It’s Good News Bad News For This Newcastle Star

Siem de Jong played the full game for the U21 side last night at St. James’ Park when we won 2-0 against Aston Villa and the two goals came in the final 12 minutes from 18 year-old Callum Roberts and both were set up by 19 year-old striker Ivan Tony.

Both teenagers were outstanding for the side and would have impressed the watching Steve McClaren.

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Siem de Jong – getting sharper with more games

But it was good to see Siem play the whole game as he still tries to improve his sharpness and make a challenge for a starting place in the Newcastle first team.

Siem has started just one Premier League game for Newcastle in the almost 17 months he has been on board, although he did go through a very difficult season with injuries last term.

In his seven seasons he had at Ajax, where he ended up captain for the final two seasons, he played 244 games with 78 goals and 48 assists, so he was very productive.

Siem is skillful and like Dutch colleague Wijnaldum in that he can also score from almost anywhere near the goal at any time – and he is somebody we should probably have on the pitch these days when we are struggling for goals.

Siem has given an interview in the Chronicle today and this is what he said:

“I am ready. It is going to be about fitness. I was injured last season and I didn’t play for nearly the full year.”

“I had a good pre-season.”  “After that, the manager made a different choice, I have not played as much as I want to.”

“But I need to keep working on myself. That’s why I am prepared to play with the U-21s to get fitness in.” “Hopefully it won’t be long until I get more first-team minutes. I just need to work on that.”

“If you look at the way we are playing, there is an upward line of progress and how we play as a team.” “I think that’s a good thing.”

“We need to keep on playing like this and we will eventually get more wins.” “We picked up a clean sheet, it’s good.”

“But when you have the chances you want to win the game.” “Everybody has the confidence though.” “That is the main thing in football.”

“If the team doesn’t have confidence it’s a problem. But we do and it’s picked up after our first win.” “I think you can see that in the last three games, the confidence and performances have gone up.”

“We need to continue that.”

It’s commendable that Siem asked to play for the U21s last night to improve his match fitness and it’s good news that he is getting sharper as the season goes on.

The bad news for Siem is that he is still unable to break into the Newcastle first team – and it’s got to be frustrating for the Dutch International.

But he’s being the good professional that he is and pushing hard for a first team starting spot while continuing to be a team player.

it would be good to see Siem on the pitch in the second half of games as he gets closer to match fitness – as he was on Saturday – it’ s just unfortunate he could not get a goal for us.

In fact it’s unfortunate that nobody was able to get a goal for us and it was 2 points dropped against a decent Stoke City side.

Anyway, hopefully we will start seeing more of Siem as the season progresses.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.

50 comments so far

  • John Tudor

    Nov 3, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #1


  • lesh

    Nov 3, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #2

    Can we add the De Jongs along with Thauvin to our list of pups we paid a lot of money for?

    Why do we buy them?

  • Jib

    Nov 3, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #3

    The problem for Siem is he was bought for a specific role and Ayoze Perez was later bought as his back up .Two factors have intervened , Siem’s injuries and the remarkable progress of the Spaniard .
    So now the reality is SdJ is Ayoze’s back up.
    Can they play in the same team , it remains to be seen but I doubt it , de Jong will probably have to wait for an injury to Perez to get a start.

  • Jib

    Nov 3, 2015 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #4

    If buying pups was exclusive to NUFC you would have a case for a whinge.

    However it most certainly is not , I don’t have to insult your intelligence by listing flops in the EPL.

    Buying players is , was , and always will be a gamble.

  • jayphoto

    Nov 3, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #5

    Problem De jong has is depending on the system, hes either competing against Perez ir Wijnaldum for a place and both have exceptional work rate and capacity to run for 90 mins.
    Personally think over the course of the season hel get his chance and run of games. Upto him then what he does with it.
    I actually trust that McClaren plays the best team he can and isn’t afraid to drop people. Glad to see they let Willo go and I think theyre doing the right thing with Thauvin, letting him settle, learn the language and feel his way into the league

  • John Tudor

    Nov 3, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #6

    why do we insist on playing these pups
    to many to mention

  • John Tudor

    Nov 3, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #7

    drop colo hahah your having a laugh

  • Magpie Season

    Nov 3, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #8


    I think Perez & De Jong can both play only if SM gets rid of 1 of the 2 holding midfield players. Or we play a false 9. Or Perez moves out wide if MS or GW gets injured.

    Unfortunately, I don’t see that happening.

    He never should have played 2 in DM against Watford.

  • Magpie Season

    Nov 3, 2015 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #9

    It doesn’t matter. He will go back to Holland & find the form of his life again like his brother & get a national call up.

  • lochinvar

    Nov 3, 2015 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #10

    Way to go Arsen Wenger – plant a trojan horse, revenge is sweet !

    Popular columnist ‘The Secret Footballer’ says Spain midfielder Cesc Fabregas, 28, is leading a players’ revolt against Chelsea boss Mourinho. (The Secret Footballer)

  • JDdubai

    Nov 3, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #11

    Im not aware of any club who has 100% of their transfers working successfully right away, yes Thauvin has been a bag of crap but lets give him at least a season before writing him off. Even though the warning signs were there from last season at Marseille.

    3 out of 4 signings have been successful id say so far, with huge room for continued progress. Thauvin needs serious strengthening work, as well as mental id guess, to get him ready to play.

    But also look at Shaqiri, think we all would have gone for him in the summer ahead of Thauvin but he has done nothing at all for Stoke so far, some players need time to adapt before writing them off.

    Had Depay been fantastic for Man Utd for 30m? Pedro at Chelsea? Firmino at Lpool? NJie and Son at Spurs? All went for way more than Thauvin i think?

    Not sure why im arguing the point tbh as he has been useless, but i think the summer wasnt so bad in terms of successful transfers. Just need the same again in January no doubt.

  • jayphoto

    Nov 3, 2015 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #12

    Reckon hes got a part to play. No way perez will get through a season without a knock or niggle. Personally think Siem would probably notch more goals than Perez but perezs workrate pressing uptop edges it.
    Its a strange one though. When MccLaren had his 2nd spell at Twente, Siem was the best player in the Eredivisie, was expecting him to throw him in.
    I think really, a fully fit, on form best newcastle XI probably has De Jong and Tiote in it. Whether we’ll ever see either of those back to their best is debatable. Both are at an age when they should be at the peak of their game tho

  • AncientC

    Nov 3, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #13

    Buying players is always a gamble, sure, but you can narrow the odds in your favour by buying players that are at least in form.

    What exactly was going on with the deal for Thauvin… he had shown no interest in Newcastle in the past. If I recall correctly the club were interested before he decided to move to Lille instead. He was out of form at Marseille and could not prove himself to a 2nd successive manager, which according to our club was the perfect time to offer him his escape route – putting up £13 million and offering him £40k per week.

    Occasionally clubs sign players and they do not work out, in this instance – the Thauvin deal was completely avoidable.

    My guess is that the club was so keen to get rid of Cabella, that they were willing to throw good money after bad. Now we have an expensive squad place taken up, when it could be being put to good use by a first-teamer.

  • jayphoto

    Nov 3, 2015 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #14

    @lochinvar – yea i could believe that. Found it really odd Mourinho has persisted this year with Cesc. Hes offered very little and his defensive work doesn’t seem to fit with Joses ethos.
    Chelsea need to change their style i think, its been slightly worked out.
    Find it hard to believe they use Remy as little as they do, reckon hed link well with costa!
    Also they spend 24m on a left back, good player from germany yet play Azpilcueta ( a rb) out of position to accomodate ivanovic who has been awful.

  • Blofal

    Nov 3, 2015 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #15

    Very good player and was stand out in the pre season. The only thing that has stopped him coming into the team is Perez doing so well in that number 10 role. But Siem is a good number 10 and should be getting a fun in the FA cup.

  • lesh

    Nov 3, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #16


    Buying pups isn’t exclusive to Newcastle United but you can’t deny that we’ve bought more than most!

  • jayphoto

    Nov 3, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #17

    Reckon Thauvin will come good. I was a fan of his in france and the ability is there.
    If he doesn’t though… Lot of questions have to be asked… There wasn’t a pundit in France that thought Newcastle were onto a Winner with the signing. Add to it its highly likely money was the deciding factor that got Thauvin to sign, he was hardly forcing the transfer and because of this hed made no plans or research on newcastle as a city, no prep into learning english either which hasnt helped him hit the ground running.
    Hopefully Carr has seen something most others couldn’t in Thauvin, but if he flops surely hel have to answer the question of why we spent 13m and 50k p/w on a player that 99% of people thought was a busted show pony trying to be a race horse

  • lesh

    Nov 3, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #18

    Dropping Colo’s a non-starter – he seems to be Charnley’s bestest fwend!

  • Jib

    Nov 3, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #19

    The other thing , is that sometimes perceived pups can have a season or two of dross then suddenly for whatever reason blossom.

    I have a sneaky feeling that Manu Riviere could surprise us yet .

    Apparently under the previous coaching regime he was playing through a mis-diagnosed long term knee injury .

    Now that he has had surgery and is rehabbed we could possibly see a new player.

  • jayphoto

    Nov 3, 2015 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #20

    @jib – kind of agree on Manu. Again the attributes are there. Hes more of a #10 than a 9 tho as his career has shown

  • Mag52

    Nov 3, 2015 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #21


    Interesting discussion regarding our finish a season or two ago.
    Was it due to the preponderance of British players in the team ? Was it due to the remarkably few injuries we had that season, or was it, perhaps, because we punched way above our weight with a very average squad, because we had a decent manager in charge of the team ?

  • cyprus

    Nov 3, 2015 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #22

    Mainly: Fortuity, moments of individual brilliance. Fans and punters alike were perplexed.

  • cyprus

    Nov 3, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #23

    I think that’s not what you were looking for. Apologies.

  • Magpie Season

    Nov 3, 2015 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #24

    Mag52 @21:

    The 5th season – if I recall, Colo was in the PFA team of the year at CB alongside Kompany the year City won their first title.

    Look at him now.

    There is your answer.

  • Jib

    Nov 3, 2015 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #25

    Cyprus and Mag
    You are talking as if that was a one season wonder.
    Remember the following season we got to the quarter final of the Europa league against the eventual winners.
    Pardew was mocked for complaining his squad was too extended , but plenty of managers have used the same excuse subsequently.

  • martoon

    Nov 3, 2015 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #26

    Jib @19 – Like you I haven’t written off Manu yet – I see him as backup to Mitrovich. He holds the ball up and distributes it well – just needs to add goals to his game but that will come with confidence.

  • Magpie Season

    Nov 3, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #27


    Chelski beat Benfica in the final mate.

    We did go from 5th to 16th though. And only Anita was brought in.

  • catchy in norway

    Nov 3, 2015 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #28


    It also had something todo with both Chelsea and Liverpool having poor seasons.
    Chelsea came good at the end , and we were very lucky to beat them,

    I said after many games that season , I scratched my head and wondered how we won some of the games , shocking football with wonder goals .

  • Lindisfarne

    Nov 3, 2015 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #29

    Team to play Bournemouth:

    ———Gini—de Jong—Sissoko

  • Jib

    Nov 3, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #30

    Should have said eventual finalists – doh

  • John Tudor

    Nov 3, 2015 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #31

    google it jib

  • Lindisfarne

    Nov 3, 2015 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #32


    We could have qualified for CL with a better Manager in the season we finished 5th. It does go to show success breeds success which got us to the EL quarter final where poor management was not able to better an established European club and a thin squad resulted in the team being unable to compete at home.

  • Laurent Robert 32

    Nov 3, 2015 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #33

    Catchy, Mag 52, maybe the grass was cut at the right length that season…

    It must have been too long in all the other seasons.

    It could have been science working for him? It wasn’t working in the rest of them.

    Good riddance to that long ol’ nose.

  • Jib

    Nov 3, 2015 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #34

    This shows what a funny old topsy turvy season it was :-

    Kudos to Niall and Biffa

  • Jib

    Nov 3, 2015 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #35

    ol’ long nose surely ?
    Unless it was just his schneck that was old !

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Nov 3, 2015 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #36

    A big thank you to Everton, Southampton and Spurs for doing us a big favour at the weekend, pity we are having to rely on others though.

    It’s up to our lot to take advantage of these results staring with an at Bournemouth.

    I was watching some of those games and was thinking none of those teams have as much skill as our team not even Everton.

    Could be just my black and white tinted glasses though.

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Nov 3, 2015 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #37

    My keyboard seems to have a life of it’s own!!

    ‘It’s up to our lot to take advantage of these results staring with win at Bournemouth’

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Nov 3, 2015 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #38

    Just insert an ‘a’ at the right place.

  • Jib

    Nov 3, 2015 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #39

    Good one
    Always blame the keyboard 😎

  • Jib

    Nov 3, 2015 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #40

    “t” cough cough


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