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Pundit Tweets – If Ever A 3-0 Scoreline Didn´t Tell A Story

11:15 pm, Sunday, October 25th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 55 Comments

After the amazing 3-0 Sunderland win on Sunday at the Stadium of Light against Newcastle BBC pundit and former England striker Gary Lineker tweeted that 3-0 certainly didn’t tell the story of the game  after Newcastle had completely dominated the first half.

But then just before half time Fabricio Coloccini was sent off for giving away what in the first place was a dubious penalty.

And then the referee showed him the red card and that´s one way of wrecking a derby game.

gary linekar

Gary Linekar – BBC pundit

Lastly there was no need for the Coloccini challenge against Steven Fletcher, since Elliot was always going to get there first. which Gary rightly points out.

It´s par for the course these days for the managers to complain  about referee´s decisions – especially when they lose – but our players shouldn´t give the ref any chance to make bad decisions – Colo shouldn´t have put in the challenge.

Our players have to become a lot smarter and not throw games like this away – it was the third time we had a player see red in the first half this season.

And we had our hearts in our mouths that the reckless Cheick Tiote would pick up a second yellow card in the first half – and it was a big risk by McClaren to leave him on the field as long as he did.

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55 responses so far ↓

  • 1 jimmysmith // Oct 25, 2015 at 11:27 PM

    On what I’ve seen the side will most likely play itself out of this hole, but we need two or three windows like the last, and if we don’t get them, the fans should be loudly asking why. But we are in a hole, no doubt about it.

  • 2 jane // Oct 25, 2015 at 11:28 PM

    you can tell from they way Elliot was setting himself to collect the ball that he thought he was going to get the ball first. if he thought he wasn’t going to get the ball he would have been preparing to spread himself.

  • 3 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 25, 2015 at 11:55 PM

    So what just happened today?

  • 4 Munster Mag // Oct 25, 2015 at 11:56 PM

    A lot of positives to see today, although the number of serious chances were not that numerous. Still, our football was the best i have seen in a long time. Three 10/15 mill players can change this team in a really positive way. We have to be careful how we put too much onus on Perez and Wini ( injuries here will hurt us badly) but to axe SMC would be daft now, and it wont happen anyway. Sunderland look crap, but Allardyce has loads of time to same them, and I think he will, sadly.

  • 5 sparky55 // Oct 26, 2015 at 12:00 AM

    Just got back in from the rugby so missed the clusterfcuk that was today…

    what was the starting team…did he start tiote and Colo…and who started left back?

  • 6 Lindisfarne // Oct 26, 2015 at 12:03 AM


  • 7 sparky55 // Oct 26, 2015 at 12:11 AM

    no wonder we lost then…makes you wonder what goes on in peoples heads…why on gods earth was Colo and Tiote anywhere near that team

  • 8 sparky55 // Oct 26, 2015 at 12:14 AM

    hahahaha…just read Colo was sent off…straight red…that’s in a bizarre way fantastic news for the development of this team cos he’ll have to play dummet next to Mbemba now and I hear Colback is injured too so it’ll probably be tiote and Anita in the middle against stoke…much better…just you watch

  • 9 Essex Geordie Bill // Oct 26, 2015 at 12:54 AM

    Does anyone know what the hospitality facilities are like for refs at St James Park. Got to be something upsetting them!!!

    Probably been said already but why weren’t any yellow cards flourished in the first five minutes for Sunderland players and how did Cattermole get away scott free.

    I was seething at the ref, he was hopeless.

  • 10 Munster Mag // Oct 26, 2015 at 1:11 AM

    Sparky, anita v colback….little between them.we need a serious central midfielder in the 15 mill category to move us on. Am optimistic. And a bit pissed :). Bank hol tomorrow. Htl!

  • 11 Bobbybee // Oct 26, 2015 at 1:14 AM

    Lascelles didn’t do much wrong when he came on and won a good few headers. When this kid finishes his development we might have a real gem up our sleeve. He’s English as well – bonus – and another part to that high quality players we have of under or around 21. As these lads mature together we’ll have a team that knows each other inside out. Armstrong, Aarons, Dummitt, Mbemba, Mbabu, Thauvin, Mitrovic, Toney, Woodman, Perez, Sahkta
    Callum Roberts – who’ve all had first team action. Giliead. The list goes on. Add to these some signings of the callibre of Mbemba, Wijnaldum and Mitrovic Krul – jury still out on Thauvin -and that starts to look like a canny team. No quick fix, but a couple of seasons and we’re almost there. 😉

  • 12 terencelim // Oct 26, 2015 at 2:17 AM

    Same results under the same owner.

  • 13 Santon03 // Oct 26, 2015 at 3:26 AM

    we won 5-1 under the same owner

  • 14 Santon03 // Oct 26, 2015 at 3:37 AM

    I don’t think Elliot was going to get the ball tbh, best 50-50.
    It was the same sort of challenge when the ball near outside line they protect the ball to get corner or goal kick or throw in.
    Colo was trying to get his body in front of the ball but Fletcher was quicker than him. It’s very soft penalty imo, if it was deemed to be goal scoring chance the ball was moving away from 6 yard area not toward.
    Anyway it’s done and we lost again, I can take this lost because we were playing good football and the team turned up trying to win.
    I can forgive this lost, let’s hope no lost #7.

  • 15 optimistic prime // Oct 26, 2015 at 3:53 AM

    The ref was a joke!

    Cattermole gave more fouls away than our entire team combined and no yellow.

    Caught Colback twice, caught Tiote, knee’d Perez in the back blah blah blah!

    The ref should be sacked after a display like that, disgrace! I’d go as far as to call him a CHEAT!!!!

  • 16 nut meg // Oct 26, 2015 at 4:56 AM

    IMHO the ref was weak throughout the game. But, he really messed up with 2 big bad decisions 30 seconds apart. He got off to a poor start by not stamping his authority on the game early on, 3 robust fouls in the opening 90 seconds by Sunderland players should have been enough for him to act,he didn’t. Instead it gave a licence to Cattermole to do as he pleased without any kind of punishment, and he did ! He was only 5 yds away with a clear view when Cattermole jumped into the back of Perez and kneed him in the side. A stone wall penalty totally ingnored and 30 seconds later he couldn’t blow his whistle quick enough to award a penalty against us and add to that a sending off. If referees are judged by getting the big decisions right then this referee failed miserably for me.Will we see him in the PL at the week-end.??

  • 17 nut meg // Oct 26, 2015 at 5:01 AM

    ingnored = ignored

  • 18 optimistic prime // Oct 26, 2015 at 5:18 AM

    A strange as the refs decisions yesterday are the people claiming Alardyce will keep the scum up.

    They were outplayed by ten men yesterday and played like the away team, to claim fat Sam will keep them up is a bit of a stretch of anyone’s imagination.

  • 19 go toon goooo // Oct 26, 2015 at 5:29 AM

    Poor result for two poor teams at the moment.Table says everything.Sad but true.

  • 20 Klatoon // Oct 26, 2015 at 5:52 AM

    in th midst of the anger and feeling if injustice, it was easy not to see how impressive Sissoko and Gini looked in CM after the break, too bad we were short in numbers but maybe some food for thought for MC before Stoke

  • 21 go toon goooo // Oct 26, 2015 at 6:02 AM

    Sissoko is a waste of space in his role.He is DM not game creator(hasn’t brain for that).He is the most responsible for our defeats.Janmaat also.Colback is average as well.McLaren has a lot of unfinished job with these three players in the future.If he doesn’t correct this we are simply not PL quality.

  • 22 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 26, 2015 at 6:27 AM

    Everyone is focussing on the ref and penalty decision, but the ball should never have got there in the first place. We had 4 players near Defoe, and not one of them closed him down or put pressure on. They allowed him space and time to pick out the through ball which lead to the decision being made.

    I think the 4 were Tiote, Colback, Janmaat and Mbemba. In that situation Colback or Tiote should be closing him down and not giving him time – I think more Colback given the positions of the 4 players at the time. There was plenty of cover for him, and someone should be screaming at him to press the ball, not back off continually.

  • 23 Reyantoon // Oct 26, 2015 at 6:44 AM

    I think Colo was at fault.He lost his head.I don’t think that is a shoulder shoulder challenge.It was a bit like bullying a man.Imo it was a foul.
    If it was a foul,then it is penalty.But don’t think he should be red carded.
    We dominated the game.we should have scored and killed the game when we were on top early on.We looked confused upfront as to how to score a goal.We could have scored couple easily.Failed to do that and we punished.
    Sunderland were poor,very poor.Difficult to accept how we lost it.We were in bad luck yes’y.
    Looked everything goes against us.Even the match commentator said “Newcastle are excellent.their plan was spot on.The only thing they failed to execute was scoring… “.
    We can say were robbed,i definitely agree.but If u watch the replay,Colo let the team down,even though i’m not his biggest critic 🙁

  • 24 optimistic prime // Oct 26, 2015 at 6:54 AM


    Even though I thought we played well and the ref was shocking the only positive I really see is Colback and Colo are out of the team for a few games. I see both as weak links in the side.

    I agree with what you say regarding closing Defoe down but I thought we should have had a penalty ourselves before they broke.

    It def wasn’t a red and people would argue all day over it being a pen or not but what got me was Sunderland from the kick off were late into nearly every challenge. Cattermole made so many fouls I lost count, the ref warned him beginning of 2nd half then allowed him to make several more then warned him again. The biggest controversy for me was how did not one of their players receive a card.

    Possibly the worst Sunderland team I’ve seen and IMO the best team lost.

  • 25 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 26, 2015 at 6:55 AM

    We should have done more when we were on top. We didn’t create enough, and on a couple of occasions players were selfish when the pas was by far the better option. We didn’t get a goal when we were completely in charge, and we were punished for it.

    I disagree that it was a penalty or a red card, but I wouldn’t just put it down to bad luck. We didn’t do enough either, and we allowed them to create the opportunity for the penalty.

    Another incredibly disheartening result for us.

    It will be interesting to see who gets the nod to play alongside Mbemba next week. Lascelles, Dummet, Willo, Mbabu? I’d probably choose Lascelles from that group or switch Dummet in from left back.

  • 26 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:00 AM

    Yeah, I couldn’t understand how Cattermole didn’t get a booking, yet Tiote’s second foul was booked after getting a warning for the first.

    Still, I think we should have done more, we controlled possession and play, but didn’t ever really hurt them. Some poor decision making from our players when we were in good positions cost us dearly in the first half, and that continued in the second half as well.

  • 27 Ron Knee // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:08 AM

    Can we get three points out of the Stoke match? We’d bloody better!

  • 28 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:09 AM

    Something like this should just not happen but still it keeps happening…

  • 29 optimistic prime // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:12 AM

    I’d agree with that, a few times a simple pass would have us in on goal but a extra touch or a shot spoiled the opening.

    At the same time we were completley in control they’d only had 1 shot on goal, I thought we were doing the right thing by not going to gung-ho and the goal would eventually come, no one expected that the game would be turned on it’s head.

    Even with 10 men they didn’t really hurt us, the scorline more than flattered them.
    Their 2nd 3rd were more luck than judgement and more down to us trying to get back in the game than good play in there part.

    They’re a very poor side.

  • 30 Toonfan8 // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:13 AM

    We have to win at home, we need this win against Stoke…We have good team, we just need to take our chances…Mitro,Perez,Wijny and Sissoko are all looking good, we need to find the best CM at the moment, I cant see why we let Abeid go…we need now CM if not two, for me personally none of Tiote,Colback and Anita is good enough to be a starter…one great holding CM and one creative CM…Cabaye type and Carrick type….and strong CB

  • 31 Jail for Ashley // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:13 AM

    An injustice but self inflicted from a Collocini led defence that has been proved to be consistently one of the worst in the league, how a hopeful punt up field turned into the calamity it did is beyond me, we can go round and round in circles wondering why a more commanding CB wasn’t brought in and more so why Collocini was given an extension and the armband, if Mclaren can’t see this we’re in deep trouble, if he can see it but has accepted he has no input on such matters then we are in deep trouble.

  • 32 optimistic prime // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:19 AM


    Was Toonbrother on yesterday?

  • 33 catchy in norway // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:19 AM

    Very disappointed in a lot of things from the game , but not with the application of the players , the players just didn’t put the ball in the net and that is the only thing they did wrong.

    People can come on here all day and say it was colos fault , but in truth that would be very harsh, he went in with his shoulder , it’s not like it was a rash swipe, it was probably only a little harder than what Chancel did on Defoe.
    What was worse what Catermole did in his box or what Colo did, it was no contest Catermole handled , yes by accident but it was imeadietly followed by a an arm aeon the neck holding Gini back.

    The constant fouls that Catermole was getting away with was just disgraceful, wiping both Perez out with a knee in the back and the naughty follow through on Colback .

    One thing i was left thinking after the game was, we are going to be safe , teams like Norwich Bournmouth Villa and Scumderland are all much worse teams than us, it took a ref for Sunderland to beat us which brings me to my last point , they are saying that Sham is working his magic there , unless sham is a Jedi master using mind tricks on the ref , all I see yesterday was a very poor footballing team.

    Gutted but for me the team played well and everyone saw/ seen that

  • 34 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:19 AM

    Yeah, they were very poor. Their 3rd goal was a well taken breakaway goal mind. 3-0 definitely flattered them, and I’d say that they are still one of the favourites for the drop.

    Players need to not dwell on it too much and focus on Stoke, who have also looked poor so far this season. That is another winnable game, and with Bournemouth leaking goals left right and centre at the moment then I think we need to be getting 2 wins before the international break in November.

  • 35 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:26 AM

    It was hardly a hopeful punt upfield. Defoe collected the ball on the halfway line and our midfield allowed him the freedom of the park and all the time in the world to pick his pass.

    Up until then Colo hadn’t put a foot wrong, he’d won headers and come through to get the ball before an attacker got to it.

    Not saying Colo should still be a mainstay in our defence, but I think it is very harsh to blame him for all and sundry. Defoe should never have been given all that space, and questions have to be asked of the four who just backed off allowing him to do that. Janmaat and Mbemba should have been screaming at Colback to closedown Defoe, but nobody was, and nobody did.

  • 36 optimistic prime // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:26 AM


    I honestly think if Mitrovich had put that chance away start of 2nd half we’d have beaten them with ten men.

    They would have folded like a pack of cards. After watching them yesterday struggle against 10 men I’d be stunned to see them stay up.

    They played like the away side and kept playing that way against 10.

    Big Sham won’t keep them up!

  • 37 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:28 AM

    Relegation hasn’t even crossed my mind yet. We have more than enough in the squad to drag ourselves up and out of this position, and there are many teams who are poor in the Prem.

    It will be interesting to see who Villa appoint as their new manager. Garde and Moyes are the two favourites at the moment.

  • 38 Jail for Ashley // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:29 AM

    Yes he was and was in his element, he must literally sit and watch games praying that Collo has a howler, he reposted on of his comments about Collocini costing us goals and saying how clever he was, he doesn’t realise that pretty much nearly everyone has come to the same conclusion on our cowardly captain but just don’t have that hate filled obsession he does. He won’t answer me about paying his debt though !

  • 39 Reyantoon // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:30 AM

    Jail – Colo has other duties off the pitch.some one mentioned he is also a spy for Mikey 🙂

    Colo thinks he made a shoulder challenge or charge.But that is like bullying a man, running towards something.He could have covered Fletcher easily by turning his back and make sure Elliot grabbed it.
    Consequently,the ref was inexperienced.He should not have been given that kind of game while there were better matured refs.
    Side note,Mitrovic had a golden chance to made it 1-1 early in second hf,and we still could have won it or snatched a draw with 10 men.But i couldn’t believe how he missed that.
    Overall,the ref decision was still debatable but i still blame coloccini for the loss!!

  • 40 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:30 AM

    That was poor from Mitro. Not sure what he was thinking trying to power it through Pantimillion. He should have been aiming for the far corner, not the near post.

  • 41 nut meg // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:33 AM

    I’ve just had another look at the move that led to the penalty. At the beginning of the move when Sunderland broke, Collo was actually marking Fletcher but as they made progress Collo started back peddling before turning around running facing his own goal but watching the ball. Collo wasn’t watching where Fletcher was until he went passed him.If he had been keeping an eye on Fletcher instead of leaving him unattended we wouldn’t have had a problem.It’s Collo’s poor defending that put himself into a situation that led to the penalty & sending off.

  • 42 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:35 AM

    It wasn’t the most sensible challenge for him to make, but that kind of challenge happens all over the pitch and it is rarely given as a foul. As an experienced defender he should know better in those situations, but I wouldn’t have expected a foul to be given if I had been in Colo’s position and made the same challenge.

  • 43 Jail for Ashley // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:35 AM

    I thought it was booted up field to Defoe not a sublime pass, as for blaming Collocini for all and sundry well I’m more focussed on that challenge that everyone pundit in the land agrees was wreckless and wholly preventable, braindead as one described it.

  • 44 sparky55 // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:40 AM

    My hope is we don’t as a club appeal Colo’s sending off or if we do it’s turned down and we lose him for 4 games because that’s the best thing that could happen for the short term future of this club along with removing 50% of the worst partnership you could ever pick from our squad as s central midfielders pairing.. Tiote and Colback are too alike and both well below the bar in the premiership…it’s our achilles heel…that and the fact our midfield wide men don’t track and cover enough leaving our full backs exposed.

    Mbabu as a right back with Janmaat (who knows how to defend ) as our right half with Sissoko in the CDM role alongside a sitter would in my opinion work better.

    Colo and Colback should at best be on the bench and hopefully never required again.

    I just hope not having them available and some good results without helps SM sees the light and realises what a pair kn@ckers they really are.

  • 45 optimistic prime // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:40 AM


    After yesterday Norwich and a couple other performances we do have the look of a team trying to play football.

    I can say I’ve seen improvement in a couple of the players to, and even though it didn’t work out I liked how Mclaren atleast tried to get in the game by putting the hair cut on for Dummet.

    IMO we’re weakest in Cm and we need a real captain/leader in the side.
    I’ve never been a fan of colo but i won’t hammer him for yesterday but I personally want him out of the team and club ASAP. For footballing and his non footballing activities.

    I like the look of Dummet as a CB and I’d probs go with him, Anita is the best of a limited bunch in CM and I think Mclaren will just go Anita Tiote. I’d try Wijnaldum or Sissoko with Anita and try and get SDJ in the 10 role.

    IMO we’ll pick up points over the next few weeks, I can see us giving someone else a hammering real soon. Wounded animal syndrome, the players will be furious at how we lost, or they should be and they’ll take it out on whoever up next.

  • 46 hibbitt // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:42 AM

    i think i would give lascelles the chance…… if the red is rescinded Mc will put colo back in

  • 47 sparky55 // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:48 AM


    Shame Colo’s non footballing activities are played out on the pitch as well!

  • 48 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:50 AM

    Yeah, we were desperate for a real leader and organiser in the side over the summer, but the club didn’t do it. If they can’t see that we are missing that then I worry. A centre half in that mould should be one of the priorities for me – Matip isn’t the answer.

    As for centre mid, we need a ball winner who can also play more. We were linked with Xhaka a couple of times over the summer, and he would fit the bill better, but would he come if we are struggling near the foot of the table?

    Those 2, plus another centre forward need to be bought in Jan, if that means releasing a few players before their contracts are up and paying them off, then so be it. We are making our own luck after all.

    No argument it was an odd challenge to make, and someone with his experience should know better. I still think others were at fault in the build up to that goal as well, but are being overlooked as Colo is currently enemy number 1 on the blog. He needs to be replaced in January as a priority, with someone who is vocal and can organise a back line brought in (obviously someone who can also defend).

    Who would you put in for him now he is likely to be suspended?

  • 49 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:51 AM

    Well Bournemouth are leaking goals at the moment, and we have them in 2 weeks. That could be the hammering you talk of!

  • 50 Jail for Ashley // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:52 AM

    The biggest worry is that Mclaren has seen the light but has signed into a policy that allows him no say, what did Churners say in his soulless statement back in February “we don’t want a yes man but we don’t want someone who’ll put obstacles in our way” demanding a new CB and Collo shown the door would obviously be putting an obstacle in the way.

  • 51 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:54 AM

    Yeah, demanding a top class centre back whilst Colo is on the bench collecting £60k+ a week might be too much for Ashley to stomach.

  • 52 optimistic prime // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:56 AM

    If the curly mopped flops red card stands who’s gonna be Captain?

  • 53 Mag52 // Oct 26, 2015 at 7:59 AM

    Back to the spelling of Mbemba.
    If anything illustrates the state of incompetence that exists in the club at the moment, it’s the misspelling of Mbemba plastered across his back for the footballing world to see and laugh at.
    You expect it on a blog. You don’t expect it on the shirt of a player representing a serious football club.

  • 54 sparky55 // Oct 26, 2015 at 8:00 AM


    I’m sat here shaking me heed and not really knowing what to say next if this is all down to club politics rather than proving SM has been a bit slow to realise how bad they really are.

    One things for sure…Fat lad will spend some money again in January like he did three years ago because we’ll still be in the bottom three come January (or at best hovering above by the odd point or two) and his plan to finish 17th may be in jeopardy along the 108 million you get for finishing 17th come next year.

    The maths are therefore easy….anything he spends from now on in is free money if you stay up…so he may as well spend big if we’re down in the sh!te or nearby come January …which of course we will be after this horrendous start.

  • 55 davis_toons // Oct 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM

    nut meg@16, optimistic prime@18, catchy@33

    i concur.

    Lilongwe Geordie@22
    The Defensive Mid should have done abit more (but we need a proper DM/CM someone of a kind of Bigger Taller )
    0.18 Colo Won the ball aerial jump, headed the ball forward.
    0.20 Collback lost the ball ball aerial jump.

    With positive football and better quality players coming in, we will be staying.

    (like Arsenal sometimes playing well goals just doesn’t come your way. Their keeper made a good save as well)

    We just need the Owner to keep his promise..

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