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Players Angry After Game – When It Counts For Nothing

2:50 pm, Tuesday, November 24th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 91 Comments

Moussa Sissoko has been interviewed by nufcTV and he has spoken of his anger  and the players’ anger after the game when we were basically taken apart by Leicester –  a side that was on 19 points and bottom of the league in early April.

Our question we would have is why were the players not angry during the game when something could have been done about the woeful and inept performance that was simply unacceptable and not good enough.

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Moussa Sissoko – shielding the ball on Saturday

This is what Moussa told nufcTV after the game:

“We are angry because we didn’t play well in this game.” “We lost every duel, every tackle and everything was not good enough.”

“The manager was angry and disappointed after the game.”

“We had played well for a few games, won our last match at Bournemouth and wanted to win this one, because three points would have helped us to go forward.”

“But we were not able to do that.” “It is important we learn from this game, train hard and go to Palace for the next game and do something there.”

It will take a  much-improved performance on Saturday to get anything out of the game at Crystal Palace – but Sunderland won 1-0 at Selhurst Park last night with a late goal from Jermain Defoe.

A win is what we’d love to see on Saturday, but that has to be a doubtful outcome for the game with Alan Pardew’s men.

Crystal Palace and Leicester City are just two of the teams who have left Newcastle behind this year.

Since the end of March last year we have played 59 league games and lost 33 of them (56% loss rate)  and won only 13 (22% win rate) – that’s how bad things have become at Newcastle in a short 20 months.

Comments welcome.

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91 responses so far ↓

  • 1 cyprus // Nov 24, 2015 at 2:51 PM

    you do know that our wages are about 8th. Our players aren’t exactly starving. We’re underperforming – big time.

    8cyprus // Nov 24, 2015 at 2:51 PM

    For instance,
    Vardy is on a very modest junior NUFC salary…

  • 2 cyprus // Nov 24, 2015 at 2:53 PM

    Good words Siss.

    But you know how many times by how many players coaches we’ve heard this, man?

  • 3 catchy in norway // Nov 24, 2015 at 2:58 PM

    Salary means nothing to modern footballers these days, all it is, is a personnel trophy for them to collect.

  • 4 catchy in norway // Nov 24, 2015 at 3:01 PM

    I hope that result has the right affect for the game v palace. P45’s interview after last night was contradictory as normal, 1 min they didn’t deserve anything the next he said they should have won on balance of play

  • 5 JAMSHA // Nov 24, 2015 at 3:09 PM


    i dnt think he would go at a big club to sit on the bench

  • 6 BandB // Nov 24, 2015 at 3:18 PM

    This club seems to believe that as long as it wins the PR battles everything will be alright.

    During the record losing streak last season. they said the idea of replacing Carver was unthinkable, and turned instead to a crisis management guru to explain on their behalf how everyone was working their socks and bad stuff wouldn’t be happening the following week, honest.

    I have no doubt at all this week that Charnley will be thinking “Slaughtered again. We need to re-double our efforts to get the basics right. Now then, get the players to mention the terrorism and push the idea that after 10 points from a possible 36 previously, Saturday was just a inexplicable blip.”

    I wish they’d put a fraction the effort into trying to sort out the product that they put into trying to explain why it isn’t up to standard.

    It’s the same story every lousy business and utility trots out to explain why it can’t do its basic job, despite being the business being a canny little earner.

  • 7 manxpie // Nov 24, 2015 at 3:20 PM

    Pretty sure i seen vardy was on £45 grand a week so pretty close to our top end actually was in the sun tho so make of that Wat ya will lol

  • 8 cyprus // Nov 24, 2015 at 3:20 PM

    The pic above is very indicative of NUFC when they get slaughtered. One player vs. 2-3, till he loses it. Why do the team mates let that happen? Why don’t they get involved in the skirmish to protect one of their own as he gets mauled? Even bisons do that.

  • 9 Rotonda heights // Nov 24, 2015 at 3:24 PM


    All very well saying if you don’t want to play go home. These guys are on huge money!!


    The likes of Butt, Barton, Owen, Saylor, Duff, Given etc didn’t keep us last time.

    Foreign players seem to be doing absolutely fine elsewhere. Too easy an excuse.

  • 10 cyprus // Nov 24, 2015 at 3:25 PM

    Leicester can’t compete with us on wages. They can on the field.

  • 11 Rotonda heights // Nov 24, 2015 at 3:29 PM

    CP have some great skilful and pacey players but somehow that is starting to get diluted. Poor old Puncheon seems to be the new Gouffran. Very few goals scored and slipping down the league almost weekly. Very lucky for CP they’ve got us next otherwise they would be well on the way to another of AP’s record losing streaks.

  • 12 BandB // Nov 24, 2015 at 3:31 PM

    That’s very true Cyprus. And it’s been happening for years.
    Just out of shot is one of our players standing with his hands on his hips, waiting for the ball with a moue on his face.
    Making a mental note to go creeping to the manager at half time about how Mr Selfish lost the ball.

  • 13 cyprus // Nov 24, 2015 at 3:34 PM

    It looks like players are taking care of their own hide… even when a player scores it’s more a personal than a team thing. It doesn’t feel that they are pulling together and in it together.

    There must be some upset people in there, those who have permanently been benched or are out of favour. As is normal of course… do they all feel that they have a chance to play if the starters play shxxx?

  • 14 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM

    Lets hope they got angry – because I was angry and let my feelings know at the end of the game. Hopefully things were said and a bloody good punch-up in the changing rooms.

  • 15 cyprus // Nov 24, 2015 at 3:39 PM

    B and B,
    That picture and a dozen others like it should be pinned up around the dressing room.

    I don’t know who’s responsible for team building, he needs to get cracking.

  • 16 manxpie // Nov 24, 2015 at 3:42 PM

    Nah Cyprus was just pointing out vardy wasn’t on small money for us to get him we’d have to double his probably, that’s why we go for players in lesser leagues the step up in wages for them seems massive where as prem proven players demand prem wages

  • 17 BandB // Nov 24, 2015 at 3:51 PM


    We should try to unsettle Vardy.
    He’d probably go on strike if he knew we were in for him.

  • 18 LGFUAD21 // Nov 24, 2015 at 3:52 PM

    Anybody ever been to a recruitment day. Where everyone is trying to get a leg up on another to stand out.

    That’s the problem with a recruitment policy of getting promising players in to prove themselves for better things.

    Only issue is few of them can actually cut it.

  • 19 Rotonda heights // Nov 24, 2015 at 3:58 PM

    So with Kemen and Abeid sold and Tiote and Colback both now injured SM turns back to the tried and failed Gouffran. This is a guy who was our national team coach. Go figure!

    Obviously De Jong and Aarons aren’t in SM’s plans either. I just wish SM wasn’t so predictable with AP’s disease of playing people out of position. Surely SM gets paid the big bucks to occasionally think outside the box just a tad.

    If Colo was converted to a sweeper behind Lascelles and MBabu and we played wing backs, we could push MBemba into midfield as an enforcer. Just a thought.

  • 20 Transfer Sage // Nov 24, 2015 at 3:59 PM


    I’m not sure on that. I think all players know that they can get a move if they play well at all clubs, not limited to us.

    For me the issue is we buy a selection of players to sell on, the better ones leave and we are left with what’s left, we don’t move them on, they just pile up and now we have a squad full of players who can’t cut it in the premier league.

    We have a coach who was sacked for under performing with Derby. Why on earth did we not move for a coach who was doing well, somebody with a modern approach to the game who could drive us forward.

    I know Klopp was never going to happen, total pipe dream, but we need a manager like Pochettino, Koeman, that level who can really progress us as a club, not just talk about it like McClaren.

  • 21 Transfer Sage // Nov 24, 2015 at 4:00 PM


    Just being pedantic….but you would be playing guys out of position which is something you just slated McClaren for.

    I know you point though, Gouffran clearly isn’t a centre mid but potentially other could be suited to a different position.

  • 22 JamesToon // Nov 24, 2015 at 4:04 PM

    I think it would be a good move to have mbemba and lascelles (he deserves a chance) then push colo to shore up centre mid in a 4-2-3-1. Does anyone know if haidara is fit as i’d play him over dummett

    Wijnaldum-De Jong-Perez

    Give sissoko the box to box role and coloccini as the anchor. Want to see both SDJ and lascelles play PLEASE NO GOUFFRAN

  • 23 jimiley // Nov 24, 2015 at 4:08 PM

    5 wins since February. Worst in the club’s history. And things are getting worse. The problem on the pitch is bad but the real problem is upstairs. Our owner is not moving on until we win something. A bloody immortal owner!!!! I shall have to console myself with the memories of 1969, the Robson years and best of all, the Keegan years. It will be a generation before we win anything and even you teenagers on here may never see us win the holy grail…the league title. I never thought I would go a whole lifetime and never win the league, never mind a domestic Cup.

  • 24 andrew84 // Nov 24, 2015 at 4:11 PM

    Heard it all before I’m afraid.

    Why weren’t the players angry after the first goal went in? Sick to death of hearing this bullsh*t after every crushing defeat.

    They’re insulting the intelligence of the fans who pay to turn up to watch this shower…

  • 25 Graeme // Nov 24, 2015 at 4:23 PM

    Collo is our Captain as well as being the highest paid player.

    If you are going to use him as a “Sweeper”, show some respect and let him start in the Platinum Club!!!

  • 26 toon kk // Nov 24, 2015 at 4:31 PM

    Without been funny, have fans ever actually thought what they’re doing? They turn up in their thousands knowing before they even leave their homes they will be paying to watch a sh.t team get shown how to play football. For all the dross thats been on show and still is; surely people want more? Its not acceptable so why put up with it?
    Why feed a problem. Personally I won’t renew my season ticket until there’s something worth paying too watch.

  • 27 Bambams // Nov 24, 2015 at 4:33 PM

    Cheers for that fella. I didn’t realise we were 8th top re wages.
    I just believe we could and should be targetting better players not wanting to risk another relegation battle as Ash said. I just believe the ‘best pound for pound players ‘ are great when you are flying high.
    The players must just struggle to play at SJP due to the slope ?

  • 28 Bambams // Nov 24, 2015 at 4:34 PM

    ? Was meant to be smiley face ….

  • 29 Jail for Ashley // Nov 24, 2015 at 4:35 PM

    I saw that the usual antagonist posted the other day that he would stick up for his club captain no matter what the other day simply because he was the club captain. What does that prove, loyalty or just plain pig headed, our club captain has never willingly gave an interview, has stated desire to leave and even wrote an open letter to his favourite team expressing this desire, he wrote more in that letter than we’d heard from him in seven years, he’s been deliberately sent off when the chips are down and has missed gawd knows how many derby games, the one he does turn up for he gives away a penalty and costs us the game, personally I think Collocini and his attitude are a symbol of what is wrong with the club.

  • 30 John Tudor // Nov 24, 2015 at 4:49 PM


  • 31 Tsunki // Nov 24, 2015 at 4:52 PM

    Jail I wouldn’t bother taking anything that Ray/jeff/jib says as anything more than a spouting from the brief lucidity a short term memory loss victim has. When I consider the way his posts trawl across the blog I picture a dog dragging it’s backside across the new carpet.

  • 32 John Tudor // Nov 24, 2015 at 4:53 PM

    i’ve just clicked on
    sissoko is the horse to bolt onto the cart
    aq fcukin carthorse
    begone waste of space

  • 33 Tsunki // Nov 24, 2015 at 4:55 PM

    This ain’t PR it’s just a pack of shoddy excuses to keep us at arms length. ” Sorry missus can’t get there today to put the roof on it’s raining” blah blah blah.

  • 34 Tsunki // Nov 24, 2015 at 4:57 PM

    Toon kk check Mike’s Small Print – the “entertainment” you’re paying for can be supplied by the opposing side. Everybody wins!

  • 35 toon kk // Nov 24, 2015 at 5:12 PM

    good point, tbf the club means so much to us all and it’s a case of next time we play we might just have a good game and win but unfortunately we’re let down time after time.

  • 36 Jib // Nov 24, 2015 at 5:21 PM


    “Come and have a go if you think you’re hard enough”

  • 37 banjax // Nov 24, 2015 at 5:29 PM

    Am I the only one who is puzzled by the verbal rubbish that seeps out of the Newcastle dressing room after every abysmal performance. We have the players beating their chests in determination to do better. We have McLaren who agrees performances are dire and ‘things’ are being ‘slowly turned around’. I’ve known Oil Tankers turned around quicker. Basically though, all this verbiage is garbage. Newcastle have big problems behind the scenes because McLaren and his team are unable to get to the bottom of what’s wrong with the players and why they are playing like third rate gutless players who just don’t want to play for the club. If I know what the problem is, along with every other supporter of the club, then why doesn’t the club. Why is the club waiting to change things and all the while we are running out of games to save the club from relegation. With £billions at stake next season, paying off the contracts of those staff is peanuts in comparison to the revenue on offer. I’m surprised Ashley is so reticent to act fast, I bet that if this was one of his outlets, the problems would have been sorted yesterday.

  • 38 SPRINGY // Nov 24, 2015 at 5:33 PM

    evening all
    vardy wont sign for us as much as i’d like to see him here…..if mbabu is fit he should be givin a start as he’s been a plus in the few games he played….maybe as cb along side mbemba or one of the full back positions push colo into dm….tbh the way things are wouldnt hurt to try something like this now when expectations over the next few games are very low

  • 39 JamesToon // Nov 24, 2015 at 5:35 PM

    Unconfirmed but a few whispers on Twitter that our coaches have had a bit of a scuffle, cathro not happy with mcclaren/Simpson/schoenmaker

  • 40 lochinvar // Nov 24, 2015 at 5:36 PM

    Tsunki@33/34 – it’s not even excuses it’s just a downright load of cobblers. They’re taking the Michael.

    “We are angry because we didn’t play well in this game.” “We lost every duel, every tackle and everything was not good enough.”

    and when asked what he did about it during the game Captain Colo was heard to say: “( silence is golden ) ”

    It’s clear that the players have decided to oust McLaren and I feel in my waters just the same as when Pardew and carver were around, empty.

    I used to tell colleagues down south that going to SJP is not just the game, it’s the people, the fans, the craich, the pies even – thet total whole body and soul immersing experience that supporting the toon is about.

    With Ashely in charge it’s about as lively as going to a seance ” is there anybody there” ?

  • 41 SPRINGY // Nov 24, 2015 at 5:36 PM

    james toon
    dont have twitter mate…whats the crack like?

  • 42 SPRINGY // Nov 24, 2015 at 5:40 PM

    anything on twitter probs just paper bollicks tbh.. but live in hope that something is changing for the better!lol

  • 43 welshgeordie9 // Nov 24, 2015 at 6:35 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie
    November 24, 2015
    You name three wins in two years. None of them was an easy win. I bet you and Jib are climate change deniers too.

    Win is still a win Blackley, besides three wins in two seasons is pretty good don’t you think.

  • 44 Premiership Manager // Nov 24, 2015 at 6:49 PM

    I watched City V Liverpool after we’d been totally outplayed in our last two matches. City made 22 passes in one move without losing the ball and then Liverpool made 17 passes in a counter attack without losing the ball.

    We can’t string 1/2 dozen passes together without giving the ball away and then resorting to hoof ball. What was Colo doing charging up the pitch on a break when he should have passed the ball and moved back into position, it seemed like it was every man for himself with no regard to building from the back, creating space and retaining possession.

    We are missing Colback badly, he’s a grafter and like Carrick at Utd, who goes under the radar and just gets things done without being flashy or giving the ball away cheaply.

    In the first few games MacClaren had the team working well, showing discipline and a semblance of improvement however no it’s heads down and here we go again.

    Perez, Mbemba, Colback, Sisoko and Janmaat are the only decent players we’ve bought. The wingers and other forwards have been a waste of time and money.

    We need a LB, CB, defensive midfielder and a CF in January and they need to be established EPL players in their prime who can compete to keep us up.

    We also need to get rid of Cisse, Tiote, de Jong, Obertan, Goufran, Williamson, Riviere and Marvaux, 8 should be first team players who are not up to the job.

    I hate to be negative but MacClaren has his work cut out because like Pardew his hands are tied when it comes to transfers while Carr picks up dross and the board stick to their recruitment policy.

    We need experienced established players with a few flair players, preferably British with pride and passion because when it comes to it they need to be able to walk onto and off the pitch with their heads held high knowing they’ve given 100% something which is very rare at Newcastle United today. We don’t ask for much just pride, passion and commitment with a touch of football thrown in, not the crap we’ve endured over the last two years and another relegation battle because the board cannot see the woods for the trees.

  • 45 Jail for Ashley // Nov 24, 2015 at 6:49 PM

    Historically we have a very poor record in London, there are normally five or six London clubs in the division, that is fifteen to eighteen games, we’ve won three !

  • 46 Jail for Ashley // Nov 24, 2015 at 6:51 PM

    two seasons, adjust the math !

  • 47 Online Guy // Nov 24, 2015 at 6:52 PM

    I looked at the players coming out of the tunnel ..on Saturday v Leicester…I was shocked and upset on seeing the faces of the Newcastle team ..

    I knew at that moment as my heart sank that we were beat before the ref blew the whistle to start the game

    The body language, and the faces , heads down , looking sheepish and scared, was transparent, and I was shocked to witness it

    These players are Scared of responsibility and playing at St’James Park.

    No Guts………wrong mentality. Scared.

  • 48 welshgeordie9 // Nov 24, 2015 at 6:54 PM


    Name me one team that’s beaten all the London teams over two seasons.

  • 49 welshgeordie9 // Nov 24, 2015 at 6:58 PM

    Or done well against London teams, not many teams would get 15 to 18 points of them.

  • 50 BandB // Nov 24, 2015 at 6:59 PM

    It’s depressing the way people have been browbeaten into being afraid to utter the mildest and most reasonable complaint about their lot for fear of being branded with “negativity.”
    “Negativity” is that nasty blighter that prevents people from being shorn like passive sheep.
    Buzzword of the David Brent’s of this world.
    It used to be called self-respect.

  • 51 Online Guy // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:01 PM

    Played off the Park by Bournemouth

    Does that tell you anything ?

    This is Newcastle United .. How far do we have to fall ?

  • 52 Jib // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:06 PM

    Oh dear
    Big loss at the bingo
    Now hitting the cooking sherry

  • 53 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:06 PM

    Don’t know if you heard BBC Radio Newcastle Sport tonight but reading between the lines, the Journo from the Mail infers there was a bust up amongst the players/players not happy

  • 54 BandB // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:07 PM

    Hello Jib

    Are you Dr Heckle or Mr Snide today?

  • 55 Jail for Ashley // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:07 PM

    Nobody, but that is not what has been pointed out !

  • 56 GeordieTwo // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:10 PM

    Won’t be on much today but enjoying the conversation. I’m not impressed by Sissoko’s statements. It’s all just more of the same – excuses. Pointless. Do it on the pitch lads or forget about it.

  • 57 welshgeordie9 // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:16 PM

    Jail, yes it was.

  • 58 Jib // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:16 PM

    Really there are not enough of us to browbeat you Neggers (Self Respecters)
    There’s only lil ole me , Welshie , and Ian (occasionally)

  • 59 welshgeordie9 // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:19 PM

    Anyway folks, let’s have a bet to see which manager gets the sack or leaves next between mcclaren and monk.

  • 60 anthc // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:23 PM

    Sissoko france intl doesn’t look bothered,
    Gini Dutch league player of year Dutch intl,
    Tiote ivory Coast intl,
    De Jong all coaches and rave about him,
    Janmaats Dutch intl
    Mbemba intl,
    Mitrovic intl,
    Cisse Senegal intl,
    Dummet Wales intl.
    We have more than our share of intls who on their day are good players so who is responsible for getting them to play and fight for everything? It’s mclarens job and he ain’t doing it. The players looked lost disinterested and off the pace as if they don’t want to play for him. I was hopeful mclaren could’ve been the dark horse but how badly mistaken was I. I can’t see us getting out of this and palace will stuff us at the weekend because we can’t handle what they have in abundance, pace. Plus pardumb will want one over us as will cabaye!

  • 61 Jail for Ashley // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:28 PM

    If you knew anything of the clubs history we have traditionally not done well in London in comparison to other away grounds, FACT

  • 62 Jail for Ashley // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:32 PM

    Monk will be lucky if he gets the assistants job at Penrhiwceiber Rangers after this stint !

  • 63 John Tudor // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:37 PM

    or Bridgewater Wings

  • 64 welshgeordie9 // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:40 PM

    So how many games is Ashley going to wait for him to step in if we don’t win the next couple of games.

  • 65 toon kk // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:42 PM

    you hit on a point in your post thats very true, and thats something we can’t handle and thats Pace. We play half decent against certain teams but put us up against pacey teams and we just can’t cope, our whole team turn into headless chickens.

  • 66 angelswithdirtyfaces // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:43 PM


    Where do you see points coming in the next 7 games ?
    Anybody else apart from Villa ?

    We could easily end up with 15 pts or less after 20 games.
    A run of wins is essential – even agin tough opposition.

  • 67 Jail for Ashley // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:44 PM

    First they have to have someone in mind and I think it’s pretty much common knowledge in football that it’s an impossible job with the restrictions in place at the club, they will struggle to get someone with the nous to pull us out of this mess unless there’s serious concessions from the fat controller.

  • 68 BandB // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:50 PM

    Well he didn’t step in when Carver taking us to within a whisker of relegation.
    Carver didn’t get the bullet for being a shocking coach.
    He got the bullet because he couldn’t say the script proppa.
    Steve always says the script proppa.
    When they saw Carver struggling they didn’t think “let’s fix the team.” They thought “let’s fix the message.”

  • 69 welshgeordie9 // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:52 PM


    The fixtures for us between now and Christmas is not good, I can’t see us winning any that includes home game against villa, once again this season we will be relying on other teams to get us out of trouble and that’s happening every season which is starting to get on my nerves.

  • 70 toon kk // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:52 PM

    Give our current squad two very quick quality wingers and at least one top quality defender and we’d see a vast improvement. Why all that money was wasted on Thauvin is beyond me.

  • 71 welshgeordie9 // Nov 24, 2015 at 7:57 PM

    If mcclaren does go before or just after Christmas, who’s going to come in.

  • 72 SPRINGY // Nov 24, 2015 at 8:02 PM

    villa are due a upsurge in form if the usual change of manager influence is as normal….and they were the only points i can see comin all the way thru till arsenal in jan….as for ashley steppin in?….he should do it now…at least it may give the players a kick up the arse to try and get some points which may in turn help get players in jan

  • 73 SPRINGY // Nov 24, 2015 at 8:04 PM

    bloody good question!…..that may be why ashley/charnley have’nt stepped in and got rid

  • 74 Jib // Nov 24, 2015 at 8:07 PM

    You need to reconcile yourself to the fact that McClaren is at least going to complete his current 3 year contract (it will probably be extended)
    We will not get relegated , no chance , and under SM eventually we will get a team to be proud of , I am sure of it .

  • 75 SPRINGY // Nov 24, 2015 at 8:13 PM

    i dont no where your confidence to say that comes from but would be willing to apologise and eat my words if it came true…..but i doubt he will be manager against arsenal in jan if he does’nt get a ruthless streak and starts kickin arse and try changing something….dont think he’s brave enough to do it tbh.

  • 76 welshgeordie9 // Nov 24, 2015 at 8:18 PM


    I hope mcclaren does turn things around mate, at the moment I’m not that confident, i don’t want to go through last season again, especially if goes to the last game.

  • 77 welshgeordie9 // Nov 24, 2015 at 8:20 PM

    Although Spider-Man last season, maybe colo could be our hero this season.

  • 78 John Tudor // Nov 24, 2015 at 8:21 PM

    soy sayeth Clark Rockefeller

  • 79 Ian Toon // Nov 24, 2015 at 8:43 PM

    BandB- The unpleasant message you left for me was one that surprised me because you clearly are not in a good place. Then I reflected on your” arrested development” 19th century language post to another blogger, of a few months ago; which is by far the most despicable I have read on here. What a hypocritical person! You do need to reflect.

    Of your post to me- football is not a perfect science and the differing judgements of individuals are just one of the things that make it interesting. Unless you’ve been well taught football can appear to be overwhelming – a dense mass of tactics, systems etc that coalesce into an impenetrable fog. And nobody wants to set out into a fog if they can help it. Let me provide a path through that fog. Quite simply involve Hubris when posting – personally being of a similar age I suspect enjoyed responding to his many and varied posts.

  • 80 hibbitt // Nov 24, 2015 at 8:47 PM

    jib get back under the the bridge……WUM

  • 81 BandB // Nov 24, 2015 at 8:52 PM

    Ashley: “I know you haven’t managed at this level John, but that’s not the issue. Can you speak fluent bulls*t?”
    Carver: “I’ll give it a go boss. I love this club, me.”
    Ashley: “Here’s the ‘I’m not one to make excuses’ script. It’s one of Alan’s old ones. You’ll see the excuses written underneath. But Alan used to come up with his own…….science” (smiles and shakes head in admiration.)
    Carver reads: “I’m not one to make excuses but…er…er…these players are all cr*p and the don’t want to play for us and they are trying to get the-sells sent off…….”
    Ashley: “Thanks John. I’ve got a phone call I want you to make, then you can go.”

    True story………

  • 82 hibbitt // Nov 24, 2015 at 8:52 PM

    oh god the tosspot ian’s here now another WUM….. if your father was a geordie he would be a shamed of the shit you spout whar dross will you spout to night ?????

  • 83 SPRINGY // Nov 24, 2015 at 8:55 PM

    just been looking at the next 8 games and the results we had against them last season in same games.
    palace draw
    liverpool win
    spurs lost
    villa win
    everton win
    west brom win
    arsenal lost
    man utd lost
    bit surprised at the results last season thought we lost more…will be interesting to see what results macca gets??

  • 84 Jib // Nov 24, 2015 at 9:03 PM

    You have to accept people may have differing views to you
    (By the way it’s Trolls that hide under the bridge not WUMs you pillock)

  • 85 Average_Contents // Nov 24, 2015 at 9:14 PM


    Again you gave me a chuckle.

    Then I became somewhat sad as realisation kicked in – that’s probably not far from the truth.

    Long live lizzy. Huzzah.

  • 86 toon kk // Nov 24, 2015 at 9:18 PM

    Pards had the most success with the pace of Aarons and Obertan on the wings, in our team last season. Certainly not our best players, (although I like Aarons as a player). But they gave us something we haven’t got at the moment, way of getting up the pitch quickly and attacking.

  • 87 headtheball // Nov 24, 2015 at 10:14 PM

    Methinks the worm is turning and FINALLY the natives are revolting.
    Long live the revolution

  • 88 BandB // Nov 24, 2015 at 10:35 PM


    I reckon there’s one last mutation in the virus yet.
    It needs to stay alive until the summer.

  • 89 jimmysmith // Nov 24, 2015 at 10:37 PM

    Losing Tiote was really significant. Not that he’s been playing particularly great, but he has been adding a real physical presence at DM that we need and he has been getting steadily up to speed. I think he is very important, because Anita, Colback and Widjnaldum don’t have enough menace to do that holding job and win the battle in front of the back four. If he’s out then I’d look at Mbemba in there as a stop gap, who has a similar physicality and also pace, despite not having the movement or distribution that comes with knowing the role.

  • 90 BandB // Nov 25, 2015 at 12:08 AM


    Isn’t this what comes of a robbing Peter to pay Paul mentality at the club?
    We can strengthen the midfield by making the attack weaker. We can strengthen the defence by making the midfield weaker.
    We won’t pay for a functioning defence, midfield and attack.
    Every manager since Ashley got hacked off with Sam’s wage bills has had this problem.

  • 91 Jail for Ashley // Nov 25, 2015 at 8:33 AM


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