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Newcastle Crisis But No Knee-Jerk Reaction – In Fact No Action

5:41 pm, Saturday, November 28th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 92 Comments

The last two displays by Newcastle are close to being two of the worst performances we have seen from a Newcastle side in a long long time – and after all the promises last week from the players about how they were going to be better and fight and all that great stuff – it was as bad as at Leicester  City and a worse result.

But if you are expecting some decisive action from Lee Charnley and company who run the club from the top – you may be disappointed  – because Newcastle don’t make knee jerk reactions and in fact in times of difficulty they very rarely take any action at all.

Lee+Charnley+Newcastle+United+v+Leicester+gB7g6AU8P1_l

Lee Charnley – what will he do?
Absolutely nothing


However, when a business  is in pending difficulty, doing nothing does nothing and has no positive effect – and the difficulty continues and usually gets worse.

You can’t just hide out and hope things get better.

Just look at what happened last season with John Carver – the powers that be at the club stood by Carver as he got one point in the 10 games before the last game of the season when we managed to get a win.

But we were almost relegated in that final game and when he took over at the end of last year we were in 9th place on 26 points and got just 13 points in the final 19 games.

Absolutely hopeless.

So that’s what happens when you don’t make a knee-jerk reaction or in fact do absolutely nothing when you lose eight games on the trot – the first time that has ever happened at Newcastle in the Premier League.

That’s one of the five wins we have had in 33 league games this year – surely one of the worst calendar years in Newcastle ‘s history – an it’s unlikely to get better in our final five games either.

We hear from the local press that those who run the club will keep faith in McClaren and that may be true – but don’t expect Newcastle to be a Premier League club  next season with these kinds of pathetic and embarrassing performances.

Some real changes need to be made soon with Liverpool and Tottenham our next two games and then Aston Villa at home – who seem to be playing a lot better than we are at the moment.

We’re sure there will be players brought in during the January transfer window but on these terrible displays a bigger question has to hang over the head of Steve McClaren – especially when he was fired by Derby County in May.

And we’ll not even mention Lee Charnley who has made two disastrous  choices of head coach since Alan Pardew left – when some good managers were available.

Crystal Place completely outplayed us today –  like you would never have believed – before this game started.

And Pardew completely out-coached Steve McClaren today and he seems to be struggling to get to grips with the job at Newcastle.

So we’ll probably hear there will definitely be no knee-jerk reaction after we have gone second bottom as Sunderland got their second successive win – a 2-0 win at home to Stoke – and Bournemouth drew 3-3 at home to Everton.

So Newcastle will keep calm after these two terrible defeats and we will then probably  become closer to favorites for relegation.

The likelihood is that we are going to be near the bottom of the league by January since we have six games to play by January 2nd – when we are at Arsenal – and we also play Liverpool and Tottenham in our next two games.

🙁 🙁 🙁

Crystal Place in comparison was one of our easier games.

How many points will we get in those six games coming up do you think?

And we spent £53M in the summer on new players?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Financial Fair Play · Financials · Newcastle News · Other News · Premier League




92 responses so far ↓

  • 1 GeordieTwo // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    Silence from the powers that be. Charnley and Ashley will have nothing to say as usual. What can they say? They are both completely incompetent. They created this mess and they have no answers for how to get us out of it.

  • 2 John Tudor // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:45 PM

    ashley will spend only on sell on players
    only thing is
    no cnut wants them
    ashley go fak yersel

  • 3 cyprus // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:45 PM

    Read it. Sorry, thauvin worse than cabella. Didn’t express that right

  • 4 cyprus // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:48 PM

    G2
    I’d say that in MA case. I invested I brought in a supposedly experienced coach. A motivator and a young supposed superstar coach. My experienced scout as are all the above, is sxxxxe. Mea culpa

  • 5 Transfer Sage // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:48 PM

    Manx

    Agree. I think it’s right to give the manager stick. If you want to manage a football club,which people care passionately about, and you then chose to do that even though you know the guy above you is selling you and the fans short then you are as much a part of the problem as the owner.

    McClaren is hardly struggling for money, he didn’t need this job, so I have no sympathy now he has taken it.

    I know this is Ashley’s fault, he has brought the club to this, he appoints the board, he sets policy, he is the one who can make changes….but he doesn’t.

  • 6 manxpie // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:48 PM

    manxpie // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    sage carr is doing his job i have no doubt about that
    we keep hearing that the philosophy of the recruitment won’t change even tho it is the biggest problem

    so that has to come from above him but again it will be the managers fault
    and we will just repeat probably with an out of work has been manager holloway or o’leary or of that ilk

  • 7 Transfer Sage // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:49 PM

    Cyprus

    I don’t have a lot of hope for Thauvin. However if he was slotting into a competent team it would certainly be a lot easier for him than coming into a side devoid of any ability or organisation.

  • 8 reilly // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:49 PM

    nothing will change at the club till ashley goes.
    if mcclaren is replaced we will just get another average out of work manager,.

  • 9 hibbitt // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:50 PM

    ron……. i was talking to mark proctor last night and he was telling me its load of bull that carr and mc are big mates he also said mc will walk if he gets to much stick here’s hoping …but god know’s who would take the job

  • 10 GeordieTwo // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:51 PM

    The Palace players had acres of space to run into today. Their pace was completely beyond us. We even made that plank Wickam look half decent.

  • 11 SPRINGY // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    repost;
    quality=none
    strength=none
    fitness=none
    organisation=none
    this is gettin ridiculous now….as for waiting for jan transfer window….ask ya selves this would u leave another team to join this shower of shit??…..so the idea of gettin quality in at jan is a pipe dream in my eyes…i’d be amazed if any player of decent quality even talked to us let alone signed.
    macca may not be completely at fault but he is the man who coaches and picks the side and he is being to soft….he has to change,quit or be sacked…and the players need there arses kickin

  • 12 lochinvar // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    Vardy !

  • 13 Readingmag // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:56 PM

    no more pain please. KK time.

  • 14 manxpie // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:56 PM

    plus i dont understand that he’s “happy” paying players millions but not the people in charge of them
    surely he doesn’t do that in his first love

    how unlucky are we to get the stingiest bone idlest pig ignorentest sC UNThorpest billionaire in the entire fuskin world!!

  • 15 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:56 PM

    Pearson signed Mahrez and Vardy for 1.4 million Carr signs Thauvin and Cabella for over 20 million

    Couldn’t make it up !!

  • 16 GeordieTwo // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:56 PM

    Really, this has been coming from the start of the season. I said McLaren would be under huge pressure straight off because the players aren’t good enough. Dummett wouldn’t make many Championship clubs. Colo is a shadow of the player we signed. Who do we have on the bench? Saylor? Don’t make me laugh. Anita isn’t strong enough for the Prem. Mitrovic will sulk now. Bringing on Gouffran is pointless. We have nothing on the bench except Mitrovic.

  • 17 jane // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:57 PM

    brilliant Vardy and what a pass.

  • 18 lochinvar // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:57 PM

    Knee jerk reaction ?
    No.
    What we need is a ten second considered decision – then sack the lot

  • 19 toonking // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:57 PM

    The evidence of mac was clear before he even got appointed. newcastle is a with extremely high expectations and a team fans rate over the top, it creates pressure and as a manager you need to have the capabilities to cope with it; something which mac can’t cope with at all as was shown during his time at england.

    pardew was a crap manager and I had no interest in him being a decent manager but what I did like about him during his period at newcastle was that fans would not get in his way, he was always able to cope with the increasing pressure fans had on him which is why he had us top 10 during 2 of his 3 full spells and left us sitting in 9th place.

    on a seperate not goVARDY
    1-0 leister

  • 20 manxpie // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:58 PM

    well done vardey a proper striker who works his bollocks of every game and the offside trap brilliantly

  • 21 toonking // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:00 PM

    colo, sisssoko and cisse if you ever read this page i demand you stand acting like this vardy player and the leister team itself.

    There’s only 1 james vardy.
    howay leister

  • 22 Average_Contents // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:00 PM

    Ashley out!

    Now!

    Horrible cnut.

  • 23 toonking // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:00 PM

    start*

  • 24 Readingmag // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:00 PM

    Ironic…I thought Cisse was our best player…never gave the ball away…

  • 25 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:03 PM

    Wow. Just wow. It’s a good job Pardew is crap otherwise they might have scored 8. How did we end up losing one manager who wasn’t the answer, and end up with one who, quite frankly, is doing even worse!?!?

    Anyone feel like blaming the owner?

  • 26 manxpie // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:03 PM

    so that means mahrez was 400,000 bloody hell wat a bargain and he actually runs of the ball

  • 27 lochinvar // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:03 PM

    Could Ashley not just buy Leicester City outright and relocate them To SJP ?
    Wasps rugby moved to Coventry and that’s worked ok

  • 28 toonking // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:04 PM

    it is sad to think of myself like this but leister city feel like a team I’m more keen to watch and support at this minute in time because i’d just love to see a team such as this one get top 4 or win the title playing as it’s playing at this minute in time.

  • 29 Ron Knee // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:04 PM

    hibbitt

    That’s the problem: out of the frying pan into the fire.

  • 30 manxpie // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:05 PM

    ycmiu that would be a first wouldn’t it but supposedly getting rid of the manager had to happen for things to change
    so surely now the same thing has to happen

  • 31 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM

    Toonking

    Liecester remund me of the toon under Keegan when we were first promoted under him. An exciting, good footballing team.

  • 32 Thump // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM

    @YouCouldn’tMakeItUp: I think you’ll find the blame has always been placed at Ashley’s door. He just isn’t a figurehead to direct our anger towards.

  • 33 toonking // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:07 PM

    best thing about vardy is it’s save us from dominating back page headlines.

  • 34 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:08 PM

    Manx

    I agree Pardew had to go. He was not right for us in any way…but obviously he aint totally crap, as Palace have continued to improve under him. Mclaren is doing awfully, but again, i wouldnt completely blame him. Its got to be the owner. Mash has to go.

  • 35 stokiebill // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:09 PM

    The only way forward now for us drop all first team,play under 21s for next game and cut wages of so called senior players.What a f—–g shambles sick of hearing we have to get back on training ground and work hard load of carp.

  • 36 c-dog // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:09 PM

    £53 million on four gash players

  • 37 Transfer Sage // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:09 PM

    Manx

    Leicester have some cracking players. Made some brilliant buys in the summer.

    For me, unless you can afford the very best you won’t be able to get a team to play like Barca.

    What we should be doing, if wanting to buy cheap, is getting a much bigger/better scouting network to start then buying players with genuine pace.

    Pace worries teams and creates problems. Even if the quality isn’t amazing you get good value.

  • 38 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:10 PM

    Thump

    But surely he can’t keep hiding from it? After his fighting talk at the end of last season, he still seems to manage to avoid a great deal of flack which many fans still seem to aim at the manager.

  • 39 Hail Wor Ashley // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:11 PM

    Carr Out
    Colo Out
    Charnley Out
    McClaren Out

    Then clear the decks of all but those that want to be here. Problem is we don’t have a core contingent of British senior players to go in the dressing room and say “anybody that doesn’t want to be here, get up and leave”, like we did with Nolan, Barton, Harper and Smith. That would leave us with 5/6 players at a stretch….

    Allow somebody else to buy who he wants. It’s the only way out other than certain relegation, and who knows what the fallout will be when relegated.

  • 40 Pottsclock // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:15 PM

    Leiceste’s right back…..if only we could pick up bargains like that

  • 41 Blackley and Brownlie // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:16 PM

    Toon kk // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:04 PM

    People who think our poor play is down to the manager know no more than Mash..
    Our players aren’t premier league quality thats the problem.

    HA. Toon Kk. The same people who chose the players chose the manager. Sunderland were absolutely relegation fodder until Allardyce arrived. Compare their performance at Palace to ours.

    Makro thinks he can swear and shout at a crap player and make him good. No Makro. Colo is crap. The fans know that. You don’t see it. That tells me you’ve got to go. You haven’t a clue.

  • 42 TheToonKing // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:18 PM

    I don’t even have to energy to rant anymore. Fu3k these lazy bastards. None of them deserve the shirt.

  • 43 jane // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:21 PM

    McClaren isn’t good enough, people say no manager could do anything with our players but that isn’t true. time for Ashley to go for a good manager, that must be the next step.

  • 44 chicousa // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM

    SMc said the best summer signing was Colo!!! Really that says it all!!!

  • 45 toonking // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM

    YCMU

    That’s just it this leister have got the type of team a newcastle fan would love more than anything.

    A toon team can consist of players as cheap as chips or as dear as ronaldo, as skillful as shola or as skillful as messi I don’t really care because it’s those with great spirit, commitment, work rate and an excellent attitude that mean the most.

  • 46 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:23 PM

    Whole F**n club a shambles from first team to juniors
    All rarely win
    Carr, Charnley, McLaren all should go tonight and take the players
    SHITE SHITE SHITE
    If the Liverpool don’t get double figures then the spuds will the following week against that load of gutless

    Can anyone tell me why McTavish took Perez off and brought on Lascalles – was he going for a 3- defeat

    ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

  • 47 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:24 PM

    The current manager should get no more or less than the the previous. The players are and were lazy, and the owner was and still is a horrible b’stard.

  • 48 toonluvva // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:24 PM

    Don’t panic chaps!

    Mr Charnley has decided to take swift action and is about to conduct a sweeping review of our stationery requirements.

    Top of his list is a trip to Staples to scout out new paper clips.

    Rest assured, new paper stocks will brought in during January.

  • 49 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:25 PM

    Toonking

    Would rather have had shola on the pitch than some of these jokers this season 😀

  • 50 manxpie // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:26 PM

    yeah sage totally agree but 1st and foremost it should be the managers choice without doubt

    look at our defence right now not really been adressed since ashley came in and i believe its because they generally arent the big sellers
    for defenders why don’t we buy from lower english leagues
    they know wat its about and its one of the most important positions but i dont want to come across xeniphobic !! lol but surely its better than buying unknown foreiners

  • 51 GEORDIE69 // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:27 PM

    To those of you that struggle with spelling, they are called Leicester! Copy and paste Leicester if it helps.

  • 52 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:30 PM

    HAHAHAHAAHAH Loveee itt 5:1 Pardew the KING.

    What an absolute disgrace!!!! Club is finished. Its over lads.
    I am following West Ham cause of Bilic and Leicester cause of a genius manager. Both play exciting football, at least they play. Come Jan nobody STUPID enough would come here.

    Can’t wait for Ashley to lose all his MONEY…HAHAHAHHAAHHAHAAHHAHAAHHAAHAHAH what ab absolute twat. King key was spot on about everything.

  • 53 Bri // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:30 PM

    Mclaren has just stated “we are gonna have setbacks”.
    For god sake wally wake up man because many more setbacks and we are doomed.

  • 54 magpie mo // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:30 PM

    Hi all, first time for me, I am a magpie in pain. A big clear out in January is needed, we need to get our team back. I don’t think it’s SMc fault we just do not have good players for the shirt. At least nine players we need. I will not say we have a team but a bunch of losers who don’t care less for the shirt…

  • 55 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:31 PM

    “Mr Charnley has decided to take swift action and is about to conduct a sweeping review of our stationery requirements.” I am in tears of laughter 😀

  • 56 casslad // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:31 PM

    Ha ha all the Pardew out ppl as John Anderson said careful what u wish for I am a life long toon fan and we were an average team that once punched above our weight under Pardew and he was building something there was youth coming through something was getting built over achieving once got him the sack and the regime running him but look at him now 53 points since he went to palace, id have him back tommora

  • 57 toonking // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:33 PM

    YCMU

    He might be crap skills but i’d love shola back more than a majority of our current batch, what liked best about shola was we always had a player sitting on the bench giving it his all and nowhere does his great spirit get proven more than his determination and great goal scoring record against the scums.

  • 58 Blackley and Brownlie // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:33 PM

    Just been listening to Radio Newcastle. Some woman (sounded like my aunty Eunice) spoke sense. She said Ashley has tried but has no idea about football. He’s been let down by his football people.

    The next caller alao spoke sense (sounded like me)) by repeatedly asking who Charnley is and what he knows about football.

    The truth is:
    – Charnley knows fook all
    – Carr, the football man, is useless
    – Between them they’ve appointed a poor manager when, because of their poor player recruitment, they need, in the absence of a horse, an exceptionally good manager to get the cart out of the clarts

  • 59 manxpie // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:34 PM

    ycmiu but the way things go at this club is there will be another manager out site before the ashley one gets a mention again its ridiculous
    i said the other night where has that gone why are the people who run them sites that got so much credit for the pardew one but have dissapeared with the ashley one!? and people payed out money to them funny as fusk lol

  • 60 Blackley and Brownlie // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:34 PM

    Why are some of my posts not posting?

  • 61 welshgeordie9 // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:35 PM

    So much for the training ground bust up, what’s going to happen next week in training, sack them all, they all shite.

  • 62 Blackley and Brownlie // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:36 PM

    Just been listening to Radio Newcastle. Some woman (sounded like my aunty Eunice) spoke sense. She said Ashley has tried but has no idea about football. He’s been let down by his football people.

    The next caller alao spoke sense (sounded like me)) by repeatedly asking who Charnley is and what he knows about football.

    The truth is:
    – Charnley knows nowt about football
    – Carr, the football man, is useless
    – Between them they’ve appointed a poor manager
    – Because of their poor player recruitment, they need, in the absence of a horse, an exceptionally good manager to get the cart out of the clarts.

  • 63 Readingmag // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:37 PM

    its my city, my people, my love……I love Fenwicks, Bimbys, The bridges, the metro, Whitley, the castle, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  • 64 jane // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:37 PM

    I’d play Obertan and Williamson like a few have said attitude counts more than ability often.

  • 65 welshgeordie9 // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:37 PM

    Mcclaren wanted a performance from the players, well he had one, worse than last weeks match.

  • 66 BandB // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:38 PM

    What a pity they all hired themselves Blackley, eh?
    And won’t sack themselves.

  • 67 toonking // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:39 PM

    geordie69

    miss spelling of Leicester might be a common thing but I think it easy enough to see what people will be mean by the mispelt word. the confusion when with “lose” being spelt “loose” would be worse.

    when do you want homework back ?

  • 68 Blackley and Brownlie // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:40 PM

    I watched the 18s get fairly beaten by Boro this morning. Windy and freezing.

  • 69 manxpie // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:42 PM

    go on who payed up for the pardew out campaign?
    even knowing that he wasn’t the reason lol
    just saying so you dont pay for mcclarens

  • 70 welshgeordie9 // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:45 PM

    Pardew in
    Dipstick Mcclaren out

  • 71 Jib // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:46 PM

    Never Forget

  • 72 toonking // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:47 PM

    BandB 61

    Those two calls pointing the blame towards charnley did make sense but it still needs to point some back at ashley too because it’s him who appointed charnley and sticks by his side.

    mac himself could get the sack next week but if charnley still remains, it’ll make little difference as charnley will be the one to choose a new manager again and if he proves to be crap then what, we still insist ashley doesn’t cause the problems

  • 73 Blackley and Brownlie // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:48 PM

    BandB
    It all keeps coming back to Ashley. Even he says “my door”. That’s why he’s got to step in. He needs to have a complete clear out. Then he needs to appoint the right football man to the top position. How does a football clueless owner do that?

  • 74 manxpie // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:50 PM

    loose is my pet hate too even tho i spell loads wrong same as when people used to call arfa afra
    i just shorten words like wat or tho as the extra letters aren’t needed but read the same

  • 75 BandB // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:50 PM

    Charnley isn’t here to make sure a football team gets built.
    He’s here to make sure a hotel and associated development gets built.

  • 76 Blackley and Brownlie // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:53 PM

    Jib
    It’s dark all night but the dawn comes eventually. The trouble is it’s dark all the time, even during the day, when you’re in a tunnel and there’s no light at the end of it. If we ever came out of the tunnel, we find it is midnight. We’d be back in another tunnel before dawn.

  • 77 benjohnsen // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:53 PM

    I really really miss the spirit of Nolan, Barton and even Leon Best would do be better at top then we have now.

  • 78 toonking // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:55 PM

    manx

    i can’t think of many words confused and mis spelt more than loose and lose and as a frequent player of poker myself it’s a extremely difficult thing not to do wrong because both words are common:
    loose- a person can play in a loose manner
    lose- i lose a game.

    they should have a z
    looze
    booze
    chooze

  • 79 welshgeordie9 // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:56 PM

    At the end of the day, night time comes.

  • 80 Blackley and Brownlie // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:56 PM

    BandB
    If Charnley’s here for the hotel, he’s even crap at that. Still no concrete sign of one.

  • 81 Blackley and Brownlie // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:57 PM

    Toonking
    Choose and chose

  • 82 BandB // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:57 PM

    It’ll be up long before we ever win anything Blackley.

  • 83 JamesToon // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:57 PM

    Mcclaren out
    Charnley out
    Carr out

    De boer/Bielsa IN

  • 84 banjax // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:59 PM

    Like many writers on this blog I am stunned at the lack of reaction to this latest humiliating defeat. Even a kind word from the Newcastle Board would have shown at least some kind of empathy with us supporters, but as usual deafening silence. I would have thought at least by now there would have been an announcement sacking McLaren and that the hunt was on for new manager. Personally I would also publish a list to the Media naming and shaming the players who would be likely to be moved on in January 2016 in the misguided hope that it may embarrass them into doing their job on match days. One thing is certain tho and that is that McLaren no longer has influence on the players because his ‘vile’ temper had done nothing to motivate the players last week. So here we are again. It IS only Mike Ashley who can put things right and as a businessman he is watching his investment in Newcastle flushed down the toilet by Lax management and players. Ashley is virtually certain to miss out on the big money coming to the premier league next season as well as sponsorship and a huge dip in sponsorship, so wouldn’t you have thought that as a businessman he would see circa £8m in compensation to Charnley and the management team as peanuts compared to what he can earn. Ah well us supporters can only act as passive witnesses to the damage being done to our great club !

  • 85 firebug666 // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:59 PM

    Nobody at the club is going to admit the gross incompetence that rife thought the whole set up, If Macca does go it will be because he has walked, the idiots in their palaces can see nothing wrong, if the could it would have been sorted by now.

    Get set because this is not going to get any better any time soon, The board are clueless, the backroom staff are obviously inept at their given positions, and the squad gave up last year.

    Will Ashley be bothered about relegation? I don’t think so, he has the club pretty much stitched up feeding his parasite company SD, and they will always get the lions share out of the club.

    I don’t see anyway out of this mire, we never took a step backwards, we got stuck in reverse, and when we go down half the players will be off due to relegation release clauses, and we will spend some years struggling to compete in the championship.

  • 86 Transfer Sage // Nov 28, 2015 at 6:59 PM

    manx

    I agree. I can’t see why the manager wouldn’t have significant say in who is brought it. He works with the players so know who should go, where we are weak and what he needs to get them playing his way.

    If you won’t want the team to play the managers way they shouldn’t be hired in the first place.

    Obviously you need the manager to get players within budget.

  • 87 welshgeordie9 // Nov 28, 2015 at 7:01 PM

    So apparently the players are going to do extra training tomorrow, never mind extra training, someone should shove fireworks up their arses to get them going, waste of space the lot of them.

  • 88 manxpie // Nov 28, 2015 at 7:07 PM

    yeah it just annoys me as i’m reading it leicester is harder to spell than lose at the end of the day lol
    watching the leicester man u game it shows how easy we are to play against this match shows each team have plenty of time and space on the ball each team have where as we have fusk all every time and crumble thats all every team has to do against us to make us crumble!

  • 89 toonking // Nov 28, 2015 at 7:11 PM

    blackley

    those who spell lose correct will be at high risk of that, luckily for me i get lose and loose in correct and as choose sounds more like lose i can get choose correct.

    in a way chooze might be more worth while spealt like fuse
    choose
    fuse
    loose
    moose
    goose

    booze
    looze

  • 90 Mag52 // Nov 28, 2015 at 7:12 PM

    Extra training will do no good.
    Apparently Macca gave them a good b@llocking during the week, with little noticeable effect.
    Maybe the answer against Liverpool, a match we are going to lose anyway, might be to play the under 21 team with only Elliot from the first team on the pitch. Possibly the shame of this might have some effect on out team of overpaid non performers if nothing else will.

  • 91 welshgeordie9 // Nov 28, 2015 at 7:14 PM

    Can’t wait to see what true geordie has got to say about today’s performance, he should do the team talk next week.

  • 92 manxpie // Nov 28, 2015 at 7:17 PM

    exactly sage but then you get the people supporting the foreign way and that the managers should be able to work with wat they have got and thats fair enough if they got a full squad to work with
    we never do we had a period of buying LB’s and CM’s when we needed CB’s and wingers it shows how fusked up the policy is but we hear there is nothing wrong

    now if every part of the squad was addressed properly year on year and then a head coach had to work with them then fair enough but it is so far from that it’s laughable but that is supposedly our policy!!!
    unbelievable really




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