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These Circumstances May Force Magpies To Bring In Goalkeeper

3:40 pm, Thursday, November 19th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 67 Comments

We’re sure Newcastle are looking at the market for goalkeepers in the January transfer window and by then we should have a good idea if we need to bring in a new goalkeeper or whether Rob Elliot and Karl Darlow can get the job done for the club in Tim Krul’s absence.

The main thing is whether over a prolonged spell in the first team Rob Elliot can stay fit and he hasn’t been able to do that since he joined Newcastle.

rob elliot in training

Rob Elliot – could depend on him staying fit

Rob now has a thigh injury which seems to have weakened because he’s played with it being injured too many times in the past.

We are hoping that the two week International break when he’s stayed in Newcastle will have helped to heal the thigh and that he will be fitter than he was when he started our last game at Bournemouth.

Tim Krul is out for the season with a really severe ACL knee injury and we’d be happy if Tim can be fit to start pre-season – the injury looks that bad.

Steve McClaren has also made it clear that he doesn’t think young Freddie Woodman is yet ready for the first team and the head coach would like nothing better than to send Freddie back to Crawley Town or some other club on loan for the rest of the season.

If Rob Elliot can stay fit the other way Newcastle could be looking for another goalkeeper in January is if Rob doesn’t play well – but his history at Newcastle is that he has played very well for the side when he’s been called on.

That’s also been true in the three games he has played so far for Newcastle and he had a fantastic game last time out.

So it seems that it could depend an awful lot on whether Rob stays fit that will decide if another goalkeeper will come in during January.

Then who we would bring in is another question – but two goalkeepers we have been linked with is former Barcelona goalkeeper Victor Valdes, now at Manchester United and PSG goalkeeper Salvatore Sirigu.

Either of these goalkeepers could be good signings for us on loan – and they could come in and both are experienced and played for top clubs in the Champions League – and this seems the type of goalkeeper to bring in if they are going to start for Newcastle.

And both goalkeepers have something big to prove and would  love to play long term in the Premier League.

Reports that we may try to sign long-term target Jeroen Zoet of PSV Eindhoven are less likely, if only because why would PSG let their number one goalkeeper leave in January – half way through the season?

So we’ll have to wait and see how Rob Elliot performs over the next seven games before the end of the year – but the main thing is whether he can stay fit by then.

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67 responses so far ↓

  • 1 martoon // Nov 19, 2015 at 3:45 PM

    I can’t believe how quiet the blog is just 2 days before a match. So in honour of Indian Magpie:

    1st 🙂

  • 2 will die for the toon army // Nov 19, 2015 at 3:53 PM

    I think NUFC is not going to buy a GK. so end of story.

  • 3 Jail for Ashley // Nov 19, 2015 at 3:56 PM

    Bobbyee,
    I can’t understand how some people are worried about who Ashley might sell up to, there are currently three other owners in the football league who are worse or as bad as Mike Ashley, ok he spent a few quid in the summer but there was eighteen months where he did not spend a penny, football and entertainment were secondary to is plans, we’d have to e pretty unluckyo be old to someone rich enough to buy us that were worse than 88 other owners.

  • 4 Jail for Ashley // Nov 19, 2015 at 3:57 PM

    *pretty unlucky to be sold

  • 5 will die for the toon army // Nov 19, 2015 at 3:57 PM

    I wldnt mind buying U21 players once we have leaders already in the team.

    We have Wijnaldum De Jong Colback and Krul.

    But once we get a commanding CB and tuff talking CM. We hve ourselves a team.

  • 6 will die for the toon army // Nov 19, 2015 at 4:06 PM

    I love De Jong but i see no place for him in our team with the current formation.

    Obertan, De Jong, Thauvin and Cisse shld b our impact subs.

  • 7 martoon // Nov 19, 2015 at 4:10 PM

    Jail @3 – I suppose it’s a case of better the devil you know. However I think the main problem would be finding a buyer at all – Ashley couldn’t last time and Villa has been available for a while with no takers.

  • 8 will die for the toon army // Nov 19, 2015 at 4:16 PM

    Am Pro-Ashely and Charnely and i believe MA is a sucessful and ambitious businessman who wont jst let NUFC fall.

  • 9 Sazzer // Nov 19, 2015 at 4:20 PM

    All for buying or loaning Salvatore Sirigu in January. He’s a great goalkeeper.

  • 10 Jail for Ashley // Nov 19, 2015 at 4:47 PM

    wdfta,
    Have you heard Churnley speak? On what assumption do you say that Ashley wouldn’t let us fall, he has had us relegated once, and avoided it with one and two games to spare without reaching the magic 40 points

  • 11 Tsunki // Nov 19, 2015 at 4:49 PM

    Wdfta- leaving aside the being Pro -Ashley AND Charnley (!) thing…. of course Ashley won’t let nufc fail, it’s a money conduit for SD. But he WILL. Allow it to tread water at an ‘acceptable’ level that does not compromise revenue. Saying he won’t let nufc fail and he will make nufc a competitive sporting entity are two completely unrelated statements.

  • 12 Tsunki // Nov 19, 2015 at 4:50 PM

    Fail fall schmail schmall….

  • 13 Tsunki // Nov 19, 2015 at 4:51 PM

    Martoon – better the devil you know is a saying readily adopted by those afraid of change in any form.

  • 14 mindshaft // Nov 19, 2015 at 5:01 PM

    not sure we should be doing French tributes this weekend , surely Kenya, Lebanon and Iraq who have all suffered terrorist attacks this week should be included ….. ahhh non white .. sorry, will shut up

  • 15 mindshaft // Nov 19, 2015 at 5:02 PM

    anyway don’t think we’ll be bringing in a goalkeeper – McClaren seems happy playing half fit Elliot , Darliws back in a couple of weeks and we recalled Woodman from loan

  • 16 firebug666 // Nov 19, 2015 at 5:10 PM

    As long as Sports Defect exists, then so shall NUFC exist, it will exist treading water in the premier league to serve SD and Mash holdings.

    We will always be given (or allowed) the bare minimum to achieve this goal.

    If we do well in the league, then everyone would be happy, if not so well, it’s only the fans that suffer, so no problem there then, as long as Ashley, Mash Holdings and SD get there massive cuts all is well.

    Relegation would change nothing, they would still get their lions share of any income, and we would tread water in another league, pushing for promotion.

    It’s a sad state of affairs, the fans are divided, the club is a shambles, the football is mostly terrible to watch, but we still make money, ok not so much for the club itself, but enough to keep Ashley and his tat shops anchored regardless.

  • 17 Sazzer // Nov 19, 2015 at 5:11 PM

    In regards to Janmaats top 10:

    Last year us:
    19 games, 10th place, 26 points
    Last year Swansea:
    19 games, 8th place, 28 points

    Our games until January:
    Leicester
    Crystal Palace
    Liverpool
    Tottenham
    Aston Villa
    Everton
    West Bromwich Albion

    How many points do you think we will take before the January window opens and how many points do you think McClaren have to take to keep his job?

    Personally I think we will take at least 10 points and that McClaren job will be safe.

    But he should get sacked after the Aston Villa game if we haven’t collected at least 4 points by then and 7 points in total from these games.

  • 18 Jib // Nov 19, 2015 at 5:14 PM

    Darlow is fit now and Freddie is back to Crawley on Monday.

  • 19 hibbitt // Nov 19, 2015 at 5:39 PM

    mindshaft what are you implying ?????

  • 20 GeordieTwo // Nov 19, 2015 at 5:39 PM

    As the old saying goes “you can drag a snake to water but you can’t make it wear earrings.” This is how I feel about McLaren.

  • 21 GeordieTwo // Nov 19, 2015 at 5:40 PM

    We might get 1 point from the next 4 matches Sazzy mate @17. 🙁

  • 22 GeordieTwo // Nov 19, 2015 at 5:50 PM

    Has anyone seen McLaren wearing earrings? Point proven. Harrumph.

  • 23 GeordieTwo // Nov 19, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    Five points max from the next 7 games. That will give us 15 points by the end of the year. Hmmmm. Not a lot to go on for the second half of the season. Never fear though, Mike is the Man!

  • 24 Jail for Ashley // Nov 19, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    Sazzer,
    Time will tell !

  • 25 TroubledToon // Nov 19, 2015 at 5:56 PM

    Without trying to sound racist, I agree with mindshaft.. What about people of the other countries mentioned in Martoon’s post? What about Syria? What about the earthquake in Nepal and Japan? Havent people lost their lives there as well? Or is it bcuz they aren’t a glamorous country like France?
    Don’t get me wrong… My heart goes out to those who have lost their lives in the attack in Paris, but do spare a thought and a prayer for the thousands of others who live and lose their lives in war torn nations as well. They’re humans too.

  • 26 TroubledToon // Nov 19, 2015 at 5:59 PM

    Sorry… Meant Mindshaft.. Not Martoon.
    Apologies Martoon. Genuine error

  • 27 GeordieTwo // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:01 PM

    I can also feel some silverware coming very soon! I have a small silver egg cup I can have engraved with “Most Bottom 10 Finishes Since 2007 (Championship Season not included)”. Beautiful.

  • 28 BandB // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:01 PM

    Will Die,

    Can you explain to me what intervention Ashley and his cash could have possibly made on the day of the West Ham match to save us from falling?
    It was utterly out of his hands.
    Nor had he done anything in the previous six months to intervene in our dramatic fall down the league
    Had Hull had a disinterested West Ham at home that day and us Manchester Utd ,things could have been very different. As it was we got an hardly earned smile from Fortune.

  • 29 GeordieTwo // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:02 PM

    And once again: Mike is the Man!

  • 30 GeordieTwo // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:04 PM

    I’m very proud of the way we linger near the bottom of the Prem but still have people come on here and say Ashley is doing a fine job. It proves how very tolerant we actually are!

  • 31 GeordieTwo // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:06 PM

    We should all pardon Janmaat. He was dabbling in a little magic weed when he gave the quote about us still finishing in the top 10. Amsterdam is such a lovely place to visit. 😆

  • 32 Jail for Ashley // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:07 PM

    Troubled Toon,
    I donate to every Red Cross appeal including the two disasters you mentioned and the Syrian refugee crisis, please don’t preach.

  • 33 GeordieTwo // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:07 PM

    Everyone is going to want to win the Egg Cup. My bet is Sunderland will have it in there silverware cabinet before long.

  • 34 Jail for Ashley // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:08 PM

    BandB,
    I don’t intend to cause offence but wdfta doesn’t really know what he is talking about.

  • 35 BandB // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:10 PM

    Jail

    Ashley had his head between his knees braced for impact, just like the rest of us.

  • 36 GeordieTwo // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:14 PM

    Here is the famous Egg Cup. Mike Ashley is shown engraved on it.
    http://www.bijouxregionaux.fr/ckfinder/userfiles/images/petits/coquetier-argent-bijou-regional-antique-egg-cup.jpg

  • 37 barkel // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:18 PM

    Martoon @1

    This is my 3rd time trying to post this & that is part of why I think the blog is so quiet. It’s gotten so buggy and spammy, it doesn’t respond on IE at all (works browser of choice).

    Coupled to that the fact that most of the comments here are he said, she said bullsh!t it doesn’t make for very good reading.

    There are still a few here that I enjoy reading their point of view but in my opinion most of the “good” posters don’t show up any more. I don’t post that often but usually read the comments.

    Finally, the headlines on the articles are just “click bait” now and getting very repetitive, there’s no need for it at all. This used to be one of my favourite sites that I’d visit a few times a day, now it’s once a day or every other day in the hope that it’s gone back to the good old days!

    Rant over

  • 38 TroubledToon // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:19 PM

    JFA,
    Glad to hear that u r. Keep up the good work.
    N if u think me stating my views is preaching, then that’s ur view and ur entitled to it. I cudnt care less.

  • 39 GeordieTwo // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:20 PM

    We should have a poll to decide who the best owner in the Prem is. Surely Mike would be right up there. Standing in the middle of all the silverware he has won with us.

  • 40 TroubledToon // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:24 PM

    GeordieTwo:
    Not such a bad idea actually.. Ed, r u listening?
    Btw, G2, who would u vote for?

  • 41 TroubledToon // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:26 PM

    Sadly, for us, its a case of Silver?where???

  • 42 BandB // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:27 PM

    Let’s have a few positives.

    Which was your favourite shot on target against Bournemouth?
    Who’ve we got in the next round of the cup?
    Didn’t our lad score a worldy against France?
    Wasn’t the news from the Fans’ Forum lip smacking.
    All fans long for the good old days, and it’s all our fault.

  • 43 GeordieTwo // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:32 PM

    Well, let me think Troubled mate. I would say we should rank our owner in the same position as we are in the Prem. So errm that would be 17th? Yes, that’s it, 17th best owner in the Prem!

  • 44 GeordieTwo // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:34 PM

    How many shots did we get against Bournemouth BandB mate? I think it was 2. I’m voting for the one that went in as the best one! When you have so many shots to think about it’s a very difficult problem to come up with just one favourite.

  • 45 BandB // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:35 PM

    Maybe Ed should start a thread G2.
    Or run a poll.

  • 46 Jib // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:37 PM

    For those using Firefox
    Open Menu (an icon of horizontal bars)
    Go to Add-ons (an icon that looks like a piece of jigsaw)
    Disable Shockwave Flash
    When you need to view video just enable it again.
    The problem is that so much advertising contains vid content these days it slows everything up.

  • 47 GeordieTwo // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:37 PM

    Barkel mate @37, first you said you read the posts but don’t come on yourself very often. Then I said we have a tremendous owner. Then BandB said Ashley has his heed between his knees. Then I said we should have a top owner poll. Then Troubled Toon challenged me on this. How can you be disappointed with this kind of Blog Quality? Colour me puzzled…..

  • 48 TroubledToon // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:38 PM

    And in news just in…..
    After hearing of GeordieTwo’s ranking system of Premier League owners, Roman Abramovich has decided to sell Chelsea and put in a bid for Leicester City 😀

  • 49 GeordieTwo // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:40 PM

    Just to brighten up everyone’s day I have a Dr. Seuss quote:
    Today you are you! That is truer than true! There is no one alive who is you-er than you!
    Now then, does everyone feel better?

  • 50 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:40 PM

    Alot of political correctness and moral high ground on the blog these days…

    …I didn’t know I had to save a prayer for everyone in order to send my deepest condolences to the people of Paris!

  • 51 GeordieTwo // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:41 PM

    Good one Troubled mate @48! 😆

  • 52 Jib // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:42 PM

    Perhaps that should be “slow down”
    speed up – slow down ?

  • 53 TroubledToon // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:42 PM

    Cheers G2 🙂

  • 54 GeordieTwo // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:43 PM

    All the hate and violence in the world is disgusting. People should just come on here and have fun. If you’re having a bit of a giggle it’s hard to find the time to hate someone.

  • 55 Jail for Ashley // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:44 PM

    Troubled Toon,
    No bother but you weren’t expressing an opinion you you telling people what to do, I for one don’t need telling.

  • 56 BandB // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:45 PM

    I think a lot of the top posters probably couldn’t stand any more of the embarrassment of tipping us off about world beaters we had in the bag that went elsewhere, top four challenges that turned into relegation scraps, and waiting for the glorious day when all the ignorant “neggers” would have egg all over their faces as Ashley’s “plan” came up trumps.

  • 57 TroubledToon // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:45 PM

    Well said G2.

  • 58 TroubledToon // Nov 19, 2015 at 6:52 PM

    Uv taken the meaning to my post differently JFA. I mentioned Mindshaft’s post where he/she mentioned about tributes this weekend. My reference was towards that. Not to you or any other individual on the blog.

  • 59 Jail for Ashley // Nov 19, 2015 at 7:08 PM

    Troubled Toon
    Ok. Peace be with you.
    Posters have come and gone for all kinds of reasons over the years, the blog was at its livliest when there was healthy ( and unhealthy) debate on whether Ashley was good for the club, now that it has been shown without doubt that the man has had no ambition for the footballing side of the club added to the fact that results are terrible has left us with not much to talk about

  • 60 TroubledToon // Nov 19, 2015 at 7:13 PM

    True JFA. I’m just desperately waiting for the day he sells us. Wonder if that’ll ever happen though. 🙁

  • 61 mindshaft // Nov 19, 2015 at 8:13 PM

    I’m not preaching to anyone – just giving my opinion
    Ashley good for toon – not sure how people can say that although saying that other than the KK and SBR we’ve always been a bit of a mid table team

  • 62 Rotonda heights // Nov 19, 2015 at 8:17 PM

    Mindshaft

    Can you explain your very strange comment

  • 63 Jail for Ashley // Nov 19, 2015 at 8:28 PM

    If I’ve said this once I’ve said it a hundred times, until Mike Ashley took us over we sat sixth in the all time PL points despite starting a year behind all he other clubs in and ar

  • 64 Jail for Ashley // Nov 19, 2015 at 8:29 PM

    around us

  • 65 BandB // Nov 19, 2015 at 8:37 PM

    Mineshaft,

    I wouldn’t argue that we are underfunded or under-achieving in historical terms.
    It’s “What have the Romans Ever Done For Us?” and all that.
    A good chairman can get more out of our potential if he wants to. As has been shown.
    We don’t do better because we don’t want to, and that is what gets me and thousands of others.
    We are a caged bird.
    We won’t starve.
    But the price is that we can’t fly either.

  • 66 Sack Llambias // Nov 19, 2015 at 8:38 PM

    Jail
    Is repeating the same rubbishy he has for years and lost the plot when you bother to think . I used to support him until I examined the facts really got nowt new to say is fighting a lost cause because Ashley is now on a spending mission and proving him wrong last window and the next I would bet . Ashley spent – In’s and outs

    Alan Smith (£7.9m), left for £0m (-£7.9m)
    Joey Barton (£7.6m), left for £0m (-£7.6m)
    Xisco (£5m), left for £0m (-£5m)
    Danny Guthrie (£3.8m), left for £0m (-£3.8m)
    Tamas Kadar (£1.2m), left for £0m (-£1.2m)
    Kevin Nolan (£4m), left for £3m (-£1m)
    Sebastien Bassong (£1.6m), left for £8.2m (+£6.6m)
    Demba Ba (£0m), left for £7.5m (+£7.5m)
    Yohan Cabaye (£4.4m), left for £20m (+£15.6m)
    Total: £+3.2m

    There was ‘buy cheap, sell high with , Ba, Bassong and Cabs. Other players bought and sold in his time shows asmall losses/gains less than £1m.

    The total profit on transfers under Mike Ashley sits at £39.3m, which if you take into account that a single, daft, transfer was for £35m, shows how his model just isn’t making any money – £4.3m in 6 years or £716,000 a year. The reason that he’s made any money at all from selling players is due to the crazy price Liverpool paid for Andy Carroll, £35m for a £10m player, and because he sold lots of players he inherited – James Milner (£13m), Obafemi Martins (£9m), Shay Given (£8m), Charles N’Zogbia (£5m) etc.

  • 67 Ravostag // Nov 19, 2015 at 9:24 PM

    Why do we want to sign a celebrity GK like Valdes. Go for an experienced Championship or Division 1 Keeper, plenty about, better and cheaper than Premier League 3rd choices.




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