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Video – McClaren´s BBC Interview – Second Best In Every Area

6:58 pm, Saturday, November 21st, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 92 Comments

Here is Steve McClaren’s BBC interview after the game and he says he understands completely why Newcastle fans were unhappy at the end of the game.

Newcastle fans were unhappy because we were hopeless especially in the second half and we were no threat up front at all and that’s the seventh league game in 13 that we have failed to score.

Steve McClaren Close Up B+W 2015

Steve McClaren – we were second best today

And with the three goals we have conceded today it? now 25 goals in 13 games – so those are some of the reasons why Newcastle fans are upset right now.

Steve has said today what he has said a few times when we have been beaten – we are too inconsistent and we were poor – but we were badly beaten today.

At some point the results must come – and the sooner the better – we were as bad today as two weeks ago at Bournemouth but Leicester took three of the chances they had – and in truth the scoreline could have been a lot worse – it was that bad.

Here is the video of the interview.



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92 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Jail for Ashley // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:05 PM

    Not convincing, no mention of the utter dross against Bournemouth two weeks ago.

  • 2 stestickle // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:06 PM

    aye same old drivel

  • 3 jane // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:06 PM

    Jail you must be revelling in it.

  • 4 Munster Mag // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:07 PM

    Catchy, your only consistent contribution to this blog was to slag off Pardew, who then goes and laughs in your face and proves you conclusively wrong by taking a nice payrise and saving Palace and establishing them as a top 10 team. You have never allowed for the fact that some managers improve over time, and this clearly is happening here. This Catchy, is your contribution . And you call me a dinosaur because I dont rate Thauvin , a player who has done next to NOTHING since he has arrived here. Are you having a laugh or just on the sauce a bit early tonight.

  • 5 jane // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:10 PM

    Liverpool’s turn-around in form shows the difference a good manager can make.

  • 6 hibbitt // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:11 PM

    not sure how many on here understand just how much trouble we are in to many look at fifa/football manager and think they know it all well lads were in the shit and sinking fast piss poor players piss poor manager piss poor owner big big problems that wont be sorted overnight

  • 7 andrew84 // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:11 PM

    Munster

    I think it’s a bit early to call Palace an ‘established’ Top 10 club. They scraped a top 10 finish last season but there’s plenty of time left this season for them to slip down the table.

    When we finished 5th nobody considered us an ‘established’ top 5 club. As I remember the vast majority of neutrals and pundits considered it a major fluke. And sure enough look what happened the season after…..with Pardew still in charge.

  • 8 Munster Mag // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:13 PM

    Ibiza, hope all warmer where you are….re OMC ( old man carr) , what were his outstanding signings? Cabaye ? ( who was a french international anyway ) . And then we see the pile of softcocks he signed ….Thauvin, Santon, Cabella , Gouffy, Mbiwa etc. Whats his love of french flimsy wingers all about ? Why didnt we compete for Mahrez? I know other teams have scouts etc and we cant win them all , and I know Ashley doesnt help but how come Watford and Leicester can put together teams of hard working honest sprinters who WANT TO WIN , and we get ….Gouffy and Amalfitano. I know they didnt cost loads but its friustrating. Catchy will blame Pardew, and some of that is undoubtedly fair but jeez…..

  • 9 Blackley and Brownlie // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:16 PM

    Pathetic. Embarrassing. Humiliating.

  • 10 Blackley and Brownlie // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:17 PM

    Only ones to come out with any credit are Anita and Elliott.

  • 11 Graeme // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:17 PM

    I would take issue Ed. We weren’t badly beaten, we were easily beaten.
    We were a very poor excuse of 11 people pretending to be a football team.

  • 12 toon kk // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:19 PM

    We’re sh.t, unfit useless lazy bunch of no
    hope r’s totally out of their league.
    we’ll go down and it’s no more than the players deserve. I honestly can’t see the attraction of paying too watch so much dross..
    how much longer will it take before the pathetic scouting will see the errors of their ways.

  • 13 Ron Knee // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:21 PM

    Graeme
    Under Ashley it’s a pretence football club.

  • 14 Blackley and Brownlie // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:21 PM

    Leicester’s centre backs were like two doorman throwing a young buck (Mitro) out time after time. Even giving him a clip for his impertinence.

  • 15 Ibizatoon // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:23 PM

    Munster…Perhaps I take your posts on Carr to mean more than you actually mean. Clearly responsibility will be spread out between all involved.

    I hear the argument he has too much control, I’m not sure it’s true, but can see the logic behind it. However, surely that’s the owner and MD’s fault for elevating him above his position?

    As for being a scout, he is no messiah and yes, people did go over the top at first. He’s a good scout though, imo. The last window, Thauvin aside at the moment, the players look like decent buys. Perhaps not what we needed at the time, but decent all the same.

    He picks some good ones, like say Perez, and he picks some rubbish. Although I don’t agree with your list, as you’re aware.

    “hard working honest sprinters who WANT TO WIN”

    Honesty, hard work and a desire to actually win are fundamental issues at our club. Not just in the playing squad. That has very little to do with Carr, and very much to do with one man.

    Sorry, I may sound like a broken record, but I am yet to see one reasonable argument as to why it doesn’t lead back to Ashley and the way he wants the club run.

    Just like you think Catchy goes too far with Pardew (I do too), you seem to be doing the same with OMC. I guess you’d view that I do with Ashley too. Getting dizzy yet?

  • 16 Blackley and Brownlie // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:23 PM

    Thauvin. F******** Tragic. I said it would be when he came on.

  • 17 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:25 PM

    Ron Knee
    As to your earlier questions

    Yes the team were booed and with about 10 minutes to go i say it was the biggest walk out I have witnessed at the TOON
    Lucky there were 10,000 in the ground and 3,500 were leicester fans
    And at the end for 7,000 TOON fans to a man booed the useless tw**s of the pitch.
    And yes something has too change at the TOON players come players go managers come managers go yet we turn out the sam cannot be bothered performances week after week. Did any one see a player run today bust a gut to get on a pass play a one two – not me.

    If i had to single out players who tried Janmaat first half and Anita who I felt sorry for – given the ball/carried it out of defence looking for a player to pass to -but – no sod wanted the ball
    As for Mitrovic bloody waste of space all he wants to do is chest the ball down then argue someone had nudged him – reactions slower than a slug – sorry the boy has a lot to learn

  • 18 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:25 PM

    The worst part about it was watching Danny Simpson stroll through the game with a cigar even had the cheek to nearly score a goal !!!

  • 19 Blackley and Brownlie // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:26 PM

    The players looked goosed in the warm up. Half hearted. Always a bad sign. And to think I was called a dinosaur on here for saying the players need to be hammered to get fit. I was told how clever Makro was for having the lads doing ball skills.

  • 20 isleofmanman // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:27 PM

    Look. Its not difficult. The CEO is Ashley’s bag carrier. He is a jobsworth. EVERYTHING cascades from the top.

    I strongly recommend that when this Limited Liability Company is sold to a new shareholder every official should be vetted so that noone could ever be accused of complying with the BMA’s definition of clinical obesity.

    Lardiness and success in Premier League foorball are rare bed fellows

  • 21 Blackley and Brownlie // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:29 PM

    Charlie
    Wijnaldum was anonymous except when he cocked up. Thauvin was tragic. Mitro was bossed. Mbemba wasn’t great. I wouldn’t trust Graham Carr with my Tesco Clubcard points.

  • 22 Tsunki // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:29 PM

    Munster grabs a opportunities to express his lofty views on the ascendancy of King Pardew, even when it doesn’t call for it. How he is relevant to what is happening to nufc today? Anyone? Who is the last one out of the Blue Sky Lounge? Can he turn the gas off?

  • 23 Ron Knee // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:30 PM

    Charlie
    Thanks. At SAFC a walk-out means time to change manager, but I can’t see it happening at SJP.

  • 24 Munster Mag // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:31 PM

    Tsunki, I dont have lofty views on pardew. You know that, but you’re too stupid to accept it. Pardew is a mid table mgr, not the monster portrayed by many here. Geddit ? No ?

  • 25 Tsunki // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:32 PM

    Blackley it’s been painfully obvious we haven’t had a fit squad for years. Injuries, anyone?

  • 26 Mister Tuff // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:32 PM

    Jail – the model of Mr Tubbs – doing things on the cheap/bucking the system would have been tremendous – if it had worked. Unfortunately X number of years later we now have plumetted to depths of the football world. Joke club/joke staff-hierarchy/embarassing PR.
    Unless they really do change their ways (they say they have but folk are sceptical) we will be playing in the Championship next season.
    Mr Tubbs could have injected emergency cash into the system to get us up and running properly at decent level and then slowly build from there -but they gambled again in the summer to build over this season – might be a costly error (yet again).

  • 27 Mister Tuff // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:34 PM

    moanster – stop your lovefest with King Percy it is becoming very worrying.

  • 28 lochinvar // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:35 PM

    9 points off Palace in 10th and that’s 12 if they rip us apart.
    Mclaren has no place to hide. He’s as inspiring as a wet mackerel.
    The players have no interest, it’s not even funny it’s an insult.

    The tactics are inept, how does it go.
    McLaren ” Footballs a game of two halves. In the first half I want you to pass sideways and backwards and try to keep the ball if you possibly can. Then in the second half just do the same. If they don’t score we’re on for a point. Jobs a good un. Isn’t it ?”

    Leicester fed their 3,000 fans before they travelled . Newcastle failed to offer a cup of tea to visiting press.

    Ashley has no class, no idea, no plan. It’s shameful and embossing .
    The club has been sterilised.

  • 29 Munster Mag // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:37 PM

    In fact Tsunki, he’s probably mid table at best. Ibiza, I agree re Ashley – he has undermined the club at every stage, and although we are sound financially, we have no soul left. But Carr is the de factor DOF, he will choose our next manager ( interesting that his other choice was Garde, who is a banana and will fail at Villa ) and he has chosen, and will choose, all the players we buy. Of course its not all his fault, and i dont mean to go OTT in that sense. But his input is so significant that he is culpable in the tragedy .

  • 30 Tsunki // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:37 PM

    You think I’m stupid, Munster? You’re probably right. For instance I don’t understand why you twist my observation of your blogging staple into a personal attack. You don’t come out of this looking good do you?

  • 31 toon22 // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:40 PM

    For me todays “game” was like Leicester was the toon under KK and we were like Leeds,both teams going in very different directions.
    Under KK at the start we had a similar team with similar eithics,untill MA sells we are a non club.
    Nothing more than an a tatty advert.

    No new manager to X amount spent on more mercinaries who are only bought with a sell on in mind will fix anything for us.

  • 32 Blackley and Brownlie // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:42 PM

    I used to read the craic on here that Makro has made a noticeable improvement in the playing style. Some people talk shite. Where has the improvement been? We’re top relegation candidates, Jib.

  • 33 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:43 PM

    Ron
    have you a answer for the TOON cos I bloody well haven’t.
    Sack Mc what will the powers that be bring in another useless old twa* who is passed it.
    Stuff the Money – Maybe as I said earlier maybe relegation wouldn’t be a bad thing – SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE !!!!!!!!!!

  • 34 toon22 // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:44 PM

    Imho even AF coulnt fix the shambles of a club atm,its rotten to the core and for a very good reason.

  • 35 Blackley and Brownlie // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:45 PM

    Old Blackley’s dressed in a DJ sitting in the corner next to the bar at a ball ignoring everyone. Dinner is now being served so I’ll have to go and mix I suppose. What a day. Tragic.

  • 36 Tsunki // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:45 PM

    Remember the days when the likes of Ipswich, Leeds, Blackburn and Bolton were immovable mid table regulars season on season and then, all of a sudden….welcome to that world, welcome to the slide down to obscurity.

  • 37 Munster Mag // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:46 PM

    Tuff, use your brain instead of your muscles. You might see what I am trying to say then. I dont rate Pardew that highly at all, it just suits numpties on this site to think so. In fact I rate Pardew as average or probably below, but dont let that get in the way of missing my point entirely.

  • 38 toon22 // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:48 PM

    We are undoubtedley are doing a Leeds atm,its a slow death.A one which we may never recover from.

    Hope the fat greedy get looses his shirt with us.

  • 39 Munster Mag // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:50 PM

    Tsunki, our problem as I said weeks ago, is now Sunderland, or more to the point, Fat Sam. If Sam is good enough to save them ( and he probably is ) , then we are running out of teams to stick below us in the bottom 3. Whatever team is 3rd or 4th last is crucial to our survival. Had Sunderland chose some overrated foreigner like Villa, then I would be happier, but Sam knows how to survive. The good news is that Sunderland are terrible, but he may be good enough to get them the extra 12 points that saves the buggers.

  • 40 Munster Mag // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:50 PM

    1 to 2 points , not 12 points sorry.

  • 41 Ron Knee // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:50 PM

    Charlie

    I’m as gloomy as you. Unless Fatso changes the blueprint – or preferably goes – we’ll continue to be in the sh*t.

    As you say, there’s little chance of a decent replacement if McClaren is sacked or resigns. Nobody worth his salt would want the job.

  • 42 toon kk // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:51 PM

    The players simply aren’t good enough to compete in the premier league. Poor scouting has brought a squad of flops together.
    For me the biggest problem is the players don’t give a shit and clearly aren’t match fit.
    I could accept getting beat if we give 100% but just turning up isn’t acceptable.

  • 43 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:54 PM

    The most worrying thing is the complete sense of denial by everyone at the club.

    Summer spending not enough on players of the same mould that had got us in this situation in the first place. Ignoring the opinions of fans and pundits and the general public, that we needed some older heads with some experience and steel.

    Then today McLaren tops it off by saying this performance was off the back of a very good run? Excuse me a very good run? No we scraped a win at Bournemouth, couldn’t beat Stoke at home, and had a fluke result against Norwich. That’s not a very good run, it’s average at best.

    The issues are the same, we had Pardew, Carver and McLaren all claiming these types of performances ‘aren’t us’. They are synonymous with NUFC now and have been for nearly 4 years, we regularly get battered by 3 or more goals.

    When will the club wake the hell up and sort it out? It’s virtually too late as it is now.

  • 44 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:55 PM

    Ron
    and no player would want to come either.
    Has anyone else seen a team give as much space to a opposition team as today – bloody embarrassment.
    The way I fell at the minute they can get rid of the bloody lot in the transfer window gutless bunch of so-called ‘footballers’

  • 45 lochinvar // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:57 PM

    A health warning is needed for the club.
    Never in 40 years have I seen such deflation .
    Disney on ice is more exciting but then again maybe that’s the level Ashley wants for the club – make it sanitised and sell more ice cream to the kids at half time.
    The lights have been switched off.

  • 46 Ron Knee // Nov 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM

    Geremi
    Don’t worry. They’ll probably buy a couple more French wingers in the January Sales. That’ll sort it out.

  • 47 Tsunki // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:00 PM

    Munster, your veiled admiration of Pardew is betrayed by your assertion that he is a capable mid table Manager, based on the showing of not one complete season with an inherited team, rather than poring over his indelible disastrous club record – breaking catalogue of gaffes, lies and failures. His embarrassing record is being conveniently whitewashed over slowly but surely in the same way as Ashleys, so that we who knew that we were observing the wrangling of a jackass out of his depth as he was being yanked limb by limb by Mike’s puppeteering, could be ridiculed for our apparent lack of knowledge of the “King” and that the real cause of our problems lay elsewhere. How cruel we were and the whole PardewOutCrew/Mob/Collective/Shower/Rabble/Crowd for singling out the hapless silver haired misunderstood genius of mid table mediocrity. Rubbish. You truly do think we are all idiots.

  • 48 Ron Knee // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:03 PM

    Charlie
    We needed 7 or 8 new players brought in in the summer!

  • 49 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:09 PM

    Thing is its not French players or French league based players that are the problem Payet , Mahrez , Kante , Kouyate , Sakho, Ayew all were tailor made for the premiership and did not cost an arm and a leg and came from the same league where we have wasted near enough 30 odd million on Cabella , Thauvin and Riviere

  • 50 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:11 PM

    Evening Ron…did you waste a few valuable hours of your life this afternoon as well?

  • 51 nearly // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:16 PM

    my god how bad was that what is peoples thoughts on thauvin wearing gloves i feel so ashamed no player should be cold when playing on the pitch

  • 52 jimiley // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:17 PM

    We need to keep the faith in Steve and the boys. Judge him in May.

  • 53 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:21 PM

    Also the sight of Thauvin smiling on TV when fluffing crosses and chances along with Cisse doing the same was sickening such bad attitude going through the club

  • 54 jane // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:22 PM

    Tsunki Pardew was better than the PardewOutCrew/Mob/Collective/Shower/Rabble/Crowd gave him credit for which I think is all Munster is saying.

    bit like you 😉

  • 55 Rotonda heights // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:22 PM

    munster

    you are blatantly shameless with your hypocrisy. you used to slam AP as much as anyone. Talk about fickle and running with the crowd.

    truth be told AP, JC, SM, jfk etc should never have got anywhere near this club, along with charnley, carr, ashley and wonga. all of them an absolute stain on this great institution.

  • 56 anthc // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:23 PM

    Judge me after 10 games….
    Steve this is simply not good enough and the buck stops with you!
    Yes we’ve played well occasionally but bad performances far out way them. We are a terrible team in danger of going down.
    Players don’t seem interested, carrs alleged diamonds are zirconia’s! The club needs a good clear out behind the scenes as well as the playing staff. I’m fed up of paying money, using time off to sit in the cold and watch that dross. God help us the next few games I think us blunderland and villa must be favourites for the drop.

  • 57 toon22 // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:24 PM

    Agree with Ron at 46

    More small French/Dutch wingers who have a shocking injury record will fix this in Jan.

  • 58 Rotonda heights // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:25 PM

    LCBP

    it’s hilarious when the club puts out BS like they are looking for good characters, knowing the antics of mitro and thauvin!

  • 59 andrew84 // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:25 PM

    LCBP

    I agree about Cisse, the amount of times I’ve seen him fluff a golden opportunity to score, or strayed yards offside time after time after time, just to then see that daft smile on his face…I should be on Prozac by now…

  • 60 Jib // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:30 PM

    Róm var ekki byggð á einum degi

  • 61 Munster Mag // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:31 PM

    Tsunki, people who hung Pardew as an imbecile instead of seeing the bigger picture at the club could easily be conceived as idiots, yes. The Ashley / Carr axis is fundamentally flawed and the choice of players for the club is doing us no favours. If you have read my assertions over two years I have said that the vilification of a very average manager / below average manager was missing the point at the club. I was very hopeful Schteve would do better but from talking to an ardent Forest pal, he talked the same some of game there, and although he was shafted a bit, he didnt cut the mustard. Believe it or not, i actually enjoy Palace losing and am amazed that they can score from frees and corners wehn we couldnt, but i think we over emphasised Pardews weaknesses. I think he will be below mid table next year, maybe worse, so believe me , i dont think he’s a genius etc. I just dont know where we will be, beause i cant find 3 definitively worse teams than us. All I do know is that is Schteve stays, he needs to be allowed final say on players in January.

  • 62 lochinvar // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:34 PM

    No tea lady.
    Soft lads wearing gloves on the pitch.
    Moaning Minnie’s in the team.
    Colo as Captain.
    Carr passed his sell by date.
    McLaren as dull as a wet fart.
    Players ( if that’s what you call them ) not fit to wear the shirt
    Shirt design that looks like a dogs dinner
    Wonga
    Sports Direct
    He who should not be talked of.

    Did I miss anything ?
    Well yes – about 10 minutes of the match – the first time I’ve walked .
    How did I feel.
    Good – beat the traffic.
    That’s how sterile the whole tragic mess has become.
    Moyes – no
    Rodgers – no
    Viera’s gone to the States.

    Is there anybody there ?

  • 63 Munster Mag // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:36 PM

    Jane, thanks for clarifying. Rotunda, guys like you were circle jerking when Pardew Out was written. Smarter fans felt that a manager who got 5th ( a bit luckily ) was not completely useless, and blame needed to be shared around. Of course I used to get annoyed with pardew – I wanted him sacked after Brighton and Hull – but my reaction was to the ridiculous and constant moaning about him , even when we won. At least you have proved the point that I didn not feel Pardew was King – maybe you can explain that to Mr Tuff ?

  • 64 Mister Tuff // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:40 PM

    moanster – you say you do not rate King Percy – yet at nearly every opportunity you are on about him.
    You need to get the ferry across the sea – head to south London – go to Palace and share a bit of eel pie with the King.

  • 65 Mister Tuff // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:42 PM

    eel pie platoon……………………………………..OOT
    Wearers of Pearly King clothing………………OOT
    Chas n’ Dave fans…………………………………OOT

  • 66 Mister Tuff // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:43 PM

    Whoa – looks like Jib Jibberish is expecting a busy evening blogging – he’s already playing substitute Jane.

  • 67 Munster Mag // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:45 PM

    Rotunda, good point at 58. I think Carr is a bit like Fat Sam, he loves the prospect of boasting about finding bad uns and making them good uns. Thauvin to me is his most bizarre transfer, and I wonder like some about the role of player agencies in this and his regular use of the same player agency. I think Carr is still dining out on Cabaye and Tiote to be honest. I despise most of what Ashley has done to NUFC ( but I well remember the support he got on here for renaming the ground because it made such great commercial sense – yeah right ) but his biggest errors have been in the appointrments he has made. Jiminez anyone ?

  • 68 JamesToon // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:45 PM

    Players we need to get rid of asap:
    Coloccini
    Dummett
    Tiote
    Anita
    Thauvin
    Obertan
    Gouffran
    Marveaux
    Cisse

    We need to buy a new backbone/spine of experience leadership and quality in the team.

    And until January Steve needs to go with 4-3-3 and start coaching the players to work harder as a unit off the ball, press high up the pitch etc etc

    And if we don’t start consistently playing well and getting results then he needs to go

    I’d go with this against palace:
    Elliot
    Janmaat/Mbemba/Lascelles/Haidara
    Tiote or Anita
    Sissoko/De Jong/Wijnaldum/Pérez
    Mitrovic

  • 69 Munster Mag // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:46 PM

    Tuff, I lived in sarf london once. I aint in a hurry to do it again.

  • 70 Munster Mag // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:47 PM

    I’ve even been to Selhurts, along with God knows how many other places on the piss with you lot 🙂

  • 71 Tsunki // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:48 PM

    Munster it’s painful to have to explain in detail but Pardew had to go as first and foremost he epitomised the slip shod incompetence and happily represented it. He was rightly rounded on and had to go. Unfortunately he somehow managed to sidestep his puppetmasters and the indignant fanbase with his infamously jammy move. Next target rightly was Ashley and his cronies who all along were known to be the lynch pins behind this clubs malaise, contrary to your assertions I don’t think anyone was blindsided by their hatred of Pardew to the extent that they thought Ashley was beyond reproach. They just knew Ashley had to be sent the message that we weren’t fooled by his vassal by having him ousted. When Pardew went it exposed horribly the plan to muddle along had no backup when Carver was shoved out of the boot room into glaring daylight. Now we have the new, improved Pardew, SM, bravely battling with a much more diluted squad and the same useless toads running the shop. We weren’t fooled then, we won’t be fooled now. Forget telling us we were on the wrong track Munster, it won’t wash.

  • 72 yorkymag // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:49 PM

    Well it’s all been said utter utter rubbish
    But I like thousands of other witnessed the most disrespectful action by a footballer to one of the most loyal and knowledgable supporters in the world THE GALLOWGATE

    Thauvin the excuse of a footballer waving his arms around at the gallowgate to make noise was simply a measure of how low we a a club have fallen ,he simply has no class
    The same gallowgate that gave varrdy a standing ovation for a great achievement
    We have not a hope in hell while we have players that simply don’t get it we pay hundreds to watch you entertain us that’s why you get paid thousands
    Little shit

  • 73 Munster Mag // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:50 PM

    The thing that kills me, is that if we had appointed the Tinkerman, I would have hit the roof, because he ahs been a failure in so many places. But then he goes to little Leicester and will have them in the top 5 at the end of the season. I dont know, i just dont know …

  • 74 nearly // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:52 PM

    anth c

    if i was to say perth does mean anything to ya or kirkley

  • 75 BandB // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:54 PM

    We are not better than any of the teams above us.
    And we are not as good as one of the teams below us.
    We should offer thanks that Bournemouth have lost their goalscorers and must pray that they don’t find a way to turn their football, which is miles ahead of ours in skill and determination, into victories.
    Take away the travesty of the Bournemouth win and we would be where we should be in reality…tailed off by five points in a league of our own with two other clubs who have got away with taking the pee in this division for far too long and look to be about to get exactly what they have deserved.
    We will not get better. We will get worse.

  • 76 Tsunki // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:56 PM

    I think on relegation day we should turn up at the match in tuxedos.

  • 77 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:58 PM

    @Munster

    Thats what I was thinking if we were to get the Tinkerman and had done the exact same business as we did in the window we would probably be rock bottom

    Interestingly I think Flores would have been a great manager he started Atletico’s success which Simeone has carried on with but we would never have considered him I bet because he would have wanted to buy his own players

  • 78 manxpie // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:58 PM

    rotunda stop being so xenophobic!

  • 79 Tsunki // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:58 PM

    It doesn’t matter what Manager we get now, the Ashley Video was a complete crock, as advertised, he bought another year of season ticket and replica shirt sales is all. Ashley Out!

  • 80 Munster Mag // Nov 21, 2015 at 8:59 PM

    Tsunki, I had no issue with Pardew going or getting the boot. But blaming him for everything bar the fog on the tyne was the preserve of some on here. There was a bigger picture involving guys like Carr which was only acknowledged in recent times. The fact that we are now in a worse league position than when Mr Average ( below average ) left , despite spending 50m, shows what a messed up club we are, and that hanging the King ( it is a funny story re “I am the king” ) wasnt the focus guys on here needed, only part of it. Yet, the lynch mob screamed their screams , got their way, and dont seem better off for it.

  • 81 Tsunki // Nov 21, 2015 at 9:04 PM

    Munster, honestly, I think we’re almost arguing with each other by saying the same thing. Almost. But I differ on the fact Pardew had to go. He had to. He was the doorman of this rotten club. And we didn’t get our way, the jammy git managed to go of his own accord with his head held high like he’d done nothing wrong and had a successful track record.

  • 82 Jail for Ashley // Nov 21, 2015 at 9:04 PM

    jane,
    Why on earth would I be reveling in todays shambles, I’m a Newcastle United fan and I’m embarrassed, hurt and angry after today, embarrassed but it’s yet another three without rey hiding on our home turf and hurt and angry because if we do finally limp to 17th-12th the powers that be will be quietly content and we’ll have more of the same next year, when people like you realise that NUFC and Mike Ashley SD are two different entitities and that he has no sporting ambition for the former the better.

  • 83 Tsunki // Nov 21, 2015 at 9:05 PM

    And I do believe Ashley Out! Preceded PardewOut! By some years, so you’re dead wrong on that one.

  • 84 Tsunki // Nov 21, 2015 at 9:08 PM

    Yes ‘ jane’ who are these shameful fans who treacherously revel in our sorry state?

  • 85 manxpie // Nov 21, 2015 at 9:10 PM

    wats the bets then on pardew beating sunderland and us!!!within a week

    that can actually happen jesus christ!!

    tsunki you say that but wat has changed?

    its now mcclaren that gets stick infact so much so that you see the words “ive given him the chance”!

    so wat was the point of pardew going again?

  • 86 jimmysmith // Nov 21, 2015 at 9:14 PM

    I wonder if McC isn`t a bit too much of a softy. A reasonable guy. Good coach, but not equipped with the full skill set, to tackle such an “undoable” job. In particular, without the required toughness when needed. This is Newcastle, quite the basket case, after all.

  • 87 toon kk // Nov 21, 2015 at 9:22 PM

    The top and bottom of the “pardew era” at Newcastle was nearly everyone thought he was our downfall, most seemed to think once he was gone we would achieve great things.
    well tbh what do people expect from our squad? It lacks pace, quality in every position and the players are only here as a stepping stone.
    pardew signed up to be a yes man and did his best with the flops he had and had to justify MA cashing our best players.
    poor years of scouting, millions wasted has finally caught up with the club.
    Macca is fighting a loosing battle, especially with our players not giving a toss.

  • 88 lochinvar // Nov 21, 2015 at 9:23 PM

    JailforAshley@82
    Hurt sums it up.
    Players who don’t measure up such as Thauvin should be sent out to work at a Sports Dire store in south London on zero hours and see how some people have to live.

    I walked out today and feel like Forest Gump – think I’ll just keep going until Ashley has gone.

  • 89 yorkymag // Nov 21, 2015 at 9:34 PM

    How is it possible for mr complete waste of space Carr to watch thauvun and even in his most wildest dreams think it was worth a punt never mind a £14 m punt
    It simply beggars belief
    I too walked out today the first time ever,I am hurting as is my son
    But the players they d,ont give a dam

  • 90 JamesToon // Nov 21, 2015 at 9:51 PM

    Does anyone actually believe that Watford/Norwich have a better squad than us? If not, why are they doing better than us do you think?

  • 91 brklyngeordie // Nov 21, 2015 at 11:42 PM

    @JamesToon

    Have also considered that lineup as well but instead of Haidara give me Mbabu (and Colback instead of Tiote or Anita).

    Also agree w the deadwood Armstrong and Lascelles should have both been on this weak squad and pushed a few out.

    Who would we prefer Rodgers or Moyes i think Rodgers and if management is changed this time so does everything as far Charnley and Carr and transfer policy cause this club is on thin ice

  • 92 usmagpie // Nov 22, 2015 at 4:02 AM

    I just watched the interview on BBC with SM.
    I’m sorry I know its not good giving the manager a chance to build things etc. But honestly he needs to show some anger, he was talking about getting back on the training ground on Monday and start the fixing process. WTF why are they not on the training ground Sunday, after the Phucking load of crap I watched he should have walked in the dressing room and said ” Listen here you shower of Shite, no day off tomorrow get you Phucking Arses on the training ground at 8am sharp tomorrow you bunch of Phucking Pansies. Sir Bobby must be turning in his grave watching that shower of Shite. I don’t care if we go down against another team but when we go down against another team and show no Phucking heart then that drives me Phucking Nuts. SM stop hugging these lazy aholes and lets start losing your temper and getting crazy with them.




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