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Newcastle Will Take Risk – Three Goalkeepers Travel South

11:16 pm, Thursday, November 5th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 58 Comments

It seems that Newcastle will take another chance with Rob Elliot pn Saturday and he has been nursing a thigh injury for a little while now and it went in the second half against Stoke City last Saturday, but the 29 year-old was able to finish the game.

You’ve got to give it to Rob for his courage and perseverance and he made two great saves against Stoke and one was late in the game and the good news is that his thigh has responded to intense treatment this week.

rob elliot in training

Rob Elliot in training

But Elliot’s injury has responded to treatment and the good news is the keeper has trained for the past two days with no ill-effects, but it’s still a dodgy situation and his thigh could go at any time, especially when he is kicking.

That’s how it went last December against Chelsea and he was out for several months after that.

On the plane to Bournemouth will be 18 year-old goalkeepers Freddie Woodman and Brendan Pearson as backup with Freddie on standby for the game.

If Rob Elliot does start the game then we’d like to see some precautions taken such as have one of the defenders take the goal kicks – that will help protect the thigh and maybe he can throw the ball rather than drop kick it for his clearances.

We’ll just have to wait until Steve McClaren’s press conference tomorrow, but if Rob starts we hope there are some measures  taken to protect Rob’s thigh during the game.

Maybe he has a strapping on the thigh and our players restrict their passes back to Rob throughout the game.

If we can get Rob through the game he has two weeks to get fully fit before the next game which is a home game against the surging Leicester City.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.

Tags: Brendan Pearson · Freddie Woodman · Match Preview · Newcastle News · Poll · Premier League · Rob Elliot

58 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Toon Tang // Nov 5, 2015 at 11:20 PM

    He who dares Rodders…

  • 2 lochinvar // Nov 5, 2015 at 11:21 PM

    Don’t you think Bournemouth might notice if our keeper can’t jump as high , dive down, move as fast or kick a ball ?
    Need to play an agile and fit keeper – it’s an obvious choice

  • 3 Mister Tuff // Nov 5, 2015 at 11:49 PM

    Moanster – wow – you like it when Palace lose I’m surprised at that – no extra slice of eel pie for you then.
    Joking aside -welcome aboard the correct thinking club.

  • 4 lesh // Nov 6, 2015 at 12:00 AM

    It would appear that Penfold’s not got the fat in his budget to pay for a loan keeper.

    Or he’s playing at impressing Ashley with his hard-nose ‘make do with what you’ve got’ approach.

    Or he’s just incompetent and thinks that three keepers’ll be enough to stop Bournemouth scoring!

  • 5 lesh // Nov 6, 2015 at 12:06 AM

    Mark Lawrenson writes that ‘In their past three league games, Bournemouth have scored twice and conceded 12 goals so the way they play is clearly not working at the moment’

    Could there be hope we might just beat ’em rather than land the draw that Lawro’s predicted?

  • 6 Laurent Robert 32 // Nov 6, 2015 at 1:00 AM

    Funny stuff on here today.

    It’s a footballing crime that Ben Arfa is still not here and enjoying his football. Another brainwashing exercise from Pinocchio. He’s not the Anti-Christ, he’s just a player that wants to play attacking football, simple as that. Nothing changed my mind then, and it won’t now.

    Long live Hatem. You will never see his skills in 99% of players.

    It goes with all players – Play to their strengths.

  • 7 toonincheek // Nov 6, 2015 at 2:47 AM

    I remember the very early Pardew days, when the Club professed it wanted
    “bums off seats players”.
    HBA was just that.

    Pointless asking him to track back so much –
    far better to plonk him on the halfway line and let the opposition try to cover him with two defenders.
    (pity his team mates wouldn’t have been savvy enough to exploit the space)

    He may have appeared to be selfish, but when no-one was making any runs, what else could he do?

    He was all but forced to go it alone as his default strategy.

  • 8 jimmysmith // Nov 6, 2015 at 3:09 AM

    I remember players making runs and not being given the ball, and then becoming confused as to what to then do, at so at times just pulling up.

    The team was at times terribly dysfunctional, as was he when he played.

    Don’t know why, although I tend to think he struggles to instruction, but that’s how I remember it.

  • 9 jimmysmith // Nov 6, 2015 at 3:10 AM

    “…….struggles to play to instruction”

  • 10 JDdubai // Nov 6, 2015 at 4:06 AM

    On HBA it seems clear that the players bought to replace him are not fit to tie his shoe laces. Such a waste, mainly from Pards but also a percentage from HBA himself.

    On tomorrrow, PLEASE JUST WIN!!!!!!!!

  • 11 toonincheek // Nov 6, 2015 at 4:17 AM

    jimmy –

    OK, maybe HBA didn’t always see the runs made

    and his teammates never knew when he was going to release the ball!

  • 12 TroubledToon // Nov 6, 2015 at 4:27 AM

    Hang onto ur nails lads.. Tmw cud b a nerve wracker

  • 13 Average_Contents // Nov 6, 2015 at 4:55 AM

    Perhaps his leg keeps giving way under the strain of….reaching for those pesky doughnuts.

    Toon tang

    Win bar is staggeringly high mate


  • 14 Blofal // Nov 6, 2015 at 4:56 AM


    You’re exactly right about HBA.

    When he was on song he was unplayable. But he used to always try and take on the man rather than passing the ball. This lead to everyone around him hating playing with him because they would make runs he would just ignore.

    The other problem was he would only beat his man 1 in 5 times. The other 4 times he would turn over the ball and we would get hit on the counterattack with all those players having made runs forward suddenly stranded.

    He could win a game off his own boot for us on his day. But he could also lose it for us. He always tried to do it all by himself. Maybe finally he is learning to let his team mates help at Nice. I wish he would have learnt to do it when he played for us.

  • 15 Average_Contents // Nov 6, 2015 at 4:59 AM

    Hba in!

    Pinocchio the lying wooden boy out….

  • 16 Average_Contents // Nov 6, 2015 at 5:02 AM

    The other problem was he would only beat his man 1 in 5 times. The other 4 times he would turn over the ball and we would get hit on the counterattack with all those players having made runs forward suddenly stranded.

    Lies lol.

    We all know our attacking players never got stranded, they were far too busy defending out of our 18 yard box ?

  • 17 Average_Contents // Nov 6, 2015 at 5:04 AM

    *In our 18 yard box

  • 18 Shot Bru // Nov 6, 2015 at 5:09 AM

    So the plan all along was to risk Elliot, personally don’t think he’ll last a half or agile enough.

    Wally and Penfold banking on Darlow being fit after the international break.

    Meticulous planning and professionalism once again from the board of clowns!

  • 19 Santon03 // Nov 6, 2015 at 5:45 AM

    Based on how we played so far, only one thing missing, it’s our luck.
    Hopefully we don’t have anymore bad luck.

  • 20 Blofal // Nov 6, 2015 at 5:51 AM

    I think Elliot’s thigh is just a minor niggle but they are being overly cautious because our GK stocks are so low. From the sounds of it he was always going to be alright for Bournemouth and they view Freddie as a capable backup at a pinch but not permanently. Hence all the stress about what we would do if Elliot wasn’t fit.

  • 21 SUTTY1978 // Nov 6, 2015 at 6:15 AM

    As far as i can remember, Elliot has only made one real save over the course of the last three games, not sure how Woodman could be any worse, he might just be a lot better?

  • 22 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Nov 6, 2015 at 6:16 AM

    Santon…is something you have to go look for. You have to create an environment where it csn thrives!

    …it won’t just come looking for you!

    I think it’s no surprise we are struggling this season, but I didn’t think MaClaren and his Derby coaching team would be this ineffectual!

  • 23 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Nov 6, 2015 at 6:16 AM

    *luck is something you…

  • 24 Jail for Ashley // Nov 6, 2015 at 6:21 AM

    Surely keepers like Woodman who are clearly seen to have a future should be out on loan, Jak Alwnick gave a very well spoken account on how having absolutely zero first team experience before being thrown in to the deep end affected him, he was courteous not to add that it was deeper than that because it was behind one of the worst defences in the league.

  • 25 Jail for Ashley // Nov 6, 2015 at 6:23 AM

    Mashers reckons from now on we’ll make our own, looks like something else he’s failed on then.

  • 26 Lilongwe Geordie // Nov 6, 2015 at 6:46 AM

    I said that last year about Alnwick. He had been a highly rated age group keeper in the England set up, but never got a chance to go on loan despite being 3rd or fourth down the list at times.

    On Woodman, he has been out on loan and done well, I get why they have brought him back, it isn’t ideal, but we don’t have an option. We wouldn’t be granted an emergency loan if Elliot was fit enough and Woodman was out playing on loan, so little option.

    Personally, I’d rather see Woodman given the chance if there is even the slightest doubt on Elliot. The kid has a bright future ahead of him, and I don’t think Elliot is anything more than okay at the best of times.

    You asked me something yesterday, but I had to dash out, I think it was to do with the current state of the defence being a hangover from Pards coaching? I think it is a combination of things. There is a lack of protection in front of them, Colo got pelters for the second (?) Watford goal, where Deeney controlled it and with Colo behind him and pulled Colo out of position. In that case, yes Colo was at fault, but Deeney had so much space to tie the ball into, a DM should have closed that space off. Colo is knocking on now, and should not be first choice for us, but he probably is the pick of the bunch still – other than Mbemba.

    Mbemba is the other end of the scale, young (possibly) and adjusting to the league. He has made some errors so far this season as well that have cost us goals, but he will hopefully learn.

    Left back is weak. Right back is very good offensively, but isn’t great defensively. Saylor is the only vocal defender we have – maybe Dummet could grow into one – but he is injured more often than not.

    There are big issues with our defence, and I wouldn’t blame Pardew for them all, but that doesn’t excuse the poor defending as a team that we have had since we lost vocal presences – Nolan and Barton (even Smith and Butt) – from the team. McClaren has serious work to do, a central midfielder and a vocal centre half would make the world of a difference.

  • 27 Lilongwe Geordie // Nov 6, 2015 at 6:47 AM

    Apologies for the essay!

  • 28 Jail for Ashley // Nov 6, 2015 at 7:07 AM

    Nothing wrong with an essay at this time of day. We’ve been missing an in form Tiote for awhile now, I was never in to the scapegoating of Williamson as he was a 1M defender bought for the Championship any where else where a newly promoted club survived and pushed on he would have been moved on, instead he has probably had more appearances than any other player over the last four years and probably some ‘purples’ combined, one thing his though you can not question his commitment and effort. However I think this realisation that Collo shouldn’t be here any more let alone have the captains armband is totally justified, he shouldn’t be getting the blame for every goal but his days as a cult hero are well over.

  • 29 Lilongwe Geordie // Nov 6, 2015 at 7:16 AM

    I have no issues with Willo, wholehearted defender who, whilst never being a top Prem defender gave everything when he played and was reliable. I’d happily defend him from some of the OTT criticism, just like I would for Colo. Colo’s situation is different, but in essence both were/are used more then they should be because the club have not gone out and spent the cash required to replace them adequately.

    I know Colo wanted to go home a couple of years ago, but I have also read stuff about his effort and dedication in training and that he is passionate about the club. He shouldn’t be starting at 33 I doubt many would disagree with that, he should have been replaced, but he hasn’t been. That isn’t his fault, that blame lies firmly with those in charge.

    People have an issue with his trips back home, but it is something we offered players as an incentive, I’m not sure if we still do, but Ben Arfa, Cisse, Tiote, Cabaye, Jonas etc all headed home (or to a country they were more familiar with) when they got injured.

  • 30 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Nov 6, 2015 at 7:24 AM

    When has this club turned into a charity function?

    It’s all well and dandy that Willo gives all that he’s got, but when that’s not even remotely enough it doesn’t really matter.

    Lets try and treat this as kids football where everyone gets a medal.

  • 31 Lilongwe Geordie // Nov 6, 2015 at 7:37 AM

    You miss the whole point there don’t you.

    Would you prefer that when Willo was asked to play, he just refused saying he wasn’t up to it and kept collecting his wages?

    Nobody is saying he is great, but it isn’t his fault that he has to be relied upon because those above him haven’t bought in people capable of replacing him.

  • 32 sing in the corner // Nov 6, 2015 at 7:47 AM

    I don’t think anyone could miss your point,it’s blindingly obvious. The fact is that Colo,being an ordinary captain of the team, has been woefully short of ability for an extended period, dropping clanger after clanger. He is bound to get what you describe as ‘OTT’ criticism as long as he continues in roles the majority of fans see him as I’ll equipped to do. That’s life.

  • 33 hibbitt // Nov 6, 2015 at 7:48 AM

    jesper what you have remember is the club bought willo ……………..willo never bought the club he was offered a deal and he took it not his faulty he’s not good enough only the clubs penny pinching

  • 34 Lilongwe Geordie // Nov 6, 2015 at 7:51 AM

    Yeah, but the point remains that these players should have been replaced. All our defenders drop clangers, yet we rarely have upgraded on any of them since returning to the Prem. An improvement at right back (Simpson to Debuchy to Janmaat) and recently Mbemba for anyone of the other centre halves is about as good as it has got in 5 years. Left back has got worse, and thanks to age and injuries 1 of the centre back slots has got worse. That can only be down to those in charge, not the players themselves.

  • 35 sing in the corner // Nov 6, 2015 at 7:54 AM

    Fans are the consumers. They are going to comment on the quality of what is put in front of them. The quality of the central defence is / has been a big issue for a while so the incumbents will get heat. I don’t have a problem with that. The defence of Colo and Willo here is selective. By these standards no criticism of the team is ever justified then?

  • 36 Lilongwe Geordie // Nov 6, 2015 at 7:57 AM

    Criticism can be justified, but Colo gets the blame for almost every goal this season, when it hasn’t always been his fault. Willo got huge criticism constantly. If they make an error it is fair to criticise the performance, but some of it isn’t just criticising performance or errors.

    I have far more criticism for good players ho lack the attitude or aptitude to actually turn in good performances on a regular basis. That is far worse then a poor player giving his best and coming up short quality wise.

  • 37 sing in the corner // Nov 6, 2015 at 7:57 AM

    Yes Lilo, but isn’t that what fans are alluding to when they highlight Colo and Willo’s frailties? I’m sure everyone agrees they should have been replaced but they haven’t, therefore they will be in the spotlight. I don’t think that’s anything personal. People will highlight what they see as shortcomings, we all know it’s the decision makers who put them there.

  • 38 Lindisfarne // Nov 6, 2015 at 8:01 AM

    “Three Goalkeepers Travel South” – following yonder star?!

    Woody should be the starter, as I would like to see a couple of the younger players in the squad getting a run out at Bournemouth. The opposition merits the opportunity to rest those in need and give a chance to others to show their merits. Those that insist we “must play our best team consistently” have only to remind themselves of the mess that created under the previous manager.

  • 39 Lilongwe Geordie // Nov 6, 2015 at 8:03 AM

    As I say, I don’t mind fair and relevant criticism, I have given it to both players in the past. I don’t mind that at all. Some of it is just ridiculous though, and doesn’t actually pinpoint what/who is at fault at times.

  • 40 Lilongwe Geordie // Nov 6, 2015 at 8:04 AM

    I’m not sure our position or points tally afford us the opportunity to not play our strongest available team. Whether our strongest available team contains a youngster or two is a different question altogether.

  • 41 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Nov 6, 2015 at 8:06 AM

    *the last paragraph should read “lets try not to…” 😉

  • 42 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Nov 6, 2015 at 8:08 AM

    Lilongwe…it’s an exercise to short and to the point then.

    Try me again then if I missed your point.

  • 43 jimmysmith // Nov 6, 2015 at 8:09 AM

    I think Taylor should have been replaced, and so Willo would have played less, and we should have also strengthened in other areas, and then Colo would have been more easily seen for the very good player he is.

  • 44 Jail for Ashley // Nov 6, 2015 at 8:11 AM

    Another massive shortfall was having a situation where no matter how badly you played or how many goals you conceded you knew 100% your name was on next weeks team sheet, unless of course you got sent off, which btw I do not believe for a minute Willo did, where as I am certain Collo did against Everton and Sissoko against W Ham? ir Burnley ?

  • 45 jayphoto // Nov 6, 2015 at 8:15 AM

    @lilongwe – always said with Willo, you can’t criticise the man as he can’t be blamed for not being good enough, he always gave 100%
    Criticism should be aimed at the club, who provided a team so poor in defence that Williamson was a best option so often and possibly criticise a manager so short sighted that he saw more in williamson than he did Yanga-mbiwa being allowed to settle.
    Similar situation to Carver. Can’t blame the man for living the dream, blame the men upstairs who made it happen when it shouldn’t.

  • 46 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Nov 6, 2015 at 8:15 AM

    Lilongwe #31…and I missed your point!

    …good to see you have no idea what I objected to.

  • 47 sing in the corner // Nov 6, 2015 at 8:16 AM

    Cool a very good player? Well that’s opinions for you I suppose. I can’t see where Colo has demonstrated these qualities since way before the start of last season myself. Do you see him as a suitable captain also?

  • 48 sing in the corner // Nov 6, 2015 at 8:17 AM

    Cool / Colo

  • 49 jayphoto // Nov 6, 2015 at 8:21 AM

    Regarding the Keeper. For the PL emergency loan technically you have to have no fit keepers classed as senior players. We have at least woodman.
    The rule has exceptions, but you have to submit medical evidence etc, if elliott has trained 2 sessions in a row its possible the medical evidence isnt sufficient to qualify?
    Also…. When was the last time the FA helped Newcastle with anything…
    Woodman looks a lot more of a prospect than Alnwick did. Looks very solid in all areas where Alnwick looked a great shotstopper in lower levels but lacked in other areas

  • 50 Lilongwe Geordie // Nov 6, 2015 at 8:22 AM

    You objected to the idea that Willo shouldn’t get criticism cause it isn’t his fault, the idea that we should all just smile and say well done, even after his substandard performances.

    I never said that he shouldn’t get criticism though, or that Colo shouldn’t. I said that I’d defend them from “some of the OTT criticism” that they have often got on here. Same way in the past I have stuck up for Ashley and Pardew, and just about everyone at the club who I felt was unfairly and in some cases wrongly being targeted for problems not of their making.

  • 51 jimmysmith // Nov 6, 2015 at 8:23 AM

    I think it’s hard to fairly judge Colo as a captain because you don’t know what he’s like in the dressing room, on the training pitch etc, but I get he’s not a vocal leader, but he was the obvious choice, as our most experienced and accomplished player.

    I think we’ve generally been two thirds a decent side, putting undue pressure on our better players, Colo certainly among them.

  • 52 catchy in norway // Nov 6, 2015 at 8:29 AM

    its a sad fact that P45 chased a very good left back out of our club, young santon should be our first chioce right now,
    Dummett is safe, but id rather have him at CB which is his natural position, and hairdryer is good going forward but out of position quite a lot.

    CB Yanga was chased out and not given a chance, oh sorry he was a make shift RB

  • 53 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Nov 6, 2015 at 8:35 AM

    Hibbitt #33…I accept we all live in different places where we view the collective and individual aspect differently.

    It’s clearly a case here mate.

    Willo’s short comings is not other fault than his own. I don’t champion that and I don’t excuse it. The club is not a charity.

    That the club should upgrade certain players I see now quarrel in 🙂

  • 54 jimmysmith // Nov 6, 2015 at 8:36 AM

    I liked Santon a lot, and I think he’d have been very good in this side, certainly you’d think McC would have liked him, but I don’t think he was chased out by Pardew, if anything he was a Pardew favourite. It was under Carver that he fell out with the club, wasn’t it?

  • 55 jimmysmith // Nov 6, 2015 at 8:45 AM

    Mbiwa chased out? Not sure if that’s true either. He seemed to play quite a bit, and more than I would have ultimately liked.

    I do remember him putting in more than one truly insipid performance though?

  • 56 cyprus // Nov 6, 2015 at 8:51 AM

    Read your stuff, makes sense, except the part about Butt and Smith. Coupled with Owen, those were disastrous decisions. Still remember Butt losing the ball in a dangerous position time after time. Not to mention his clumsy pens. Smith? Man, he’d come on the loss was guaranteed. Although he was unlucky injury-wise, like Owen.

    No, these people we have now are streets ahead of those relegation contributors. Even if they don’t shout.

  • 57 jimmysmith // Nov 6, 2015 at 9:25 AM

    From “The Guardian”, and about right I think.

    “Newcastle United remain in a state of anxiety, still stuck in 18th after winning only one of their first 11 games, but there are reasons for encouragement. They were denied their second win by the heroics of Stoke City’s goalkeeper, Jack Butland, last weekend, while the defeat against Sunderland hinged on a controversial refereeing decision. Although Newcastle need to show that they can react to adversity better, the majority of their performances have not been terrible and they could be a force if they gel under Steve McClaren. Aleksandar Mitrovic, for instance, will develop into a potent striker as long as he retains his focus away from the pitch and curbs his aggression on it. With Bournemouth in a rut, Newcastle will expect to win at the Vitality Stadium. Eddie Howe’s strugglers will replace Newcastle in the bottom three if they lose.” JS

    They will take our place in the bottom three should we win.

  • 58 lesh // Nov 6, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    What’s brought on the nostalgia trips?

    Pardew, Ben Arfa, who’s next? Marcellino?

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