Newcastle Must Not Lose At Crystal Palace


If ever Newcastle United needed a win it´s on Saturday at Crystal Palace when Steve McClaren will go head to head against former manager Alan Pardew.

Palace were surprisingly beaten 1-0 at Selhurst Park on Monday night by Sunderland, so let´s hope we can also get a win on Saturday.

But a defeat in this game will set alarm bells going off at St. James’ Park  – and if it doesn´t – it should.

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Yes – Steve McClaren is already under pressure

Before last Saturday we thought we were coming back with 7 points in four games when the season ¨started” after we were torn apart 6-1 at Man City and that was the end of a tough eight game start to the season that got us only 3 points – our worst start ever in the league.

Not exactly what we were expecting in the summer.

Steve McClaren said the season started against Norwich in the next game – and the 6-2 win seemed to put us on our way and in the game at Bournemouth we were completely out-played but luck was on our side in the amazing 1-0 win.

But then last Saturday we put in probably the worst display of the season in front of 50,000 Newcastle fans to lose 3-0 against Leicester City.

Let´s just say the performance was embarrassing to Newcastle fans everywhere.

It was a complete disgrace and the pressure is now on Steve  McClaren to turn the season around – and quickly too.

We have only 10 points from 13 games played even though we spent over £52M in the summer transfer window and it´s 3 points worse off than in our relegation season seven years ago.

McClaren has to start turning things around and show he´s capable of getting results at Newcastle before we get too mired in a relegation battle.

Otherwise, this will be the third season in four we will be fighting against relegation, and if that happens it shows the way the club is being run is simply not working – and it has to change.

There´s something wrong somewhere.

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71 comments so far

  • Ron Knee

    Nov 25, 2015 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #1

    “Must not lose” – but we probably will.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Nov 25, 2015 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #2

    Ron…what do you think will happen if we loose?

    …Nothing right!

    Imagine knowing what ever you do there will be no consequences (other than we will be a Championship team soon 😉 )

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  • Ron Knee

    Nov 25, 2015 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #3

    jesper
    I’d like a job like that!

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Nov 25, 2015 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #4

    …but who’s counting 😉

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Nov 25, 2015 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #5

    Ron…I know mate 😉

    That’s why Pardew wouldn’t leave (untill a better job presented itself) and that’s why I cannot see McClaren walking!

    Why would he. It doesn’t get any better than this!

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  • Ron Knee

    Nov 25, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #6

    jesper

    Percy was as tough as old boots. I think McClaren may be more fragile.

    And he said: ‘Judge me after, 10, 12, 14 games, etc.’ How long can he keep going?

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Nov 25, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #7

    It looks as if Makro and Costco have lost some of the dressing room. They’re certainly not inspiring me with any confidence that they know what they’re doing or can bring improvement to an underperforming team. Add to that the fact that the inside track confirms this as well as cliques in the dressing room. Graham Carr has a lot to answer for. But the buck stops at Ashley’s door.

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  • hibbitt

    Nov 25, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #8

    any one know whats happened to paul simpson ??

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  • croftus5678

    Nov 25, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #9

    the difference between ourselves and others is not tactics or quality or organisation imo as we beat a fair few on that front but its the determination/workrate and motivation.

    macca is a great coach and he has improved us in organisation / getting better quality signings / our loaning out of youngsters to the right places at the right times and i can not fault him for our injury front (but tbf we get them every season no matter who’s manager)

    i’m still worried he’s not a motivator though as the players dont seem to look bothered in a lot of games.

    perez is prob the only player who constantly tries with mbemba close behind the rest are very good players when they feel like it.

    we need a passionate leader who does not like loosing (a sailor with a brain and talent) it’s where we miss nolan the most imo.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Nov 25, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #10

    Croftus
    If Makro is a great coach that is yet to be translated into performances and he’s had a good few months now. No motivation from players tends to indicate the players aren’t buying into the manager and his tactics.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Nov 25, 2015 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #11

    Makro needed to sort out the defence. What did he do? Gave Colo the Clown a new contract. No wonder some of the players are despondent seeing their best efforts undermined week after week by a crap defence. And what does Makro do? Blows smoke up the captain’s arse.

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  • sparky55

    Nov 25, 2015 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #12

    I guess it’s alright during training sessions to play possession football and it may look great from the sidelines on the training pitch, but the quality and passion of our squad is way below what the first team squad will ever face on a saturday…they’ll get closed down quicker, there’ll be more dirty tactics, more thunderous tackles, less space, less time and better players on the opposition cutting off passes by swarming the man on the ball.

    …and I guess this is why P45 ended up playing the way he did…he knew our overall quality was not good enough to play possession football and deploying out and out wingers that couldn’t defend once they lost the ball was in 9 times out of 10 resulting in “played well but lost” post match interview.

    SM needs to find a way of not losing then building on that to winning more than we draw rather than trying to play possession football with players that aren’t up to the job.

    The squad is what it is…it’s not great by any stretch of the imagination but any coach worth his salt should be able to find a way to get them to get results…ugly or otherwise.

    …and the starting place to stop letting in so many goals is to drop Colocinni and find a better partnership that sits just in front of the back four.

    I would put sissoko in there…he played in that position in France for 5 years solid before he came to us so why not give it a try?

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  • banjax

    Nov 25, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #13

    ‘Newcastle must not lose at Crystal Palace’.. This was like last week when Newcastle were mooted by pundits and press to be certain winners against Leicester after the international break. We all know how that went. Fact is Newcastle will lose this weekend at CP so what then ? Who is going to take the decisive decisions just like Liverpool did ? Newcastle United are in crisis and there has been no improvement in results for two years as the stats prove. So what miracle is going to happen that Liverpool couldn’t wait for – who knows. But one thing is for sure based on the gutless performances, McLaren and his team are not turning things around quickly enough which would suggest they are not going to either. Here’s to the Championship folks !

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Nov 25, 2015 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #14

    The club has undermined its own supporters by breaking up the singing areas. Doing the exact opposite of what an ambitious club would do. It simply beggars belief. And then it doesn’t want to re-visit the past to learn from its mistakes and shuts down members of the fans forum who have brought it up. The fan members then piss off. Charnley’s getting his come uppance now. I hope he’s feeling the heat at both ends.

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  • croftus5678

    Nov 25, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #15

    @12 sparky

    i agree.

    sissoko’s strength was his defensive work ! and at our club he’s now one of our best offensive threats !!! just goes to show how backwards our club is tbh.

    stick him in a toure role lets see if he can juggle attack and defence in the same game both him and wijnaldum should be able to do that and if so it will let the likes of siem be able to create some chances for mitro/perez/cisse

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Nov 25, 2015 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #16

    Charnley has to resign. He ignored the fans, most of whom didn’t want Makro. The owner then needs to find some inspiration in appointing his successor.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Nov 25, 2015 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #17

    Given that Charnley ignored the fans on the appointment of the manager, he can’t sack Makro without resigning himself.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Nov 25, 2015 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #18

    Charnley is like a cock pheasant with a lorry bearing down on him. He doesn’t know whether to run or fly and does neither.

    More money for Graham Carr to waste in January. More time for Makro to waste as the Championship clock counts down. More fans disappearing with only the Trapdoor Cup to look forward to.

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  • Sav

    Nov 25, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #19

    I know fans are generally supposed to be optimists. It is the nature of what we are. But I can already hear Macca’s post-Palace press conference and the usual ‘we’ll just work harder’ mantra (which clearly isn’t happening on matchdays) being trotted out. The fragility of our squad is exposed again by our mysterious perennial injury record. To think we added 3 first team players in summer yet still seem to have so few options to change things around.

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  • Wayayman

    Nov 25, 2015 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #20

    Another ‘must not lose’ game for us then? Another ‘we’ll work hard to put this right’ from the manager, another ‘we’re angry/disappointed/embarrassed from *insert player name here*

    I’m more than a little pee’d off by all this talk and not enough action. Only at Newcastle would we have a captain who is almost mute both on and off the pitch. Only at Newcastle would we have a billionaire owner who is as tight as a Nun’s chuff. Only at Newcastle would we have 50,000 + fans turn up to see players not even going through the motions week-in, week-out except for a smattering of decent performances against bigger opposition where it looks like some players are playing for moves.

    And on the Oba Martins link. 31 years old? I think we was older than that when he signed for us donkeys years ago. He makes Mbemba look like a baby in comparison.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Nov 25, 2015 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #21

    sav

    doesn’t help selling abeid and kemen, alienating aarons and making Colo captain.

    SM may have been , may be still is a good coach, but watching his drills my under 12’s do more complex pass and move excercises than he seems to.

    Maybe time has caught up with SM, but he does smack desperately of yesterday’s man, if he was ever even really that.

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  • SPRINGY

    Nov 25, 2015 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #22

    didnt sissoko play cm with the lad who went to spurs capoue or something and he was the dm and sissoko was the more attacking midfielder….maybe playing colo with sissoko is worth a try as i cant see macca havin the bottle to drop colo so a team like this maybe…
    ———————————-elliott———————————
    janmaat———mbemba————–lascelle———–mbabu
    thauvin————–sissoko———-colo—————–gini
    ———————-perez—————-mitro———————-
    or
    ——————————-elliott——————————–
    janmaat———–mbemba——lascelle———–mbabu
    ——————–sissoko————colo———————-
    perez————————–sdj—————————gini
    ——————————-mitro——————————-
    not a fan of 4231 but would get more of the supposed better players on the pitch

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  • Wayayman

    Nov 25, 2015 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #23

    On the training drills, does anyone know any details about the supposed problem Cathro and Mac had after the first few games of the season? Someone on here mentioned it a while back and I wonder if there’s more to it than we know as Cathro really doesnt look to have had much influence recently on the style of play or tactics. We started off playing a decent, high pressing game, and even taking short goal kicks, building play up patiently. It’s gone out of the window now and looks more and more like confused old-school coaching a la Maclaren.

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  • Ron Knee

    Nov 25, 2015 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #24

    hibbitt

    Have you heard something about Simpson?

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  • Wayayman

    Nov 25, 2015 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #25

    Am I missing something about Anita getting injured? Why else are people dropping him from the line up? He’s the only MF’er who looked like he actually was trying at the weekend, as he does most weeks. He’s a great little player and massively under rated. He doesnt do eye catching stuff the way he’s deployed at the moment but he is the only one who looks to have a set of cojones in there. Saturday he had to pull out of that tackle against Vardy in the second half as he was already on a yellow. Seems like a lot are holding that against him. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

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  • hibbitt

    Nov 25, 2015 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #26

    ron just what was said on here last night no idea were its come from

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  • Ron Knee

    Nov 25, 2015 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #27

    hibbitt
    Not exactly one big happy family at SJP!

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  • BandB

    Nov 25, 2015 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #28

    Norwich, Bournemouth, Sunderland and Aston Villa will all be struggling for points in December, unless one of them hits some form.
    The bottom is likely to be as-you-were by New Year, though a gap might have opened up between these five and the rest.
    As few as five points from our next six games, and we could actually be climbing, and hopes will rise that we’ve turned a corner in a few weeks time.

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  • hibbitt

    Nov 25, 2015 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #29

    ron… not even a family anymore never mind a happy one

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  • Jib

    Nov 25, 2015 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #30

    Monday night
    Paul Simpson, McClaren’s assistant, was at a rain-lashed Whitley Park to watch the 29-year-old Yoan Gouffran play the full 90 minutes in a deeper role.
    Newcastle, captained by Siem de Jong, were held to a goalless draw on a sodden pitch.

    shieldsgazette

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  • BandB

    Nov 25, 2015 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #31

    I’m far less certain we’ll get beaten by Palace than I was by Leicester.
    Pardew will be hoping we attack because he knows full well the gaps that creates. I think Steve will park the bus and hope for a Bournemouth repeat.
    Which might be the best tactic.

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  • SPRINGY

    Nov 25, 2015 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #32

    wayayman
    im not a hater of anita,he’s a little lightweight but a decent and he did ok at weekend but he seems the the only player that macca is willing to drop unfortunately…..so i was just tryin to make the best out of a bad situation with the players available as a change somehow somewhere is needed

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  • firebug666

    Nov 25, 2015 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #33

    It’s never easy to fathom what the club are doing, are they interviewing candidates for the head coach position? Maybe they are, but that does not mean we will be rid of McClaren, as he is a board member so could be moved upstairs on a permanent basis, maybe in a DOF role.

    We know from experience that protests against the Manager / Head Coach doesn’t work, the club simply ignore the fury and shouting.

    We could protest against the board, but again for the most part the fans are just ignored and fed lip service full of empty promises.

    Even targeting Ashley has limited results as his skin is thicker than an elephants.

    Having seen what goes on with Rangers, and Newcastle where Ashley is concerned is that he only reacts when SD come under attack from protesters, just as soon as his flagship is assaulted Ashley is on the case, and that is the only way to get the man’s attention.

    So what I am thinking is that if any protests are planned against the board for the shambles they have produced for us these past years, they should include protests against SD….. Just to make sure Mike understands we are serious.

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  • SPRINGY

    Nov 25, 2015 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #34

    protesting the coach/manager does’nt bother the club it s the results….if macca does’nt man up then if we lose,losing big is the only thing the club will take notice off….not nice to say it as i never want to see newcastle lose but if they get beat then gettin beat by a few goals cant be papered over….im not a macca hater… if he turns things round by growing a pair and droppin players, changin things whatever …good……but cant see it happening and times running out

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  • Jib

    Nov 25, 2015 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #35

    Hey everyone !
    NUFC have played shite two games in a row.
    Let’s talk protests again

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  • SPRINGY

    Nov 25, 2015 at 12:39 PM

    Comment #36

    jib
    its a waste of time protesting…they have never listened….pardew,carter…. i just want an reaction by the players and more importantly the head coach….he’s looking useless which he cant like but he’s the only one who can sort it or move on

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  • Lindisfarne

    Nov 25, 2015 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #37

    Hey everyone!
    NUFC have played well in two games all season.
    Lets talk b#ll#cks

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  • anthc

    Nov 25, 2015 at 12:42 PM

    Comment #38

    We will lose against palace no doubt. There pace will torture us, Dummet and janmaat need to be on their a game.
    Anita doesn’t do it it for me. He was awful against Bournemouth (as was the rest I accept) and although started off okay against Leicester but then went downhill dramatically. He nearly repeated that terrible back pass he did at Bournemouth and done a few wayward passes.
    Mclaren needs to pull his head out of his backside and sort this mess out or fans will be on his case sooner rather than later.

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  • SPRINGY

    Nov 25, 2015 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #39

    anth
    agreed about macca mate

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  • SPRINGY

    Nov 25, 2015 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #40

    and the palace result

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