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McClaren – This Player Has Been Great For Us

4:17 pm, Friday, October 30th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 160 Comments

One of the players that really impress us towards the last end of lays season was Vurnon Anita and he played really well in that last game – the 2-0 win against West Ham – even though late in the second half his breakaway with a three on one situation was messed up when he delivered the ball too late to Papiss Cisse and the chance was missed and even Mike Ashley held his head in his hands.

But then the great Jonas Gutierrez scored after 85 minutes and we were safe in the Premier league.

And Cheick picked up yellow cards after 5 minutes and 14 minutes respectively in those games, and if he picks up a yellow card tomorrow – who will replace him if McClaren thinks he needs to be replaced in case he picks up a second yellow card?

Having both Cheick Tiote and Vurnon Anita in form against Stoke City tomorrow will go a long way to ensuring we get our second league win of the season.

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Tags: Cheick Tiote · Match Preview · Newcastle News · Poll · Premier League · Press Conference · Vurnon Anita




160 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Tsunki // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:20 PM

    Ashley Out! Of course…

  • 2 Jib // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:25 PM

    Looking at NUFCtv you get the impression that Tioté has been welcomed back into the squad fold.
    I am a lot more sanguine about Cheick operating under the aegis of this coaching set up than the former lot.
    If he has been returned to his former awesome presence it can only be good for the team.
    He and Vurnon could be a really good combination .

  • 3 Tsunki // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:28 PM

    Checks got a lot of winding the clock back to do. He was an unfinished work under Pardew, he’ll have to go some to improve and get himself back to where he started.

  • 4 Jib // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:29 PM

    Chun Ki @1

    You add so much to the blog.

    Do you have more chins than the Shanghai telephone directory ?

  • 5 GeordieTwo // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM

    Anita is too small for the Prem. Nothing can change that. We have even more defensive problems now with Colback and Krul out. Not sure about Tiote. He gets far too many cards, that’s obvious. How good he can be at this point remains an open question.

  • 6 GeordieTwo // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:35 PM

    When was the last time we were out of the bottom 5? It must be November or early December of last year. So poor for so long. Well done Ashley.

  • 7 Tsunki // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:37 PM

    it’s “More Chins than a Chinese phone book” if you’re not going to ruin the jokes’ pace and rhythm jeff you obliterating tool. And btw it’s precisely the irk you suffer that spurs me to repeat that post. Get comfy.

    Btw it’s not ” Chunky” in that way, junior 😉

  • 8 Tsunki // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:39 PM

    G2 not sure about that. I think there may be a tactical wedge if we could employ a few oompa-loompas . Being orange would be a bonus, very distracting. At present we only have Colback and he’s out injured.

  • 9 Tsunki // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:41 PM

    We’ve been out of the bottom five and nobody told me? Oh wait – was that when we were in the top of that Championship thing?

  • 10 Jib // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:41 PM

    Geordie 2

    A quiz for you

    Guess what all these players have in common:-

    Silva , Mata , Messi , Xavi , Anita

    Hint

    Number of inches (vertically)

    Got to love Canadian soccer knowledge

  • 11 Jib // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:42 PM

    Oh
    G2
    You could add Pedro Beardsley to that list.

  • 12 GeordieTwo // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:43 PM

    So you’re comparing Anita to Messi, Silva, Xavi etc. now Jeff? Hilarious. You are a tremendous judge of talent. Well done. NUFC should sign you up to help Graham Carr straight away. 😆

  • 13 cyprus // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:50 PM

    So, fresh off the oven:

    Curbishley: 1-1(he gets our results usually)
    Murphy D: 2-0 (thanks for the vote)

    Of course they have Chelsea winning against the draw specialist. I see another draw there.

  • 14 Jib // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:51 PM

    GeordieTwo // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM
    Anita is too small for the Prem. Nothing can change that.

    That’s what you said honeypie

    It’s there for all to read.

    No amount of wriggling can change that .

  • 15 GeordieTwo // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:57 PM

    Easy with the honeypie Jib. You’re a strange one. Several on here have said that Anita is too lightweight for the Prem. He would be better off going back to the Netherlands as with Luuk de Jong, who was another lightweight. Why don’t you run off and play now?

  • 16 Charlietoon // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:58 PM

    GeordieTwo you just got owned.

  • 17 Jib // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:58 PM

    Sorry

    I forgot to add Harrumph at the end

    😎

  • 18 Tsunki // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:58 PM

    I don’t think being diminutive helps when you’re played in essentially a DM position. Not a noted leaper is our Little Vern.

  • 19 Charlietoon // Oct 30, 2015 at 4:59 PM

    Although I do like the way ‘small’ became ‘talent’ and then turned into ‘lightweight’ as you attempted recovery.

  • 20 Munster Mag // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:03 PM

    Is it just me or did Anita look bigger v Sunderland …..bulked up? Am more worried about Tiote than him but think we will win 2-1 tomorrow or draw 2-2. A draw or loss will start to make SMC’s position not too tenable. I know he wants to be here for the long run but we need points soon. I do agree with him though – if we get the process right, the positive outcomes should happen. How was that for corporate speak ? 🙂

  • 21 GeordieTwo // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:06 PM

    I got owned by those comments Charlie? Hahahahaha! Sure, Anita is in the same league as Messi as far as talent is concerned. Or Xavi, or Pedro. Yes that’s why he plays for us instead of Real Madrid I’m sure.

  • 22 Jib // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:08 PM

    Charlietoon

    Keeping the Canadian theme going here

    G2 was a bit like an ice skater doing a double salchow – he wobbled – recovered – big sigh of relief – then BANG on his ass .

    You’d better go and change your wet pants G2.

    Ha ha ha

  • 23 GeordieTwo // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:09 PM

    Anita makes some decent passes going forward but he’s not exactly a destroyer defensively. I would move him on along with many others. But we’ve been so successful under Ashley why would we do that? He clearly knows what he’s doing along with Jib of course. 😆

  • 24 GeordieTwo // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:12 PM

    Why don’t you give us your starting 11 against Stoke Jib? Of course that monstrous talent Anita will be in the centre of everything, but I’d love to see your incredible insight at work showing us the whole setup. Just step aside McLaren, Jib is going to save us.

  • 25 Bobbybee // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:14 PM

    Tsunki. Let me explain a few things. I have no row with anybody else on this blog. Nobody. My problem is with somebody who says I ‘m not a proper fan because i continue to buy my ST. I, and those like me, are apparently everything that is wrong with Newcastle. This comes from a no mark who has never even seen SJP. let alone go to a game. What I’m about to say should not be interpreted – as it has by those with an agenda – that I am a better fan than anybody else. I’m not and don’t pretend to be. I’m simply a loyal fan of decades. I have been in SJP with less than 8k others. In fact, in one game, possibly Oldham in the mickey mouse cup, less than 7k. I’ve been to some shocking grounds – Wrexham, Shrewsbury, Hereford etc when we were actually genuinely shyte. Done the rat run at Boro, Millwall, Cardiff. Swansea, Chelsea etc when they were dangerous days. When I lived away, I ‘ve never missed a game despite having to travel from Aldershot (army days), Nottingham, Chesterfield, Keighley. This isn’t me bragging, I ‘m stating facts. I am, in other words, a diehard Newcastle fan, long before the term Toon Army was ever uttered. According to Ibiza, I ‘m ecerything that’s wrong with Newcastle because I still buy a ST. I am totally committed to Newcastle United and have proven that by my actions. I have no beef with overseas fans, as I have previously expressed. I find it incredibly offensive that my committment over the years is just brushed aside as nothing of any importance, by some no mark who never has been to a game. He says I should boycott, because he has an agenda against Ashley. The fact that I won’t, makes me a shyte fan. Can you see why that infuriates me? I’m no better a fan than so many around me, but i sure am a better fan than he is. End of. He doesn’t go to games. He won’t buy merchandise because, not knowing how the club is run, he claims it goes into Ashley’s pocket. It doesn’t. Sky money does, but he still watches on some channel that filters into Ashley’s pocket. That is my row with ONE person, about how he has no right to tell me how I spend my money. As long as my health holds, my ST will be bought even if we end up in division two. And that’s it. I won’t be called the problem by a plastic fan – and he is the epitome of a plastic fan. Be sure that I am not calling ANYBODY else a plastic fan, just the one who insults me for my total committment to my club. You ain’t daft, you can see why it insults me beyond frustration. He’s like a scab, screaming on the picket line, but sneaking in the back door to work against the strike. That’s it. Nothing more. Put yourself in my place and imagine how you’d feel.

  • 26 Jib // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:14 PM

    Geordie Two

  • 27 GeordieTwo // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:15 PM

    Off to do some work now. Why don’t you try it some time Jib/Jeff/Jane? Possibly figure skating is your thing? Very dainty.

  • 28 Jib // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:17 PM

    Bye bye Canuck
    Don’t slam the door on your way out.

  • 29 Jib // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:17 PM

    Harrumph

    Ha ha ha ha ha

  • 30 croftus5678 // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:18 PM

    no room in a starting 11 for a link man that is anita imo.

    and i’m very gratefull for guti as he contributed to us staying up but sheesh we was screaming for us to get rid of him for seasons and only when he fell ill did he become somewhat of a fan fave again and lets face it he wouldnt get near the first team this season or shouldnt do anyways.

    and tiote is another weak link imo i’d rather play bigi who offers a calmer head and more going forward.

  • 31 Mister Tuff // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:21 PM

    G2 – please don’t put any work onto Jibs’ shoulders – he’ll be too busy preparing lectures for his students – did you forget he’s a lecturer in Modern European History.

    You cannot make this stuff up – comedy gold.

  • 32 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:22 PM

    Is De Jong getting on the bench at the min, what can he handle? I want to see him start along side Tiote not Anita. Bring Anita on after 70 mins or so if De Jong is tired.

  • 33 Ibizatoon // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:24 PM

    Bobby…No wonder we’re where we are. That is not what I’ve said to you.

    If, and this really is up to you, you would like to clarify the points I am more than happy to do so.

    However, if you want to continue on this misguided path you’re on, then I respect your right to do so and wish you well with your health issues. I would ask though, if you’re not going to re-open this discussion with me, that you stop mentioning me, what it is I think or what it is you think I’ve said as you’ve got it wrong.

  • 34 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:24 PM

    Gan on Bobbybee
    This blog needs all contributions from whatever the side they are on as the debate does not become a debate but a one-sided slag-off.

    Still got my season ticket still go Ashley or no Ashley and will still get my season ticket and go even if they get relegated.

    Any-way on Anita being to small ain’t matter what size you are for the premiership it’s all about your ability, and confidence and at the minute Anita has been one of our best players this season

    keeps it simply – very rarely his passes go astray – does not hide and is always available for a pass

    As for the

  • 35 hibbitt // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:29 PM

    tp ..at the moment not sure de jong would last 70mins think the best way is give him till january with this extra training which hopefully will bring him back to peak fitness and we could start to see the best of him

  • 36 Jib // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:30 PM

    I think The Guardian has it spot on this week.
    I like it when a side virtually picks itself

  • 37 dok - the horrid colonial // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:31 PM

    looks like jib/jeff/jane is on the sauce again… I thought he/she/it would have learned by now that alcohol doesn’t help at all….

    this place is an insane asylum today, and jib/jeff/jane is trying to be the ringmaster..

  • 38 Ibizatoon // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:34 PM

    Dok, Tuff & G2…Have to say, on this occasion, I think Jib has it right.

    Not that G2 is the first person to say Anita is too small for the league. It’s a commonly held opinion. Not one I agree with, either simply based on size, or Anitas ability.

  • 39 hibbitt // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:36 PM

    doc………..the sale of white lightning will be up in pennywell pissed again then the verbal diarrhoea will start

  • 40 Bobbybee // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:39 PM

    These are all reasons to give Macca time to get it right. He inherited the worst squad in the league and miracles just don’t happen. He has to lose the deadwood and replace it with players like Wijnaldum, Mitrovic and Mbemba – still not sure about Thauvin’s committment. This will take time and he’s asked for three windows to sort it out. Sounds reasonable to me. If the money quoted is correct, that’s an average of over £15m per position and sounds promising to me. We can’t buy until we sell, simply because of squad numbers, but we’re slowly looking to thin our squad to make place for better players he had nothing to do with buying. Surely the football, if not the results, have improved massively? The results will, imo follow. Change takes time and I know we’ve waited long enough, but the outward signs are all good. I can’t see us going down once the results pick up and I’ll stand by that come seasons end. I predict a win tomorrow, possibly 3-1. I most certainly don’t see us losing. HTL! ! !

  • 41 croftus5678 // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:40 PM

    @32 toon

    de-jong is up there with the least mobile playes i’ve ever seen so i cant see him being any use as a dm tbh but i suppose its never been tried so who knows.

    i’d go

    ————-elliott—————
    jan—mbem–dumm–hair
    thau–siss—-wij—-rola
    ———-pere–mitr———–

  • 42 Tsunki // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:42 PM

    Bobbybee – I just think you’re being overly sensitive to something implied, I’m not going to trawl through and dissect posts to see who said what, but if you had been out and out called a poor fan for going to games, fair enough. I thought the point Ibiza was making was that at one time he felt, among with others, that the only way to get Ashley to revise his policies toward the club was to do something reactionary, something uncomfortable, like boycott games. Of course youve got your own stand on that. I’d be surprised if Ibiza didn’t respect that tbh.

    Personally I think there are different methods for different moments. I suspended a self imposed boycott to go to the west ham game, I felt the occasion transcended the long term issue. Currently I go when I can afford to. But if we are going down again because of Ashleys brinkmanship business ploys I will have no hesitation in advocating hitting his reason where it hurts. And that doesn’t make me any less of a fan

  • 43 ToonArfa // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:43 PM

    Our best team to play id say would be..

    Janmaat-mbemba-colo-dummett
    ————-anita———-sissoko———
    Perez——–wijnaldum——–thauvin
    ———————-mitrovic——————

  • 44 Jib // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    Looking at those two sides I think we could be in for a bit of a cracker tomorrow afternoon.

    I still stick by what I said the other day , Sparky will come for a point , the midfield tussle should be great .
    Charlie Adam will be the one to watch on their side.

  • 45 Jib // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:49 PM

    ToonArfa
    I think Toe Van is still some way away from starting but as an impact player on the hour could be crucial.

  • 46 hibbitt // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:50 PM

    arfa not sure 10 men is the best answer it never worked last week

  • 47 Jib // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:50 PM

    It will be interesting to have a close look at Shaquiri as so many posters wanted us to get him.

  • 48 Tsunki // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:53 PM

    I think it’s his commentary on our portly keeper.

  • 49 Bobbybee // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    Ibiza. How typical of you to change mid stream. You know what you said and my memory hasn’t gone yet. Denying it doesn’t change shyte matey. You said, people like me, people who buy ST’s are the problem with NUFC. We should boycott – because that’ll really get rid of Ashley. I’m not sure how Jib does it, but he somehow has the ability to find these long forgotten conversations. If I could, I would willingly find it. Although, once someone starts denying what he said, there’s little point because you’ve blown your case wide open. You know what you said, but if you now deny it there’s little point. Maybe now you realise how insulting you were, you prefer to deny it? Fine, let’s leave it at that. So you said no such thing and I’m just a liar. Not sure which is worse, I ‘d stop digging that hole if I were you.

  • 50 ToonArfa // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:56 PM

    Jib
    I think sissoko sitting in there behind him was gonna give him a little bit more freedom and we all know what can happen when hes got that.

    also I like sissoko to sit a little deeper because hes not the best ball player. Id rather him save that raw pace for when we need it and burst through the middle on counter attacks with more options ahead of him

  • 51 bettyswallocks // Oct 30, 2015 at 5:57 PM

    Most of the pundits seem to think we are showing signs of improving under McC. Let’s hope the improvement turns into results soon and let’s hope the spending continues in January now that the assessment period is over .

    Realistically that is all we can hope for as Ashley won’t be budging for a while.
    I have had respect for McClaren since his appointment and will continue to support him until it’s obvious he’s not up to the job. He is our head coach after all .

  • 52 dok - the horrid colonial // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:03 PM

    Ibiza,

    not knocking jeff/jane/jib on the anita comment, I rather like anita… I just groan when hes at everyone, trying to be the big dog on campus…. better if he just acted, well, not like a fool….

  • 53 dok - the horrid colonial // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:04 PM

    I think our brand of footie is improving by the match under MC… much better than in years past… time will tell, but anything is better than the last 3 seasons in my humble opinion…

  • 54 hibbitt // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:04 PM

    if we buy players in january we will see just how much imput Mc has by the type of players that arrive if we get players we need or players he’s given

  • 55 BandB // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:10 PM

    Bobbybee

    If you are sure Ibizatoon claimed season ticket holders were the problem I’m sure you’d want to post that evidence and prove Ibiza to be a liar.
    I do it when I’m called a liar.
    Of course, if you do, someone rather like yourself will say you are a saddo for doing it. So you can’t win.
    Or you could just keep repeating it, not caring whether it’s true or not.
    Produce the evidence or stop saying it.
    Simple.

  • 56 Bobbybee // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:18 PM

    Dok, be careful what you say. I said the same thing hours ago and started WW3. 😉 No, not exactly the same, I said if you can’t see the improvement under Macca, you either aren’t watching or just like to whinge for the sake of it. Cardinal sin apparently. It was insulting – so I’m told – to those who don’t hold that opinion. That said, I’m still waiting for someone to say the football was better under carver and pardew. So who I’ve upset, I ‘m none the wiser. I completely agree with you, the football improves match on match. The results will come in time imo, but I know which side I’d sooner be watching! 😉

  • 57 ToonArfa // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:19 PM

    Not convinced about steve mclaren…. he has failed to see that sissoko is quite blatently a dm not a cam or rm! Not giving rolando a chance on the big stage seeing as he has showed moments of brilliance time and time again and thauvin should have been given another chance to shine before he became useless and depressed about playing for the club hes hardly going to improve that way.

    its little things like that that make me think hes not for me

  • 58 Bobbybee // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:25 PM

    BandB, I don’t see it as my position to prove f#ck all. I know what he said, and I don’t feel any need or desire to prove it. I’m not trawling through months of bollox when I know what he said. Prove it to who? A load of people I don’t even know. Get a life ffs. He knows what he said, I know what he said, that’s more than good enough for me. As you said – saddo. Which I ain’t.

  • 59 Toon-Prodigy // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:25 PM

    Hibbit,

    I agree. Who we sign will show us if McClaren has any say. We all know which positions should be filled.

    About the football we are witnessing, im still on the fence with any of it, it’s far too soon for me to judge. I’v seen decent play and woeful play and collapses galore. For a start we have 50 million worth of talent at our disposal which we never had last season which could account for any good what I have seen. We have still only won two games out of how many?

    McClaren will get the time from me, it’s not him I look at, it’s Ashley and how much he makes available for the 1st team squad. And also the type of players who comes in, positional wise. Holes need to be filled.

    Pretty football just isn’t an agenda for me at present, it’s filling the gaps and getting them playing together quickly.

    Time for work, enjoy folks.

  • 60 Ibizatoon // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:28 PM

    Bobby….I’m not sure if you’re re-opening the discussion or not.

    Stop with the insults. You are bringing up something from May and using it as a reason to slander me on here. More to the point, you’re not quoting me.

    Again, if you would like to, we can go over the points. If not, please stop mentioning me, and what is you think I believe and or said as you’ve got it wrong.

    Dok…I’m not a fan of Jeffs approach to the blog, as you know, he knows and most who read the blog will know. If we’re isolating his chat with G2 this evening, I don’t think he was wrong, or acted poorly. That’s all I’m saying 🙂

  • 61 Lindisfarne // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:29 PM

    Because trying not to change things too much has been a complete loss and a continuation of uninspiring football, IMO a complete change is required. The use of two defensive midfielders and relegated defenders should be put in the past.

    Aarons———-Mitro———Perez
    ————Gini————-Sissoko
    Haidara——Mbemba——Janmaat
    ——–Dummett—–Lascelle
    ———————Elliot

  • 62 BandB // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:29 PM

    Thanks Burb,

    So you are a happy to keep on asserting something not caring if it is or isn’t true. Top bloke.
    I suppose if it is your opinion that’s what he said, that’s even better than the truth 🙂

  • 63 Ibizatoon // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:33 PM

    “Ibizatoon // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:49 AM
    Bobby…”Anybody who can’t see the improvement in the play, compared to the last few seasons either isn’t watching our games or just enjoys whinging for the sake of it.” – A bit insulting, no? What happened to respecting others opinions?
    I think the majority recognise that the style of play has improved from that under Pardew.”

    Aye, WW3 in the making right there.

  • 64 reilly // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:40 PM

    anyone been to peterborough on here,im off to a job for a few weeks,any godd drinking holes there,and a good place to get a kebab or good greek food.
    cheers

  • 65 AncientC // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:42 PM

    Apart from Bojan, there is nobody in the Stoke side that worries me. Shaqiri is extremely overrated and predictable in his play – cuts inside & crosses to the near post every time. Arnautovic on the other flank has a heavy touch and gives the ball away a lot.

    Breaking them down will be difficult. Draw at worst for me… win if Mitro & Perez put their chances away.

  • 66 Bobbybee // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:46 PM

    Band B. Wow! How important you must think yourself. You ‘ve clearly mistaken me for someone who actually gives a f#ck what you think of me. Who the f#ck are you anyway? Blog police. I ‘ll say what I want when I know what was said. I certainly don’t need your permission to do anything! For one, I wouldn’t know how to do it other than go through page by page – which I have better things to do. Why should I prove what I know was said? What would be the point? Humiliate Ibiza? He can do that all on his own, he doesn’t need my help. You sound like you ‘re still in nursery school ffs, which i doubt somehow. I don’t need to prove what was said and if that means you don’t believe me – ha ha ha ha. Do i give a toss? You’re nobody to me, why would I waste my time on a nobody? I’d bring myself back down to earth if I was you.

  • 67 Bobbybee // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:50 PM

    Ibiza, how is that insulting? Has one single person come forward and said they felt insulted by what .i said? No. Just some nob looking for another row.

  • 68 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:50 PM

    GT…when it comes to size matters keep it in the bedroom will you 😉

    Aaron Lennon Tottenham 1,65
    Nathan Dyer Swansea 1,65
    Emanuele Giaccherini Sunderland 1,67
    Alexis Sanchez Arsenal 1,68
    James McArthur Crystal Palace 1,68
    Jesse Lingard Manchester United 1,68
    Joe Allen Liverpool 1,68
    Ross Wallace Burnley 1,68
    Santiago Cazorla Arsenal 1,68
    Sebastian Blanco West Brom 1,68
    Vernin Anita Newcastle 1,68

  • 69 reilly // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:53 PM

    the legend hughie gallacher was only 5-5.
    and footie was alot harder in them days.
    size means nothing in football unless your a goalkeeper. 🙂

  • 70 Tsunki // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:54 PM

    You know I think it might be be to avoid this whole thread of insults until the codeine kicks in
    : |
    Looks like an argument for the sake of exploring indignation

  • 71 Bobbybee // Oct 30, 2015 at 6:58 PM

    Ibiza, the more i read that, the more you look like a nob looking for a row. Nobody up to, and after that point, had said the football under Macca was worse. You clown, you even agree with me ffs. So please, you tell me how that insulted anybody because I am dying to know. Nobody was insulted, but as Sing pointed out, you were just waiting tio find a point to have a go. And if you need to lie about what you said about ST holders being the problem – something you repeated by the way – then you ‘re a bigger nob than i thought you were – which is really big by the way.

  • 72 Bobbybee // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:03 PM

    Jesper, i’m of the age where feet and inches was taught in school. Can ya give us a clue please? 😉

  • 73 Ibizatoon // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:05 PM

    Bobby…To me, it appears that you’ve said that anyone who doesn’t see it the way you do, then they can only fall in to too categories. The ones who do watch the games (I didn’t see a mention to how they watch them, so i presume this was a general use of watch) therefore could feel you were saying, if in their opinion the style of play hasn’t improved, is nothing more than a whinger.

    That I think could be a bit insulting, which is what I said. You didn’t leave much scope.

    I have also said today that no one else has commented that they were insulted by it. I wasn’t looking for a row, hence my initial response back to you where I attempted to calm the tone of the exchange. But no, you weren’t having that.

    How about my other post? Do you care to try and clear this up or not?

  • 74 welshgeordie9 // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:08 PM

    Bobbybee

    Dont let anyone on here get to you, you are entitled to your opinions where they like them or not.

  • 75 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:09 PM

    Bobby…do you need a convert rate? …for the height of the players that is 😉

    To anyone in doubt it’s the metric system

  • 76 WWSBRD // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:10 PM

    So we either have the Anita’s too small debate or the continued spat between Bobby and Ibiza hmmmm which to go with….

    Anita’s too weak and average for PL football his height adds to that its true but he doesn’t do enough in either direction to warrant being a starter for a decent PL quality team for me, we need better in the centre of the park

  • 77 Jib // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:12 PM

    Bobby
    Like yourself I clearly recall Ibiza saying ST holders being part of the problem and beneath contempt.
    I decided to have a scout back to see if I could provide evidence .
    Man I had to give up , me heid was spinning , until you actually trawl back through it you don’t realise what a total gobshite Ibiza is .

    Nice pop at the shit-stirring B and B as well the blog witch , she’ll be fully booked tomorrow night – ha ha ha

  • 78 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:12 PM

    It just seems that among Brits there are a general perception that you need to be of a certain height to cut it in the PL?

  • 79 WWSBRD // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:15 PM

    jesper
    Most of those u posted there are wingers 1 sits on a Liverpool bench and only excelled at Swansea 1 isn’t in the PL and I have no idea who the West Brom fella is but they are hardly a good PL team

  • 80 Ibizatoon // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:17 PM

    Bobby…So, the comment I quoted to you was said because?

    Anyway, I didn’t say you had insulted anyone. I said a bit insulting, no?

    Here’s a question then, does someone need to have been insulted for someone to have said something insulting?

    Sing was incorrect. I’m not sat here waiting. Don’t flatter yourself. However, I can see how it came across as a loaded point. Then again Bobby, I do still struggle with your handling of my views on boycotts, clearly we have an issue here.

    What I have said previously is that the people that continued to go at that time (you’ll note I’ve not discussed boycotting games this season) are PART of the problem. You’ve now turned this in to me saying that they are THE problem.

    I’m anti Ashley and am not hiding from that.

    If I had said or thought it was all the fans doing, wouldn’t my efforts be better spent on “Fans Out”. My gripe is with Ashleys running of NUFC and those who aren’t willing to discuss things rationally.

    Stop viewing me as the enemy. Funnily enough we want the same thing. I think.

  • 81 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:20 PM

    Yo…to explain it in laymen’s term height does not matter mate 😉

    …there are nothing to substantiate that…it’s a urban myth started by Brits. But as far as am concerned if Brits are the only ones who believe that then good luck with that 😉

  • 82 Jib // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:20 PM

    Ibiza try this
    http://www.lonelysouthernerswhowantnorthernpals.com

  • 83 Ibizatoon // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:21 PM

    Blog…I do apologise for this continued discussion. I’m sure you can either skip past or help along the way if you’d like. Hopefully it’ll all be over soon enough.

    Jib…Thanks, I did say PART. Beneath contempt is a bit cheeky though.

  • 84 Bobbybee // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:22 PM

    Ibiza, you simply look for any excuse to have a dig, which all stems from our original discussion about you saying I was part of the problem by buying a ST. What on earth is all that waffle about? It was a throw away comment referring to the difference in quality. You appear to be making people up who could, possibly, on another planet, find insult in what I said. Why? What’s it got to do with you? Anything you say on a blog might upset somebody – you do it regularly – but I don’t jump in like some blog police demanding you watch your mouth. If somebody was insulted by that comment, they can speak for themselves, yet nobody did. Everything on a blog is a matter of opinion and in my opinion, anybody who can’t see the improvement isn’t watching, or just whinging for the sake of it. It’s much better ffs and i think 99% would agree with that. Am I not allowed to say that in ibiza’s rule of the blog? I will say what i want whether you like it or not, you pathetic no mark. Who do you think you are, deciding what might or not insult people? Let others decide if i insult them, not you. You were 100% wrong – again – because nobody was insulted. I’m sure if I insult anybody on here, they’re big enough to pull me up on it. Not your imaginary friends either.

  • 85 Ibizatoon // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:22 PM

    Jib…Thanks again.

  • 86 Our Toon // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:25 PM

    On the Anita debate I don’t think size has anything to do with it. Makalele at Chelsea and real madrid was a class act and he was tiny. He was a player though who knew his limitations. Never crossed the halfway line and just sat and protected the back 4. Anita could learn from that, however Anita is no Makalele he’s a poor player who offers nothing defensively or attacking wise!!

  • 87 WWSBRD // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:27 PM

    jesper
    But surely if u want to make the point height doesn’t matter then why not point out the short players who have been successful in the PL rather than a bunch of average/below average players with Sanchez and Santi littered in there?

  • 88 Ibizatoon // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:30 PM

    Bobby…Is that us clarifying that I wasn’t lying? I did say part of the problem after all?

    Again, if we are to continue, you need to calm down. There really is no need for this.

    I don’t have a blog rule book. You made a comment, I saw fit to make a comment about it. I didn’t say what you could or couldn’t say in it. I also went on to agree with your main point.

    I’ve noticed you will say what you want, to who you want, when you want. It still baffles me that a man with that attitude can then get that upset by my opinions on the boycott….just because I’ve not been to SJP.

    Now, what’s this about imaginary friends?

  • 89 BandB // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:30 PM

    I was pleased to see Lascelles stepping out of the 18-yard box and heading away those Sunderland long balls before they could be turned into attacking possession. Anita and Colback aren’t much of an air force in those areas.
    It was a useful part of Williamson’s game.

  • 90 BandB // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:31 PM

    Ibiza man….

  • 91 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:31 PM

    Yo…because I don’t think they are unsuccessful players!

  • 92 dok - the horrid colonial // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:31 PM

    dear blog,

    relax…

    that is all…

  • 93 Ibizatoon // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:32 PM

    Yo…I think it’s merely to show there is no connection between height and ability to be able to play in the PL.

    A bunch of players, all the same height, some crap, some okay, some brilliant – all play in the PL.

  • 94 AncientC // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:33 PM

    For a player to get away with lacking height, they have to at least have a unique ability that is difficult to replace.

    There is nothing about Anita’s game that could not be replaced by many players blessed with more height.

  • 95 Ibizatoon // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:34 PM

    BandB…Good evening.

  • 96 WWSBRD // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:35 PM

    jesper
    Mate barring the 2 Arsenal lads am not sure how u could label the rest successful Lingard may end up successful but as yet has done nothing

  • 97 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:44 PM

    Yo…what your criteria for success are was really beside the point!

    …it’s subjective anyway!

    I am not looking to convince you I just wanted to set the record straight mate

  • 98 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:48 PM

    AncientC…and with height you just need to plain?

    Is there a minimum height where that’s implied and even a maximum? Is it like a parable?

    Yo/AncientC…at what height do a player top in terms of the PL

  • 99 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:48 PM

    *need to be

  • 100 Bobbybee // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:48 PM

    Loyal fans, regardless, have never, ever, been part or the whole problem with Newcastle. You did start with saying part, but in a later reply you said You stand by your opinion that we’re the problem. Either way, you said it – part, whole or entirely. You, demanding we give up our ST we’ve had since before you were born, when you give up zilch. We should quit because the almighty ibiza says so? Let me explain something you will never quite get. Going year in year out is a badge of pride in Newcastle. It’s something I am fiercely proud of and i know thousands like me. Tens of thousands. We don’t care about the politics. One shyte owner is no better than the rest. Can you guarantee me that the next will be better? The more money that floods into the game, the more charlatans it will attract. Most so called boycotters didn’t go anyway, once we stopped chasing CL places. Keegan and Sir Bobby weren’t the norm, they were the exception. All the problem,or part of it is still insulting coming from someone who doesn’t contribute ANYTHING to our great club. Despite my numerous health problems, I’ll get there somehow on saturday, because my pride in Newcastle forces me. You would never understand that, so don’t ever pretend you know what ‘s best for our club, because you don’t even understand us. Now I’m off to watch football. You go build sandcastles. So, BandB, he did say it, but i won’t hold it against you as you weren’t to know. Laters.

  • 101 toonking // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:48 PM

    bobbybee and ibitza why do you need to get so insulting to each other over the state of newcastle in and after pardew’s era. Both sides of the arguement are right really.

    Bobby bee

    Mac is playing more attractive football but this isn’t getting us the results. He’s like the newer generation of local toon fans, the ones who are built up in a footballing world where it’s about getting the best players and being the best, these days football clubs are consistantly selling and buying players. Players themselves demand bigger wages every year and demand champions league football and in a world where media has gone global and money is so big and important, results themselves are a important because if they don’t come then a manager is getting sacked sacked, players look for bigger moves and others feel less attracted and that’s modern day football.

    ibiza
    As a long term follower and local fan bobby bee has the greater spirits of what a toon fan is considered to most, it was attacking football they cared about the most not winning. Kevin keegan himself tossed away the chance being league champions himself but is still considered a great legend both as player and manager because he gave us that excellent attacking football. So whilst you might see results as key to football it’s not much use to his type because it’s probably too late for that trophy now and therefore entertaining football is all that matters.

  • 102 WWSBRD // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:53 PM

    jesper
    At no point am I saying u have to be tall to be a good player. Am saying Anita is a poor player

  • 103 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:56 PM

    Yo…then you are starting a new discussion

  • 104 AncientC // Oct 30, 2015 at 7:57 PM

    Jesper, average players are ten a penny. If you are going to have an average player, you may as well have the added dimension of height.

    I have no argument against players that are short but have an exceptional talent.

  • 105 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:01 PM

    AncientC…so you like height?

    …and I like a good center of gravity!…whether we are talking about average or exceptional players.

  • 106 AncientC // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:06 PM

    Jesper, if you have two players of equal quality but different height, obviously the taller player has the edge.

    When you take a case like Anita, how difficult would it be to find a player his equal or of higher quality, with the added bonus of height into the mix? (Not very difficult in my opinion)

  • 107 AncientC // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:10 PM

    A low center of gravity is only useful is you know how to use it. Anita isn’t that type of player. There is no doubting the talent of players that can use their low center of gravity though – those are the players that are the exception to the rule in regards to height.

  • 108 AncientC // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:16 PM

    http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/10/nufc-fans-forum-minutes-released-read-questions-answers-highlights-here/

    It looks like there isn’t much new news on anything – including the new training facility.

  • 109 Tsunki // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:16 PM

    Blah blah blah plus jeff and welshie stirring the pot every so often, cooking up a storm. Out of nowt. Good work.

  • 110 hibbitt // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:22 PM

    arfa………..aarons only started training this week …..how has Mc not given him a chance

  • 111 firebug666 // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:24 PM

    Thought I might be a the “Sad Person” so I trawled back through and found these:-

    ——————————————————————

    Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2015 at 9:21 AM

    This Saturday, fans are once again uniting to say enough is enough to Mike Ashley and his running of NUFC.

    We have set out below the various options available to fans to make their voice heard.

    #BoycottSwansea
    Fans are once again being asked to send a message to Ashley and the worldwide media that we wont take anymore. A call has been made to not attend our next home game against Swansea (KO at 3pm). There will be demonstrations before and after the game. Remember, an empty seat is vital, standing with other boycotters outside doubles the message.

    #StandUpToAshley
    Each and every Toon fan understands just how difficult it is for fans to stay away. It is ingrained in to so many of us and no matter the logic, we can’t bring ourselves to let the club down. We understand, although we may not agree.
    There is good news though, you too have a chance to show Ashley what you think and that you’ve had enough as well – even if you still turn up to support the team.
    Every attending fan is being asked to “Stand Up To Ashley” during the 34th minute of the match. It doesn’t cost anything, it takes minimal effort, but it will show you’re willing to stand up to him and let him know what you think.

    #AshleyEmbargo
    Not a match day customer anyway? No point buying a ticket, just to give it up 🙂 After much discussion and examples set by Rangers fans, attention is going to the recipient of a one way association with Sports Direct. Some have said our woes have nothing to do with SD, but that is not true, as confirmed by Ashley himself at their last AMG meeting. “Other than to say than it’s been beneficial to Sports Direct and therefore its shareholders, I don’t think it’s appropriate to comment.”

    Sports Direct do not pay for their multiple adverts displayed at Newcastle’s St James’ Park stadium, and asked how much Newcastle were losing out on, Ashley said: “I think I summed it all up in my previous statement. Those relationships are very beneficial to Sports Direct and its shareholders. And I think that nothing else needs to be said.”

    Let us be clear, this is a protest, not an attack on innocent workers at SD. The aim is to apply pressure on Ashley from all angles.
    From 12.30pm Saturday 25th April 2015, fans are being asked to turn up at the following SD stores to protest.

    “PictureYourProtest” Is Back again, this time with a twist…or two.

    The theme is #StandUpToAshley so you can stand with your fans inside the stadium or to show you’re support to the boycotters / protesters. Show us your personal protest and how you’re standing up to Ashley!

    We’re now on Twitter, so make sure to follow us for the latest info and ideas – also to keep track of all these campaigns. We’ll never agree on everything, but we can stand together and say no more to what we all agree – something is wrong at our club.

    @HWTFNUFC
    #HWTFNUFC

    Stay tuned for updates on last weeks “HWTF” as well as information about the SD documentary airing on Channel 4 this Monday at 8pm.

    Clearly in this post Ibiza is asking the fans that DO NOT wish to boycott the games to protest in the 34th minute.

    ——————————————————————-

    Ibizatoon // Apr 25, 2015 at 9:38 AM

    Ibizabot Auto-Reponse

    Today is Saturday 25th April 2015.

    Plans have been made and those who want to, will participate in the way they think is best.

    Everyone should always show respect to others as well as themselves.

    Discussions will no doubt continue beyond today, but this morning, again, is not the time.

    Again he is saying those who want to, protest in the way they want.

    ——————————————————————-

    I don’t see any mention in these posts where he is telling fans they are part of the problem for going to SJP.

    I also don’t recall reading any such thing at the time, There was some debate as to who the “Real Fans” where, and some of us were branded “armchair fans” but if and I mean if memory serves this was started by Blackley & Brownlie.

  • 112 BandB // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:29 PM

    Firebug,

    I’m not sure anybody is going to thank you for that.
    So please accept the thanks of a nobody instead.

  • 113 geordieboy83 // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:30 PM

    Why do people take things so to heart on here. I got accused of being the big problem with Newcastle earlier as I was sad to see willo leave, brush it off who cares? Reading through this place every day I find myself agreeing with posters then 2 hours later completely disagreeing with that same person.

    Every one of us have our own way of thinking we know what is best for the club, what the problem is, what tactics to use, players blah blah. The reality is none of us know for certain and just stick by our opinions. Not worth stressing about or calling somebody a wum, a knob, a tw-t or whatever else.

  • 114 firebug666 // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:31 PM

    BandB

    Ah well, if nobody is all I get it will have to do.

    Thank you.

    I could have found more but it gets a little boring reliving the past.

  • 115 firebug666 // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM

    geordieboy83

    Well said, I will always take a debate over insults every day of the week, but I will throw in a few insult when needed.

  • 116 geordieboy83 // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:37 PM

    Firebug

    Best way mate, a good debate is good to engage in, a slagging match for 10 hours not so much.

  • 117 firebug666 // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:41 PM

    geordieboy83

    I’m not so sad about Willo leaving, other than his height he didn’t really off much.

    He’s gone for a month, I hope that the move becomes permanent for him in January, it will be a good move for him and us.

    The days of just lumping the ball forward are hopefully coming to an end, and a decent ball playing defender with height and heading ability should be brought in to replace him.

  • 118 Roosta // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:44 PM

    Pedro said De Jong was better than him??? Really??? Why can’t the fella settle, surely he can’t be that poor, Tiote will start won’t he, hes like a bloody deep sea diver,a real liability now.Krul Janmatt
    Mbabu Colo Mbemba Sissoko Wijnaldum De Jong Aarons Perez Mitrovic.

    Not a hope eh, Shame.

    Get De Jong on with some quality playing time.

  • 119 firebug666 // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:44 PM

    Newcastle have accepted a Football Association charge of failing to control their players during last weekend’s derby defeat at Sunderland.

    However, the Magpies have asked for their case to be re-assessed after submitting mitigation over the incident, which surrounded Newcastle captain Fabricio Coloccini’s dismissal by referee Robert Madley in first half stoppage-time after he had a penalty awarded against him for a shoulder barge on Steven Fletcher.

    “Newcastle United have admitted a charge of failing to control their players in last weekend’s Tyne-Wear derby defeat at Sunderland,” a club statement read.

    “The charge relates to the players’ reaction to the match official’s decision, which saw Sunderland awarded a penalty and captain Fabricio Coloccini issued with a red card, which has since been rescinded.

    “The club has admitted the charge, but has submitted an application for it to be re-assessed due to mitigating circumstances.”

    Coloccini was sent off for a challenge which came seconds after Madley had opted not to award his team a penalty against Lee Cattermole at the other end as the first half of the game at the Stadium of Light drew to a close.

    The defender and several of his team-mates surrounded Madley to argue his case, but Coloccini’s misery was compounded when the referee produced a red card.

    Adam Johnson converted the resulting spot-kick and a game the Magpies had dominated turned on its head, with the Black Cats eventually running out 3-0 winners.

    Coloccini appealed against the dismissal and was successful.

  • 120 firebug666 // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:47 PM

    Newcastle owner Mike Ashley (R) stands alongside Managing Director Lee Charnley (L)
    Newcastle United have released the minutes from their latest Fans Forum.

    United’s football board met supporter representatives last week with Bob Moncur, managing director Lee Charnley and PR and Supporter Liaison Manager Lee Marshall all in attendance.

    During the meeting Newcastle discussed plans for a new training ground, how they will improve in the FA Cup this season and how they will stick to their blueprint when it comes to buying new players.

    Here are the key points from the latest meeting between fans at St James’ Park.

    Cup competitions
    David Maudlin: After the debacle in the League Cup, can the club assure fans that:

    a) We will continue to play a strong team in the remaining cup competition

    b) The players are aware that their efforts and performance must be ‘much improved’ for the FA Cup.

    Bryn Tennant: I’d also like to ask about the cup games. What is seen as a priority at this point in the season?

    Board’s answer: The club reaffirmed that its aim is to win a cup competition and that players and all members of staff had always understood the importance of derbies.

    Transfer policy
    Brian Parkin: Fans and pundits seem united in their belief that we don’t put enough emphasis on signing players with Premier League experience. Is this something you’re looking to address to help the team in terms of leadership and also to help other new signings settle into the league?”

    Craig English: I also feel that the club’s stated transfer policy of signing younger players with a decent sell-on value should be questioned, particularly given our current league position and – in my opinion – our need for strong, experienced, vocal leaders on the pitch.

    We’re in danger of becoming a stepping-stone for players.

    Will the club confirm its investment will continue?

    Board’s answer: While accepting the start to the league season had been disappointing, the club underlined its commitment to the transfer policy that had been outlined to supporters in the email on 2nd September. This focuses on buying players whose careers are “on the way up”, rather than buying players who are nearing the end of their careers.

    The club believes that this is in its best interests and will help it to achieve its goals in the medium to long term.

    The club stated that its aim was to secure players who could improve individually and collectively, rather than focussing on potential sell-on value.

    The club turned down substantial offers in the summer 2015 window because it has no need or desire to sell its best players.

    Brian Parkin: Could the club complement the new players with players who have Premier League experience?

    The club’s policy on recruitment remains unchanged however, as previously stated, it may consider exceptions in specific circumstances.

    New training ground (scheduled to start in May 2015)
    David Maudlin: Are there any updates on the club’s new training facility?

    The club took the original decision to delay construction for two reasons.

    Firstly, its league position at a time when it was required to sign contracts for work to start in May 2015 and, thereafter, to minimise disruption in the first season of a new head coach.

    The plans have since been revisited to see if any enhancements can be made and that is on going.

    The club is committed to upgrading its training facilities at the most appropriate time.

  • 121 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:49 PM

    AncientC…that’s not obvious at all mate!

    …those two players will be alike anyway and smallest of the two might even have the better center of gravity. He might even be less clumsy or even quicker in the way he moves about. Hr might be better at safeguarding the ball because of lower center of gravity!

    Height is of no importance in term of who’s the better player.

  • 122 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:52 PM

    *will not be alike

  • 123 Average_Contents // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:57 PM

    Stadium expansion

    Question – “Currently, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs and West Ham are due to overtake us when it comes to stadium capacity. Manchester United, Manchester City and Arsenal are ahead of us. Why were plans proposed to extend the Gallowgate End scrapped in the past and will any planned development behind Gallowgate hinder the potential to expand the stadium in future?

    Club reply – The club referred to similar questions in previous Fans Forum meetings in May 2014 and October 2014 during which the history of the land and its sale were discussed. The club’s view has not changed.

    Similar questions which at those times stated were not answered so they’ve been asked AGAIN.

    Still no answer. What a joke. Refer to this, refer to that. The fcuking referrals lead to unanswered questions in the first instance ffs!

    Guff. Of the highest order.

    No fcuking wonder it’s taken NINE days to release. It’s as shameful as ever.

  • 124 geordieboy83 // Oct 30, 2015 at 8:57 PM

    Firebug

    Reason I’m sad is purely down to the fact there are numerous players in our squad currently who have more ability, but nowhere near the commitment and enthusiasm a limited Williamson offered.

    I’d have much rather seen them leave before the big lad, not for ability but application and attitude. I wouldn’t have minded seeing willo with chancel tbh as I remember him and mbiwa being a pretty damn good pairing until captain curly came back in

  • 125 firebug666 // Oct 30, 2015 at 9:19 PM

    geordieboy83

    It was Willo Wolves wanted, I agree that others should go too.

    I do remember the clean sheet run with Willo and Mbiwa, and was gutted that Coloccin walked back into the team and spoilt it, but that does not detract me from my thinking that Willo is just not good enough for a team that is trying to become a better prospect in this league.

    He is defiantly not the only one who should be out the door, but he should be on the same list.

    Sorry for the late reply, was on NUFC reading the FF minutes.

  • 126 firebug666 // Oct 30, 2015 at 9:21 PM

    AC

    Most of their answers are referrals to previous minutes or statements, if we are ever going to get any questions answered it won’t happen through the FF meetings that’s for sure.

  • 127 Average_Contents // Oct 30, 2015 at 9:29 PM

    FB

    It’s an absolute joke mate, but what makes it even worse is these questions are screened and approved by the club prior to the fans forum taking place.

    You may ask this, this and yes that’s fine but that one, oh no no, no chance. Your banned.

    Lip service because they’ve been forced to do it.

    Load of bollix.

  • 128 Average_Contents // Oct 30, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    I see our friend notsoibizatoon has been causing trouble again. Tut Tut.

    HOW DARE YOU.

    Hope your well anyway FB mate, I’ve gotta get my head down (work tomorrow)

  • 129 Average_Contents // Oct 30, 2015 at 9:33 PM

    Another time maybe, plastic 🙂

  • 130 firebug666 // Oct 30, 2015 at 9:36 PM

    AC

    It need some fans with the backbone to stand up and ask the difficult questions, but like you say if they rock the boat they get banned.

    Thing is the boat is already taking on water, and if we don’t start bailing it out we will go down.

    The FF meeting serve no purpose at our club, might just as well wait for an e-mail.

  • 131 firebug666 // Oct 30, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    AC

    Yeah not bad, hope you and yours are well too mate,

    Have a good kip.

  • 132 Jail for Ashley // Oct 30, 2015 at 9:39 PM

    I thought nobody on here could get on my tits more than TDSarf, welshgeordie9 doesn’t count because of the complete nonentity that he is, but booby bee has taken that mantle!

  • 133 BandB // Oct 30, 2015 at 9:40 PM

    I don’t know why they are even bothering to ask about expanding the Gallowgate, as a lot of it is already in the public domain from other outlets.
    The city council is keen to sell the land behind the Gallowgate Stand for £800,000.
    At the moment it is leased by Ashley through Mash Holdings, of which the club makes up just a part. Mr Ashley is the sole named director of that organisation.
    The plans for the area included student accommodation, shops and apartments.

  • 134 firebug666 // Oct 30, 2015 at 9:41 PM

    Jail

    Aye it all seemed to blow up earlier. Historic arguments need kicking into touch and deal with the present day.

  • 135 angelswithdirtyfaces // Oct 30, 2015 at 9:42 PM

    Question – “Currently, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs and West Ham are due to overtake us when it comes to stadium capacity. Manchester United, Manchester City and Arsenal are ahead of us. Why were plans proposed to extend the Gallowgate End scrapped in the past and will any planned development behind Gallowgate hinder the potential to expand the stadium in future?

    Answer – Because our team is performing so badly on the pitch that we can’t guarantee filling any more seats, especially if we get relegated regularly and anyway, we make a lot more money from TV rights, so why bother ?

  • 136 firebug666 // Oct 30, 2015 at 9:45 PM

    BandB

    Basically it was taken from the club and placed with Mash Holdings, there will be zero benefit for the club from any future sales, and zero expansion because we no longer own the lease to the land.

    The club was basically stripped bare of any saleable assets, and received nothing in return.

  • 137 firebug666 // Oct 30, 2015 at 9:47 PM

    angelswithdirtyfaces

    Good answer!

  • 138 BandB // Oct 30, 2015 at 9:50 PM

    Firebug,

    I didn’t want to labour that point about the transfer.

    I always think that if you want to know where we are ultimately headed, you can’t go far wrong watching the Oystens at Blackpool.

  • 139 firebug666 // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:00 PM

    BandB

    Yeah, I do tend to labour the points a little, think it’s more trying to explain it to myself, and understand the incredulity of what the greedy man has done.

    He strikes me as the sort of fella that would snatch a lollypop from a baby and give them back the stick.

  • 140 welshgeordie9 // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:04 PM

    Jail for Ashley
    October 30, 2015
    I thought nobody on here could get on my tits more than TDSarf, welshgeordie9 doesn’t count because of the complete nonentity that he is, but booby bee has taken that mantle!

    Ha ha ha

    What a plonker you really are Jail.

  • 141 Jail for Ashley // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:05 PM

    BandB,
    I would gladly take relegation to get rid of Ashley if it meant he would sell up, the trouble is though the other three notoriously bad owners that Mashers is on par with, Oyston, Tan and Venky(s) haven’t done one yet, I would love to know what they get out of owning a football club.

  • 142 welshgeordie9 // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:07 PM

    After the bad news I’ve had tonight, i don’t care what you think.

  • 143 angelswithdirtyfaces // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:07 PM

    Did Owen ever serve his time BandB ?
    If so, there’s hope for us yet.

  • 144 Jail for Ashley // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:14 PM

    Did you find out you’ve got foot and mouth disease welsh ?

  • 145 jimmysmith // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:15 PM

    One thing that the club hasn’t seemed to factor in when they budget for players is the weight of expectation and pressure they’ll have to labour under. They’ve talked about it, but failed to achieve it.

    You can’t skimp at all on quality, or mental toughness and resilience and hope the squad will cope, apparently. That last window seemed about right, but you suspect the bar can’t be any lower, if you want a squad that can deal with all the angst and drama that dogs the club.

    We need a group of players that is good enough and confident enough to simply go out, play well, and win it’s fair share of the points, and I think that requires better players than other clubs, who indulge in less hand wringing and so seem to be able to get a better performance out of those they employ to pull on the shirt.

  • 146 welshgeordie9 // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:18 PM

    Jail

    I found out my dad has got stomach cancer.

  • 147 BandB // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:21 PM

    Well, that was never going to end well, was it?

    Bad news Welshgeordie9. My hopes are with him.

  • 148 firebug666 // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:23 PM

    Welshie

    My thoughts and well wishes to your dad.

  • 149 Tsunki // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:26 PM

    Well this was a red letter day for Bobbybee to reaffirm his obnoxious need which he did at a canter, reimagining and regurgitating his old gripes. Pointless engaging with that, and above all intensely and stultifyingly boring. I actually did understand his stance on loyalty, once, but he labours his point so much that it becomes impossible for him not to betray his snobbish attitude. Anyway, I’m all for creative ridicule where deserved, but when someone’s point is peppered with swearing and provocation it nullifies their credibility somewhat. Very little football got talked about today, just a braggart and his satellites telling everyone what their rights are, Dammit!

  • 150 welshgeordie9 // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:26 PM

    Thanks BandB and firebug666.

  • 151 Our Toon // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:28 PM

    Head up Welshy buddy. My mum has been battling cancer for 5 years. The key is to remain positive. No matter what differences we all have on here one thing we all agree on is no ill will toward each other no matter what bickering goes on!!

    My prayers are with you and your family!!

  • 152 Tsunki // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:28 PM

    Welsh, that is awful news I’m sorry to hear that.

  • 153 jimmysmith // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:29 PM

    Really. The land is now owned by Mash. That surely means using the land for expansion, or as leverage in a sale, remains on the table.

  • 154 welshgeordie9 // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:30 PM

    I’ve had a lot to take in tonight and if i got it right, he’s got to have physio first, and then it’s either an 8 hr operation or if he doesn’t want that then it chemo.

  • 155 welshgeordie9 // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:33 PM

    Thanks guys, also he’s got to spend two weeks in hospital then I think it’s 3 to 5 months recovering, i think it all starts at the end of November.

  • 156 geordieboy83 // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:52 PM

    Sorry to hear the news welshy. Stay positive and strong for your dad mate, yourself and family. Thoughts and wishes to all concerned.

  • 157 welshgeordie9 // Oct 30, 2015 at 10:58 PM

    geordieboy83

    Cheers mate, thanks for that.

  • 158 Bobbybee // Oct 30, 2015 at 11:01 PM

    Fail, if ever I thought you liked me, i would be extremely upset. You offer nothing but abuse to this blog, therefore even being associated with you would upset me greatly. You’re like a child that can’t get his own way and i assure you any feeling is mutual.
    Firebug, you won’t find ibiza’s comments there, it was during a personal conversation, to which he has since admitted saying loyal fans are part of the problem. Somehow he feels that changes everything, but it doesn’t. Another blogger even recalls him saying ST holder are beneath
    contempt, which hardly surprises me. You anti Ashley clowns need to be careful what you wish for, look at the number of teams that have slipped into oblivion by demanding change. We are a well run club and you lot the laughing stock of football. Huge mistakes have been made in the past but he is actually trying to put those right. With actions, not words. Most of you weren’t there when things were really bad, either because you weren’t born or had long deserted the club by then. 7,8,9k crowds. If we ever do go down, I can pick out the faces who’ll still be there, because they were there last time it got really bad. You want instant success and would willingly taken the oil mens money, despite whining over wonga, who charge reasonable rates providing you pay them back as agreed and not try to rip them off, yet Saudi etc is run by genuinely vile and evil people, who have a minority of mega rich people and millions of starving people. They still stone women and behead men for trivial offences. But hey, so what, as long as they invest in Newcastle eh? What a bunch of hypocrites. Don’t recall Ashley stoning anybody, but he’s Satan’s spawn in the eyes of some. Ashley is far from being an angel, but compared to those oil rich arabs he might as well be. Maybe if you did some research on potential owners, you might… naw, probably
    not. I ‘ll make a little wager, no money, just for fun. Ashley will be there until Ashley decides to sell up, and not a moment sooner. You can boycott to your hearts content – fans that don’t go to games anyway, boycotting is the biggest joke in town like – but with his sky money, he can carry on regardless. Sky money you lot put in his pocket by the way. Don’t like it, don’t go. Where did 52k suddenly appear from anyway? I’ve often wondered that. Oh yes, Keegan threatened success and you all appeared out of the woodwork. Now you slowly slip back. Not everyone of course, but most certainly the biggest whingers on here. Here today, gone tomorrow. Support a winning team, desert a losing one. Give me 30k loyal fans ahead of another 22k cry babies any day of the week. That’s where the song ‘the loyalest supporters the world has ever seen’ came from. Years ago. When we were, win or lose. It’s not all about winning, it’s about pride in your club and city and area. Supporting the team regardless of our position. So many of you just don’t get it. Fortunately, over 45k still do. Alternatively, if you hate it that much, you could form your own team – United of Newcastle and see what a mess you make of that. At least those mancs put their money where their mouth is. Or United of Ibiza lol. He still wouldn’t turn up then! V

  • 159 jimmysmith // Oct 30, 2015 at 11:25 PM

    If the fans aren’t prepared to push back and demand better, then they’ll just get what they are given. A following that turns up no matter what, to back the side, is surely what any owner who might have an unscrupulous bent, would consider hitting the jack pot. Ashley needs to be held to account, first and foremost by those who go to the matches, but also those who write about the club in the press, and those who passionately discuss the club in pubs, at home, at work, and on blogs like this.

  • 160 DAVEMAC // Oct 31, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    Hi Welshie I dont come on here much but just felt I had to give you my support and best wishes for your Dad. I lost my Dad to the big c at 55 years of age awful hopefully your Dad will be okay. Lost my wife with brain tumor seven years ago and I must admit football went right out of the window when she was diagnosed with it, been NU fan all my life, I am now 70, but it meant absolutely nothing when we got the bad news. Your prioritys change dramatically in those circumstances. Best of luck to both of you and keep telling your Dad to fight the bxxxxxxd thing




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