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Match Report – Newcastle Pathetic Again – Lose 5-1 At Palace

4:58 pm, Saturday, November 28th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 91 Comments

Newcastle once again put in another woeful and pathetic performance this time at Alan Pardew’s Crystal Palace and after going ahead with a good goal from Papiss Cisse through a nice glancing header from a good Daryl Janmaat cross after 10 minutes Palace scored five unanswered goals and simply dominated the game.

It wasn’t unlike last week when Newcastle were second best in every department to Leicester City and while the players have to take the responsibility for another gutless and almost hopeless display – it does put Steve McClaren under enormous pressure and whether this job is just too much for him.

Last week was two steps back and this week was another two steps back – maybe three – so we are an awful lot of steps backward so far this season.

Sunderland won 2-0 against Stoke – Bournemouth drew 3-3 with Everton so they both go above Newcastle in the league and we are second bottom – Aston Villa lost 3-2 at home to Watford.

steve mccalren this afternoon CP

Steve McClaren – this afternoon – another debacle

And the poor Newcastle fans at the game after the fourth goal went in after 47 minutes  started to sing “”We’re **** and we’re sick of it”

Hint – the **** rhymes with it.

There ‘s going to be even more heated criticism of the Newcastle players after this woeful defensive display and we just don’t seem to have a decent enough good defenders to stop the goals flowing in.

Paul Dummett had another difficult game against Saha and he looked poor.

That’s 30 goals we have conceded in 14 league games this season, the worst in the Premier League  and it was a pitiful rearguard action today from the Magpies  and we have Liverpool and Tottenham up next.

This is how we saw the game – and we have some more comments at the end.

After 10 minutes Newcastle went ahead after withstanding some heavy early pressure and it was a good run by Daryl Janmaat as he moved up the right wing then moved inside and put over a lovely cross that Papiss Cisse headed home for his second goal of the season and just the start Newcastle needed.

But Newcastle’s defense was again suspect and just four minutes later Crystal Palace were level as a shot by James McArthur that was deflected off Paul Dummett into the back of the net – it was an unlucky goal for the Magpies to concede – but it was 1-1.

Palace went ahead just 3 minutes later when it was Bolasie who scored all too easily in what was comical defending by Newcastle as a number of our players should have cleared the ball as it came across the box.

Crystal Palace were coming at Newcastle now and it seemed that Pardew wanted Zaha to keep taking on Dummett down the right wing and that was the concentration of the attack.

After 41 minutes palace went further ahead and it was former Sunderland striker Connor Wickham who broke down the left wing and skipped past Chancel Mbemba before pulling the ball back to Zaha who scored as the ball looped into the back of the net.

Half time came and Newcastle had put in another dreadful defensive performance and we looked all over the place and a good question is what were Steve McClaren and the staff doing in the five days of coaching last week.

Newcastle’s defense is simply not good enough for the Premier league and we will soon become relegation favorites with these performances.

McClaren made a strange change indeed at half time bringing on Jamaal Lascelles for Perez?

Two minutes into the second half and Palace went even further ahead as a Cabaye free-kick was flighted nicely into the box and Damien Delaney headed the ball to Bolasie who put the ball home so easily for his second goal and it was 4-1.

Where was the Newcastle defense?

Newcastle fans then started to sing “We’re **** and we’re sick of it” and you couldn’t blame them – it was so difficult to watch an absolutely pathetic Newcastle side.

Crystal Palace continued to attack Newcastle and it was simply no contest as Alan Pardew’s side were making mincemeat of Newcastle – after last week’s performance this was very hard to take.

After 65 minutes Ward broke through and not one player picked him up and his shot screamed only inches over the cross-bar.

After 70 minutes McClaren made two changes as Yoan Gouffran replaced Georginio Wijnaldum and Siem de Jong replaced Jack Colback.

A Yohan Cabaye cross saw Connor Wickham head the ball wide.

And then in stoppage time it was James McArther  who got his second goal as they simply ripped apart the Newcastle defense once again.

Palace had done that a few times in the second half after the fourth goal went in  – but they missed some chances,

So even at 5-1 the scoreline could have been a lot worse but they simply controlled the game for much of the second half  – and we quite happy with all 3 points.

That was Crystal Palace’s biggest win of the season as they tore this poor Newcastle United side apart and we have to become favorites for relegation

This is Newcastle’s eighth defeat in the first 14 games for Newcastle and we have only have 10 points – the worst start in our history and equal to the start back in 1898 – but we won the 15th game that season 3-0.

We play Liverpool at home next week on our 15th game.

The Chronicle keeps reporting that Steve McClaren is here for the long term but if he keeps losing Mike Ashley is not going to keep him in charge and see Newcastle relegated again – especially when some good managers are currently available.

It’s difficult to know where Newcastle go from here.

A pathetic performance served up last Saturday at home followed by another gutless performance – but the defense has looked so bad – it’s difficult to know how we can build anything when we can let a goal at any time.

That’s now 30 goals conceded in 14 league games and we have known for three seasons our defense has been poor.

We need at least a good center-back and a good left back brought in during the January transfer window but with Liverpool and Tottenham next up we could even be rock bottom by the turn of the year.

That’s if our last two performances are anything to go by.

And there have to be big questions marks over Steve McClaren’s head after a second successive disastrous display when our defense was all over the shop.

We never thought McClaren was a good appointment but were willing to give him a chance and hope he could bring success to the club.

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Crystal Palace (4-2-3-1): Wayne Hennessey; Joel Ward, Scott Dann, Damien Delaney (c), Pape Souare; Yohan Cabaye, James McArthur; Wilfried Zaha, Jason Puncheon, Yannick Bolasie; Connor Wickham
Substitutes: Julian Speroni, Martin Kelly, Mile Jedinak, Joe Ledley, Chung-yong Lee, Patrick Bamford, Marouane Chamakh

Newcastle (4-4-2): Rob Elliot; Daryl Janmaat, Chancel Mbemba, Fabricio Coloccini (c), Paul Dummett; Moussa Sissoko, Vurnon Anita, Jack Colback, Georginio Wijnaldum ; Ayoze Perez (46 Jamaal Lasclles), Papiss Cisse
Substitutes not used: Karl Darlow, Jamie Sterry, Florian Thauvin, Aleksandar Mitrovic



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91 responses so far ↓

  • 1 AncientC // Nov 28, 2015 at 4:59 PM

    The way the team are playing, Ed can have his articles written with 20 minutes still left to play.

  • 2 John Tudor // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:00 PM

    we were being built for it
    parachute payments
    a few purples to cash in on
    and milk the club on the way down ffin parasite FO Ashley
    get the bast@rd out

  • 3 Ron Knee // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:00 PM

    Repost

    firebug

    I’d be surprised if he wanted to stay. That would rebound on Charmless too. I think they’ve finally run out of excuses.

  • 4 Thump // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:00 PM

    “We’re sh!t and we’re sick of it (but we’ll still keep going to matches and buying Wonga sponsored shirts because we can’t help but doing anything else)”

  • 5 Graeme // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:01 PM

    Complete and utter shambles.

    NUFC have a win record that is only matched by its Manager – both great at loosing in a league that demands wins. Shambolic to say the least.

  • 6 toonking // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:01 PM

    antientc

    he should spend time starting a worst player of match

  • 7 toonbrother // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:02 PM

    i voted colo

  • 8 Graeme // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:04 PM

    Toonking – thats easy, just tick “ALL of the Above”!!!

  • 9 archaeomag // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:04 PM

    Can’t bring myself to vote for man of the match.

    So what we need is 6 or 7 serious good experienced players, a brilliant new manager – and we might escape the drop.

  • 10 toon kk // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:04 PM

    People who think our poor play is down to the manager know no more than Mash..
    Our players aren’t premier league quality thats the problem.

  • 11 AncientC // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:04 PM

    toonking – I think the best player votes have turned into a worst player vote for most people anyway. Watch how many votes Colo & Dummett get.

  • 12 anthc // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:04 PM

    Bottom by Xmas as we’re gonna get thumped the next two games as well. Finally lost for words and so angry. The club should reimburse the fans their money at the very least.

  • 13 toonluvva // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:05 PM

    We’re in the bottom 3 and I just see us getting out this time.

    Championship looms. Nice one Mr Ashley!

  • 14 JamesToon // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:05 PM

    we are in serious danger of going down and never coming back up. The thing is i don’t think the people at the club really care about that

  • 15 Average_Contents // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:06 PM

    90+ minutes of my life I’ll never get fcuking back.

    Shoddy, clueless and downright disgraceful.

    I wonder how long it’ll be before someone mentions “see, I’ve said it for AGES,the king is brill” “should never of hounded him out” “blah blah” “blah” “more blah”

    We know it wasn’t his fault but he protected the man’s who’s fault it is and seemed to derive pleasure from it the smarmy cnut.

    Anyway. I wonder what shteve is gonna say now? That’s 8 goals conceded in our last two. Funnily enough that’s the King’s territory. How fcuking ironic.

  • 16 will die for the toon army // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:06 PM

    Nufcursed

    Easier said than done but i cant think abt not watching NUFC play. It hurts me that Ashely and players r letting us down but not watching a football is hard for me.

  • 17 hibbitt // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:06 PM

    i think we were lucky it was only 5 ………..another pile of shit will he walk i think so

  • 18 ilovetoon8788 // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:07 PM

    I voted for dummett.

  • 19 catchy in norway // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:08 PM

    i think mac has lost the team,,, watched sissoko today didnt want the ball or to run when he had it..

    players are to blame because it was coming along nicely

  • 20 Graeme // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:08 PM

    Safely into 2nd Bottom, with the scum moving up to replace us in relative safety lol

  • 21 toonking // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:08 PM

    go leister go vardy.

    back page headline

    “vardy breaks RVN’s a goal in 10 consecutive game record and leister are 5 points ahead of united”

    manchester united win an headlines

    “pardew wins in his new palace with his new pies”
    “mac under the table away from mag pies”

  • 22 terencelim // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:09 PM

    Just another day Ashley let his ass lickers down again.

  • 23 lochinvar // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:09 PM

    Nine points off 12th – think about it
    It’s serious now
    In fact it was serious when Charmless appointed.MClaren
    They haven’t got a clue

    Has Mclaren resigned ?
    Has Charmless been sacked ?

  • 24 Ron Knee // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:09 PM

    hibbitt

    It’s likely he’ll go. They made a big song and dance about Monday’s training session, but it clearly hasn’t worked.

  • 25 manxpie // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:10 PM

    nufccursed please explain the better players part or the fact it was all pardews fault when he was here and he needed to go to sort out the problems

    wat problems have been solved?
    the problems have always been higher up especially the relationship with recruitment and the manager which has been proved season after season and again now
    we needed defenders every stat showed we needed better defenders!
    we waste 13 mill on an out of form winger!
    nothing to do with the manager by the way

    you nufccursed are exactly ashleys dream!

  • 26 neverwin // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:10 PM

    Ed would you please stop running the best player – it is just senseless and adding insult to injury and anyway who the hell cares.

    I am tired of seeing our defenders turning their backs – if it is not Colo it is Dummy – if he had stood and faced the ball it would have hit him direct and would not have been deflected. They are a pair of TARTS – at least Steven Taylor attacks the ball full on.

    It is now time to say enough is enough as far as I am concerned – I have said it many times before but this time I mean it.

  • 27 sparky55 // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:11 PM

    Maclaren is not the man for the job even if he was given 200 million to buy whoever he wanted.

    The problem however is not solely down to Maclaren as he’s just another puppet behind the punch and judy curtain…the problem is carr and the fat controller.

    Ashley needs to sack Maclaren and all his mates and bring in high quality footballing people (that means much higher quality than Dennis Wise) and start again.

    If he does it now we might even stay up…if he sticks with what he\s doing now there’s only one place we’re going and that’s down to League 1

  • 28 lochinvar // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:12 PM

    Somebody said Frank de Boer
    Why not
    Or Klinsmann
    Or Old Mother Hubbard
    After all it’s the Panto season

  • 29 hibbitt // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:12 PM

    i hear pardues handed over the book of excuses mc should have no problem now pardue only used half of them

  • 30 will die for the toon army // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:12 PM

    We r getting relegated. It hurts i really dont no the solution except if we do a Man City.

    Invest 100m.
    …………..Darlow
    Janmatt…Mbemba…Shawcross…Willems
    ………Shelvey….Colback
    Perez……..Wijanldum…….Towsend
    …………..Mitrovic

  • 31 Keith in France // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:12 PM

    The manager must do the honourable thing and go – but I can not think of a manager who has had the courage to say ” I have lost the respect of the players and therefore I am resigning with immediate effect ”

    The players will remain because they can not be sacked due to their contracts – only in football !

    We might have the best fans and a great stadium but that’s it.

  • 32 toonking // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:14 PM

    6-1 loss to city
    3-0 loss scums
    3-0 loss to leister city
    5-1 palace

  • 33 NezzaNUFC // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:15 PM

    Pardew + Carver = McClaren

    Don’t worry guys McClaren can’t handle the pressure compare to Pardew and Carver.

    In fact I wouldn’t be to surprise if he left next week.

  • 34 hibbitt // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:16 PM

    will die …..give your head a shake

  • 35 John Tudor // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:18 PM

    if he had any sense he would fa@k orf now

  • 36 NezzaNUFC // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:18 PM

    Keith in France

    Best fans? more like gullible fans!

  • 37 John Tudor // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:19 PM

    11 tramps off the street would do a better job

  • 38 NezzaNUFC // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:19 PM

    John T

    But like all our managers they have no sense

  • 39 geordiemark // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:20 PM

    if McClaren goes now which manager in there right mind would take the job, think of this there working under a scout for gods sake and a managing director who has much sence as a dead dog and I didn’t try to humiliate the dog

    no manager in there right mind would touch the job, said last week there relegated

  • 40 Ron Knee // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:20 PM

    Keith

    Gullit resigned.

  • 41 AncientC // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:20 PM

    Time for no fly zone over the NE and Ashley chased into a sewer. Draw straws for who gets to wield the stick?

  • 42 JamesToon // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:21 PM

    It’s not a lot to ask for a manager who is better than Pardew.

  • 43 GeordieTwo // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:21 PM

    We’ve gone from terrible to unmitigated disaster under McLaren. He has to go. Now. Surely Ashley won’t tolerate a bottom 3 position? Anything seems possible. The players have clearly given up. We’ve conceded 8 in the last 2 games.

  • 44 John Tudor // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:21 PM

    kinnear in

  • 45 Ron Knee // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:21 PM

    Has Ashley been attending the matches lately?

  • 46 toonking // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:21 PM

    when listening to sky sports post match reaction I hear him mention lots about players
    colo- i want to send e-mails when “I want to” at the club

    perez- I agree with charley perez hasn’t really do anything wrong, he doesn’t deserve to be in this team.

    mitrco- no room from him who shows atleast some spirit but had his hud up as though saying “i don’t want to come on and be part of this team”

  • 47 radja in Indonesia // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:22 PM

    Don carlo

  • 48 John Tudor // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:22 PM

    aghh fek it give it to charver

  • 49 Pottsclock // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:23 PM

    Today you simply had to compare basics. When we had a throw-in, we found it difficult to keep the ball because Palace were tight on our players and we had no movement. When Palace had a throw-in, the exact opposite was true.
    It’s no longer about formation, style or whether you like the manager…the players have no commitment. And I actually think it is midfield that is the biggest problem. Sissoko is an absolute joke. Anita not even Championship.

  • 50 TroubledToon // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:23 PM

    No Ed.. It its pretty easy to see where Newcastle go from here… To the Championship

  • 51 GeordieTwo // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:24 PM

    Surely even Ashley sees this is a disaster. To save the season he has to step in now. If not he’s conceding relegation. Sunderland and Bournemouth are definitely picking up the pace while we get worse.

  • 52 toonking // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:24 PM

    mac 5/6 to be sacked

  • 53 John Tudor // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:24 PM

    if asholes stays drop out of league altogether

  • 54 NezzaNUFC // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:25 PM

    If Mike took charge you will see Carr and Lee first to go followed by McClaren and the rest bar Cathro.

    Believe me Big Mike is watching them closely and it’s only a matter of time.

    ( Unless of cause Big Mike wants us relegated to start anew? )

  • 55 banjax // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:25 PM

    Kevin Keegan said it yesterday. Newcastle’s players are not good enough. They are not good enough because of the recruitment system at the club and by not allowing the manager to pick his players or at least have the final say in who he wants. Graham Carr may be a good scout but he is not a Manager and his role should be restricted to recommendation only. Finally Lee Charnley has shown he is not knowledgable enough to oversee the club and recruit the right people for key positions in the club. I for one am going to do what Kevin said in his article – I am not going to go to anymore games and give credit to the shambles of lazy gutless players and I would encourage everyone to do the same because as long as we continue to attend the games – the Newcastle owners and board will do nothing about these embarrassing performances every game. Obviously we would all love it (sorry Kev) if Ashley left but the next best thing is to have a mass clear out of Chairman, Manager and players asap because let’s face it we are going down unless drastic action is taken and fast. Only wish Ashley would re- hire Kevin and let him have Carte Blanche or let him do it his way in other words. Is it still OK to dream ?

  • 56 John Tudor // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:25 PM

    empty stadium next home game is a necessity

  • 57 SPRINGY // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:26 PM

    instead of man of the match why not worst of the match?….coz nee ones playing well enough or being a man to be man of the match……..today….absolutely bloody pathetic…,macca and the players are spineless for different reasons so maybe absolutely bloody pathetically spineless is better

  • 58 GeordieTwo // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:26 PM

    How many scoring chances did they have? They could have scored 8 easily. So much space for them to run into. Dummett and Colo were easily beaten for pace and Janmaat was often out of position trying to push forward. The out of position with no cover problem is training ground work. What do they do during training? We don’t change our approach, even with loss after loss.
    We couldn’t even contain them with 3 CB’s.

  • 59 John Tudor // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:27 PM

    stand outside and chant or turn your back on the dross served up

  • 60 will die for the toon army // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:27 PM

    Hibbitt what solution do u have???? All i do these days is day dream?

  • 61 Ron Knee // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:27 PM

    G2

    I don’t see how they can ‘sell’ this defeat to the supporters. The parasite will have to act.

  • 62 lochinvar // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:28 PM

    Mclaren
    “The killer goal was the fourth ” !
    Deluded.
    ” I think we got the reaction we wanted ”
    Deluded
    “We never recover from huge disappointments ”
    You can say that again
    ” We never recover from huge disappointments”

    Oh well they’ve got Sunday training as their naught step to look forward to

    It’s painful on every level

  • 63 GeordieTwo // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:29 PM

    Great comments @55 banjax mate. But you know the answer to your own final question. Ashley is toxic. His club is finished. His reputation as an owner is clear. Complete disaster.

  • 64 GeordieTwo // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:30 PM

    The club have won 6 of their last 34 matches. That says it all.

  • 65 NezzaNUFC // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:30 PM

    If you’s want to dream, try dreaming about Bill Gates being our chairmen.

    mmmmmmmm!

  • 66 Transfer Sage // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:30 PM

    That was the worst performance of the season and we’ve been woeful this year.

    I’d say time for change but somehow Charnley/Ashley spent 2 months to find a manager worse than Carver….who knows what rubbish they’d get at short notice.

  • 67 GeordieTwo // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:31 PM

    The man is clearly insane Ron Knee mate. I can’t imagine a worse owner for the club. His record is there in black and white (no pun intended) for all to see.

  • 68 cyprus // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:33 PM

    The two players at the bottom on this list were terrible.
    Maybe Mike must do something now though it’s hard to fire the whole atrocious coaching team.

  • 69 chicousa // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:34 PM

    Captain Colo, once again stepped up and provided great leadership and absolutely scintillating defensive play! Down 3-1 at halftime McClaren delivers passionate pep talk and then makes the brilliant decision to bring on a 5th defender! Team then staunch the bleeding by only conceding 2 more. Mike Ashley, Lee Charnley and Carr smile at the juggernaut of a club they have assembled!

  • 70 cyprus // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:35 PM

    The owner to blame for this sxxxe? Nope unless you go with the buck stops with him, which is fair.
    For starters, Carr must be fired in the next hour

  • 71 GeordieTwo // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:36 PM

    We are where we deserve to be. 19th place. A shocking goal difference. No defense. No leadership. Liverpool and Spurs to come. By Christmas we will be finished as a competitive team under McLaren. Step in or lose your money Ashley.

  • 72 SPRINGY // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:36 PM

    quality=none
    strength=none
    fitness=none
    organisation=none
    this is gettin ridiculous now….as for waiting for jan transfer window….ask ya selfs this would u leave another team to join this shower of shit??…..so the idea of gettin quality in at jan is a pipe dream in my eyes…i’d be amazed if any player of decent quality even talked to us let alone signed

  • 73 Transfer Sage // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:37 PM

    I think it’s right to question Carr but also need to look at the remit the man has.

    We recruit players who are cheap with potential to make money. This means they are young, inexperienced, injured/injury prone, have attitude problems or in the rare occasion are nearly out of contract.

    4 of those 5 scenarios means you are taking a huge gamble with the player.

    If, and it is an if, that is Carr’s remit then it’s hardly his fault so many fail.

    And then even if it is his fault surely Ashley/charnley need to intervene and not let under performance from a chief scout go on for so long.

  • 74 bladeuser // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:38 PM

    Biggest mugs in epl history goes to the sheep in black and white u lot really r laughable
    50000+ next home game as the pies r on offer kiss arse ASHLEY lovers enjoy the championship maybe for the first game only 49000 will turn up
    ASH OUT
    SMAC OUT
    COLO OUT

  • 75 manxpie // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:38 PM

    banjax exactly this whole crap that this works in europe doesn’t take into account that the prem is the toughest league in the world without a doubt
    add in the club newcastle with 50,000 demanding fans it is impossible and has been shown year on year
    why can’t the people in charge realise this wat the fusk actually has to happen for these arses to say yeah actually we need to change the transfer policy!!

    you aint gonna sell young players for huge profits if there in the championship

    and wat is wrong with a managers choice of player surely they will try twice as hard with a player they wanted instead of 1 they didn’t or in our way actually needed
    its ridiculous but i bet the fans will turn on the manager again and the people will again carry on with there ridiculous way of running the club!!

  • 76 will die for the toon army // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:38 PM

    We need a better football men not ones that r learning to do the job. Pardew & Carver survived. I dont think Mcca is getting fired

  • 77 Ron Knee // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:39 PM

    G2

    I’m not suggesting for a minute that Ashley will make the right choice but even the insane have their lucid moments.

  • 78 Transfer Sage // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:39 PM

    Cyprus

    See my post at 73.

    I think that’s the problem with Carr, he is told the type of player to buy, a one with a potential sell on value.

    Yes he could do much much better, but players like Thauvin would look at lot better if there were some quality and experienced proven players in the team to guide him.

  • 79 GeordieTwo // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:39 PM

    Charnley is gutless and useless. Carr probably has little choice in the matter. He has been told how to recruit (young, cheap, risky) and that’s what he does. The blame is on Ashley. I hope he loses a fortune when we go down.

  • 80 cyprus // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:41 PM

    Thauvin cheap? To replace a similar player who was worse? For 13 mil. Reckless. Lazy work.

  • 81 Ron Knee // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:41 PM

    TS

    I think we have Carr to thank for the appointment of McClaren.

  • 82 cyprus // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:42 PM

    Read it. Sorry, thauvin worse than cabella. Didn’t express that right

  • 83 GeordieTwo // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:42 PM

    How much have we spent on MF’s in the last 8 years under Ashley? It has to be at least 50M. And yet we still can’t field two decent central midfielders today. That says something about the recruitment. If they are decent (Cabaye) sell them. If they are piss poor, keep them and play them because they have no sell on value.

  • 84 Transfer Sage // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:43 PM

    Manx

    It drives me crazy. Pardew is no top level manager but he has shown with Palace that if he has players he can work with that he is effective and will get results as well as play a bit of decent football.

    Like you say, the way we buy players is terrible. If we added a few experienced players into the mix then it would give these young lads a chance to come into the team and develop, improve and either fire us up the league or be sold for profit.

    The transfer policy was ok for a while as we had a team with experience and fight come up from the championship. Slowly over time though we’ve lost these players and replaced them with unknown quantities…..no way should anyone at the club be shocked this isn’t working.

  • 85 will die for the toon army // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    Derek Llambis is far better

  • 86 manxpie // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    sage carr is doing his job i have no doubt about that
    we keep hearing that the philosophy of the recruitment won’t change even tho it is the biggest problem

    so that has to come from above him but again it will be the managers fault
    and we will just repeat probably with an out of work has been manager holloway or o’leary or of that ilk

  • 87 TroubledToon // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    Cyprus

    I would fall at your feet and worship you if your words come true and Carr is sacked in the next hour…
    I’m glad the fans started the singing… Mebbe Fat Ass would have heard it… And hopefully, next week the stadium is empty..
    Nothing’s gonna change unless something drastic takes place

  • 88 Transfer Sage // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    Cyrpus

    Thauvin isn’t cheap, you are right….I just meant in the context of what a good winger could end up being worth.

  • 89 goommy // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:46 PM

    I start to think that Mcclaren is another failure. He didn’t even know that his plan didn’t work and keep using same old plan and losing again and again. Did he know that Colback and Anita is ‘0 point per match’ combo?

    Why didn’t he use Gini and Sissoko the powerhouse duo who can hold the ball and make killer pass for us and let natural winger like Thauvin do their job on the side? We lose because our CM was sucks!!

    I’m on team #McclarenOut now ty..

  • 90 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 28, 2015 at 5:49 PM

    Whole F**n club a shambles from first team to juniors
    All rarely win
    Carr, Charnley, McLaren all should go tonight and take the players
    SHITE SHITE SHITE
    If the Liverpool don’t get double figures then the spuds will the following week against that load of gutless

    Can anyone tell me why McTavish took Perez off and brought on Lascalles – was he going for a 3- defeat

    ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

  • 91 dalton7675 // Nov 28, 2015 at 8:30 PM

    Guyted but well done pardew you have shown you have something about you rather than just being ashleys puppet, mclaren out he should never of been appointed managerin the first place he is a has been.
    My choice to save the season would be rednapp based on his spurs performance no better options at such short notice qnd for all those saying ashley out, sorry i diagree he spent a few bob last transfer window finally pulled his finger out and i would honestly be suprised if he dosnt spend 20 mil in january we have bought flops yet again de jong needs to get his chance to shine and we need to completely rebuild that defence apart from jaamat, santon shouldnt of been sold and we should maybe consider getting cabella back when he played i could clearly see he had it but should of been given another season.




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