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McClaren – It´s A Bad Situation We Are In

11:27 pm, Sunday, November 1st, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 43 Comments

We thought that Steve McClaren was ready to give 18 year-old Freddie Woodman his debut next Saturday at Bournemouth, but after seeing additional comments from the head coach after the 0-0 draw against Stoke City at home yesterday – maybe not.

Indeed, Rob Elliot was a fitness doubt for yesterday´s game but kept a clean sheet – but it seems McClaren expected him to come off at some stage yesterday with a thigh injury he´s been carrying for some time, along with a reported  shoulder problem.

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Freddie Woodman – will he make his debut on Saturday?

This is some more of what Steve said after the game yesterday about a possible emergency loan for a goalkeeper – which is now being reported:

“We will have to investigate it, because if we fear the worst with Rob and we have only got one keeper.” “We will look at that. It’s a bad situation to be in.”

“Freddie is 18-years-old, and this is a big league.”  “It’s the unknown. He has certainly got ability and talent, and he’s a keeper for the future. We very nearly had to play him.”

“We expected Rob to come off at one stage – he was wincing at one point – and I feared the worst. We’ll have to assess it.”

“You need a top keeper, which is what I said a few weeks ago after Tim Krul got injured and Jack Butland’s performance for Stoke reiterates what I said about goalkeepers.”

“They win you points, and without his performance we would have come away with three points today.”

“Goalkeepers are very important for you, and Robbie made a very good save at the end so it is an important position.”

Most reports think we will go after former Barcelona goalkeeper Victor Valdes, who is frozen out at Manchester United, but we wonder if they will.

Anyway, we shouldn´t have to wait too long and Newcastle will have to make their move soon – like tomorrow – if we are to bring in a goalkeeper.

That´s because if we are to sign a goalkeeper on loan for the game at Bournemouth, he will need to get a full week´s training in – we play in the early game on Saturday at Bournemouth.

Bournemouth were beaten 2-0 today at Southampton and are one point above Newcastle and they have lost their last four games including successive 5-1 defeats at Manchester City and at home to Tottenham.

Do you think we should sign a goalkeeper on an emergency loan?

Comments welcome.

Tags: Coaching · Freddie Woodman · Other News · Premier League · Rob Elliot

43 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Toon Tang // Nov 1, 2015 at 11:29 PM

    I know this Woodman lad still does his paper round and wears spiderman briefs and that, but is he any good? Never seen nowt of him tbh

  • 2 Belfast // Nov 1, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    Well folks I’m still alive and well and I’m not locked in Ian Toons cellar. (I’d heard the rumours)

    Ta ra 😉

  • 3 Toon Tang // Nov 1, 2015 at 11:44 PM

    The grapevine carries many a whisper eh. It is good of Ian to trust you on little errands out of the cellar unaided though eh ahaaa

  • 4 JAMSHA // Nov 1, 2015 at 11:47 PM

    just play woody, been good wen elliot was injurd, or just get valdes

  • 5 stestickle // Nov 1, 2015 at 11:57 PM

    well krul couldnt of been much older when he started first team games

  • 6 jimmysmith // Nov 2, 2015 at 12:04 AM

    Yes, but we are in a bad place, and this league will quickly exploit any weakness. This self same
    situation played a significant part in our previous and almost peerlessly destructive season. We are still recovering. Bring in Harps, or Valdes, and let Freddie continue to benefit from being in the match day squad, but not in the line of fire.

  • 7 Sliema // Nov 2, 2015 at 12:15 AM

    Is Karl Darlow not available?

  • 8 optimistic prime // Nov 2, 2015 at 12:44 AM

    Rush keeper?
    1st man back?

  • 9 lesh // Nov 2, 2015 at 12:44 AM

    When Ed says that the Club needs to mover very quickly to get a loan keeper in, he’s stating the obvious.

    However obvious to most, it’ll take a mallet to get the urgency through to Charnley.

  • 10 lesh // Nov 2, 2015 at 12:45 AM

    Why no mention of Steve Harper?

  • 11 Graeme // Nov 2, 2015 at 12:56 AM

    Sliema – Darlow is at least a week away from resuming training after his injury!! We are gambling, yet again!!!

  • 12 Magpie Season // Nov 2, 2015 at 1:28 AM

    Valdes’ wages are the only problem. If Man Utd agree to pay half then okay.

    The only other option I can think of is Amelia, Chelsea’s 3rd choice keeper (or 4th choice since Blackman makes the bench).

  • 13 Magpie Season // Nov 2, 2015 at 1:31 AM

    I doubt the FA would allow us anyway. Remember last season they rejected our appeal when Elliot & Krul were both out & Alnwick had to play in goal.

    How is that situation different to this one?

  • 14 lesh // Nov 2, 2015 at 2:17 AM


    We couldn’t get a loan keeper last season because we had three goalkeepers in Krul, Elliot and Karl Darlow, despite the latter being unable to be recalled from his loan spell at Nottingham Forest.

    We therefore had two fit keepers.

  • 15 Bobbybee // Nov 2, 2015 at 3:30 AM

    Às i can’t sleep due to the pain, i thought i’d sit up. (Even more effing painful). Happy days or what. Freddie Woodman is a very good England U19’s keeper. He first played for our U21’s at the tender age of 14, at bootham crescent, york. Or kit kat stadium or whatever name it currently goes under. Under normal circumstances i wouldn’t hesitate to play him, but with us in the bottom three it’s a case of whether his head is up to it or not. I do believe Krul was younger when first called into action, in the europa league or whatever it was called back then. If my memory is correct he was just 17, but i might be wrong. He made a string of superb saves and kept us in it. He got motm if i’m not mistaken, but if i am someone with put us right. Is Woody good enough? Yes, clearly. Can he handle it? Only he knows that. Tough call for Macca, which is why being gaffer isn’t as easy as some on here think it is. I wouldn’t want to make that call, which is why I withdrew my app for the job. 🙂 He has the ability to be a hero, but the defence to make him a villain should they mess up. If he had a vocal captain in front of him i wouldn’t hesitate to play him, having seen him perform. Like Arma, he was part of the England U17’s that won the European Championship and like Arma has missed the U18’s and gone straight into the U19’s. He has the ability without question, but the mentality is a tougher call. Over to you Macca!

  • 16 ilovetoon8788 // Nov 2, 2015 at 3:45 AM

    we have played well recently. things are better on the pitch(except colo). we are more threatending and are creating chances. unlucky at stoke.

    from hereon with more than a quarter of the season gone, it’s about time we back up those statements with actual 3 points to speak of. we can’t go any longer saying we are better, we played brilliant, unlucky goalkeeper in top form etcc etc.

    points is all that matters.

  • 17 expatmag // Nov 2, 2015 at 3:49 AM

    We need another keeper in regardless because even if Woodman starts, who would be on the bench.

    I bet if it was Arsenal or Chelsea etc in thus situation, the FA would have no issue.

  • 18 terencelim // Nov 2, 2015 at 4:37 AM

    Owner with a bad intention OUT!

  • 19 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Nov 2, 2015 at 5:18 AM

    Someone posted a link yesterday about the rules of emergency (7days) loans. I am still not sure we qualify as the article suggested. We have keepers and three of them are injured.

    I believe it all comes down to whether Woodman has been registered or not? Still it’s only a 7 days emergency loan.

    I am not really sure what a great idea that is anyway unless he’s on the bench as backup. These players have no stack or claim (is that what we need right now)

  • 20 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Nov 2, 2015 at 5:19 AM

    *we have four keepers and three…

  • 21 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Nov 2, 2015 at 5:24 AM

    Morning Expat…surely you are not that irrational? 😉

  • 22 Ron Knee // Nov 2, 2015 at 5:55 AM

    Morning jesper
    So, Rémi Garde to Villa. It’ll be interesting to see how that works out.

  • 23 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Nov 2, 2015 at 6:13 AM

    Morning Ron…that’s gonna be a tough job for anyone mate!

    It would be a tough job here as well if McClaren were to go

  • 24 Ron Knee // Nov 2, 2015 at 6:22 AM


    Which basket case would you want to manage – NUFC or Villa?

    I’ll be interested to see who we buy in January to measure McClaren’s influence, or lack of it.

  • 25 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Nov 2, 2015 at 6:35 AM

    Ron…personally I wouldn’t want to change manager but we might have to if our situation hasn’t improved drastically over the course of the next three games.

    Garde is the guy I wanted back in the summer…I am not sure he’s the go to guy when relegation is looming?

    Ron I definitely hope McClaren has a big say on what goes when January comes. Basically the less say Charmless has the better 😉 lol

  • 26 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Nov 2, 2015 at 6:36 AM

    Ron…we are ruling this morning mate! Alot of sensible stuff being said 😉

  • 27 Jail for Ashley // Nov 2, 2015 at 6:40 AM

    Pills or no pills you are one seriously angry man, everyone’s entitled to an opinion you say, as long as it doesn’t disagree with yours. I misquoted you which sent you in to an apopolectic rage, you said you HATED Ashley and I used hates when I questioned it, ok I’ll requote it using the proper tense. For someone who HATED Mike Ashley you have gone out of your way to defend him and his shady sponsors, you are a firm believer we would have done a Leeds without him and are very grateful for his ‘loans’ so I’m not really sure you ever did HATE him in the first place. Now you don’t HATE him over a two minute interview that promised nothing, I am also giving him another chance to deliver but I’m not so ready to forgive him for the way he’s ran our club for the last eight years. Now noticed how I never called you a nob Bobby, so if you get all apopolectic after someone challenges something you’ve written, it says more about you than me !

  • 28 Ron Knee // Nov 2, 2015 at 6:42 AM

    Great minds, jesper!

    Even Luis Enrique would struggle under the present set up.

  • 29 Jail for Ashley // Nov 2, 2015 at 6:46 AM

    Unfortunately I think Villa are too far gone and that Remi Garde will flop which will have all the Ashley apologists saying I told you so and in Churnley we trust. Last January would have been a great time to give him a go, we were (almost) safe and it would have given him time to work with the players without pressure, but we have Mclaren and were starting to dominate teams now? So hopefully we’ll start climbing the table.

  • 30 Ron Knee // Nov 2, 2015 at 6:49 AM


    I was pro-Garde, too but I’m not sure how things would have worked out with our wonderful ‘Board’.

  • 31 Mag52 // Nov 2, 2015 at 7:07 AM


    As you say we’re starting to dominate teams, although those teams have been Norwich, Scumderland and Stoke,all teams we need to beat if we’re going to be safe this season.
    The next one up, at Bournemouth, will be a big test of the direction team Macca is heading.

  • 32 sparky55 // Nov 2, 2015 at 7:12 AM


    If you’re in so much pain you can’t sleep then I suggest you speak to someone you know who’s in Spain ATM and ask them to bring you back some indomethacin 60mg.

    They’re about 6 euros a box and they are bloody brilliant for pain management and can be bought in any chemist.

    If I don’t get 7 hours kip I wake up a reet grumpy…sleep is key in keeping everyone on a level.

    Two of those an hour before you plan to go to sleep and you’ll float away blowing kisses to everyone on the blog and wake up in a similar mindset wearing 70’S hippy gear.

    All good!

  • 33 Ian Toon // Nov 2, 2015 at 7:18 AM

    Belfast- Even a fleeting guest appearance …… I’d heard you were brushing up for time on here by watching back series of Game of Thrones.
    A wine cellar was always my best guess!!

  • 34 firebug666 // Nov 2, 2015 at 7:19 AM

    It looks likely that we will bring in another keeper today, The Northern Echo has a look at a few candidates we could go for.

  • 35 firebug666 // Nov 2, 2015 at 7:24 AM

    Former Kaizer Chiefs striker, Matthew Rusike, is said to have caught the eye of some of Newcastle United’s scouts while playing for Halmstad in Sweden.

    Read: Rusike Targeted By Swedish Clubs

    The 25-year-old forward has scored five goals in his last 10 games for the struggling Swedish club, including the winner in this weekend’s 2-1 win over Hammarby, and has been impressing in Scandinavia since his move.

    Now, according to Swedish reports, Newcastle United had people at the Hammarby game who were impressed with how the Zimbabwean performed on the day.

    Siya sources have explained that Toon scouts were actually there to specifically watch one of Hammarby’s youngsters, however it was Rusike that actually managed to turn their heads in the end.

    It remains to be seen if Newcastle will actually act on what they saw from the former Amakhosi man, however he will be available as a free agent come January following Halmstad’s relegation.

    A number of Swedish clubs are also known to be interested in the striker following his fine run of form in Sweden since leaving South Africa.

  • 36 mindshaft // Nov 2, 2015 at 7:25 AM

    Bournemouth looked good in the 2nd half yesterday, they played fast attacking football pressing constantly , unfortunately for them they don’t seem to have a decent forward
    however with our defence I think they’ll score a couple which means we MUST take our chances – could be a high scoring game … hopefully in our favour

  • 37 Jail for Ashley // Nov 2, 2015 at 7:31 AM

    We need points, it’s as simple as that, I for one am not blaming the losing mentality on Alan Pardew, it has been common knowledge for the past few years that the season would be written off in January if we were safe but the insistence of carrying on with John Carver was bordering on criminal and the damage done comparable to letting someone drive your motor in first gear for five months.
    Ron Knee,
    Out of the 80 applicants “from within the footballing world” I wonder how many were interviewed or whether it was all decided in a clandestine meeting in a Derbyshire safe house, one thing I’m certain of though is if Mclaren had of been promoted he would have disregarded any secret plans quicker than he got rid of that brolly.

  • 38 sparky55 // Nov 2, 2015 at 7:31 AM

    Dominate my arse!

    We’re playing better football but we’re not getting results…that’s hardly dominating is it?

    You could say New Zealand dominated France in the world cup quarter finals and that’d be a fair statement of fact for sure.

    Creating chances does not equal domination especially when the opposition are creating chances as well.

    See the stats below…Hardly domination is it.

    A more accurate use of the word could have been

    “We’re not being dominated like we were anymore….we’re starting to play like we can, we’re starting to gel, we’re getting harder to beat”

    …but to say we’re dominating teams is bollox of the highest order

  • 39 Jail for Ashley // Nov 2, 2015 at 7:42 AM

    The question is, have we got the foresight, balls or logical thought process to strip Collocini of the caotaincy get rid of STaylor and make a competitive situation for four decent CB’s in January.

  • 40 firebug666 // Nov 2, 2015 at 7:51 AM


    I don’t know what it is with Coloccini and our club, but the man cannot do any wrong in their eyes.

    He has been terrible in defence for the past couple of seasons, and is certainly no leader on the pitch, (don’t know about off it). He wanted out to return to his home town club San Lorenzo two years back.

    What do the club choose to do? Reward him with a new contract and the retention of the captaincy.

    I suspect the answer to your question must be no!

  • 41 sparky55 // Nov 2, 2015 at 8:08 AM

    Morning jail…

    You’re doing a Lesh… so if you keep on assuming our illustrious management team have any foresight, balls or logical foresight then you will also be required to get yersel on the naughty step and have a word a with yourself.

    The only safe thing to assume with this bunch of muppets is that they’ll do the exact opposite of what common sense and undeniable stats would lead any normal person to do.

  • 42 hibbitt // Nov 2, 2015 at 8:34 AM

    one thing we will find out in january is if Mc has any say in the type of players we bring in

  • 43 Ravostag // Nov 2, 2015 at 7:16 PM

    Give Woodman a chance why bring in a second rate keeper when we have a top class youngster who has already played a dozen games this season!! I saw him at Mansfield for Crawley and he was excellent. Give him a chance and surely Darlow will be fit in a couple of weeks. Keep the faith

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