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Newcastle In A Bad Place With Woeful 2015 Record

8:51 am, Sunday, November 22nd, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 24 Comments

This year has been a terrible one for Newcastle United and it may be a coincidence but ever since Alan Pardew walked out we’ve been a disgrace as far as our results go this year.

OK – so it’s a coincidence.

John Carver was appointed in Alan’s place at the beginning fo the year and was woefully inadequate and after Steve McClaren was fired by Derby County in May Lee Charnley appointed him as the new Newcastle head coach and he’s had a terrible start at Newcastle.

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Steve McClaren and Claudio Ranieri yesterday

It’s very rare you get a bigger job after being fired in your last job.

Here are the records of the two head coaches this year with a cumulative record of 23 points from 32 league games and a goal difference of -29.

That would be 27 points over a 38 game season.

John Carver:

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Steve McClaren:

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We assume Lee Charnley is now running the club for Mike Ashley but what we are seeing is a failure at almost every level of the club and especially on the field.

What happened in the second half yesterday was unacceptable when out players didn’t seem to care less and it wasn’t a case of if Leicester were going to score another goal but when.

If they had wanted to they could have made the score a lot worse than 3-0.

Steve McClaren and the coaching staff have to take responsibility for another terrible display and this time it was in front of more than 50,000 fans.

The definition of coaching is what you can get out of the players available and the squad Steve McClaren has is a lot better than only being able to get 10 points in our of 13 league games.

There is some excellent coaching at Liverpool at the moment with Jurgen Klopp having a huge and immediate impact at Liverpool – and that’s who we play ion our next home game.


We fully expect Mike Ashley to give out big money to bring in some new players in January but the bigger question is does the club have good enough people running the club?

That’s a very good question after a calamitous year on Tyneside.

Tags: Coaching · Management · Newcastle News · Premier League

24 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 22, 2015 at 8:54 AM

    Still not calmed down from yesterday’s SHITE performance. John Anderson is right it is a sad place to be when the biggest cheer was for Vardy when he went off and I have never seen 50,000 fans become 10,000 at the most including 3,500 Leicester fans taking the piss out of us.
    The club stinks on and off the pitch.

    Sad to say but relegation maybe two divisions might get rid of the players, management and owners

    Maybe doing a Portsmouth in the end might not be a bad thing to cut out the disease that is spreading through the club, fans and the City.

  • 2 John Tudor // Nov 22, 2015 at 8:54 AM

    total collapse i asked for a coffee and got black tea ffs

  • 3 John Tudor // Nov 22, 2015 at 8:56 AM

    at least shite can be flushed down the shitter

  • 4 John Tudor // Nov 22, 2015 at 8:57 AM

    taxi for ashley maccess carr and alot of the SHITE players fcuk it send in a couple of buses

  • 5 Tsunki // Nov 22, 2015 at 8:57 AM

    You can send out as many messages and emails from the ‘team’ the ‘captain’ the ‘coach’ and the ‘ managing director’ ( They are all from the PR department) but reality doesn’t sugar coat or compromise. We are a cynically run sales and media business parasitically draining sporting tradition from a once great club. We are being strip mined until all the goodness has been sacked out – when the cash stops flowing, the carcass will be cast into a ditch.

  • 6 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 22, 2015 at 8:57 AM

    can’t see us getting 25 pts this season never mind 40 points for safety

  • 7 Tsunki // Nov 22, 2015 at 9:00 AM


    I believe we’ve all but run out of teams we can beat now haven’t we? We need a good January binge and a back half season Renaissance. Fat chance.

  • 8 Ron Knee // Nov 22, 2015 at 9:01 AM

    My dad used to send me the Football Pink back in the 77/78 season. Grim reading, but things feel even worse today.

  • 9 Tsunki // Nov 22, 2015 at 9:03 AM

    50,151 crowd though. That’s why Ashley let’s his roulette ball ride. If anyone think boycotts won’t send a message now they are off their heads with misplaced optimism.

  • 10 Bambams // Nov 22, 2015 at 9:03 AM

    I have calmed down but have a sore head….

    Where does Ash go from here ?

    He will not want his brand associated with a struggling team. Problem is he does not know how to run a football club, neither does Charnley or Moncur.

    Leaves us with Mac who cannot get these players ‘playing’ and our biggest problem is Carr.

    Carr has far too much say on who comes in under his scouting. The players are not good enough but do you leave the current set up to spend in January?

    Who decent would come to this club ?

    I mentioned last night on here there is too much wrong with the club and I can’t see it changing.

    We will be relegated next year.

  • 11 Tsunki // Nov 22, 2015 at 9:06 AM

    Ron it’s because back in the day that’s what we were with the resources available which wasn’t much. Today there is no need for such a pathetic showing when you are backed by a multi-billion sportswear firm and an owner with a personal fortune beyond belief who doesn’t even have to stick his hand in his pocket, the club earns the millions required to make it successful anyway.

  • 12 lesh // Nov 22, 2015 at 9:06 AM

    Surely Ashley must be talking to Moyes by now!

    Like many others, disappointment understates the feelings of many fans and McClaren’s failure to get the players fired-up to play then the end of then road must be nearing.

    Other newly recruited managers have got their players getting results and if Ashley wants to avoid relegation for a second time, he must get a manager in who has a proven Premiership record – no matter what the cost.l

  • 13 John Tudor // Nov 22, 2015 at 9:10 AM

    another fcuking shite performing has been manager
    not on my watch

  • 14 Tsunki // Nov 22, 2015 at 9:12 AM

    Bambams I explained last night, people are focusing on Carr, but its Carr/Charnley remit that’s the issue. Ashley wants money spent to be as far away from revenue as possible, only one criterion stops us from spending no money at all on players and thats the necessity to stay in the PL. Hence Charnley gives Carr a Fantasy Football budget and Carr does the best he can with it. Hence, treading water with mediocre players. The ‘coach’ is a patsy with the impossible job of trying to hit a bonus target by squeezing a decent set of performances out of the rubbish assortment he is given. The whole management system must go, directors and all.

  • 15 eaststandgeordie1982 // Nov 22, 2015 at 9:13 AM


    I hope he is talking to Rodgers ahead of moyes.

    How does dummett get ahead of mbabu it baffles me or even haidara. Full backs need changed next game mbabu on the right haidara on the left, janmaat and dummett will get raped at palace.

  • 16 Tsunki // Nov 22, 2015 at 9:14 AM

    Just to illustrate, I don’t think any of our current players would get into the 1998 team. Not one.

  • 17 Ron Knee // Nov 22, 2015 at 9:16 AM

    Tim Sherwood?

    Are you for or against boycotts at our virtual club?

  • 18 Tsunki // Nov 22, 2015 at 9:21 AM

    I’ve always been for. it’s just that timing that was crucial. It was no good the last few games of the season when we needed the support to survive. Ashley played his Joker by getting McLaren for the new season so it would have made us look fickle to protest without giving him space.

    I feel it’s time to start the boycott ball rolling, show Ashley that his ‘ Making our own luck’ video ( or please keep spending money video) has run out of plausibility. We are running up to the Xmas period at the wrong end of the table and no end in sight. I say the call for boycotts should start as soon as the January window ends, unless of course Ashley spends a fortune on world class players.

  • 19 Tsunki // Nov 22, 2015 at 9:23 AM

    Forget speculating over the next Manager, we will only get one who has been hired to accept the remit. That’s why McLaren will be here when we go down ” rebuilding”.

  • 20 Slank // Nov 22, 2015 at 9:27 AM

    The comparisons between Carver with McClaren and Pearson with Ranieri (and possibly between Sherwood and Garde too) would appear to suggest that it is far easier to maintain a winning attitude and momentum when changing managers than turning around a failing and defeatist team.

    Leicester were very impressive and their position in the league is fully justified. I hadn’t seen Vardy before and thought that all the praise was just media hype but I was wrong. He is very impressive.

    I wonder whether some of our anguish is that we wrongly perceive Leicester as a small club whereas we are often told that we are a big club and therefore assume that we should be more successful than some smaller clubs like Leicester, Stoke and Palace.

  • 21 lesh // Nov 22, 2015 at 9:27 AM

    Eastend…… Rodgers’ll be a bit pricey for Ashley’s liking – remember he was like a kid in a sweet-shop when wanting players.

    Ron Knee….. Tim Sherwood’s shown he’s not up to the Prem – as shown at Aston Villa.

    The bigger picture must surely show Ashley that Charnley and Carr are behind our plight – Ashley’s got to be looking at replacing them too, in the fullness of time.

  • 22 Ron Knee // Nov 22, 2015 at 9:29 AM


    It’s likely that Fatso will be forced to spend in January just to ensure survival (and continued revenue/brand exposure). But I don’t see the objective changing: mid-table mediocrity.

    If we don’t get relegated this season it’ll probably be the next.

  • 23 lochinvar // Nov 22, 2015 at 9:34 AM

    Bournemouth now after Obertron in the New Year to help ” resurrect his career” – which speaks volumes about how NUFC is perceived and run or not as the case might be.

    Looking at the League table apart from the points column check out goal difference for all the clubs. That really show which clubs are shite and how having a strong defence and goal creating midfield serving goal scoring forwards is the best tactic – deep in my sub conscious I recall the words ” wanting to win ” – has McLaren scrubbed that from the dictionary with his sideways tactics plan.

    Colo is mute on the pitch and does nothing to inspire anyone let alone the players around him.

    Just as well the Salvation Army come to the fore at Christmas – have they ever collected for such a hopeless case as NUFC ?

  • 24 asl123 // Nov 23, 2015 at 1:08 AM

    The problem we have since Cabaye left has never been taken care of. We don’t have creative playmaker or central midfielder in our 1st 11. Tiote and Anita? Oh man… Better put school boy at their position and we may see better result especially Anita, what is he doing? The only man that can do a bit job is Colback but is injury prone. De Jong seems hired with retirement scheme in his hands. People always mentioned get new striker and defender, if the strikers didn’t get the ball or assist, how can they score? We have plenty of great strikers! And defenders, if they were defending opponent amok for most of the time, how come they did not concede any goal eventually when the midfielders seem clueless in the mid park? Com’on. So, why not just give the young lads their moment to shine when so called 1st 11 just an empty can before winter’s window open especially central midfielder.

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