Luuk de Jong had a tough time of things when he was on loan at Newcastle last season and he played 12 times for us but didn’t manage to score a goal.
His brother Siem arrived last year and he had a tough season in his first year at the club because of injuries, but he is now fully fit but has played 9 times for us this season with one goal.
Siem de Jong – finding it tough at Newcastle
Both Siem de Jong and Gini Wijnaldum have been talking on a Dutch web-site and Siem volunteered that he will consider a return to Holland if he can’t win a regular place in the Newcastle first team.
This s what Siem has said on the Dutch website NOS:
“If things don’t go my way, a return to Holland is certainly an option. I have always loved life in my own country.”
“Luuk obviously didn’t set a great example. It crosses my mind at times to return to the Netherlands, but I will do my utmost and give my best to succeed here. And club officials have intimated they want me to stay.”
“I could very well have picked up those injury with Ajax as well but it’s very disappointing I was struck with injury woe at my new club.”
“We have a new manager and a new manager wants new players. I can only show my skills when I play.”
A year last January the plan was to bring both de Jong brothers to Newcastle, but with Luuk not doing well they passed on the younger brother but we paid out £6M for Siem on a six-year contract.
We still hope that Siem can come through and it reflects well on the 26 year-old that he is willing to play for the U21 side so he can get match practice and try to get as fit as possible.
Siem is a very good player and if does return to Holland we are sure he will do very well.
His brother Luuk joined PSV last year after his failure at Newcastle and he has 42 goals in 61 appearances including 15 goals in 16 appearances for PSV this season – that puts the reigning Dutch Champions in second place in the Eredivisie 2 points behind Ajax.
We’d love for Siem de Jong stay at Newcastle and become a (very) good player for us – but on the other hand if he cannot do that this season – it’s better for Siem to leave and maybe return to Holland to get his career back on track.
Gini Wijnamdum says he is willing to give up playing in the Champions League every season because the Premier League is such a high standard and he thinks he can become a much better player playing in England.
Comments welcome.
77 comments so far
optimistic prime
Nov 9, 2015 at 3:51 PM
Comment #1I’ve not been to impressed with the squads fitness as a whole so far this season.
SDJ looks the worst of the lot, he’s never had pace but looks now looks like he’s moving through treacle.
He’s a talented player and I’d like to see him given a chance but at the moment he looks like he really needs some serious fitness work, at the same time he won’t get match fit unless he plays. Even Tiote looks miles better after 3/4 games so it would Surley benifit him.
Bit of a puzzle in reality and Steeve will earn his pennies solving it, hope he gets a run of 6/7 games before they think about flogging him.
JDdubai
Nov 9, 2015 at 4:01 PM
Comment #2Cant see how SDJ fits into the way we seem to play best though.
He is a 10, cant play up top, cant handle a 2 man CM.our form i proved instantly when we went to. 442 vs Chelsea so cant see how he will fit in. He was bought under Pards for the 4231 crap last year.
Lets see though, tough to write a player off before he has had a good run. If he does play though, he needs pace around him to do the running.
Sazzer
Nov 9, 2015 at 4:05 PM
Comment #3I think De Jong could be perfect in DM/CM for us. Sort of Lampard role alongside Tiote/Wijnaldum.
Clever players can play in multiple positions just need sometime to get used to it.
We really need to find system that allow us to play our most skillful players at the same time.
Sliema
Nov 9, 2015 at 4:32 PM
Comment #4Really don’t see De Jong fitting in to this current system. He can’t play def mid because as has already been pointed out he looks like he’s running through treacle, but I wouldn’t fancy him on the wing either and I defo wouldn’t be dropping Perez anytime soon.
His kind often get a bad rep when they are in a poor team. Number 10’s really need a run in a team and need that team to play a style which allows them to flourish… We still don’t do that, yet?
Still hope he comes good, he used to be classy.
catchy in norway
Nov 9, 2015 at 4:41 PM
Comment #5For him to be a success , the team needs to be built around him, this will not happen though, the prem is to fast for his type of play, he needs to pick up the pace a bit and play higher up the pitch, he is a teddy sheringham style player, he worked well .
Reyantoon
Nov 9, 2015 at 4:48 PM
Comment #6Crooked..
Send him packing,or make a deal to swap him with Davy Klaasen ! 🙂
Lee Charnley Bunga Party
Nov 9, 2015 at 4:51 PM
Comment #7For De Jong to be a success we need a pacy hard working team around him so he then can play those through balls to the wings and fast strikers and he can arrive late in the box to finish off the move
He will get game time in the next few months as Mclarens first choice attack wont stay fit and I think Mitrovic and Perez are on 3 or 4 yellow cards each so chances of suspension ?
Personally thought Thauvin has done well in his last 2 sub appearances would start him at home against Leicester and drop either Tiote or Anita and move Wijnaldum into the middle
Reyantoon
Nov 9, 2015 at 4:55 PM
Comment #8I see David Moyes has been sacked.It’s a matter of time now before he takes on at Sunderland as I can’t see big Sam lasts longer..
Jib
Nov 9, 2015 at 5:04 PM
Comment #9If SdJ doesn’t work out we should send him back to Ajax in exchange for Daley Sinkgraven.
anthc
Nov 9, 2015 at 5:05 PM
Comment #10Recoup some of the 6 mill we paid and I’d let him go in a shot.
He seems a nice fella and probably is a good player just not suited to our league. You need pace stamina and strength in this league and I’m yet to be convinced he has any of them.
hibbitt
Nov 9, 2015 at 5:09 PM
Comment #11it just makes me wonder why we ever bought him another one of carrs duds
Jib
Nov 9, 2015 at 5:23 PM
Comment #12Hibbitt
I saw one of Carr’s duds yesterday.
He was showing Jurgen Klopp what a midfielder is 😎
JDdubai
Nov 9, 2015 at 5:34 PM
Comment #13He was bought to the the 10 in Pardews 4231 crap. With the right people around him, he could be great in that formation, with 4 hardworking poeple around him in midfield.
Sadly in a 442 it wont work, we need either Perez or a quick little CF with Mitrovic. Think SDJ should move on in the summer, replace with box to box or ball playing midfielder.
Has anyone seen Afobe play for Wolves? Is he quick?
cyprus
Nov 9, 2015 at 5:42 PM
Comment #14Not sure this is quite a Lampard type player. He was all energy.
Sorry didn’t answer Siss debate, had to go to work.
Of course I’m pro Sissoko. He’s a top player, a match changer, he can smoke opponents, they back way from him. I guess if you don’t like him you probably didn’t like HBA either… or Robert… or even Ginola.
I did 🙂
Thump
Nov 9, 2015 at 5:46 PM
Comment #15@cyprus: HBA, Robert, and Ginola had moments on the ball where you just had to sit back and smile. Nothing greater than seeing any of those players crowded out of the game and still managing to dribble around them all – twice – before managing to leave them in their dust.
Sissoko is not that player. He gets the ball and charges forward, sometimes doing something good. He’s at his best when others are doing the running for him and he’s arriving late in the box. The one time I thought “he’s onto something here” was against Norwich, and how much of that was poor defending?
Lucky Les
Nov 9, 2015 at 5:47 PM
Comment #16Harry Enfield has a sketch where an Antique Dealer sells somewhat dodgy or broken furniture to dumb rich women at inflated prices.Substitute Ajax for the antique dealer and Carr for the dumb rich women .Anita a tiny lightweight player who was never going to be a premier league defensive midfield player being purchased for a sum in excess of £6 million and SDJ a player who had suffered from a collapsed lung sold for £6 million.Ajax saw Carr coming!
Jib
Nov 9, 2015 at 5:48 PM
Comment #17Afobe
He’s a flash player 🙂
Geddit
Afobe flashplayer
cyprus
Nov 9, 2015 at 5:52 PM
Comment #18Thump,
Definitely not that calibre, agreed.
But there is something there. We certainly don’t have enough game changers to have the ‘right’ to want to get rid of such players. Diamond – in the rough.
I understand the dichotomy, though, I do. Much like I did re HBA and Robert. Not sure how old you are, but Robert had his fair share of critics… Lazy, can’t tackle, etc., same as Siss. Even our best ever player (Ginola) was accused of the same things.
Jib
Nov 9, 2015 at 5:54 PM
Comment #19I love these footy experts like Les , so dismissive and all knowing .
Did you ever see SdJ in Europe ? He was awesome and Anita was a Dutch international when we bought him.
JDdubai
Nov 9, 2015 at 5:58 PM
Comment #20HBA, Robert and Ginola didnt publicly say they wanted away from the club and publicly whore themselves around to anyone who would take them.
Talent wise, im fine to keep him. But he clearly doesnt want to be here so let him just go then, for the right price obvs.
It cant be good for the squad to have one of your top players doing this 4 times a season. I guarantee either during internationals or just in Janaury he will do another interview in France about it, begging someone to get him out of here.
If you want to go then arrange it behind the scenes. Good job we have him contracted for another 3 seasons, means we should be holding out for at least 12-15m.
lochinvar
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:03 PM
Comment #21Former Arsenal and Manchester City midfielder Patrick Vieira has been appointed as head coach of Major Soccer club “New……….wait for it……
…..York City ” USA.
Shucks -I was hoping he might be one for the New Year.
Another missed opportunity.
Thanks Mashers.
Still Monks and Moyes waiting in the wings if it goes belly up.
GeordieTwo
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:07 PM
Comment #22We are the Champions!
Boom, boom, boom boom boom!
We’ve won two matches!
Boom, boom, boom boom boom!
GeordieTwo
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:09 PM
Comment #23Other teams should fear us now!
Our dreadnought defense!
Our 2 shot attack!
Beware Leicester!!!
GeordieTwo
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:10 PM
Comment #24Jamie Vardy is shaking in his boots as we speak.
JDdubai
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:11 PM
Comment #25G2
Has anyone said anything other than we are a team now starting to go in the right direction?
cyprus
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:13 PM
Comment #26G2,
And so he should mate 🙂
Another 5-2 spanking, of course he’s concerned.
GeordieTwo
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:16 PM
Comment #27Your Senior Official Club Journo continues to get the interviews you want most:
G2: Jamie Vardy thanks for being here with us.
Jamie: No problem G2. I’ve always wanted to be interviewed by one of the top people.
G2: Ta Jamie mate. Now getting down to business how do you feel about your upcoming match against Newcastle?
Jamie: Well G2 it fills me with trepidation. And I hate being filled that way. You look at their defense. Terrific. And their attack. Amazing. You look at their scrambly bits. Brilliant. Just a fantastic side all in all.
G2: Ah, I see. So do you feel you have any chance at all then?
Jamie: It’s a hard one to answer. I want to be honest but at the same time I have to be loyal to me club. Let’s just say we have a huge ask coming our way.
G2: Well ta Jamie. I hope we can do this again sometime. There you have it mates. Jamie Vardy, humbled by the prospect of playing us!!! 😯
cyprus
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:16 PM
Comment #28JD,
Can you remind of what he said? From what I remember, he said he wants CL football, he didn’t even specifically say with another team. I’m fine with that statement.
Though I may have missed a more caustic statement I admit.
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:20 PM
Comment #29I think it’s sad we are so one-dimensional that it’s only 4-4-2 that works and we cannot fit Siem in.
…we all seen what happens when we loose a player!
GeordieTwo
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:22 PM
Comment #30We’re on a roll now! Let’s keep it up lads! We’ll move past Chelsea next. Then it’s Norwich and Swansea. A quick bit of acceleration and we’re near mid table. People jumping on the bandwagon. Women fainting. Men weeping with joy. Small children fonging each other. Beautiful. 😆
Tsunki
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:23 PM
Comment #31Where does SDJ want to go? An old folks home? I wonder if his lung problem isn’t totally behind him, not enough oxygen = very little power or stamina. Plus I bet he gets bad tempered and crotchety ha ha. Shame, I remember watching LDJ stroll out for us and thinking we got the wrong brother, I think a few on here said it as well. Evidently it didn’t matter which one we got. He did used to be good, I know I’ve watched him and he looked the real deal. Oh well.
GeordieTwo
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:24 PM
Comment #32I agree JD mate! This is big! Really big!! This has huge implications for the Prem as we fly up the table. I’m even ready for 3 shots against Leicester! 😯
GeordieTwo
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:26 PM
Comment #33Don’t let it bother you Tsunki mate. We have more than enough in reserve. We’ve got a full head of steam. Even Jamie Vardy is terrified of us!
Tsunki
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:26 PM
Comment #34Hang on what’s he saying, he could have picked up injuries at ajax as well? What? Like a collapsed lung? Yes I’m sure you can get them pretty much anywhere. Hmmm.
GeordieTwo
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:26 PM
Comment #35In fact I’ve never seen a club with a fuller head steamwise. This is very exciting!
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:27 PM
Comment #36I hope both Anita and Siem come good just to show up posters like Lucky Les for what they really are!
…I bet he thinks Colback is a better player than Anita!
Tsunki
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:27 PM
Comment #37I think Jamie vardy getting level with Van Nistelrooy is a safe-ish bet.
Tsunki
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:28 PM
Comment #38When the bandwagon rolls by, could somebody let me know?
cyprus
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:30 PM
Comment #39Congrats to Luuk BTW.
I admit I was fooled by him, I dismissed him yet he’s scoring for fun now.
optimistic prime
Nov 9, 2015 at 6:31 PM
Comment #40G2
Jamie Vardy is having a party and the Toon are invited.
2-1 to us, double celebration.