Is This Why Newcastle Fans Are Happy?

Newcastle fans have been very patient this season and again on Saturday in what turned out to be a frustrating game because we should have beaten Stoke but couldn’t get a goal – the fans stayed with the team right through the game.

The fans saw some great goalkeeping from England goalkeeper Jack Butland – who is now pushing Joe Hart for an England starting place.

Newcastle United v Stoke City - Barclays Premier League

Jack Butland – in inspired form on Saturday

This is what Steve McClaren said after the game:.

“We are where we deserve to be because we were not good enough in the first four or five games,”  “That was when we were not creating chances and were conceding goals.”

“Now, I think everybody can see the progress we have made. As Colo was saying in the changing rooms after the game, if we keep going this way, we will be okay.”

In the first six games we had four defeats and only two draws bit since the Chelsea game we have five points from five games but should have had wins against Chelsea and Stoke – and the Sunderland game was spoiled by some poor refereeing.

So we have seen an improvement since the Chelsea game and the big let-down was at Manchester City when we disappeared for 20 minutes and conceded six goals – apart from that we played well.


McClaren refers to what captain Coloccini said after the game – this is what the Argentine, who had a solid game at center-back said to the lads in the dressing room after the game:

“It was mixed emotions on Saturday.” “We tried from the first minute to get the win.” “But we couldn’t get it because the goalkeeper was in inspired form.”

“He had an unbelievable afternoon, that was the difference.” “We tried for 90 minutes to get the win.” “We played well, got the clean sheet and created chances, there were more positive things to take away from the game.”

“We know we have played well in the last two games, perhaps we deserve more than just one point.”

“Against Stoke we played well again and we were solid. We must follow on with more of the same.” “I think the fans are happy because we are showing that we want to win games and play nice football.”

We wouldn’t say the fans are happy it’s more like they see some good football,  but it’s not being rewarded with wins and 3 points.

Newcastle played good attacking football from the first whistle on Saturday and every player knew what was required of them and there was no complacency at all.

Cheick Tiote and Vurnon Anita to their credit also  got the job done in central midfield – in Jack Colback’s absence.

We give credit to the fans for being very patient – that’s  good but it’s also frustrating for them – and it’s now up to our players to get some wins under their belts from games like Saturday – where we were the better side.

If we can do that we should be able to move away from the relegation zone – we are currently 3rd bottom and Newcastle have never had a worse start to a season since we were formed way back in 1892.

Comments welcome.

108 comments so far

  • dogfish

    Nov 2, 2015 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #1


    How about this


    Left back is a huge concern, we don’t have a good one at the club.

  • John Tudor

    Nov 2, 2015 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #2

    we have had better starts and been relegated

    enough is enough
    less talk more action hwtl

  • John Tudor

    Nov 2, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #3

    if villa get the man we wanted
    thats us and the makems gone
    dont see anyone else in such bad shape
    agh knaw give us us another loan to buy crap ashley

  • davetoon

    Nov 2, 2015 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #4

    Interesting discussion about Cisse. Would he have scored those 2 chances in the box that Mitro missed? Probably not based on his last few games imo

  • funlovingexpress

    Nov 2, 2015 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #5

    We are starting to click. When you play good football you get results.
    They are coming and still see us being 8th on january 31st.

    Laugh now, but I will remind you of my prediction then.

  • John Tudor

    Nov 2, 2015 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #6

    not a chance of eighth and im not laughing

  • ShirebrookToon

    Nov 2, 2015 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #7


    i hope your right mate

  • hibbitt

    Nov 2, 2015 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #8

    11games 7 points tells its own storey teams playing good football have gone done its a points game

  • JDdubai

    Nov 2, 2015 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #9

    The lack of quality in Cm is apparent, Anita/Tiote/Colback are not the same level as Mitro, Mbemba, Wini, Perez etc.

    we can have 1 of the 3 of them in the team as the DM but it leaves a creative gap alongside, someone with a pass who can make an impact further up the field, same job as Cabaye did alongside Tiote.

    Yes a Cb to play alongside Mbemba is priority, though he wont start any games until Colo leaves. But a quality CM who can influenece the game attacking-wise is just as important. To only have 3 real CM is not good enough, Abeid shouldnt have been let go without a replacement.

    Maybe if Thauvin was doing anything then he could allow Sissoko or Wijnaldum to move inside but until he or Aarons are ready then we still have the issue.

    And a quick CF to play off Mitrovic would be good, someone with pace. Either that or Perez needs a season of leg exercises to give him that extra yard of oace, so much ability but cant really et away from anyone.

    3 positions a priority eithe rin Jan or the summer. Others as well but those 3 priority.

  • JDdubai

    Nov 2, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #10

    Cisse to go, would take a punt of Afobe or someone like that, could see him alongside Mitro or playing that role himself with Perez.

    Unless we are comfortably mid table, which i cant see, then think we will get 2 or 3 players in january.

    The stoke match just showed exactly what we need to partner Mbemba…Shawcross is exactly what we need. Big, tough, a leader, strong in the air and can organise. Shame we wont go for him.

  • John Tudor

    Nov 2, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #11

    we will just buy more sell on crap to try and make ashleys pockets bulge

  • kakaobi

    Nov 2, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #12

    Love the fact we are 2nd bottom and many of the pundits choice to go down but…..we’re a better team now haha you couldn’t make it up

  • JDdubai

    Nov 2, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #13

    Dream signing would be Tielemens in midfield, not going to happen but maybe we kept good relations with anderlecht after taking Mitro and Mbemba this summer….would be perfect to play the creative CM role.

    Think im going all Kets now but meh..

  • Rotonda heights

    Nov 2, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #14

    I just think it’s refreshing we actually try and play some football these days.

    Yes I would have loved a top foreign coach like Tuchel, FDB, Benitez, Garde and others, but in the absense of that at least we don’t have a Pulis, Allardyce or Pardew who should be done for crimes against football.

  • JDdubai

    Nov 2, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #15


    Do you not think we are a better team now than 5 games ago? Playing better football, showing improvement.

    Chelsea – excellent performance, just couldnt hold out.
    City – first half should have been 3 up, obvs 2nd half horrendous
    Norwich – excellent
    Mackems – 11v11 outclassed them, even with 10 men we matched them. Whole match turned on dubious call
    Stoke – deserved win, crsated chances, clean sheet, keeper MoM only reason we didnt win.

    Im not saying we arent in the crap, the table doesnt lie. But it seems clear that we have improved a lot in the last 5 games from what went on before.

  • John Tudor

    Nov 2, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #16

    playing good attacking attractive football with a crap defence does not always put points on the board
    low points =relegation

  • ilovetoon8788

    Nov 2, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #17

    I agree we play better and it’s nicer to watch. But tell that to me again once we are out of the relegation. Right now, I don’t care. We need points. That’s the bottom line here.

  • John Tudor

    Nov 2, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #18

    im sure jib will google up some prophecy that we will avoid the humiliation of the drop

  • Ian Toon

    Nov 2, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #19

    What is all the talk of dominating games? We still have only won one league game this season and are in the bottom three. The “it will be all right on the night” talk by many who should know better simply allows complacency to be generated. We have been better in recent weeks, but until we start winning games were relegation candidates. Let’s kick off at Bournemouth in what is a 6 pointer.

  • JDdubai

    Nov 2, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #20

    I understand points win prizes and good football means nothing without the points.


    Im just saying i can see improvement in the team and personally i think if we continue to play this way then we will eventually pick up the points the play deserves.

    Id much rather be in our position than the Mackems, Villa or Bmouth etc, at least we look like we are moving in the right direction.

    It comes down to blind faith i guess 🙂

  • funlovingexpress

    Nov 2, 2015 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #21

    @hibbit yes the odd team playing good football has went down but its no way near the norm.

    It is usually the teams who have very few technical players and can only work hard that struggle.

    The likes of Sunderland for instance.

    <We were always going to struggle at the beginning because we completely changed our playing ethos. It takes time to go through that transitionary period.

    Mcclaren asked us to judge him after ten games and that is what I am doing.

    We have played Norwich, sunderland and Stoke since his ten games were up.

    We hammered Stoke, were vastly superior to sunderland until we only had ten men on the pitch and as for Stoke, we would have won that if it wasn't for a keeper having one of those games.

  • Ian Toon

    Nov 2, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #22

    dogfish – it wasn’t only Coloccini that was poor. The priority in January is a strong pacy CB but as you say we desperately need a LB. Aside from being a local Dummet lacks all of the attributes – he’s slow, fails to time his runs and to get back into a defending position. He’s stronger in tackling terms to Simpson but strictly a Championship defender.

  • JDdubai

    Nov 2, 2015 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #23

    The biggest positive change that i can see now is finally, after years of Pards and even the beginning of this season, we have scrapped the 1 up front crap.

    The transformation was instant, Chelsea game we went 442 and since then we have improved hugely. Shows what can be done with a Cf who offers some kind of presence and intelligent players playing off him.

    If only Thauvin or Aarons were playing well in the side, then we could move Wini or Sissoko centrally and have something positive in there instead of 2 DMs.

  • JDdubai

    Nov 2, 2015 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #24


    The LB position is key to how we play as well. With Wijnaldum cutting inside a lot and linking things infield, the LB needs to be able to hold the width on the left and at least have a vague idea how to attack.

    If Haidara could improve positionally then he would be ideal as he is quick and likes to attack, still hold out hope for him becoming our LB though he has a lot to develop- having a strong commanding, organising, vocal left CB alongside him would probably help the lad though…

  • John Tudor

    Nov 2, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #25

    im sure makro will persist in his stubborn ways and not start a side that will perform naturally,
    which means as pardew did before him by not dropping non performing players and playing his favourites

  • martoon

    Nov 2, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #26

    I used to see many posts on this blog saying something like they wouldn’t mind getting beat sometimes if the football was good to watch. Well that’s what is happening at the moment – I’m pretty sure if we keep up this style & standard of football the results will come!

  • John Tudor

    Nov 2, 2015 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #27

    i think more than a few wins were to be included with those defeats

  • hibbitt

    Nov 2, 2015 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #28

    funloveing when he said that i bet he thought we would have more then 6 points should of won don’t count…… put it down to bad luck mismanagement what ever you like but at the end of the seasons its points that count

  • John Tudor

    Nov 2, 2015 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #29

    points dont come easy
    but it helps if you try

  • optimistic prime

    Nov 2, 2015 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #30

    Is there a link anywhere to Armstrongs goals at the weekend?

    I’ve seen the rest this season but missed the championship show this weekend, anyone help as I can’t find em.

  • JP...from The Rock

    Nov 2, 2015 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #31

    Their goalkeeper was inspired form but most of our shots were straight at him too. If we want to score we have to aim at either side of the keeper and not straight at him.

    It was good to see us get a clean sheet and create many chances though. We just need to improve on our shooting and I think we’ll be alright until January were we can bolster our team a little.

  • Ian Toon

    Nov 2, 2015 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #33

    JDdubai- It’s called being a fan. You want it so much that it can blind your judgement. Haidara has promise and would be a better option to link going forward with Wijnaldum. Short term needs dictate a ready made defender who can defend. Defensively at present Dummet is the better defender.

    martoon- I really would not mind a few away at Spurs and Manutd 1-0 victories. You’ll remember when Pardew was Manager. At Spurs when Krul’s was a 10/10 MOM performance. I am not proud – I just want to start winning again. Forget all the usual suspects bs. Dominating games!!!!

  • Rotonda heights

    Nov 2, 2015 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #34

    Being reduced to hoofing and playing for draws with 10 men behind the ball is no guarantee of avoiding the drop either. If you get into a negative mindset and don’t go out to attack and try and win games, you’re doomed.

  • Rotonda heights

    Nov 2, 2015 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #35

    Dummet looks way more comfortable as a CB than LB. Haidara for me lacks composure, footballing intelligence and concentration. MBabu impressed me most but being NUFC promptly got injured.

  • martoon

    Nov 2, 2015 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #36

    Ian @33 – Agreed but some of the football at home was dreadful to watch. Most agree we are playing a better style of football – all I’m saying is I’m sure the wins will come.
    Put it this way, despite getting beat, I’d rather have our squad and setup than the makem’s 🙂

  • optimistic prime

    Nov 2, 2015 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #37

    Thanks jib

    On Armstrong

    He’s scored some decent goals this year.
    The touch to take it away from the defender for his 2nd against Plymouth is a peach.

    He’s in the right place, I wouldn’t bring him back in Jan. As much as Coventry will want him until end of season I’d see how he felt and send him to the Championship until end of season, I think that’s the plan from Schteeve.

  • hibbitt

    Nov 2, 2015 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #38

    martoon that will be no consulation if were both in the championship next season

  • JDdubai

    Nov 2, 2015 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #39


    In a perfect world Dummett would have Haidaras attacking ability and speed, or Haidara would have Dummets positioning and defensive brain. Perhaps Mbabu could be the hybrid?

    Im just happy we have left Pardews 4231 crap behind by the looks of it, finally with 442 we look a better team and are playing much better.

    If we have started the season with it and finished with 11 players in the matches, we could have been nicely placed. Sadly we gave eveyrone else a 6 game headstart.

  • Ian Toon

    Nov 2, 2015 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #40

    JD- Derby fans will tell you that Macca is somewhat of an 4-3-3 obsessive. It’s his fall back position when things are not going well. Playing players out of position which was Pardew’s approach.
    I remember AP as someone who existed under difficult circumstances. It was written into his job description but it’s comforting to realise that Macca has know such constraints in transfer dealings. Pardew was the only manager trying to win against the Mancs.


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