bench type player. What we could do with is a jonjo shelvey or a cabaye type player who can pin point a pass.

  • 79 ilovetoon8788 // Oct 24, 2015 at 1:03 PM

    and shola has finally found a new club. bolton at the bottom of championship.

    seriously, how on earth he was a starter for us under pardew in the premier league. lol a joke.

  • 80 Thump // Oct 24, 2015 at 1:05 PM

    @Armchair: When your typos consist of spelling “Charlie Austin” constantly, that’s when you’ve gone full Ed.

  • 81 toonking // Oct 24, 2015 at 1:18 PM

    having hairdryer as a LB is the last thing we need at this moment in time. Hairdryer might push himself forward more frequently than dummett but he’s only had 2 assists during his spell at newcastle which isn’t enough as a player who struggles to ever get back. Janmaat himself frequently will fail to get back but atleast he’ll provide some assists and goals when getting forward.

  • 82 catchy in norway // Oct 24, 2015 at 1:24 PM

    Perez is the key tomorrow , 3 – 0 to us

  • 83 Our Toon // Oct 24, 2015 at 1:25 PM

    Tiote may not have played well for 2 years according to some but Anita has never played well in a black and white shirt ever.

  • 84 toonking // Oct 24, 2015 at 1:27 PM

    I think the debate over weather tiote should or shouldn’t start reflects back and points out how poor our width selection is, wij and sissoko (especially) are two players who’d prefer remaining forward what they need is some proper winger who’ll work aloneside his full back both attackingly and defencively whilst these two had a more central role where they’ll have less ground to cover in defencive terms and get an easier chance when breaking forward now they’ll have less players to break and not used as much running up and down the whole pitch.

  • 85 jane // Oct 24, 2015 at 1:31 PM

    Aston Villa v Swansea – draw or Swansea

    Leicester v Crystal Palace – draw or Crystal Palace

    Norwich v West Brom – draw

    Stoke v Watford – Stoke

    West Ham v Chelsea – over 2.5 goals

  • 86 AncientC // Oct 24, 2015 at 2:16 PM

    https://twitter.com/CPFC/status/657904379878592512

    Looks like the Palace fans are starting to get a bit frustrated with Pardew’s team selections. (They have it all ahead of them)

  • 87 gonufc (Newcastle United Sports Direct Advertising Club) // Oct 24, 2015 at 2:18 PM

    Victor Valdes?!?! NO NO NO NO NO NO no NO no NO no NO no NO no NO please no.

    Just please, no.

    Over rated because of the team he was in. Awful at crosses. Poor handling. Bad concentration. Too much money. Possibly poor application/ motivation.

    I used to watch loads of spanish football and couldn’t believe when people here talked about him as a “Top Keeper” just because he played for Barca. It’s amazing how little so many of the pundits know about any football outside the Premier league.

    Plus, I highly doubt he’s gonna join a worse team than Manchester United and still be a no. 2.

  • 88 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 2:28 PM

    So Thauvin, where does he fit in? Can he get a game? Is he too piss weak to play in the Premier League.
    I’m not his biggest fan. The only spot I can see him taking in the team is to come on as a sub for Perez and play up top in a 442. Think he might play reasonably well there, he certainly looks crap on the wing but did an ok job under difficult circumstances against Arsenal basically up top on his own after Mitro was sent off.
    Still wish we hadnt bought him but as we spunked mucho cash on him then we need to find some way of utilising him.

  • 89 SUTTY1978 // Oct 24, 2015 at 2:31 PM

    Ancient, it’s the beginning of a wonderful journey for the Palace fans, a descent into “WTF is he playing three defensive midfielders?” And “why’s he bringing on a LB for a striker when we are 2-0 down at home?”. Good times….

  • 90 gonufc (Newcastle United Sports Direct Advertising Club) // Oct 24, 2015 at 2:33 PM

    I have no idea what’s going on with Thauvin.

    We got Cabella. People say he’s too weak, so he has a season getting used to the league.

    We then go to buy Thauvin to get a better version of Cabella more suited to the PL.

    So we use Cabella to get Thauvin.

    Thauvin is then never played as he’s deemed too weak, so needs a season to get used to the league.

    What the hell are they doing?!?

  • 91 toonking // Oct 24, 2015 at 2:36 PM

    antient

    I thought this was a newcastle blog not a pardew blog.

    like ourtoon would say go support palace yourself and talk with them fans

  • 92 goommy // Oct 24, 2015 at 3:28 PM

    Really wanna see Mbabu play on DM. I think he’ll be excellent there.




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