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Another Disaster For Newcastle – Lose 3-0 To Sunderland

2:33 pm, Sunday, October 25th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 66 Comments

A Newcastle team once again let their fans down as they slid to a 3-0 defeat at Sunderland today, to hand Sunderland their first win of the season and their sixth successive win against Newcastle – the first time this has happened in the history of the  derby game which stretches back 120 years.

And it’s ironic that during this time Sunderland have been fighting against relegation and started this game bottom of the league but move above Newcastle on goal difference.

And this is the fourth time in a row that a new Sunderland manager has beaten Newcastle in their second game in charge.

And after the first half before three minutes if added time  Newcastle had been dominant and Sunderland looked absolutely hopeless.

But we were 1-0 down at the break with 10 men.

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fletcher scored 3rd goal

Steven Fletcher scores 3rd goal
That’s 22 goals conceded in 10 games


It looked only a matter of time before Newcastle scored,  but then Coloccini was sent off for what looked like an innocuous push on Steven Fletcher – but the Sunderland striker went flying as if he had been hit by a freight train -and the referee gave a penalty.

But it was not a clear goal scoring opportunity because it always looked like goalkeeper Rob Elliot would get to the ball first – but the referee thought it was – and off went Coloccini.

We should have a  good chance of getting that overturned on appeal – otherwise it’s three games out for the Newcastle captain.

Johnson scored from the spot and after having dominated the game up to that point,  Newcastle went in at 1-0 down  with 10 men – well that’s a good way to allows Sunderland their first win.

The penalty was Sunderland’s only shot on target in that first half.

The truth is that even in the second half Newcastle looked the better side with ten men – but that means nothing when you lose 3-0 to the bottom side and that’s their first win and they scored three goals in the process.

The only thing that ever matters in a derby game is the result in any case – not how each team played.

This is the third time this season that a Newcastle player has been sent off in the first half and in those three games we have lost every one of them and failed to score.

That’s a lack of discipline which is what we suffered from under John Carver.

But this Newcastle team find too many ways to lose games – even when we play well like today – and that’s what is so worrying because after last week’s two steps forward this was at least two steps back.

It’s certainly the worst possible result and the score in now way reflects on the game – but the truth is we lost again for the sixth time running.

Before this game Sunderland had only scored 8 goals in 9 games and as we said in our preview – they don’t seem to have trouble scoring against Newcastle.

Mitrovic had a great chance in the second half with the score at 1-0 to draw level but his shot was saved – but it was a great chance – that could have changed the game around.

But then after 65 minutes Sunderland went 2-0 when Billy Jones scored rather easily and then after 86 minutes Steve Fletcher scored to make it 3-0.

Who would have predicted a 3-0 Sunderland win in this game?

The Newcastle team have badly let down their supporters in terms of the result – and we suppose we were unlucky – but you make your own luck in this game – and if you are as fragile as this Newcastle team – and get some bad luck in a game – that’s usually curtains.

That comment by Mike Ashley about making our own luck from now on – we had assumed that meant good luck not bad luck.

This is the worst possible result for Newcastle United and Sunderland move above us in the league on goals difference and we have now conceded 22 goals in the first 10 games of the season.

That’s the worst defensive record in the Premier League.

Didn’t we know we have had a weak defense in the summer and have had a poor defense for three years.

This is a terrible result for Steve McClaren and he’ll soon be running out of excuses as to why we keep losing games – even when we play well.

We have lost six of the first 10 games of the season and have 6 points and are in 19th place, above only Aston Villa who sacked their manager Tim Sherwood today.

This year in 29 league games we have lost 18.

Teams:

Sunderland: Pantilimon, Yedlin, O’Shea (Coates, 37), Kaboul, Jones, Cattermole, M’Vila, Toivonen (Defoe, 36), Johnson, Lens (Larsson, 82), Fletcher. Subs not used: Mannone, van Aanholt, Gomez, Watmore.

Newcastle: Elliot; Janmaat, Coloccini, Mbemba, Dummett (Thauvin, 78); Sissoko, Colback (Anita, 49), Tiote (Lascelles, 46), Wijnaldum; Perez, Mitrovic. Subs not used: Woodman, Haidara, de Jong, Cisse.

Goals: Johnson 45 (pen), Jones 65, Fletcher 86
Bookings: Tiote 14, Colback 45
Sent off: Coloccini 45
Referee: Robert Madley (Wakefield)

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66 responses so far ↓

  • 1 John Tudor // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:36 PM

    obviously a makam tw@t on here

  • 2 Shadow_Shearer // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:36 PM

    I don’t care what anybody says, it was never a penalty or red card. Elliot was favourite to win the ball. Even if fletcher was meeting the ball, which he was always second favourite for, he still had alot of work to do. Referee cost us the game

  • 3 John Tudor // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:37 PM

    make that two or more even fcukin scum

  • 4 TheToonKing // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:37 PM

    worst feeling ever. the ONLY way they were going to get anything today.

    Ref and Colo ruined it.

    I’m starting the get really fed up with referees. Mitro against Arsenal , not read card, today, not a red card.

    Ref and Colo ruined it. we were the better team by a mile.

  • 5 Jail for Ashley // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:37 PM

    A disaster never the less !

  • 6 davetoon // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:38 PM

    Just watched it another couple of times and every time I am 100% convinced that Elliot takes the ball. If anything Fletcher would have fouled Elliot

  • 7 Beavis // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:38 PM

    My thoughts exactly John Tudor – most one sided & lucky 3-0 defeat that ive ever witnessed. If any good is to come of it then hopefully it’s that Coloccini will be dropped once & for all.

  • 8 nut meg // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:38 PM

    repost
    It’s always been known as a shoulder charge,that’s what Collo done, a shoulder charge…have they changed the rules? If not then it wasn’t a foul.

  • 9 davetoon // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:39 PM

    * thank you Ed. Just read your article.

  • 10 jane // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:40 PM

    poor judgement by Coloccini soon as I saw it I thought that’s a pen. one of those days, it happens. at least there were positives and Bournemouth are losing.

  • 11 toonking // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:41 PM

    repost

    This season could be the most difficult season yet for those battling relegation, looking at the table itself you’ve got ourselves, scums, villa, norwich and bornmoth after that it’s chelsea, stoke watford and liverpool. Watford should be joining up but already 17th place needs 2 wins+1 draw, the other 3 i’d say are certain to suvive.

  • 12 Jail for Ashley // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:41 PM

    Can we have a curb on people adding the word toon into their usernames, I can’t keep up with the toonses !

  • 13 John Tudor // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:41 PM

    5 votes for colo your taking the 9155

  • 14 Shadow_Shearer // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:41 PM

    Colo the quiet man sees red for shoulder barge, Johnson the dirty groomer runs the full length of the pitch as a celebration, not even a ticking off!!!

  • 15 manxpie // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:43 PM

    lilo it certainly wasn’t a clear goal scoring opportunity especially from where the ref was
    lacelles did exactly the same on defoe on the touchline not a foul why is that then if its in the rules

  • 16 Shadow_Shearer // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:43 PM

    If catermole had done the same, ref would have waved play on

  • 17 will die for the toon army // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:45 PM

    We have all got wat we wtd. Next gane we wont have Colo we will have a new Captain and a new CB. so anyone whi gets his chance shld take it with both hands.

    Penalty or No penalty am hurt coz we played really well Tiote is not the man we need and Colo today killed everything I had for or any chance. Mcca said after Mitroz red that u shld nver put a ref in such a situation.

    Lasceles shld take his chance. Let me ask who finished Captain???????

  • 18 Tsunki // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:46 PM

    it’s always been a problem keeping up with the Toonses.

  • 19 WWSBRD // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:46 PM

    Another 6 pointer loss bit worrying really

  • 20 John Tudor // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:46 PM

    or booked for a dive ss

  • 21 Moonraker15 // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:46 PM

    Referees are influencing results far too many times. This happens less in Spain where sending off is a last resort. A penalty was harsh but sending off more or less gives them the game, 1 nil up at home; that is the ONLY way they could win today; they are absolute shite!

  • 22 Shadow_Shearer // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:46 PM

    Any news on colback?? Is he injured. By catermole mite I add..!

  • 23 Tsunki // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:46 PM

    Maybe Steve should insist all our players grow extremist beards.

  • 24 Shadow_Shearer // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:48 PM

    Feel sorry for the lads, they worked there ass off on the pitch today, & got nothing in return

  • 25 John Tudor // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:48 PM

    does perez shave?

  • 26 lochinvar // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:49 PM

    Anagram of Colo is Loco
    Anagram of Ref is Twat

  • 27 manxpie // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:50 PM

    tsunki haha only problem is perez would never be able to grow one and god forbid seeing colback with a ginger one!!

  • 28 chicousa // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:50 PM

    Will die,
    Janmaat wore the armband. Should keep it!

  • 29 goommy // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:50 PM

    Referee is main reason and really cost us today. But it’s also Colo fault that let Fletcher run freely too. For me I have to say that tackle wasn’t a wise choice. He can just clear the ball out or told Elliot to come out and get the ball but no..

    And another one that I really hate to see him play is Colback. Always out of pace and walking around here and there. He can’t do shit with both attack and defence duty.

  • 30 Tsunki // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:50 PM

    OK everyone but Perez. And maybe Anita because he would just look like a Guardsmans hat. And Colbacks would be distracting to team mates. But everyone else should grow beards.

  • 31 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:51 PM

    Manx,
    I don’t think either were a foul. As I stated, but if the ref thinks what Colo did was a foul, it is a red.

    I don’t think a shoulder is a red. Ever. People who like to bash Colo are jumping on a bandwagon without substance.

    For me, not a foul, just stronger and prior to thathe had been comfortable against their attack

  • 32 Tsunki // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:51 PM

    Manxpie Touché! 🙂

  • 33 toonking // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:52 PM

    JFA

    it can’t be that hard man, it’s only really myself and the Toon King that would be difficult to tell apart.

    just go with it like you would if a team had lots of coles, just base it on the other part of the name joe, ashley and andy.

  • 34 Shadow_Shearer // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:52 PM

    We will just have to get the scum back at St James park

  • 35 Tsunki // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:52 PM

    Goommy dead right about colback.

  • 36 awesome_fumaca // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:53 PM

    Weird article Ed. On the one hand you say that we dominated (which we did) and that the pen and red card were dubious (which they were) yet, on the other hand, the team let the fans down? Sunderland were awful from start to finish and we deserved to win comfortably. How about you recognise that it was simply bad luck today that resulted in the loss.

  • 37 davetoon // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:53 PM

    “We were the better side by a distance. We controlled it, created chances and never looked like giving away anything at the back. Even with 10 men in the second half we still controlled it. Referee decisions are out of your control. The defining moments were two ref decision he got wrong. Gini Wijnaldum’s ball was handballed by Lee Cattermole and the penalty for them was never a penalty. The penalty and red card was a double whammy. In the first half the team were excellent. I was totally relaxed. We were in control. I said to players that’s what we must continue. If we continue doing that and get decisions right then we’ll do OK.”
    Steve McClaren

  • 38 Moonraker15 // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:53 PM

    Colo should’ve let Elliott come and take it; actually Elliott should’ve been screaming for it as he was always gonna be favourite for it anyway. But the ref can’t send off Colo it will be reduced to yellow on appeal.

  • 39 John Tudor // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    no bandwagon he lost whatever he had two seasons ago when he went nobbin about

  • 40 Slank // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:55 PM

    This was a hollow victory for them and Big Sam must know it.

    Sunderland were dreadful. Even when we were down to 10 men we still outplayed them.

    I take encouragement from our overall performance. The passing and movement were very good, possibly made to look so good by Sunderland’s poor performance.

    I can’t see Sunderland escaping relegation, whereas we will move up the table. Our 4-4-2 formation looks right and all the players look very comfortable playing within that system.

  • 41 Small World // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:57 PM

    1 John Tudor // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:36 PM
    obviously a makam tw@t on here

    I’ve had Toon KK’s card marked for some time

  • 42 Moonraker15 // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:58 PM

    Ed, I disagree the team did not let the club or fans down today! We have weaknesses that we all know about but it was a good performance!

  • 43 manxpie // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:58 PM

    lilo i see wat ya saying but again it all points to the ref absolutley bottling it

    i think the rule needs to change as a penalty is the punishment especially when a career ending tackle is the same punishment in a red card its ridiculous

    the best bit is the ref pointing out all cattermoles fouls and then still not booking him also ridiculous tiote was booked after 2!

  • 44 Blackley and Brownlie // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:58 PM

    I’ve tried to google the shoilder charge rule. Can’t find it. Jib, come on lad. Make yourself useful.

  • 45 MrShort88 // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:58 PM

    Killer decision by the ref! Elliot should of taken control of the situation in my opinion, left it to Colo and the rest is history. Still seriously lacking cutting edge and that killer instinct. Should of been ahead in the 1st half. Sissoko is seriously overrated. As for Tiote … He should of gone a long time ago! SMB

  • 46 Small World // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:59 PM

    Slank // Oct 25, 2015 at 2:55 PM

    Couldn’t agree more, though I think we’re going to be bumping along / struggling all season.

    Deny S**nderland the 3 point at our place this year and they’re down

  • 47 Blackley and Brownlie // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:00 PM

    Souness talking about the contrast between this manchester game and ours. Much quicker showing how much better the players are.

  • 48 toonking // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:00 PM

    don’t know why colo get’s any votes, might be welsh and his multi accounts doing a vote but we’ll never know.

    The bst reason i’d give colo MOTM is we won’t have to put up with him in text next time, I like a curley whirley better.

  • 49 Small World // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:00 PM

    Blackley and Brownley:

    From the BBC website

    The Football Association’s law on impeding an opponent says: ” A player who places himself between an opponent and the ball for tactical reasons has not committed an offence as long as the ball is kept within playing distance and the player does not hold off the opponent with his arms or body.

    “If the ball is within playing distance, the player may be fairly charged by an opponent.”

  • 50 nut meg // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:02 PM

    moonraker15
    I agree with you there,a bit silly from Ed imo.

  • 51 Shadow_Shearer // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:02 PM

    I just watched it again, you can say fletcher either made the most of it, or dived. Never a penalty & should have played on

  • 52 Small World // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:03 PM

    Also – small crumb of comfort from today. Colo is banned for 3 games. It must be an incentive for one of the stand ins to step up to to the plate – play blinders and not give him his place back

  • 53 Fostino // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:03 PM

    Fat sams face sickens me in his interview. At least he acknowledged they got lucky.as did Adam Johnson sleazy face when he scored

  • 54 Tsunki // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:03 PM

    Ed you got that spurious comment in there about the team letting themselves down wrong, sorry. Perhaps a good idea to edit that out it doesn’t fit.

  • 55 will die for the toon army // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:04 PM

    Guys who finished Captain??????????

  • 56 davetoon // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:05 PM

    A foul in the box is not an automatic red.

  • 57 Toon Tang // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:06 PM

    If wor Mitro makes it 1 all, they would have crumbled and we would’ve gone on to win that piece of piss.

    Yes ref had a shitter with the sending off 100%, but Colo should never in a million months of Sundays given him even a glimpse of the rabbit. Really bad bit of decision making that cost us the game.

  • 58 manxpie // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:06 PM

    cant wait for him to ref a home game for us he is gonna get the worst abuse ya can ever imagine i reckon, doubt it will be this season now tho but will be interesting to see

  • 59 Fostino // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:07 PM

    Players did let the fans down. They lost the game again. That’s a fact.

  • 60 Thump // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:07 PM

    Having had a bit of time to think, I honestly don’t know how we lost that. We absolutely hammered them the first half and should have put the game to bed long before the penalty decision.

    Speaking of penalties, why didn’t we get one for the clothesline on Gini? And how exactly did Cattermole see the game through? I lost count at 8 fouls.

  • 61 Slank // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:08 PM

    Shadow

    ‘..fletcher either made the most of it…’

    That’s what forwards are supposed to do. We would be very dissapointed if Mitro didn’t do it in similar circumstances.

  • 62 Toon Tang // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:10 PM

    Was too clumsy looking eh and Fletcher is one of them players that spends 90% of the game on the deck rolling round. Thought he was some big tough Scotsman, he looks like he belongs in the SA leagues with all them stop drop rolls he was pulling.

  • 63 Tsunki // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:11 PM

    More I think about it what went wrong with the pen was Fletcher not being tracked properly, too slow to head him off, next Elliot did not fancy diving forward to collect and getting his head stoved in. Next, when Colo had Fletcher at his shoulder he should have gone down – he may not have got the foul, but his falling body would have shielded the ball as Elliot gathered. Poor show from curlilocks. . And Plantpot

    What went wrong even before all this was cattermole being given the keys to the refs lounge.

  • 64 nut meg // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:13 PM

    Small World @48
    That’s what Collo done,a should charge and on this occasion he was the stronger player.Referee cost us big time.

  • 65 Munster Mag // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:15 PM

    To me its a peno. It looks more like a charge than an “ease” which was amply shown by both mbemba and lascalles in the second half. Colo was too slow. This is a good chance for smc to dump him because colo has so much political support in the club. Apart from that i thought we were v good. Huge progress on psrdews football and levels of commitment

  • 66 Jib // Oct 25, 2015 at 3:18 PM

    http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/laws/football-11-11/law-12—fouls-and-misconduct.aspx

    This is the rule it comes under and like so much in soccer it is very vague and left to the judgement of the ref whether excess force was used.




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