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Palace Could Win By Silly Score If Newcastle Don´t Turn Up

12:01 am, Friday, November 27th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 29 Comments

Paul Merson predicted a 2-2 draw in last Saturday’s game against Leicester City and it didn´t turn out  to be anything that close.

Newcastle were basically taken to the cleaners by Leicester City and we were easily beaten 3-0 and it could have been a lot worse if Leicester had wanted to run up the score.

In five words – Newcastle were pathetic and embarrassing.

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Paul Merson – Palace could win by a silly score

Paul Merson has since blasted the Newcastle players for that insipid and abysmal display and he thinks that if Newcastle can be solid from the start on Saturday they could even get a win – just like Sunderland did on Monday night.

But if they don´t turn up and play like they did on Saturday well – it could be a silly score that Crystal Palace win the game by.

This is what Paul Merson said to Sky Sports:

“Newcastle would rather be playing Palace at Selhurst than at St James’, I think they can go and sit 10 behind the ball here.”

“But with everything that is going on at the moment, a bust-up between some of the players and Steve McClaren, I want to see a reaction from the players on Saturday.”

“If he has lost the players, they will get beat here easily. If he has lost them, he’s in a lot of trouble. In this day and age, the players always win.”

“Sunderland went to Palace and did a job, I thought they were quite comfortable.”

“Newcastle could do that but this is one of those predictions where I would like to tell you what the score will be, after seeing the first 10 minutes.”

“If Newcastle dig in from the off, defend as a team, they have a chance. But if they don’t, and play anything like they did against Leicester, this could be a silly score.”

We hope it´s not a silly score and big win for Palace  because our next game is against Liverpool at home.

And Liverpool under Jurgen Klopp are starting to overpower teams – as they did at the Etihad Stadium last weekend when they (easily) won 4-1 against the best team money can buy – Manchester City.

And the Manchester City players turned up for that game – they were just overwhelmed by a powerful Liverpool performance.

How Newcastle can hold this new Liverpool side we have no idea.

But first things first – we need to hold Crystal Palace on Saturday afternoon – and get something out of the game.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Coaching · Management · Newcastle News · Prediction · Premier League · Pundit




29 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Blofal // Nov 27, 2015 at 12:42 AM

    We need to ditch the 4-4-2. Gini gets lost playing out left (Norwich being the exception) and can’t fit anywhere else in that formation. He is not a defensive mid and you require 2 of them in that formation. The only one we have is Anita who is a squad player at best.

    The Perez/Mitro partnership hasn’t really produced in the last couple of games. We were lucky that the one link up they had at Bournemouth resulted in a score.

    I still maintain Perez is an attacking midfielder.. not a CF. He is a tenacious tackler and provides a lot of penetration going forward. Riviere is our best holding stiker. When he is fit we should play him alone up front with Perez, Gini and De Jong behind him. LB is a problem as Dummett has been skinned the last few games. Mbabu is a RB but did well against Chelsea but he is young. Sissoko needs to show he is a box to box which is what we bought him for. If not we need to sell him. Playing out right with limited defensive responsibilities is probably the easiest position on the ground to play.

    ———————Elliot
    Janmaat – Mbemba – Coloccini – Dummett
    —————Sissoko – Anita
    —–De Jong—-Wijnaldum—–Perez
    ———————Riviere

  • 2 jimmysmith // Nov 27, 2015 at 12:56 AM

    Well, the club is transitioning its focus off the bottom line and looking to put more of its assets on the pitch, if they are to be believed. I’d imagine a number of players recognise their time at the club is now running out. Mitro, Sissoko and Collo would be players who McC would not see in that way, but as regulars who he would need to be leaders through this period of change, I imagine. And despite being earmarked as longer haul players, they still have their doubts about where we are headed, and how we are going to get there, and whether they really want to be on board.

  • 3 expatmag // Nov 27, 2015 at 5:02 AM

    Welsh

    From the last thread re: Shelvey

    I dont believe Swansea would let him go and as we are no longer classified as a top team, in my opinion, he would have better options than us, were he made available which is doubtful

  • 4 expatmag // Nov 27, 2015 at 5:04 AM

    Blo

    Who is this bloke Riviere?

    Is it a french beach?

  • 5 jimmysmith // Nov 27, 2015 at 5:54 AM

    “In five words – Newcastle were pathetic and embarrassing.”

    Ah Ok, in five words, I thought Wor Al had said a five letter word was doing the rounds to describe the performance. I couldn’t imagine what it might have been. The best I could think of was “humpty”. Not very dramatic.

  • 6 jimmysmith // Nov 27, 2015 at 5:55 AM

    ….and that’s six.

  • 7 Ron Knee // Nov 27, 2015 at 5:57 AM

    Morning jesper

    From The Guardian article: “Ian Cathro’s relationship with certain players also believed to be strained …”

    I wonder what that’s about.

  • 8 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Nov 27, 2015 at 6:05 AM

    Morning Ron…do you believe the gossip about Cathro and McClaren having a fall out or a big disagreement as well?

    …maybe something is going on and the news media are just all speculating? Would explain alot…

    …and yeah I wonder to mate 😉

  • 9 Ron Knee // Nov 27, 2015 at 6:09 AM

    jesper

    Cathro’s had a pretty low profile with the media since he’s been here. Did McClaren appoint him? Maybe not.

  • 10 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Nov 27, 2015 at 6:17 AM

    Ron…that’s a good question. Maybe Cathro is Charmless / Carrs guy in this charade?

    …should everything go wrong

  • 11 Lilongwe Geordie // Nov 27, 2015 at 6:18 AM

    Jesper,
    From what I have been told by a A license coach from Scotland who is friends with Cathro there was no falling out between Cathro and McClaren as such. Cathro had a falling out with Schoenmaker and Simpson, and McClaren sided with those two. It had all been resolved though allegedly, and that would seem to tie in with Cathro being back by McClarens side on match days. There was a period, although I didn’t really notice until after I had been told this, that Cathro wasn’t involved in any touchline discussions.

    As for Cathro falling out with players, I find that fairly easy to believe. Cathro has, in the past, worked on high pressing, high energy and high work rate from the players higher up the pitch to deny space, delay attacks and to make play predictable. We have a group of players who would struggle to press buttons on a remote for themselves.

  • 12 John Tudor // Nov 27, 2015 at 6:19 AM

    and in a nutshell
    you reap what you sow

  • 13 Ron Knee // Nov 27, 2015 at 6:23 AM

    Lilongwe

    So was Cathro recruited by Charmless/Carr?

  • 14 Lilongwe Geordie // Nov 27, 2015 at 6:28 AM

    Ron,
    Can’t answer that I’m afraid. I could ask, but I doubt I’d get a straight answer.

    I doubt it though. Charnley wouldn’t have known who he was until he got the job I’d imagine. Carr could have had an input, but given he and McClaren are supposedly quite close, and taking into account the other staff brought in I’d say McClaren was given a free reign on staff, within a budget.

  • 15 Ron Knee // Nov 27, 2015 at 6:32 AM

    Lilongwe

    Thanks. So it’s highly likely McClaren approved the appointment.

  • 16 Lilongwe Geordie // Nov 27, 2015 at 6:41 AM

    Ron,
    I’d imagine so. Cathro resigned from Valencia the day after McClaren was confirmed in the job, give or take a day from memory, and then joined us a couple of weeks later (again apologies if timeline is a few days out). I think it will have been a McClaren influenced appointment.

  • 17 cyprus // Nov 27, 2015 at 7:07 AM

    A silly score? Versus Palace?!
    Get real man. If we turn up, we beat them. I know, I know: IF we turn up.

    Pardew couldn’t do it, we still can’t: Play a consistent level of football, good or bad. One week we’re sxxxe, the next we’re very good.

    Palace have 2-3 outstanding players, we do too. We should comfortably compete with them. Who am I worried about? Their fast players vs. our slow defenders, bar Mbemba. I’m beginning to think our FB’s are the biggest culprits. Drop them, try haidara and the other guy.

    Key players: Mitro, siss, Wini. Especially the latter has gone from outstanding to terrible, not sure why.

  • 18 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Nov 27, 2015 at 7:13 AM

    Morning Lilongwe…thanks for clearing that up mate!

  • 19 Lilongwe Geordie // Nov 27, 2015 at 7:21 AM

    Cyprus,
    Agreed, a silly score is a silly prediction. Palace have only scored one more goal than us all season. Cabaye is their top scorer, and I reckon we have probably scored more from open play then them.

    Cabaye will dominate the midfield, no matter who we play, Tiote is probably the only one with the bollocks to go into a 50 50 with Cabaye, and he is out. So we need to limit the space he can play into. Frustrate him by having depth and being compact. Both fairly simple things to implement on the training ground.

    Bolasie is the only good wide player they have, Zaha and Puncheon are far easier to nullify. Centre forwards, Conor Wickham? We should have him on our back pocket. Don’t give away stupid fouls in and around the area and they are easily shut out.

    They are predictable, hopefully the coaches have realised that and worked on ways of limiting the effectiveness Bolasie and Cabaye have.

  • 20 cyprus // Nov 27, 2015 at 7:25 AM

    Steve and kid,
    What you doing? Squabbling? Just watch the games dudes: Teams put full pressure on individual players they have earmarked: Mitro, Perez, Sissoko, Wini, our game changers. When they have the ball, and get surrounded, they need at least one short and one decent long option to pass to, ok? OK.

    Defensively, they target Janm who is too slow and does not defend. Drop or protect him – although this is what the CBs have been doing, even Sissoko, who doesn’t like that role either it seems.

    And, Black, get to work (whatever your work is supposed to be)

  • 21 cyprus // Nov 27, 2015 at 7:30 AM

    Lil,
    Good points, not sure I agree re Cabaye. His tackling reminds me of Butt, committed but all wrong. Oftentimes at NUFC he was outclassed by other MFs, ended up an observer. He could easily get bullied by our MF, unlike Puncheon. in any case, we are as strong there. Cabs has scored a few pens, hence the goals.

    Don’t get me wrong. He’s very good, just overrated 🙂

  • 22 Lilongwe Geordie // Nov 27, 2015 at 7:37 AM

    Cyprus,
    He is the top ball winner in the Prem this season through interceptions and tackles. He is clearly doing something right! Last time I checked, a few weeks ago now, he had won the ball more than our entire starting midfield.

    He would walk into our team. He occasionally ended up an observer, maybe but our current midfield are observers most weeks. Who would bully him? Anita? Sissoko? De Jong? Gini? Behave.

  • 23 geordieboy83 // Nov 27, 2015 at 7:42 AM

    I genuinely believe we are 4 players away from transforming the team. I do think it’s important to start trying players in there strongest positions.
    Football manager time I know but here’s the team i would like to see.

    Darlow
    Janmat. Mbemba. Dawson. Willems
    Shelvey. Sissoko
    Wijnaldum. De. Jong. Perez
    Mitrovic

    Other possibilities
    Matip/dawson
    Rodriguez/willems
    Xhaka/shelvey

    I wouldn’t mind seeing young byram brought in also.

    I liken to Perez to a David silva type player, and if he we can stop him from shooting all the time and actually play some passes he could be a complete player. And de Jong is sheer class unfortunately we ain’t seen it yet

  • 24 cyprus // Nov 27, 2015 at 7:47 AM

    You behave Lil mate 🙂

    Wasn’t aware of his amazing stats, but I’ll accept them mate. With him in my team we were just as bad just as often. I was never convinced, he’s good but not better than ours. Selective perception (both you and me) is an amazing thing.

    I guess we’ll disagree here. I hope I’m proven right, only so that we win.

    I know we disagree on some things (e.g. HBA, Siss crap, Cabs god), but it’s ok. It’s football.

  • 25 martoon // Nov 27, 2015 at 7:50 AM

    One of the constant criticisms of Pardew on here was calling him a lapdog. Well it sounds like McClaren has exploded telling some of the players some home truths and wanting the board to change it’s policy on recruitment. If true surely McClaren has to be given some credit for this although at the end of the day it is the results that count.

  • 26 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 27, 2015 at 7:51 AM

    Instead of sitting on the fence watching our club degenerate in a squabbling bunch of kids. ashley should come in and either sack McLaren if he is not going to stand by him and the transfers he wants.
    Or sack Charmless and Carr who seem to be running the club for him.

    As if it stays the way we are we are certainties for relegation.

    Or selling up which I can’t see him doing.

    Me I would get rid of Charmless and Carr and let Mclaren buy who he wants/needs to get us out of this mess.
    Must be Shite working with players you do not want!!!!!!

  • 27 lochinvar // Nov 27, 2015 at 7:52 AM

    It’s called Hobson’s choice ( don’t know why , must Google that )

    If McLaren drops Colo, changes the team and gets a performance , even a draw, yet alone a win he’s still got a job.

    If McLaren doesn’t change the team, fails to get a performance and looses with a shabby turn out then he’s gone and the players are in control.

    Notice Keegan has now popped up in the Daily Mirror with some opinions – do you think he’s wanting back into the cauldron ?

  • 28 martoon // Nov 27, 2015 at 8:10 AM

    I notice there are a few NUFC ‘Christmas Puddings’ in this article
    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/34932428

  • 29 LGFUAD21 // Nov 27, 2015 at 8:20 AM

    Blofal up top.

    Maybe switch rivi and de Jong around. De Jong cannot play in the wing. Rivi did for Monaco at times.

    We need a 3 man midfield as we are being dominated.

    —————-Elliot
    ——Mbemba colo dummet
    Janmaat————————mbabu/haidara
    ——————Anita—————————-
    ———–moussa——Gini———————-
    ——————–Perez/de Jong
    ——————-mitro/de Jong

    May be worth a try when players available.

    Janmaat is our width. Keep moussa and Gini in their best positions while countering their defensive responsibilities.

    De Jong actually has a decent strike rate when he has been fit. Must have the best goals per min ratio when you factor out that Gini scored four against Norwich. At worst just let him have a pop from range as he does have that In his locker.




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